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March 02, 2024, 03:49:23 PM
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Betting on election is like playing a virtual or stimulated game, you know most elections are rigged and it's not free and fair like a football match that is based on competitive power.

But it's not such a bad idea, at least we know those that are most likely to win since  I'm sure amongst all the many candidates you would find only two that are actually well spoken and seems to be the major candidates amongst others, so ill just narrow my odds towards them, and I'll surely stake if they give a good odds. Besides it's all for the money.

You talk about politics as if everything was rigged, it is a common way to think nowadays, unfortunately. However, you compare it to football games as if those matches were impossible to fix or mess around with. Ideally, it is true football is a competitive game which is supposed to be able physical prowess and abilities and those who win are better in some way to their foes, but it was been cases in all kind of traditional sports and e-sports where those in the competition have been convinced to lose on purpose, for the sake of providing huge wins to organized crime syndicates. When comes to politics, it is about power and money, unlike fixed bets which are just about money.

By the way, we all here are aware betting in this presidential election is just about money, ideology is not to keep in mind when one is just trying to guess the result of such important event like this one. There will be democrat bettors who will place their stake in favor of Trump and vice-versa.

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March 02, 2024, 04:24:56 PM
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Betting on election is like playing a virtual or stimulated game, you know most elections are rigged and it's not free and fair like a football match that is based on competitive power.

But it's not such a bad idea, at least we know those that are most likely to win since  I'm sure amongst all the many candidates you would find only two that are actually well spoken and seems to be the major candidates amongst others, so ill just narrow my odds towards them, and I'll surely stake if they give a good odds. Besides it's all for the money.

You talk about politics as if everything was rigged, it is a common way to think nowadays, unfortunately. However, you compare it to football games as if those matches were impossible to fix or mess around with. Ideally, it is true football is a competitive game which is supposed to be able physical prowess and abilities and those who win are better in some way to their foes, but it was been cases in all kind of traditional sports and e-sports where those in the competition have been convinced to lose on purpose, for the sake of providing huge wins to organized crime syndicates. When comes to politics, it is about power and money, unlike fixed bets which are just about money.

By the way, we all here are aware betting in this presidential election is just about money, ideology is not to keep in mind when one is just trying to guess the result of such important event like this one. There will be democrat bettors who will place their stake in favor of Trump and vice-versa.

They bet for Trump but still believe Trumps a dick.

He still makes money out of Trump that's the best part. But I'm not sure what he meant by the election being rigged. If everyone knew this information, Trump wouldn't be running anymore. The world seems to be against him before he decides to run again yet he still runs. The odds are favoring Biden in the beginning, I think he would have kept his peace if he knew the election is always rigged.

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March 03, 2024, 02:30:04 AM
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They bet for Trump but still believe Trumps a dick.

He still makes money out of Trump that's the best part. But I'm not sure what he meant by the election being rigged. If everyone knew this information, Trump wouldn't be running anymore. The world seems to be against him before he decides to run again yet he still runs. The odds are favoring Biden in the beginning, I think he would have kept his peace if he knew the election is always rigged.

They bet on Trump because he will win. Trump also being a dick, however, why is he leading the surveys? What occurrences have caused this? It caused by the corruption and incompetency of the Democrats and the people are presently supporting another corrupt and incompetent candidate.

Also, the elections being always rigged, I disagree. There is always an attempt on manipulating the result of an election, however, if there is a candiate who is popular enough, manipulating it would be very difficult. Trump 2024 is this type of candidate.

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March 03, 2024, 03:00:52 PM
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Betting on election is like playing a virtual or stimulated game, you know most elections are rigged and it's not free and fair like a football match that is based on competitive power.

But it's not such a bad idea, at least we know those that are most likely to win since  I'm sure amongst all the many candidates you would find only two that are actually well spoken and seems to be the major candidates amongst others, so ill just narrow my odds towards them, and I'll surely stake if they give a good odds. Besides it's all for the money.

You talk about politics as if everything was rigged, it is a common way to think nowadays, unfortunately. However, you compare it to football games as if those matches were impossible to fix or mess around with. Ideally, it is true football is a competitive game which is supposed to be able physical prowess and abilities and those who win are better in some way to their foes, but it was been cases in all kind of traditional sports and e-sports where those in the competition have been convinced to lose on purpose, for the sake of providing huge wins to organized crime syndicates. When comes to politics, it is about power and money, unlike fixed bets which are just about money.

By the way, we all here are aware betting in this presidential election is just about money, ideology is not to keep in mind when one is just trying to guess the result of such important event like this one. There will be democrat bettors who will place their stake in favor of Trump and vice-versa.

They bet for Trump but still believe Trumps a dick.

He still makes money out of Trump that's the best part. But I'm not sure what he meant by the election being rigged. If everyone knew this information, Trump wouldn't be running anymore. The world seems to be against him before he decides to run again yet he still runs. The odds are favoring Biden in the beginning, I think he would have kept his peace if he knew the election is always rigged.


He knows the election is not rigged, actually there have been testimonials being said under oath from his previous staff members on how he was aware he lost to Joe Biden back in 2020-2021. So either Trump is lying for his own political benefits or he was genuinely convinced by the conspiracy theories brought to them by his former lawyers and by other members of his team, you know, about the ballot stuffing going on in Georgia and the alledged mules trafficking with the voters political will.
By the way, if the election was actually rigged as Trump claims to be, then in theory, there is supposed to be no MAGA people or Republicans who like Trump betting in his favor, it is a direct contradiction on the Bettor's logic. Would you be willing to be on an election or a match which you know is rigged? I don't think so.

In other news, I have noticed Trump and his team have been able to successfully delay all the criminal prosecutions against him both in the case of secret documents in Mar-a-Lago and also in the Georgia RICao case. If he continues this way, then odds will continue to show he is the preferred candidate of bettors.

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March 03, 2024, 04:36:07 PM
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I believe that Trump doesn't look that much far ahead of Biden, even if he is in most polls I see him only edging out Biden, and that's polls, we are talking about something that will not be all that easy to handle for Trump when it comes to elections because people still remember him. The more he talks, the more enemy he makes and that's the most important part, dude is not someone who inspires devotion, he is just a guy who republicans think could win against Biden, and nobody else had that shot, so that's why they picked him.

This doesn't mean he won't win, of course he could, that's the only reason he is nominated, but at the same time Biden is not the reason why people vote for him, Biden is "not trump" option that 80+ million, a USA history record breaking number of people voted for Biden.

I kind of disagree with you when you say Trump is a personality who does not inspire devotion among Republican voters. In reality, an important percentage of people who identify themselves as part of the MAGA movement have shown some characteristics which are typical of people who are involved or trapped inside a cult or a very shady religious organization. In the case being Donald Trump the Leader of such cult.
Even though they could be biased, I have taken some time to see left wing media interviewing Trump supporters and there are some of them who have said very wacky things, like Trump being directly appointed by God himself/Jesus to direct the United States into an era of prosperity and glory, how also they blindly support the massive deportation of people from the country, among other things.
Perhaps, you have not realized it yet, but I am quite sure Trump is counting on those "cult-ish" followers to win next November, because they are willing to vote for him no matter the indictments, the results of civil prosecutions or the retention of super secret documents inside his home in Mar-a-lago.


Things with Trump sound a lot, the guy can be very arrogant and can do things in a very grotesque way, but seeing the current situation in the USA things can be very different, we are people who have always seen that the United States does not He is very happy with Biden because he has done many things that may be very different from what they are looking for, but I know that the American, the native, does not like the situation, neither the immigration nor the Economic situation , the situation they have with a very high inflation, then they want to change that, but they see that with Biden it is not possible, so given these things it is not possible to generate more progress, more development, then a Trump arrives with an aggressive attitude, but with a lot of patriotism and in part that is What the American likes, Trump can be whatever, but I'm seeing through the news that he raises the masses a lot and they follow him, I don't know , but that's how it is , I only see and say what I have seen in almost all the Newscasts.

So I wonder if you didn't like it during Trump's previous term, then why do you like it now? This is something I don't see well, however when we see and Analyze things , I see that TRUMP is a Person who manifests the radicality of things, the Radicalization of a capitlism , the radicalization of migratory processes, the radicalization of wars , and this is partly because Americans like to see power, that they have power on a global level, China is already getting very close to them, China has great development, and this at a political and economic level and these things make that a country like the USA is affected, then I consider that the USA has many Flaws, according to people who are there, people who speak on the news, so all this seems confusing to me, if the election were today? who will win then? because I go if Trump wins today.

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March 03, 2024, 07:29:29 PM
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Maybe he is just like Trump for betting on who will be the president in the 2024 election because it's almost clear now who will win. Michelle Obama or Nikki, I don't think they have a chance.

They are still up to file lawsuits against Trump which is also the reason why more people are realizing the Dem are fighting unfairly against him. It is even the reason why Truckers rallied for him when he was asked to pay on time.

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Nikki has a chance maybe slim on the basis Trump is the most litigated candidate to ever ask for a run at the presidency.  At present it seems his own party views it as a rallying call and many would say its only helped rouse the crowd to greater figures but the wider picture its still possible he could be excluded.   If you dont believe the absolute exclusion then at least consider outside of Republican's, facing criminal charges is not a good look; once upon a time just the question of criminality would have ended the chances of a run vs almost any other choice.

The last poll I saw printed had Trump ahead which is astonishing but I dont buy the hype personally, I think it will peak and fall off vs reality.

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March 04, 2024, 07:39:38 AM
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Nikki has a chance maybe slim on the basis Trump is the most litigated candidate to ever ask for a run at the presidency.  At present it seems his own party views it as a rallying call and many would say its only helped rouse the crowd to greater figures but the wider picture its still possible he could be excluded.   If you dont believe the absolute exclusion then at least consider outside of Republican's, facing criminal charges is not a good look; once upon a time just the question of criminality would have ended the chances of a run vs almost any other choice.

The last poll I saw printed had Trump ahead which is astonishing but I dont buy the hype personally, I think it will peak and fall off vs reality.

I personally don't think there is a real possibility of Nikki becoming president.

The numbers are just so far behind that I really don't think it is even possible.

If anything, Trump charges are making him more famous and more people are supporting him.

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Quote from: Betwrong link=topic=5445993~[/quote

I get that you like big multipliers and all that, but even if Biden's health condition deteriorated much during these months, it would be still very unlikely the Democrat party ended up choosing Michelle Obama as an emergency replacement for Joe Biden, you know.
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Well, I disagree. I think she's very popular among American people. I really it's time to elect the first woman on this post. Bettors prefer her for Gavin Newsom, and I think for a reason. Right now Michelle Obama is at 9/1, and if a site I'm making my sports betting on is accepting 10/1, I will place several bucks on her.

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Quote from: Betwrong link=topic=5445993~[/quote

I get that you like big multipliers and all that, but even if Biden's health condition deteriorated much during these months, it would be still very unlikely the Democrat party ended up choosing Michelle Obama as an emergency replacement for Joe Biden, you know.
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Well, I disagree. I think she's very popular among American people. I really it's time to elect the first woman on this post. Bettors prefer her for Gavin Newsom, and I think for a reason. Right now Michelle Obama is at 9/1, and if a site I'm making my sports betting on is accepting 10/1, I will place several bucks on her.

I mean, you are free to place bets in favor of her, that is the risk you are willing to take and it is also your money, so no problems with that at all.  Wink
Though, in order for you to understand why Michelle Obama is very unlikely to even be a candidate is because she had already mentioned she is not interested in that position, getting into politics.
Also, as I have monetioned before, The United States is not ready to elect their first woman president of color yet, their society is very divided on race, religion, origin and even traditions, specially in these though periods of time.
The political right of the USA won't give a pass to Michelle Obama being a black woman and they will indirectly point it out in their broadcasts and programs, in order to keep people away from voting for her, specially moderate Republicans and independent voters.

Though, since I know you are considering to place bets in her favor just for the sake of fun, then be my guess. Let us see how all turns out.

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I personally don't think there is a real possibility of Nikki becoming president.

The numbers are just so far behind that I really don't think it is even possible.

If anything, Trump charges are making him more famous and more people are supporting him.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-melts-down-after-trump-loses-his-first-gop-primary-to-nikki-haley/ar-BB1jhcu1

President is a far reach sure, I guess I was focusing on the nomination to the party and what happens if Trump is just not available.  In that sense she has the greatest chance an also ran ever could claim to have, hence I do understand why she continues to run for the nomination.

Trump is cleared of exclusion from Colorado by SOCTUS for the simple reason he has not been convicted of insurrection and so that rule cannot apply.  Making a speech in a country which protects free speech is not grounds to exclude someone from political office.  Regardless of Trump the person, the concept of democracy ranks far higher then any of the candidates and should never be compromised.

Its fair to assume Trump is eventually allowed to run for the election and makes the nomination easily due to such widespread support in at least his own party, I do doubt he wins the actual second term.  I would bet on that outcome if the odds were high and profitable but they are not and Im not persuaded by a poor risk low payoff bet so Im not looking to do that.  I might even lay Trump bets if I get the chance.

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March 04, 2024, 06:18:38 PM
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I personally don't think there is a real possibility of Nikki becoming president.

The numbers are just so far behind that I really don't think it is even possible.

If anything, Trump charges are making him more famous and more people are supporting him.

President is a far reach sure, I guess I was focusing on the nomination to the party and what happens if Trump is just not available.  In that sense she has the greatest chance an also ran ever could claim to have, hence I do understand why she continues to run for the nomination.

Trump is cleared of exclusion from Colorado by SOCTUS for the simple reason he has not been convicted of insurrection and so that rule cannot apply.  Making a speech in a country which protects free speech is not grounds to exclude someone from political office.  Regardless of Trump the person, the concept of democracy ranks far higher then any of the candidates and should never be compromised.

Its fair to assume Trump is eventually allowed to run for the election and makes the nomination easily due to such widespread support in at least his own party, I do doubt he wins the actual second term.  I would bet on that outcome if the odds were high and profitable but they are not and Im not persuaded by a poor risk low payoff bet so Im not looking to do that.  I might even lay Trump bets if I get the chance.

9-0 decision. Since he is now on the Colorado ballot, he might as well be in all states in Nov.  The ruling doesn't make sense and it's all because of an accusation. Illinois will follow soon. They know Biden will not win with all the mess right now and the speculation that they will not nominate him is likely to happen but there is just no one to put that can possibly win against Trump.

With the current odds, I think it's still a good bet.

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I personally don't think there is a real possibility of Nikki becoming president.

The numbers are just so far behind that I really don't think it is even possible.

If anything, Trump charges are making him more famous and more people are supporting him.

President is a far reach sure, I guess I was focusing on the nomination to the party and what happens if Trump is just not available.  In that sense she has the greatest chance an also ran ever could claim to have, hence I do understand why she continues to run for the nomination.

Trump is cleared of exclusion from Colorado by SOCTUS for the simple reason he has not been convicted of insurrection and so that rule cannot apply.  Making a speech in a country which protects free speech is not grounds to exclude someone from political office.  Regardless of Trump the person, the concept of democracy ranks far higher then any of the candidates and should never be compromised.

Its fair to assume Trump is eventually allowed to run for the election and makes the nomination easily due to such widespread support in at least his own party, I do doubt he wins the actual second term.  I would bet on that outcome if the odds were high and profitable but they are not and Im not persuaded by a poor risk low payoff bet so Im not looking to do that.  I might even lay Trump bets if I get the chance.

9-0 decision. Since he is now on the Colorado ballot, he might as well be in all states in Nov.  The ruling doesn't make sense and it's all because of an accusation. Illinois will follow soon. They know Biden will not win with all the mess right now and the speculation that they will not nominate him is likely to happen but there is just no one to put that can possibly win against Trump.

With the current odds, I think it's still a good bet.


Now this is a fun thread, I don't think there could be any more of a controversial thread that is geared towards the US. As for me I would put all my money on Trump. And honestly I think that even if you look at what Putin recently said about Biden, how he is better suited because he is "old school" and having him as President is better for Russia is such a great endoresement for Trump lol. I don't care what you think about Donald Trump, that mother fucker has a moxy unlike anyone else on this planet. His shit always seems to stick, he is tough as nails, a savvy businessman, and so much more. If you can't tell I am very much Pro Trump, he will win in a fair fight! Grandpa Joe will be in the retirement home soon.

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Well, I disagree. I think she's very popular among American people. I really it's time to elect the first woman on this post. Bettors prefer her for Gavin Newsom, and I think for a reason. Right now Michelle Obama is at 9/1, and if a site I'm making my sports betting on is accepting 10/1, I will place several bucks on her.

Popular among whom? She is not even active in politics. And we are already in March and now only 6-7 months remains for the POTUS election of 2024. Even if a section of the Democrats want to project Michelle as the POTUS nominee, there is simply not enough time to do that. And why there should be any emergency replacement? As long as Biden is not hospitalized, there is no need for that. Michelle Obama can be the VP candidate for 2024. Maybe in 2028, she can be the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party.

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Popular among whom? She is not even active in politics. And we are already in March and now only 6-7 months remains for the POTUS election of 2024. Even if a section of the Democrats want to project Michelle as the POTUS nominee, there is simply not enough time to do that. And why there should be any emergency replacement? As long as Biden is not hospitalized, there is no need for that. Michelle Obama can be the VP candidate for 2024. Maybe in 2028, she can be the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party.

I don't really think there's any other contender than Biden and Trump to become president.

Trump just got good news with a ruling overturning the ban on him being in the ballot.

I'm sure this whole thing will end up with Trump even more popular than before.

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Maybe he is just like Trump for betting on who will be the president in the 2024 election because it's almost clear now who will win. Michelle Obama or Nikki, I don't think they have a chance.

They are still up to file lawsuits against Trump which is also the reason why more people are realizing the Dem are fighting unfairly against him. It is even the reason why Truckers rallied for him when he was asked to pay on time.

Also, election only are something similar to a popularity contest. This is a beauty pageant on who the people would like to vote on a certain time. The qualifications are unimportant for much of the voters hehehe. Why do always we have stupid leaders? Ask yourself this and do not blame the politician for causing your cou try to be in a much worse situation. You should blame these people who voted for the leader hehehehe.

In any case, if there is a trumpcoin and a bidencoin created which of these would pump and which would dump? This would prove who is more popular. This also is something similar to a bet.

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March 06, 2024, 12:31:57 PM
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I don't really think there's any other contender than Biden and Trump to become president.

Trump just got good news with a ruling overturning the ban on him being in the ballot.

I'm sure this whole thing will end up with Trump even more popular than before.

Trump is already leading Biden by a huge margin in most of the opinion polls. So I don't really think that he needed any sympathy wave. But it did helped him. And for any other candidates like Haley and Michelle, I think the chances are too low. And the legal issues that Trump faced was most likely diversion tactics employed by the Democrats, to shift attention away from the border issue. The situation at Southern border is hurting Democrats really bad and I am quite surprised that they are still remaining deaf to that issue.

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Trump is already leading Biden by a huge margin in most of the opinion polls. So I don't really think that he needed any sympathy wave. But it did helped him. And for any other candidates like Haley and Michelle, I think the chances are too low. And the legal issues that Trump faced was most likely diversion tactics employed by the Democrats, to shift attention away from the border issue. The situation at Southern border is hurting Democrats really bad and I am quite surprised that they are still remaining deaf to that issue.

Yeah, I think Trump is going to be the next president of the USA.

I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing, but seems to be the most likely thing

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        -     Honestly, I have no idea what will happen in the election that is coming this summer in our country, the US. I'm just not sure if Trump will run again for the presidency. Will he run again to fight Biden again?

And in the event that the two of them compete again, he will lose, so this time Biden will lose. Because, as far as I know, it seems like there was a cheat on the number; I just don't know if it's true. Maybe the other gamblers will have a bet again in that matter of the election in the US.

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A potential Trump win becomes bigger and bigger possibility everyday. These days it is not really about who is a better politician when people are voting, to be fair neither are good politicians anyway. These days it matters a lot more when one of the candidates instil a degree of emotion with their voters to get them out and voting. Same thing happened in 2020, people didn't go out to vote for Biden, they went out to vote "not trump" option and that's how Biden won.

These days, Trump supporters are a lot more fired up and feeling excited, whereas Biden supporters (and there are no Biden supporters, just people who do not want trump) do not feel the same way anymore, they lost that fire. So Trump may end up winning.

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