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^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

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August 26, 2023, 07:29:13 AM
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^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

It is such a strange thing this election.

We have mugshots of a candidate for president of the US. I think Trump will end up being elected president while in jail.

There must be someone already preparing a movie about this, I'm sure.

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August 26, 2023, 07:42:42 AM
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It is such a strange thing this election.

We have mugshots of a candidate for president of the US. I think Trump will end up being elected president while in jail.

There must be someone already preparing a movie about this, I'm sure.

The idea is to prevent him from running. That is the message I get when I analyze the strategy from the Democrat party. And to be honest, I don't know how this will turn out. There is not enough opinion poll information to know whether Trump is going to benefit from all this drama or not. And as I have mentioned many times in the past, the POTUS election results are very dependent on what is going on in the swing states. So I want to know whether voters in swing states such as AZ, PA, GA and NV sympathize with Trump or not.

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Trump supporters are not a majority in the United States, but they are part of an important percentage within the Republican voting base. Hence, the reason Republican politicians going for the presidency try not to directly attack Trump. Not even Mike Pence who is one of the victims of the attack on the capitol.

It seems that bettors for now believe that the people of USA will repeat what we saw in the mid term elections, when those candidates picked by Trump and endorsed by him ended up losing.

Still the odds are so separate from each other, something unexpected can turn the situation in Trump's favor.

I'd say, it's possible, but the probability of that is low, and it becomes lower day after day. Look, it's lower today than it was when I made my last post.



Is it a tendency? Will we see something as 1.50 for Biden and like 5.00 for Trump? Will Trump supporters still be saying Trump's winning even then?

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August 26, 2023, 04:58:35 PM
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^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

I was not expecting to see Trump back in Twitter, to be honest. I must admit that the timing was genius on his part, he managed to catch much of the attention by himself posting his own mugshot. He is trying to turn something must of us would perceive as negative into a tool for his political career.
I have my doubts he will come back to Twitter as the old days before Jan 6, he has already compromised with Truth Social, though, after seeing such numbers and support from people who are wearing his mugshot as a shirt, he could feel tempted to become a regular Twitter user again.

It was one of the things which characterized his run for the presidency back in 2016, after all. It may be one of his ace in the hole.

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^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

I was not expecting to see Trump back in Twitter, to be honest. I must admit that the timing was genius on his part, he managed to catch much of the attention by himself posting his own mugshot. He is trying to turn something must of us would perceive as negative into a tool for his political career.
I have my doubts he will come back to Twitter as the old days before Jan 6, he has already compromised with Truth Social, though, after seeing such numbers and support from people who are wearing his mugshot as a shirt, he could feel tempted to become a regular Twitter user again.

It was one of the things which characterized his run for the presidency back in 2016, after all. It may be one of his ace in the hole.

Wow, this forum has given a lot to talk about , I really see it as very Normal even if it is Something that can scare someone, but at the same time it seems very funny to me because there are many who have made many messages with that , I don't know if this is another of his good tsetrageigas so that he can attract more people and more Followers , and thus Manage to Convince People that he is a good candidate and that they support him, but in truth the things that this man invents are very Innovative, however, seeing that this being is a very strong candidate, and obviously I have always said so, if Trump comes to have everything to be the presidential candidate, he will be very Competitive with any Opponent , not because of what he did, apart from the fact that he wants to dethrone Biden , because I know he must have an Internal "pique" that he wants to get rid of, in addition to the fact that many times he has attacked Biden too much for the way the country is leading, and also he criticizes him a lot because he has allowed the war Between Russia and Ukraine, so this type of thing is what he can carry out in Particular to base his candidacy, but when he is sure as a Presidential candidate, at this time his situation is very unstable, because We don't know if they are going to put him in jail or if he wants to do something else, some say that he wants to turn himself in, but a person like Trump who is going to turn himself in at this point , I don't think he will make that Decision , he also has many followers who Accompany him.

Now, it is difficult, because the people in the USA are very biased and I think this is something that should be studied by states, if he obtains the greatest acceptance in Florida, I think he could call himself president, but otherwise I think it would be a very controversial contest. strong, also people like they want him to face Biden again, some are so angry with Trump that they don't want to see him even in paint , but it all depends on how the country wants to see or have things, it all depends on Lop politicians who are going to do it to Trump.

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^^^^ 258 million views for the interview with Tucker Carlson. 1.5 million likes 216 million views for the mugshot tweet. Donald Trump for sure has some solid backing in social media platforms. I am not sure whether DeSantis and Ramaswamy (who I believe are the only other two candidates with even a remote chance of winning the GOP nomination) should continue with their presidential run, given the recent poll numbers and also looking at how Trump is completely dominating the GOP space. Shouldn't they try to get a VP spot this time?

I was not expecting to see Trump back in Twitter, to be honest. I must admit that the timing was genius on his part, he managed to catch much of the attention by himself posting his own mugshot. He is trying to turn something must of us would perceive as negative into a tool for his political career.
I have my doubts he will come back to Twitter as the old days before Jan 6, he has already compromised with Truth Social, though, after seeing such numbers and support from people who are wearing his mugshot as a shirt, he could feel tempted to become a regular Twitter user again.

It was one of the things which characterized his run for the presidency back in 2016, after all. It may be one of his ace in the hole.

After all, he is a successful businessman. He knows how to stay in limelight. It is very clear that his experiment with Truth Social had failed. Social media users are mostly young, and few of them have a solid political inclination. Trump was hoping that all of the conservative users may follow his lead and dump Twitter for Truth Social. But that never happened. Twitter users want a mix of different topics and not just Trump-related news. And those who joined Truth Social are mostly hardcore Trump supporters and there will be no net addition for GOP. In order to gain new support, it is essential for Trump to stay in neutral platforms like Twitter.

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It is true that Trump is a big name and he will definitely get a lot of views no matter what he does, he could start the whole apprentice or whatever show again and he would get a lot more views now then he ever did back in the day, because he used to be the president. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the candidate for the GOP, he could be in trouble right now with the law but that doesn't mean that it's going to be that easy to handle, we are talking about something bigger.

We should be realizing that it's not going to be that much available situation for me and I think it should be just too obvious to me. He will be the candidate and there is a good chance he will also lose again because of who he is, not who his opponent is.

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It is true that Trump is a big name and he will definitely get a lot of views no matter what he does, he could start the whole apprentice or whatever show again and he would get a lot more views now then he ever did back in the day, because he used to be the president. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the candidate for the GOP, he could be in trouble right now with the law but that doesn't mean that it's going to be that easy to handle, we are talking about something bigger.

We should be realizing that it's not going to be that much available situation for me and I think it should be just too obvious to me. He will be the candidate and there is a good chance he will also lose again because of who he is, not who his opponent is.

I find it really surprising that the Republicans keep holding on to Trump given all these lawsuits against him. It's true that it feels like a witch hunt right now and it could rally more of his followers to close the ranks and support him more. But the real question is how many of the swing candidates are being convinced to join the Republican or Democratic vote. In the case of Trump losing his lawsuits I think that it would lead to more people abandoning him than following him. For the Republican party it seems as abet on the lawsuits and hoping that Trump won't lose them. In the end all it would take is one bad selected Jury and the dream of Trump winning another election is over. For the Democrats it doesn't seem any better though, with Biden being so old all it takes is a few medical issues and he couldn't a second time. It's hard to place any serious bet right now on the next president, because so many things could happen that change the picture completely.

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It is true that Trump is a big name and he will definitely get a lot of views no matter what he does, he could start the whole apprentice or whatever show again and he would get a lot more views now then he ever did back in the day, because he used to be the president. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the candidate for the GOP, he could be in trouble right now with the law but that doesn't mean that it's going to be that easy to handle, we are talking about something bigger.

We should be realizing that it's not going to be that much available situation for me and I think it should be just too obvious to me. He will be the candidate and there is a good chance he will also lose again because of who he is, not who his opponent is.

I find it really surprising that the Republicans keep holding on to Trump given all these lawsuits against him. It's true that it feels like a witch hunt right now and it could rally more of his followers to close the ranks and support him more. But the real question is how many of the swing candidates are being convinced to join the Republican or Democratic vote. In the case of Trump losing his lawsuits I think that it would lead to more people abandoning him than following him. For the Republican party it seems as abet on the lawsuits and hoping that Trump won't lose them. In the end all it would take is one bad selected Jury and the dream of Trump winning another election is over. For the Democrats it doesn't seem any better though, with Biden being so old all it takes is a few medical issues and he couldn't a second time. It's hard to place any serious bet right now on the next president, because so many things could happen that change the picture completely.


Trump gained more supporters as he became the 4x champ of this indictment. Many of these supporters see these indictments as election intervention to stop him from running. Yep, they are paying attention for this is how badly they played the game. They wouldn't just leave Trump to win and be vindicated so they wanna put him in a cell.

But the man is just smarter and does have money to fight back. The polls are showing Trump winning and even DeSantis or Ramaswamy has no chance of stopping it.


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Joe Biden can't for real get 4 more years as a president of the United States? I am not so involved in American politics, but the old man can't even bicycle and speak proper, would it not be better for America to have someone else as a president? Is people voting for Biden just because they dislike Trump?

Maybe this time it will be a better option then both of them.
But if I did put my money they would be on Trump. I just cant see the Americans giving J Biden 4 more years...

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Republican primary debate was last night, you can familiarize yourself with the participants: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/who-are-the-candidates-in-the-first-gop-primary-debate

Some candidates are not even worth mentioning, the only major players were DeSantis, Ramaswamy, Pence, and Haley. Trump, obviously, was absent. Instead, he elected to do an "X" interview with Tucker Carlson here amassing over 200M impressions thus far: www.x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1694513603251241143

I consider the winner of a primary debate to be someone who increases their chance of being the nominee for that party, and as such there was actually no winner of this debate. Trump sits 30-40 points ahead of every candidate, and no particular candidate had a stellar performance that would lend himself or herself to taking the Republican nominee from Trump.

That being said, Ramaswamy stood out the most. He's charismatic and a good debater. He took the most attacks from other candidates and was able to respond efficiently. DeSantis, despite not being attacked, came out rather flat with many rehearsed lines. His conservative record is impressive, but he isn't a great politician. I see Ramaswamy surging slightly in the odds eating away at DeSantis's lead.
You have faith in Ramaswamy? I will concede that the fellow has panache. However, charisma only goes so far. You require more than a dazzling smile and a few humorous rejoinders. What about DeSantis? If you ask me, De-Yawn-tis is a more apt term. And Trump's absence was comparable to holding the World Series without the defending champions. His absence did not diminish his presence! The interview with Tucker? Brilliant move, worthy of a kingpin's ability to attract attention Trump is still the heavyweight champion in this situation. The rest? Just fighting for scraps at his table

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August 27, 2023, 03:56:01 PM
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In order to gain new support, it is essential for Trump to stay in neutral platforms like Twitter.

It depends whom you ask whether Trump is a successful businessman or not, I have seen people around internet saying that he has lost much of the fortune he inherited from his father and the only good thing he has left is real state. Anyways, it does not matter much in this context, because the marketing/political move he has done with his own mugshot seems to have already given him some millions of dollars, which is much more than the bond he was set to pay at court this week, so he can continue to roam around the country.



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US former President Donald Trump's election campaign has raised some $20 million (approximately €18.5 million) in roughly the time since his indictment in federal and state cases connected to false claims on the 2020 election.

Of the sum, $7.1 million have been collected since Thursday alone, when Trump had his mug shot taken in a fraud case in Atlanta, Georgia, his spokesman Steven Cheung said on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

Source: https://www.dw.com/en/us-trump-campaign-raises-over-7-million-since-mug-shot/a-66640224

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I find it really surprising that the Republicans keep holding on to Trump given all these lawsuits against him. It's true that it feels like a witch hunt right now and it could rally more of his followers to close the ranks and support him more. But the real question is how many of the swing candidates are being convinced to join the Republican or Democratic vote. In the case of Trump losing his lawsuits I think that it would lead to more people abandoning him than following him. For the Republican party it seems as abet on the lawsuits and hoping that Trump won't lose them. In the end all it would take is one bad selected Jury and the dream of Trump winning another election is over. For the Democrats it doesn't seem any better though, with Biden being so old all it takes is a few medical issues and he couldn't a second time. It's hard to place any serious bet right now on the next president, because so many things could happen that change the picture completely.
They lack leadership, that's the problem. Think of Republicans like a cult, they do not care about "who" at the top could be, they do not have ideology (do not talk to me about family values, they elected a president who paid a pornstar a silence money from campaign money and stole nuclear information of his own nation) they have nothing but a cult system who worship whoever is at the top.

It doesn't have to be Trump, tomorrow it could be someone else and they will worship that, the idea is "whoever is not democrat, is a god" and they keep voting for the person who is the republican candidate no matter how terrible that person can be, you can put in OJ Simpson as the Republican candidate and he will get 60+ million votes just because he is the republican candidate.

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It is true that Trump is a big name and he will definitely get a lot of views no matter what he does, he could start the whole apprentice or whatever show again and he would get a lot more views now then he ever did back in the day, because he used to be the president. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that he is the candidate for the GOP, he could be in trouble right now with the law but that doesn't mean that it's going to be that easy to handle, we are talking about something bigger.

We should be realizing that it's not going to be that much available situation for me and I think it should be just too obvious to me. He will be the candidate and there is a good chance he will also lose again because of who he is, not who his opponent is.

I find it really surprising that the Republicans keep holding on to Trump given all these lawsuits against him. It's true that it feels like a witch hunt right now and it could rally more of his followers to close the ranks and support him more. But the real question is how many of the swing candidates are being convinced to join the Republican or Democratic vote. In the case of Trump losing his lawsuits I think that it would lead to more people abandoning him than following him. For the Republican party it seems as abet on the lawsuits and hoping that Trump won't lose them. In the end all it would take is one bad selected Jury and the dream of Trump winning another election is over. For the Democrats it doesn't seem any better though, with Biden being so old all it takes is a few medical issues and he couldn't a second time. It's hard to place any serious bet right now on the next president, because so many things could happen that change the picture completely.


Trump gained more supporters as he became the 4x champ of this indictment. Many of these supporters see these indictments as election intervention to stop him from running. Yep, they are paying attention for this is how badly they played the game. They wouldn't just leave Trump to win and be vindicated so they wanna put him in a cell.

But the man is just smarter and does have money to fight back. The polls are showing Trump winning and even DeSantis or Ramaswamy has no chance of stopping it.


Trump and "smarter" is something I don't think I can say that I've thought very often.  The truth is it absolutely does not matter what Trump does, his strongest supporters will back him up no matter what he says or does, legal or illegal.  It's sad really, the fact that we've come to this as a country, that we allow these criminal politicians to basically do whatever they want.  He wouldn't have been arrested if he didn't do anything wrong, let along arrested 4 times. 

I am of the opinion all politicians are lying scumbags, left and right.  Trump is no exception.

The polls may show Trump winning the Republican nomination, but it's not like his competition is anyting great.  That's the problem for the Republican and Democratic parties, they have no spine...it's all about who's got the best change to win, not who's the best person for the job. 

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August 27, 2023, 09:15:14 PM
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It will be funny as hell if a suspect in a criminal trial and possibly a serving prisoner in detention wins both the nomination and eventual presidency.  You couldn't make that up, this is peak memes no other section of history has been this ridiculous surely or not that we remember, maybe the Roman empire from some things I have read.
  More important then the story headlines is that there is talk of excluding Trump from being able to run, disqualifying him via the 14th amendment if I remember rightly.   I think thats basically incorrect because its not yet a conviction.    I dont even think he ever goes to jail even if convicted, essentially he never did enough from my view point but in any case regardless they are far more likely to send him to house arrest as has happened in France with their former president over corruption charges I believe.
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Thats alot of traffic, I wasnt thinking there are even that many active voters.  Often the turn out rate is quite poor in many countries, we discuss negatives in many ways but ironically all these headlines make for involvement of a larger section of society probably.   Democratically you want as many people to vote as possibly, who would have guessed it would be at the same time the entire process is called into question for its validity.     I think the numbers being high means we have no shortage of places offering odds for all candidates.
   The other point I wanted to make is to exclude anyone as a valid choice at this point seems incorrect.  Obama and Trump share the burden of being nobody candidates, neither was especially long term valid in their lead up to being elected.   Traditional politics and the path taken to power is well laid down and in these last few decades been upset to the point anyone can win, thats my conclusion.

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The big question was whether Trump would benefit from the conviction drama or not. And I guess we have the definite answer by now. An array of opinion pollsters are now showing Donald Trump with a big lead over Joe Biden in nation-wide polling. The one from Emerson puts Trump at 46%, compared to 44% for Biden, while the poll from New York Post has Trump ahead by 3 points (Biden-41%, Trump-44%). Biden had a comfortable lead two weeks ago, but the situation has now reversed. Still, it would be premature to reach a conclusion. We need to wait for a few more weeks to see whether the poll numbers stay the same.

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The big question was whether Trump would benefit from the conviction drama or not. And I guess we have the definite answer by now. An array of opinion pollsters are now showing Donald Trump with a big lead over Joe Biden in nation-wide polling. The one from Emerson puts Trump at 46%, compared to 44% for Biden, while the poll from New York Post has Trump ahead by 3 points (Biden-41%, Trump-44%). Biden had a comfortable lead two weeks ago, but the situation has now reversed. Still, it would be premature to reach a conclusion. We need to wait for a few more weeks to see whether the poll numbers stay the same.

There is one trend that is being popular in my country and that is that overseas Pakistanis in the US will NOT be voting for Joe Biden and the reason is that he is the one who was responsible for regime change in our country without the will of the Public of Pakistan.

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OVERSEAS PAKISTANI’S Breaking News :

All Pakistani American citizens have ENBLOC made a declaration they do NOT intend voting for Biden or the Democrats because of their interference to REMOVE Imran Khan from the Prime Minister’s post.
However they will vote ENBLOC for the American Republicans if they promise to bring back Imran Khan to power as the Prime Minister of Pakistan 🇵🇰

The Pakistani Americans have categorically told American politicians who ever will support Corrupt Pakistani Army Generals & Tyrant Corrupt PML-N & PPP they will NOT get votes from them.

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The big question was whether Trump would benefit from the conviction drama or not. And I guess we have the definite answer by now. An array of opinion pollsters are now showing Donald Trump with a big lead over Joe Biden in nation-wide polling. The one from Emerson puts Trump at 46%, compared to 44% for Biden, while the poll from New York Post has Trump ahead by 3 points (Biden-41%, Trump-44%). Biden had a comfortable lead two weeks ago, but the situation has now reversed. Still, it would be premature to reach a conclusion. We need to wait for a few more weeks to see whether the poll numbers stay the same.

There is one trend that is being popular in my country and that is that overseas Pakistanis in the US will NOT be voting for Joe Biden and the reason is that he is the one who was responsible for regime change in our country without the will of the Public of Pakistan.

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OVERSEAS PAKISTANI’S Breaking News :

All Pakistani American citizens have ENBLOC made a declaration they do NOT intend voting for Biden or the Democrats because of their interference to REMOVE Imran Khan from the Prime Minister’s post.
However they will vote ENBLOC for the American Republicans if they promise to bring back Imran Khan to power as the Prime Minister of Pakistan 🇵🇰

The Pakistani Americans have categorically told American politicians who ever will support Corrupt Pakistani Army Generals & Tyrant Corrupt PML-N & PPP they will NOT get votes from them.

Hats off and salutes to Pakistani Americans 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


I do not know how much it will influence the result of this US election but still, if anyone is betting on the election, he can take this factor into account as well.

Although overseas citizens have voting right but mainly it is the vote of the US citizens who can make or break any presidential candidate win or lose in the elections. I do not think that such a small community can have any significant impact on the elections.

To be frank, right now it is hard for to guess who will win this 2024 elections. The Biden government have increases interest rates throughout the last few months which have help to fight against the inflation and this act of him may benefit him to get more votes as compared to the other candidates.

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I do not know how much it will influence the result of this US election but still, if anyone is betting on the election, he can take this factor into account as well.

Biden administration has progressively brought back the policy of forced regime change in third world nations, something that was abandoned during the Trump regime (2016-20). And they have intervened not just in Pakistan, but also in several other countries. That said, I am not sure whether the protest by Americans of Pakistani origin will have any impact. As far as I know, there are sections of people who are in favor of the Imran Khan regime, however there are also sizable numbers who favor the current regime (headed by Shehbaz Sharif of the PML-N).

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