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January 31, 2024, 04:44:17 PM
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I don't like Trump, but Biden is obviously the worst president for crypto. I'm sure you are aware of what Biden's people in Congress are trying to do, trying to ban bitcoin, ban mining, ban the right to self-custody... They made a number of crypto companies migrate out of the US. They shadow banned bitcoin by not allowing companies to get licenses to operate without any reason. They were denying bitcoin ETF for no reason as well, since in 2018 they allowed futures, but in 2021 the administration changed, Biden became the president and the applications for spot ETFs started to be denied for no reason. Senator Warren is basically Biden's right hand and she's not only a CBDC supporter, but also a hater of freedom. If she displays such attitude, I bet Biden does as well, but he's advised not to talk too much about it because it would be very easy for the people to prove that he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to bitcoin. He doesn't even know the basics of how it works.

I like Vivek and he now supports Trump. It would be great if the guy became VP.
IMO Trump is going to win if he doesn't get involved in some scandal, or put in jail and it's going to be the lesser evil for the crypto space.

Well, to me is not a surprise Biden is a president who is not supporter of the idea of Cryptocurrency and the idea of self-custody of our own crypto assets. In terms of new technologies we should no make any mistake and realize Biden is a dinosaur in that regard.
On the other hand, Trump was very much also skeptical of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, but he has allegedly received and handled Ethereum in these months (probably because of it's involvement in the selling of his own NTF collection).
He has allegedly sold over 4 million dollars in ETH.

So there is a real possibility Trump and his money managers have realized Ethereum and Bitcoin are not scams as he previously mentioned and if he wins, then he will be more flexible on the integration of Bitcoin and Ethereum within the United States economy. He could even give some relief on the taxes applied on crypto assets.

All of it is speculation, though. We must admit Trump has more chances of being crypto friendly than Biden or the establishment of the democrat party do.

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February 04, 2024, 09:33:13 PM
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The Republican media has been losing their heads lately about the fact Taylor S has been promoting all the people possible to register to vote. The interesting things about this is that Taylor does not specifically call for people to vote for a candidate of her choice, she simply wants people to register and move massively. Though, the Republican party is aware that they are more likely to lose the Presidential elections the more people vote in the incoming month of November. Hence, that is why they are panicking over the new amount of people to enter as part of the voting population.
There have been also a very high number of conspiracy theories involving Taylor and her alledged sponsorship in favor of the president Joe Biden, though, as far as I know, there have not been proofs to back those allegations.

Leaving all those things to one side, I have some something to ask: what are they chances for a single super star like her to actually influence over the odds for a candidate? Would you expect the odds for Joe Biden to rise if he managed to make a super music star to openly sponsor him?

I personally believe it is an unlikely situation, but I have already seen music stars and celebrities to endorse politicians in the past, so who knows.

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February 04, 2024, 09:39:25 PM
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The Republican media has been losing their heads lately about the fact Taylor S has been promoting all the people possible to register to vote. The interesting things about this is that Taylor does not specifically call for people to vote for a candidate of her choice, she simply wants people to register and move massively. Though, the Republican party is aware that they are more likely to lose the Presidential elections the more people vote in the incoming month of November. Hence, that is why they are panicking over the new amount of people to enter as part of the voting population.
There have been also a very high number of conspiracy theories involving Taylor and her alledged sponsorship in favor of the president Joe Biden, though, as far as I know, there have not been proofs to back those allegations.

Leaving all those things to one side, I have some something to ask: what are they chances for a single super star like her to actually influence over the odds for a candidate? Would you expect the odds for Joe Biden to rise if he managed to make a super music star to openly sponsor him?

I personally believe it is an unlikely situation, but I have already seen music stars and celebrities to endorse politicians in the past, so who knows.

a popular celebrity may influence their candidacy but i don't think people are so dumb just to vote because of the endorsement of that celebrity. if they see that the candidate is deserving enough for the position, then the backing of a super star or super popular celebrity is just secondary. i don't think people are not thinking of the future of their country. once the dust settles, it all comes to the fact that a good leader is needed to govern their country.

for sure, we will be hearing a lot of conspiracy theories once election is getting nearer. it all boils down how these candidates will use their advantage over their competitors. maybe highlight their positives and what they can really do to their government and people, not just promises but tangible steps they can truly undertake during their administration.

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February 04, 2024, 10:32:02 PM
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The Republican media has been losing their heads lately about the fact Taylor S has been promoting all the people possible to register to vote. The interesting things about this is that Taylor does not specifically call for people to vote for a candidate of her choice, she simply wants people to register and move massively. Though, the Republican party is aware that they are more likely to lose the Presidential elections the more people vote in the incoming month of November. Hence, that is why they are panicking over the new amount of people to enter as part of the voting population.
There have been also a very high number of conspiracy theories involving Taylor and her alledged sponsorship in favor of the president Joe Biden, though, as far as I know, there have not been proofs to back those allegations.

Leaving all those things to one side, I have some something to ask: what are they chances for a single super star like her to actually influence over the odds for a candidate? Would you expect the odds for Joe Biden to rise if he managed to make a super music star to openly sponsor him?

I personally believe it is an unlikely situation, but I have already seen music stars and celebrities to endorse politicians in the past, so who knows.

a popular celebrity may influence their candidacy but i don't think people are so dumb just to vote because of the endorsement of that celebrity. if they see that the candidate is deserving enough for the position, then the backing of a super star or super popular celebrity is just secondary. i don't think people are not thinking of the future of their country. once the dust settles, it all comes to the fact that a good leader is needed to govern their country.

for sure, we will be hearing a lot of conspiracy theories once election is getting nearer. it all boils down how these candidates will use their advantage over their competitors. maybe highlight their positives and what they can really do to their government and people, not just promises but tangible steps they can truly undertake during their administration.

Actually. You would be surprised on how much influence those celebrities have over the behavior and the thoughts of people. Several years ago there was some trolling campaign aiming to make people to believe Justin Bieber was suffering from Cancer and he had lost his hair because of the treatment, the people behind the hoax did so in order to convince all his female fans to cut their hair off completely as a way to show solidarity to Bieber. Thousands of them did it and showed themselves in social media with no hair left.

The point of celebrities endorsing people running for public office is about getting young people people to vote, in a situation where they would have not voted otherwise, before their favorite musician or celebrity told them to get involved in the destiny of their country. Though, I agree with you that in normal circumstances those endorsements are not supposed to change anything, however, you need to recall the last presidential election was won by Joe Biden by a very thin margin in several swing states, so if Taylor managed to add some thousands of people to vote for Either Trump or Biden, it could become a game charger in this next presidential election.

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Sure, unlike many other countries around the world, the power of the government in the United States is not centralized in the figure of the President, here is common for the president to do whatever he wants, specially because he has gotten the support of the congress and the rest of the branches of the government, but that is not necessarily what is going to happen if Trump wins, he could still have much opposition in the Senate  and house of representatives.
Perhaps, you are right and the help for Ukraine won't completely stop, but I am sure there will be Republican and even lobbies paid by the Kremlin itself to try to reduce the amount of the aid sent to your country. Hopefully I am wrong, though.

I have got the impression the United States, same as many other countries around the world, is not the kind of democracy which tries to implement what the people wants, but what the donators and the established billionaires want. It takes a look at the relationships between the members of the Supreme court of the United States and some rich people who try to use their gifts and money to influence on the decisions of the court.

Anyways, let us see if Biden can beat Trump once more and continue to support your Republic another ,four years...

No, you are not wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of officials in the West are paid by the Kremlin. If not for them, Russia would be defeated by Summer 2022. But most people in the Western governments are not that corrupt, and that's I'm sure if Trump will be elected the help for Ukraine won't stop. It's because Russia can't buy most of the U.S. officials.

Meanwhile Trump is getting more and more support fro the bettors:



Now I'd even say it's not that interesting to bet him, to be honest.

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February 05, 2024, 04:20:23 PM
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Sure, unlike many other countries around the world, the power of the government in the United States is not centralized in the figure of the President, here is common for the president to do whatever he wants, specially because he has gotten the support of the congress and the rest of the branches of the government, but that is not necessarily what is going to happen if Trump wins, he could still have much opposition in the Senate  and house of representatives.
Perhaps, you are right and the help for Ukraine won't completely stop, but I am sure there will be Republican and even lobbies paid by the Kremlin itself to try to reduce the amount of the aid sent to your country. Hopefully I am wrong, though.

I have got the impression the United States, same as many other countries around the world, is not the kind of democracy which tries to implement what the people wants, but what the donators and the established billionaires want. It takes a look at the relationships between the members of the Supreme court of the United States and some rich people who try to use their gifts and money to influence on the decisions of the court.

Anyways, let us see if Biden can beat Trump once more and continue to support your Republic another ,four years...

No, you are not wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of officials in the West are paid by the Kremlin. If not for them, Russia would be defeated by Summer 2022. But most people in the Western governments are not that corrupt, and that's I'm sure if Trump will be elected the help for Ukraine won't stop. It's because Russia can't buy most of the U.S. officials.

Meanwhile Trump is getting more and more support fro the bettors:



Now I'd even say it's not that interesting to bet him, to be honest.

Why would not be interesting to bet on him? Only because the odds?
I believe this may be one of the most important and relevants presidential elections in the history of the modern United States or America, so there are a lot of reasons not only to vote in them if one is a Citizen of that country, but also to bet on one candidate, according to what we believe it could happen.
The odds of Donald Trump could easily be influenced by the decisions to be taken by the justice system in the United States, for now it was been clear indictments alone are not enough to make their voters to go away, though, some surveys have suggested he would start to lose much of his backing if he indeed is found guilty of some felony. That may cause his odds to dump very hard and give advantage to Joe Biden.

Also, I knew there were some Russian influence in the West, specially in west Europe and the United States, but I did not know it has so big that they prevented Ukraines victory two years ago. Where did you find that information?

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February 09, 2024, 04:58:28 PM
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We are approaching an interesting point in this presidential race in the United States for both those who only follow this for political reasons and also those who have set bets on either Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
It is expecting the Supreme court of the United States to rule whether Trump  an be actually be excluded from the election ballot, based on one of the amendments of the Constitution of the United States which forbids insurrectionists from running from public office. I wonder why would casinos do if Trump gets effectively disqualified from running for president in this year. Will they close their markets before the election actually takes place and distribute the money or will they wait for the inauguration of the winner (whoever it is) before closing the markets and distributing the money of the losers to the winners?
For the sake of the casinos reputation and for people not to over-react to the decision, I would rather casinos to way for the day of inauguration or the declaration of the winner, instead closing it all if Trump is kicked out the ballot, perhaps they will not close anything since Nikki Haley could still have a chance to be the president if Trump goes away; though, I am skeptical on Republicans electing a woman for the first time in the United States history...

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February 10, 2024, 02:29:13 AM
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We are approaching an interesting point in this presidential race in the United States for both those who only follow this for political reasons and also those who have set bets on either Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
It is expecting the Supreme court of the United States to rule whether Trump  an be actually be excluded from the election ballot, based on one of the amendments of the Constitution of the United States which forbids insurrectionists from running from public office. I wonder why would casinos do if Trump gets effectively disqualified from running for president in this year. Will they close their markets before the election actually takes place and distribute the money or will they wait for the inauguration of the winner (whoever it is) before closing the markets and distributing the money of the losers to the winners?
For the sake of the casinos reputation and for people not to over-react to the decision, I would rather casinos to way for the day of inauguration or the declaration of the winner, instead closing it all if Trump is kicked out the ballot, perhaps they will not close anything since Nikki Haley could still have a chance to be the president if Trump goes away; though, I am skeptical on Republicans electing a woman for the first time in the United States history...

If I remember correctly, I think I read that the ability to run for president is a state issue, not federal.

So, there might be the case that some states don't allow Trump to run for president and yet he still manages to win the election.

I'm not sure about the legal aspect of it, and if they need to be allowed in every state, but I think it won't be a major issue if the states that don't allow him are states where he was going to lose anyway.

I might be wrong about it though, and it might be more nuanced than this, I just don't know enough about the system, but that's how it looks like to me.

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February 10, 2024, 03:35:09 AM
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Sure, unlike many other countries around the world, the power of the government in the United States is not centralized in the figure of the President, here is common for the president to do whatever he wants, specially because he has gotten the support of the congress and the rest of the branches of the government, but that is not necessarily what is going to happen if Trump wins, he could still have much opposition in the Senate  and house of representatives.
Perhaps, you are right and the help for Ukraine won't completely stop, but I am sure there will be Republican and even lobbies paid by the Kremlin itself to try to reduce the amount of the aid sent to your country. Hopefully I am wrong, though.

I have got the impression the United States, same as many other countries around the world, is not the kind of democracy which tries to implement what the people wants, but what the donators and the established billionaires want. It takes a look at the relationships between the members of the Supreme court of the United States and some rich people who try to use their gifts and money to influence on the decisions of the court.

Anyways, let us see if Biden can beat Trump once more and continue to support your Republic another ,four years...

No, you are not wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of officials in the West are paid by the Kremlin. If not for them, Russia would be defeated by Summer 2022. But most people in the Western governments are not that corrupt, and that's I'm sure if Trump will be elected the help for Ukraine won't stop. It's because Russia can't buy most of the U.S. officials.

Meanwhile Trump is getting more and more support fro the bettors:



Now I'd even say it's not that interesting to bet him, to be honest.

Why would not be interesting to bet on him? Only because the odds?
I believe this may be one of the most important and relevants presidential elections in the history of the modern United States or America, so there are a lot of reasons not only to vote in them if one is a Citizen of that country, but also to bet on one candidate, according to what we believe it could happen.
The odds of Donald Trump could easily be influenced by the decisions to be taken by the justice system in the United States, for now it was been clear indictments alone are not enough to make their voters to go away, though, some surveys have suggested he would start to lose much of his backing if he indeed is found guilty of some felony. That may cause his odds to dump very hard and give advantage to Joe Biden.

Also, I knew there were some Russian influence in the West, specially in west Europe and the United States, but I did not know it has so big that they prevented Ukraines victory two years ago. Where did you find that information?

Sportsbooks do not offer odds without any counted or measured basis. These offers are not based news or their opinions. These are based on numbers and data because if they are not, sportbooks would be bankrupt already hehehe.

Also, on the Ukraine war, Noam Chomsky who is a leftist political commentator said that Trump would have dome better for Ukraine because what he might do is make negotiations with Russia to prevent war. He did this during his administration, this is way Russia avoided starting it.

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February 10, 2024, 02:09:14 PM
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If I remember correctly, I think I read that the ability to run for president is a state issue, not federal.

So, there might be the case that some states don't allow Trump to run for president and yet he still manages to win the election.


You are right there, it mostly depends on the states which decide to exclude Donald Trump from the ballot, if California decided to exclude him, then there would be no difference since California is traditionally a very sapphire blue state with no chance of winning for Trump this year, on the other hand if Texas or Florida excluded Trump from participating in the ballot then it would be a very serious matter to him, because those are states which at the time being are Ruby red and very important for the Republican party to secure their possible victory, though Florida or Texas taking that step is very unlikely to happen. The choice then comes down to purple states or the so called swinging states, like Nevada.



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Sure, unlike many other countries around the world, the power of the government in the United States is not centralized in the figure of the President, here is common for the president to do whatever he wants, specially because he has gotten the support of the congress and the rest of the branches of the government, but that is not necessarily what is going to happen if Trump wins, he could still have much opposition in the Senate  and house of representatives.
Perhaps, you are right and the help for Ukraine won't completely stop, but I am sure there will be Republican and even lobbies paid by the Kremlin itself to try to reduce the amount of the aid sent to your country. Hopefully I am wrong, though.

I have got the impression the United States, same as many other countries around the world, is not the kind of democracy which tries to implement what the people wants, but what the donators and the established billionaires want. It takes a look at the relationships between the members of the Supreme court of the United States and some rich people who try to use their gifts and money to influence on the decisions of the court.

Anyways, let us see if Biden can beat Trump once more and continue to support your Republic another ,four years...

No, you are not wrong. Unfortunately, a lot of officials in the West are paid by the Kremlin. If not for them, Russia would be defeated by Summer 2022. But most people in the Western governments are not that corrupt, and that's I'm sure if Trump will be elected the help for Ukraine won't stop. It's because Russia can't buy most of the U.S. officials.

Meanwhile Trump is getting more and more support fro the bettors:



Now I'd even say it's not that interesting to bet him, to be honest.
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Sportsbooks do not offer odds without any counted or measured basis. These offers are not based news or their opinions. These are based on numbers and data because if they are not, sportbooks would be bankrupt already hehehe.

Also, on the Ukraine war, Noam Chomsky who is a leftist political commentator said that Trump would have dome better for Ukraine because what he might do is make negotiations with Russia to prevent war. He did this during his administration, this is way Russia avoided starting it.

It depends on the personal point of view of each person within the left. though I must admit that most of the political left in the United States seems to agree the USA and the west in general is supposed to be tough in Russia and not allow Putin to expand and invade other countries, if we talk about negotiations then I believe it would be likely for Trump be positively biased in favor of Russia instead of Ukraine. If Trump manages to get into the White house again, I would note be surprised if he tried to push Ukraine into the negotiating table with Russia and give up on part of their territory in exchange for peace or a long standing ceasefire.


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Why would not be interesting to bet on him? Only because the odds?
I believe this may be one of the most important and relevants presidential elections in the history of the modern United States or America, so there are a lot of reasons not only to vote in them if one is a Citizen of that country, but also to bet on one candidate, according to what we believe it could happen.
The odds of Donald Trump could easily be influenced by the decisions to be taken by the justice system in the United States, for now it was been clear indictments alone are not enough to make their voters to go away, though, some surveys have suggested he would start to lose much of his backing if he indeed is found guilty of some felony. That may cause his odds to dump very hard and give advantage to Joe Biden.

Also, I knew there were some Russian influence in the West, specially in west Europe and the United States, but I did not know it has so big that they prevented Ukraines victory two years ago. Where did you find that information?

Yes, because of the odds. But that's me. Sometimes I realize that my style of betting might appear weird to some people and rightly so. I wouldn't advice to follow my moves. Smiley

As for Ukraine's victory two years ago, it's subjective. I'm Ukrainian and I live in Ukraine, and want Russians out of my land, ... but it's so offtopic it hurts. Let's leave it there.

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Yes, because of the odds. But that's me. Sometimes I realize that my style of betting might appear weird to some people and rightly so. I wouldn't advice to follow my moves. Smiley


I believe when comes to betting on events like this one (elections and political happenings), it is common to see lower odds than in some sport matches, that is true, that is the downside. The upside is that there is a lot of time for people to analyze (with the United States elections we have literal months before choosing our move) and we have more resources to lead ourselves to a right prediction, you know: polls, rallies, news; now we have indictments, scandals with secret documents... This could be a good chance for some people wise within the political analysis so make some good money, even those with those low odds. It must be kind of weird for someone like you to be in the spotlight of the news and becoming an important factor for the United States to choose their next leader and the alleged leader of the free world.
I believe you have told me before, you think Trump does not actually many chances to become the next president of the country, if so, then you should step forward and wager some money in favor of Joe Biden, not much, though. It could be fun.  Smiley
I am myself waiting for this year to continue to advance before finally deciding where to put my money on, if you already have a choice then do it.

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Also, on the Ukraine war, Noam Chomsky who is a leftist political commentator said that Trump would have dome better for Ukraine because what he might do is make negotiations with Russia to prevent war. He did this during his administration, this is way Russia avoided starting it.

Yes, I absolutely agree, that's what most probably is going to happen in case Trump wins. And it's pretty logical. In fact, Ukraine should have started negotiations when they managed to push the Russians back last year. Now it's a bit late but still possible.

People around the globe are tired of this war and they want to end it ASAP. Trump will be a heavy favourite, Biden is too old and he's allegedly just a sockpuppet and in fact guys like Anthony Blinken are in charge.   
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Giving what Russia wants is not negotiation, being friendly with Russia is one approach and I agree that Trump would have prevented the war, which would be an awesome thing because nobody would have to die. But also, you are giving up freedom in that case, Ukraine is their own nation and they wanted to be part of Nato, they wanted to become more west, and when they decided to do that Russia started attacking.

So, what we are saying here is that Trump would basically talk with Putin, say Ukraine can't get in, and prevented the war. Would we want a president who would take away freedom of choice from another nation, to stop a war? Maybe, that would be a possibility but I rather let the world see that Russia is a dictatorship and an evil state right now. Russians are lovely by the way, I am saying this just for Putin.

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Giving what Russia wants is not negotiation, being friendly with Russia is one approach and I agree that Trump would have prevented the war, which would be an awesome thing because nobody would have to die.

Exactly this! Trump is more of a businessman than a politician he knows how to treat his business partners. If a crisis can be avoided, it should be avoided at any cost.  

But also, you are giving up freedom in that case, Ukraine is their own nation and they wanted to be part of Nato, they wanted to become more west, and when they decided to do that Russia started attacking.

We need to dig deeper... have you heard about the BIG GAME? Are you sure the Ukrainian nation really wants it? Do they want NATO? Are you sure about that?

Just ask yourself: all these "revolutions" in ex-USSR countries which are exact carbon copies of each other (Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus) were they real or  were they set up by someone? They even tried it in Russia with Navalny but failed. Putin is too tough.  
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February 18, 2024, 12:42:42 PM
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Also, on the Ukraine war, Noam Chomsky who is a leftist political commentator said that Trump would have dome better for Ukraine because what he might do is make negotiations with Russia to prevent war. He did this during his administration, this is way Russia avoided starting it.

Yes, I absolutely agree, that's what most probably is going to happen in case Trump wins. And it's pretty logical. In fact, Ukraine should have started negotiations when they managed to push the Russians back last year. Now it's a bit late but still possible.

People around the globe are tired of this war and they want to end it ASAP. Trump will be a heavy favourite, Biden is too old and he's allegedly just a sockpuppet and in fact guys like Anthony Blinken are in charge.  
Trump is one of the former leaders of country who really has big influence on the sustainability of every country and Trump can make several preventative efforts that can at least reduce conflict, considering that from several previous cases that occurred, Trump was indeed able to overcome it.
May not there is be able to reconcile the two of them not to carry out several war conflicts, but the US under Trump influence has indeed proven that he can actually defuse it in certain amount of time.
It just that in the future we will never be able to know whether something similar could happen again or not if Trump wins because Russia itself is also increasing its number of allies and increasing its resources to really make the conflict even hotter.

If in the future Trump is able to do this, he will gain sympathy from several Middle Eastern countries, this will be Trump advantage while serving as US leader.

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Michelle Obama is lower odds then Nikki Haley thats funny as hell.   No way does Ms. Obama have pretentions to become president, I'm sure on that line of thinking its a very USA thing I guess but even then I think its not even a proper bet.  At 500 to 1 I'd say go for it and I say those odds as Trump himself had such remote odds and the impossible happened so never say never but those are just bad odds, dont do it.    I'd rather bet on Obama's daughters tbh and thats not even a legal bet as well as making little sense anyhow, maybe an open ended bet for any election that'd make some sense as a special.
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I agree for similar reasoning, the odds dont seem good enough.  I'm definitely looking for a peak Trump effect, every trend has a peak to its trajectory and often the breadth of movement defies those who would doubt it yet it carries on under the mass of its own inertia;  I suppose betting can be similar to any other financial consideration and valuation.

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Giving what Russia wants is not negotiation, being friendly with Russia is one approach and I agree that Trump would have prevented the war, which would be an awesome thing because nobody would have to die. But also, you are giving up freedom in that case, Ukraine is their own nation and they wanted to be part of Nato, they wanted to become more west, and when they decided to do that Russia started attacking.

So, what we are saying here is that Trump would basically talk with Putin, say Ukraine can't get in, and prevented the war. Would we want a president who would take away freedom of choice from another nation, to stop a war? Maybe, that would be a possibility but I rather let the world see that Russia is a dictatorship and an evil state right now. Russians are lovely by the way, I am saying this just for Putin.


Makes me wonder how the sense of patriotism and love for freedom will play as a factor in this incoming election. Even Republicans, specially reasonable Republicans can see Russia is more or less a dictatorship with a system which does not allow any opposition to exist, those Republicans may keep the meaning of freedom in their minds whenever they hear Trump talking positively about Putin and and current state of the politics in Russia. Some of them will turn their back on Trump, because regardless on how many people are willing to vote for him not matter what, there have been another silent group which is not willing to vote against their own sense of what freedom is and why it is so important.

The special election held in New York to fill the seat left empty by George Santos and won by the democrat party may only be another proof of the existence of such silent group of people, they may not vote for democrats, but are not willing to vote for Trump either, they stay home as a form of protest. I have not checked whether Trump's odds have changed since that election took place.

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February 19, 2024, 11:07:38 AM
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Giving what Russia wants is not negotiation, being friendly with Russia is one approach and I agree that Trump would have prevented the war, which would be an awesome thing because nobody would have to die. But also, you are giving up freedom in that case, Ukraine is their own nation and they wanted to be part of Nato, they wanted to become more west, and when they decided to do that Russia started attacking.

So, what we are saying here is that Trump would basically talk with Putin, say Ukraine can't get in, and prevented the war. Would we want a president who would take away freedom of choice from another nation, to stop a war? Maybe, that would be a possibility but I rather let the world see that Russia is a dictatorship and an evil state right now. Russians are lovely by the way, I am saying this just for Putin.

Don't be so naive. Trump's words that he will stop the war within 24 hours after he becomes President of the United States again are nothing more than an empty campaign promise that he will not be able to fulfill at all.

First, Trump was President of the United States from January 2017 to January 2021. At the same time, the war with Russia in eastern Ukraine has continued since 2014 throughout the Trump presidency. We haven’t seen any efforts by Trump to stop this war before.

Secondly, what Trump is proposing, namely leaving almost four regions conquered in Ukraine to Russia, will not suit either Ukraine or Russia. Putin may temporarily agree to such conditions, but only so that a truce can come and Russia can prepare for the next territorial seizure of Ukraine, because now Putin’s army has largely lost its combat capability, and the losses in military equipment are simply catastrophic. As for Ukraine, they have long been saying that negotiations with Russia are possible only after Russia withdraws its troops from Ukraine, including the Russian-occupied Crimea peninsula. Trump in this situation can only try to weaken or stop providing assistance to Ukraine, but it is still unclear how Congress and the US people in general will look at this.

Thirdly, the assistance provided by the United States to Ukraine is significant, but about 50 other countries, including European countries, also provide it within their means. And such assistance is growing. Putin understands this, which is why he recently said that the fate of Russia is being decided in Ukraine. In order to divert attention from Ukraine and weaken the assistance provided to it, the Kremlin is provoking the outbreak of military conflicts around the world, including the Hamas attack on Israel. Now the intelligence of European countries has received information about Russia's impending war against the three Baltic states - Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. Even if things don't go according to plan again, it will be easier for Putin to justify his defeat in a war against NATO members than in a war against relatively small Ukraine.

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February 19, 2024, 12:14:35 PM
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I believe when comes to betting on events like this one (elections and political happenings), it is common to see lower odds than in some sport matches, that is true, that is the downside. The upside is that there is a lot of time for people to analyze (with the United States elections we have literal months before choosing our move) and we have more resources to lead ourselves to a right prediction, you know: polls, rallies, news; now we have indictments, scandals with secret documents... This could be a good chance for some people wise within the political analysis so make some good money, even those with those low odds. It must be kind of weird for someone like you to be in the spotlight of the news and becoming an important factor for the United States to choose their next leader and the alleged leader of the free world.
I believe you have told me before, you think Trump does not actually many chances to become the next president of the country, if so, then you should step forward and wager some money in favor of Joe Biden, not much, though. It could be fun.  Smiley
I am myself waiting for this year to continue to advance before finally deciding where to put my money on, if you already have a choice then do it.

Yes, it can be fun. I mean, I think I'll wager a dollar closer to the elections. It'll give, what, three dollars? Still it will be fun, right?

Now look Michelle Obama is the third favourite among gamblers:



I would definitely wager a dollar on her if you ask me. I'll wait a bit and maybe the multiplier for her will be over 10.00 again and then I will place my bet. She has a good chance in my opinion.

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