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June 29, 2023, 05:57:58 PM
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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

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June 29, 2023, 09:20:16 PM
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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

If a rematch between those two actually happen, then I am afraid it won't be an election to choose the best person for the charge of the presidency of the United States, but rather to choose the lesser evil.

I personally think that Biden's health won't have any influence on the results of the election, mostly because it seems that there is no serious democrat who is willing to challenge Biden in the primaries and even if there was, none of them would dare to talk about Biden's health, for democrats that is rather a taboo.

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June 29, 2023, 09:49:31 PM
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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

If a rematch between those two actually happen, then I am afraid it won't be an election to choose the best person for the charge of the presidency of the United States, but rather to choose the lesser evil.

I personally think that Biden's health won't have any influence on the results of the election, mostly because it seems that there is no serious democrat who is willing to challenge Biden in the primaries and even if there was, none of them would dare to talk about Biden's health, for democrats that is rather a taboo.

I've been trying to figure out if I want to be this election, but there's so much unknown now that I'm starting think I'm not going to risk my money.  I thought for sure that Hilary Clinton was going to beat Trump and look how that turned out.  So, it's sadly going to be a re-match but no clue how it's going to go.  The one thing I do know, and agree with you on, it's a lesser of two evils. Sadly

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June 30, 2023, 02:50:20 AM
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It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

I am not sure whether health of either candidates (let's not forget the fact that Trump is 77 years old and this is no longer 2016) will be a deciding factor during the 2024 POTUS elections. A lot has been discussed on this regard, but Democrat voters simply don't mind whether Biden is in good health or not. Most of those who make noise on this issue are Republican voters. There is always a chance that Biden will be replaced by someone like Kamala Harris after a year or two during the second term (in case he gets elected). Getting Harris directly elected during 2024 will be next to impossible, given her radical views and lack of popularity among the moderate voters.

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June 30, 2023, 03:30:52 AM
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If a rematch between those two actually happen, then I am afraid it won't be an election to choose the best person for the charge of the presidency of the United States, but rather to choose the lesser evil.

This happens in many elections.

I personally think that Biden's health won't have any influence on the results of the election, mostly because it seems that there is no serious democrat who is willing to challenge Biden in the primaries and even if there was, none of them would dare to talk about Biden's health, for democrats that is rather a taboo.

I think it's a bit pathetic. Surely there are no better candidates in the US than those two? It just goes to show that it's not necessarily the best who get to run for president, but the ones with the most influence.

Biden has shown signs of cognitive problems and as time goes on he is not going to get any better. Trump at the moment does not seem to have cognitive problems but he will be 78 years old by the time he is elected president again. Ronald Reagan made a joke about his opponent's youth when his opponent questioned his age, because at the time he was the oldest president in US history and these two are older than he is now.

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I think it's a bit pathetic. Surely there are no better candidates in the US than those two? It just goes to show that it's not necessarily the best who get to run for president, but the ones with the most influence.


LOL.. sadly that is the state of affairs in US politics right now. For both the mainstream parties, there is no acceptable choice for nomination apart from these two old men. Trump is far ahead of DeSantis within Republican Party, despite all the drama surrounding conviction. On the other hand, Democrat Party believes that Joe Biden is the only candidate who will be able to win the moderate votes (despite his poor health). The other choice they have (Robert Kennedy Jr) is not acceptable to the establishment wing of the party. 

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The result of all this mess are going on in front of us, in real time.
It seems at the point that Trump won't get away with these crimes, however, only time would tell. The fact he is the front runner of this incoming election is surreal for the democratic standards of a country like the United States, in my opinion.

Also, the audio does not matter much to his followers, since the beginning they have been convinced Trump has absolute right to hold onto those papers.
Yeah, I've talked with some people and they are starting to suggest that it was AI generated  Grin

It would be wild if the next president of the US is elected from jail. Can that actually happen?, as in does this case has a potential outcome of jail?, and if so, can a president be elected from jail? I think you can't even vote if convicted...
Not in this case. I mean there "could" be some crimes where you are prisoned and maybe you can get nominated and elected, I do not know which crimes would be small enough that you would have to be in prison but still would be allowed to run. But in this case it's about him being jailed and prisoned eventually related to him being a president. The crime is literally "stealing government documents from the white house including nuclear weapon information", just consider for a second how big of a deal we are talking about.

Anyone who thinks that he didn't do it, or AI generated, or he had the right, all those people should be jailed for treason because this is no joke, this isn't small matter. A former USA president stole nuclear information to potentially sell to another nation for money.... That's as big as it gets.

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If a rematch between those two actually happen, then I am afraid it won't be an election to choose the best person for the charge of the presidency of the United States, but rather to choose the lesser evil.

This happens in many elections.

I personally think that Biden's health won't have any influence on the results of the election, mostly because it seems that there is no serious democrat who is willing to challenge Biden in the primaries and even if there was, none of them would dare to talk about Biden's health, for democrats that is rather a taboo.

I think it's a bit pathetic. Surely there are no better candidates in the US than those two? It just goes to show that it's not necessarily the best who get to run for president, but the ones with the most influence.

Biden has shown signs of cognitive problems and as time goes on he is not going to get any better. Trump at the moment does not seem to have cognitive problems but he will be 78 years old by the time he is elected president again. Ronald Reagan made a joke about his opponent's youth when his opponent questioned his age, because at the time he was the oldest president in US history and these two are older than he is now.

Sadly, it seems that in the United States, not the best candidates are those who get the votes. I am not an expert but I would bet that there are better people (even in congress and the house of representatives) who would do a better job than any of those two have done.

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Who will be the candidates anyway? I don't trust both party but one will win eventually. Good presidents do their second terms, like Obama, and bad presidents can't do, like Trump. I don't think Biden fit in both categories. He wasn't bad but he's too old to re-elect, I don't even think he will be a candidate again. I have to see DP's candidates first.

It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

If a rematch between those two actually happen, then I am afraid it won't be an election to choose the best person for the charge of the presidency of the United States, but rather to choose the lesser evil.

I personally think that Biden's health won't have any influence on the results of the election, mostly because it seems that there is no serious democrat who is willing to challenge Biden in the primaries and even if there was, none of them would dare to talk about Biden's health, for democrats that is rather a taboo.

I've been trying to figure out if I want to be this election, but there's so much unknown now that I'm starting think I'm not going to risk my money.  I thought for sure that Hilary Clinton was going to beat Trump and look how that turned out.  So, it's sadly going to be a re-match but no clue how it's going to go.  The one thing I do know, and agree with you on, it's a lesser of two evils. Sadly

Hillary did not have much of a chance, I think. Even if she was a better option than she was back then, traditionally there is a lot of people who would not choose a woman to be the president of USA. Sexism and stereotypes are real, very real.

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LOL.. sadly that is the state of affairs in US politics right now. For both the mainstream parties, there is no acceptable choice for nomination apart from these two old men. Trump is far ahead of DeSantis within Republican Party, despite all the drama surrounding conviction. On the other hand, Democrat Party believes that Joe Biden is the only candidate who will be able to win the moderate votes (despite his poor health). The other choice they have (Robert Kennedy Jr) is not acceptable to the establishment wing of the party. 
How terrible it is isn't it? I mean Trump vs Biden, even the most notorious Democrat must realize that they should be putting front a better candidate than Biden, and even the most hardcore Republican should realize they should be nominating someone who is not on trial for stealing sensitive documents related to nuclear weapons USA has.

And yet these are the two people they are going to show. I wonder who the next ones will be, I know whoever wins, the other one will not be the candidate after this time, so it is going to be a tough one to see who will be the next one. DeSantis is trying his best, but he is not a star politician, he doesn't have that type of fame, none I can think of from DNC at all as well. That's going to be important thing for the future of the nation.

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LOL.. sadly that is the state of affairs in US politics right now. For both the mainstream parties, there is no acceptable choice for nomination apart from these two old men. Trump is far ahead of DeSantis within Republican Party, despite all the drama surrounding conviction. On the other hand, Democrat Party believes that Joe Biden is the only candidate who will be able to win the moderate votes (despite his poor health). The other choice they have (Robert Kennedy Jr) is not acceptable to the establishment wing of the party. 
How terrible it is isn't it? I mean Trump vs Biden, even the most notorious Democrat must realize that they should be putting front a better candidate than Biden, and even the most hardcore Republican should realize they should be nominating someone who is not on trial for stealing sensitive documents related to nuclear weapons USA has.

And yet these are the two people they are going to show. I wonder who the next ones will be, I know whoever wins, the other one will not be the candidate after this time, so it is going to be a tough one to see who will be the next one. DeSantis is trying his best, but he is not a star politician, he doesn't have that type of fame, none I can think of from DNC at all as well. That's going to be important thing for the future of the nation.

It's something to weigh in on which of the two that will make the country perform well not just in economics but in military dominance. Trump doesn't have the craving for wars while Biden despite the poor mental condition, all he needs to do is to nod and it's good to go.

Biden has the advantage in every, even if he just admits to selling State secrets in front of leaders, his mental health will save him from prosecution. Trump will be indicted and trainwrecked every time.


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LOL.. sadly that is the state of affairs in US politics right now. For both the mainstream parties, there is no acceptable choice for nomination apart from these two old men. Trump is far ahead of DeSantis within Republican Party, despite all the drama surrounding conviction. On the other hand, Democrat Party believes that Joe Biden is the only candidate who will be able to win the moderate votes (despite his poor health). The other choice they have (Robert Kennedy Jr) is not acceptable to the establishment wing of the party. 
How terrible it is isn't it? I mean Trump vs Biden, even the most notorious Democrat must realize that they should be putting front a better candidate than Biden, and even the most hardcore Republican should realize they should be nominating someone who is not on trial for stealing sensitive documents related to nuclear weapons USA has.

And yet these are the two people they are going to show. I wonder who the next ones will be, I know whoever wins, the other one will not be the candidate after this time, so it is going to be a tough one to see who will be the next one. DeSantis is trying his best, but he is not a star politician, he doesn't have that type of fame, none I can think of from DNC at all as well. That's going to be important thing for the future of the nation.

    -  I'm not that familiar with the US because I'm not a resident there. Why is it possible in the U.S. that even if you have been president before that, you can also run for president again? Here in our country, once you become president, you cannot run for that position again, you can run for another position.

Maybe in their next election it's good that they try to install someone else, because from what I see, I don't see anything good that this biden is doing in the country he is leading so far.

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What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.

From what I see, Biden is still strong despite all the dirt spread about him by his detractors.



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It seems that in the next election, Biden will again face Trump and this will again be a fairly hot election, considering that these two pairs are people full of controversy. It will be quite difficult to choose who will win, whether Biden or Trump, but considering Biden's declining health, this will be a good chance for Trump to regain his position and remove Biden from his position as president.

I am not sure whether health of either candidates (let's not forget the fact that Trump is 77 years old and this is no longer 2016) will be a deciding factor during the 2024 POTUS elections.

They don't use health or age barrier because if these have been effective, there could have been many of them who wouldn't be qualified for such race base on their age or health status, as regarding the health, let's lay more emphasis on it this way, if any of the candidates have an health impairment, they will not publicly announce such because they believe it will be an hindrance towards thier ambition, they had prefer to go silent about it untill they arrived the position after winining election, we can gamble and stake on any of them in this regards.
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What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.

From what I see, Biden is still strong despite all the dirt spread about him by his detractors.



Not exactly the odds I would place a bet with, because I don't want to risk big money, and with a bet of like $5-$6 it won't deliver much in the case of winning. But I'm sure there are some high rollers who find the odds attractive enough to place a bet.

I do not even know why Michelle Obama is an option there, as far as I know she has not announced her run for president and even if she had intentions to run, it seems that within the democrat party there is already an agreement on Joe being the main option to face whoever gets elected on the Republican side...

The odds look good enough, imo, though.

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who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections?
, do you have free flight and provision of international passport with free ticket, if yes we are here to witness the election and come back to Nigeria.
Trump might win this election if he is still coming as rumour carried. Joe Biden is not strong enough to pilot the country affairs. He even fell down last week when he was in the gathering with other dignitaries. And the security men raised him up. US needs a very vibrate president in the country to do well for the citizens and the world at large. My speculation goes to Trump.

Should we make the comparison between the Trump administration with the Biden current tenure and his own administration, there will be a lot to discuss about because there are enough vast major difference in them both, what i will only advise is for Biden not to let the same mistake Trump did that made him victorious over Trump repeated itself on him to allow Trump win over him, there may be consideration on other candidates as well if the two of them aren't going to be the perfect representative to fit in the race and position of the United States president.
I follow something, if Trump Manages to pass all these Obstacles that the Democrats are putting on them, obviously he will be the president, it is that I have no doubt, the Democrats themselves are burying their way of doing things, because the more they Attack Trump has more power over people , because they see that he is fighting against an oppressive system,  so I would not hesitate to put enough money in a possible bet where I surely Know that I will emerge Victorious, I do not know very well the movement of the USA in Politics , but the way things are going, I think that Trump is being used here to make things go wrong for him , and since politics is that dirty, the average American knows that he will support Trump, his policies will not be the best, but I think they can offer More peace of mind to their National Sovereignty.

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What I think it is happening is that bettors realize there is a silent majority who does not attend to neither leftist events nor MAGA gatherings, the so called moderated voters, they are more pragmatic and do not go along with whatever of the things Trump says, political related or in relation to the charges he is facing.

That is why Republican candidates in the mid terms under performed, on the news you only see fanatics but those who stay calm in their homes also vote and they do it in a more rational manner, there is where the Biden's changes of winning come from, from normal people who may not agree on several policies of Biden but approve his economical advances.

From what I see, Biden is still strong despite all the dirt spread about him by his detractors.



Not exactly the odds I would place a bet with, because I don't want to risk big money, and with a bet of like $5-$6 it won't deliver much in the case of winning. But I'm sure there are some high rollers who find the odds attractive enough to place a bet.

I do not even know why Michelle Obama is an option there, as far as I know she has not announced her run for president and even if she had intentions to run, it seems that within the democrat party there is already an agreement on Joe being the main option to face whoever gets elected on the Republican side...

The odds look good enough, imo, though.

It's all a bit doubtful, because Michelle Obama has been there in a very stealthy way, I don't know, maybe she still has a chance to launch herself? There are certain protocols of the laws for politicians in the USA that I am not aware of, but from what I see from these statistics is that they are very well accepted, as for Biden, it does not seem to me that he has done badly, he has many followers, but there are certain things that the common American has not liked his policies very much, especially those related to migration, he has allowed many foreigners to enter, especially our countrymen, but it is not a bad thing, however, the American is very jealous of his country and in order to offer its benefits to people.

At the moment that Trump can win, I think he could turn the pee upside down, everything that Biden has done will turn it around, he will Change all immigration policy, and as for the election , I am not sure that Michelle Obama can come into play, but it would be Interesting that he could do it, also I can't imagine the USA under the presidential leadership of a woman, Hilary Clinton was about to achieve it, and if Trump manages to get away with all the accusations that have been made against him, surely he will find some fault with him to Michelle just as she did with Hilary , this politics thing has to be very careful , many things can be uncovered in a very ugly way.

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July 03, 2023, 06:14:29 PM
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They are just collecting  peoples money putting in Obama like that, its not really valid as a bet and would be a greater long shot then the run up to Trumps first win.   When has that person ever indicated they would not support Biden, the odds of 360 to 1 or more are the level it should be at.
   Kennedy maybe, not likely but we can argue about it perhaps depending on his next speech and how its received by the public.   Santis is the outside bet and I dont like the Trump bet again the odds are too low.

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I do not even know why Michelle Obama is an option there, as far as I know she has not announced her run for president and even if she had intentions to run, it seems that within the democrat party there is already an agreement on Joe being the main option to face whoever gets elected on the Republican side...

The odds look good enough, imo, though.

LOL... Michelle Obama is there because the sportsbooks need at least 4-5 options for the Democrat nominee. At this point, apart from Biden and Kennedy, they don't have any other options. Same with the GOP as well. Apart from Trump and DeSantis, there are no other viable alternatives. The primary elections for both the parties are going to be quite boring this time. Everything is predictable and if there are no surprises then it is going to be Trump vs Biden in 2024. And given this, the turnout for the 2024 presidential elections would be very low.

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I do not even know why Michelle Obama is an option there, as far as I know she has not announced her run for president and even if she had intentions to run, it seems that within the democrat party there is already an agreement on Joe being the main option to face whoever gets elected on the Republican side...

The odds look good enough, imo, though.

LOL... Michelle Obama is there because the sportsbooks need at least 4-5 options for the Democrat nominee. At this point, apart from Biden and Kennedy, they don't have any other options. Same with the GOP as well. Apart from Trump and DeSantis, there are no other viable alternatives. The primary elections for both the parties are going to be quite boring this time. Everything is predictable and if there are no surprises then it is going to be Trump vs Biden in 2024. And given this, the turnout for the 2024 presidential elections would be very low.

At least those Republican candidates made clear they are officially running, though. It does not make much sense to me to include candidates which are not even running while there are Republican candidates running officially. Even if they do not stand a chance against Trump.

I don't know who in their right mind would dare to put money on the table for someone who is not running and it is also unlikely to run.
What I am trying to say is that I would not mind to see more Republicans as an option to bet on.

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At least those Republican candidates made clear they are officially running, though. It does not make much sense to me to include candidates which are not even running while there are Republican candidates running officially. Even if they do not stand a chance against Trump.

I don't know who in their right mind would dare to put money on the table for someone who is not running and it is also unlikely to run.
What I am trying to say is that I would not mind to see more Republicans as an option to bet on.

I don't think that a lot of people are going to make bets on someone like Michelle Obama. But there will be a few, who explore remote possibilities. POTUS 2024 elections are still more than a year away. Given the health of the two main candidates, there is always a chance of some surprise occurring before the elections. And then we have the Trump conviction drama going on with Hunter Biden laptopgate in the background. The returns are too attractive for high-risk takers to ignore such bets. If I am not wrong, Michelle Obama is being given odds ranging from 36.0 to 96.0.

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I don't think that a lot of people are going to make bets on someone like Michelle Obama. But there will be a few, who explore remote possibilities. POTUS 2024 elections are still more than a year away. Given the health of the two main candidates, there is always a chance of some surprise occurring before the elections. And then we have the Trump conviction drama going on with Hunter Biden laptopgate in the background. The returns are too attractive for high-risk takers to ignore such bets. If I am not wrong, Michelle Obama is being given odds ranging from 36.0 to 96.0.

This US presidential election nowadays is unpredictable and the survey will likely give us a preview of what would it be when the real election begins. I don't know if the majority of Americans made the right decision when they put Biden in power but as we have seen today, he hasn't done anything new or improved their nation's crime rate since he was the president this past few years. Now that the next election is close, they surely need to choose the right one that can really make some improvements and peace so that we won't gonna trigger another senseless war with other nations.

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