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May 18, 2023, 01:05:13 AM
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same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

The majority of people never use the casino in its demo version, it is uncurrent, when you enter a casino the adrenaline does everything, it is known that if it earns with fictional money it is something disappointing, I have had very little with the demo versions,But it is not what we are looking for, because what we are looking for is more fun and we always want the best and if it is to win at once it is much better, because the emotion is also in retreat and that everything flows in the best way, without However, I think that demo versions is for us to realize the risk we are taking when we have little money and risk it will always be difficult.

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May 18, 2023, 04:08:17 PM
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It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?
Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

Use of demo account is not the real gambling, but a learning ground to those that are beginners to learn about gambling for themselves, you may not need money to use in doing this because everything had already been set and orogrmmed on a learning platform to make use of their functions, they are not paid services and not the real gambling, but there you play, earn, win and loose which are the primary expectations you come across in real life gambling
Gambling with a demo account is never possible to understand the fun of gambling. Because the joy of victory and defeat of the gambling is not possible to mean it. But yes, only a gambler can learn how to play it. Where there is no fear of losing money, that can never be gambling. The main condition of gambling is where to get something in exchange for money or anything else, there will be the possibility of losing or financially damaged.

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May 18, 2023, 05:57:07 PM
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Gambling with a demo account is never possible to understand the fun of gambling. Because the joy of victory and defeat of the gambling is not possible to mean it. But yes, only a gambler can learn how to play it.

Because playing in demo games is not gambling.  It is just pure gaming so, a person can really get the fun of gambling because there is no gambling activity there.

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Where there is no fear of losing money, that can never be gambling.

I disagree, you may not fear to lose money but if you are staking it for the purpose of getting rewards, that is still gambling.  A game can only be called not gambling if a person does not stake anything.  After all the core essence of gambling is stake, risk and reward.

The main condition of gambling is where to get something in exchange for money or anything else, there will be the possibility of losing or financially damaged.

True that, as I stated, there should be a stake or bet, the risk, and the reward.  In most gambling there is always two possibilities, losing and winning, though you can get even from time to time.

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May 18, 2023, 11:52:17 PM
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It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?
Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

Use of demo account is not the real gambling, but a learning ground to those that are beginners to learn about gambling for themselves, you may not need money to use in doing this because everything had already been set and orogrmmed on a learning platform to make use of their functions, they are not paid services and not the real gambling, but there you play, earn, win and loose which are the primary expectations you come across in real life gambling
Gambling with a demo account is never possible to understand the fun of gambling. Because the joy of victory and defeat of the gambling is not possible to mean it. But yes, only a gambler can learn how to play it. Where there is no fear of losing money, that can never be gambling. The main condition of gambling is where to get something in exchange for money or anything else, there will be the possibility of losing or financially damaged.
There's no fun into it because you know that you cant lose something or win anything when you do make out some demo game but on the time that you would really be testing out some strategies
then i could say that it would really be that significant on doing such thing but only a few on whose that serious would be having this kind of taking on which they would really be testing out various
strategies which they do believe that it could work on the game that they are dealing with or playing. Speaking about without money kind of gambling is never been a gambling because you arent
really that risking something to get something which it would be understandable that there's no risks involved and if you do really have this kind of set up on where no money is involved
then its a risk free thing. Its not gambling at all. We do know the basic concepts on what is gambling in the first place.Thrill and excitement wont be there if you arent risking on something.

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May 18, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.

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May 20, 2023, 06:03:40 AM
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but what about OP's topic is a total free from betting but there is possibilities to win and that is what it stands . according to  internet it is about

Advice to consider if you’re gambling

Set a money limit in advance, and stick to it Before you begin playing, decide what you can afford to spend and commit to it. ...

Walk away from your losses ...
Treat gambling as an expense ...

Set a time limit in advance ...

Notice your feelings ...

Keep other activities in the mix ...

Take lots of breaks ...


this is what says in this link : https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&sc=10-25&sk=&cvid=B246D4E2A44C4F6280B7763B3251A4D1&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=

with all of those , I think what ask above is different from being a gambler?and besides what is gambling if you don't need to put a bet, yeah you are wasting time and chances but yet there are still no money from your end.









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May 20, 2023, 08:29:15 AM
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It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?
Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.

Use of demo account is not the real gambling, but a learning ground to those that are beginners to learn about gambling for themselves, you may not need money to use in doing this because everything had already been set and orogrmmed on a learning platform to make use of their functions, they are not paid services and not the real gambling, but there you play, earn, win and loose which are the primary expectations you come across in real life gambling
Gambling with a demo account is never possible to understand the fun of gambling. Because the joy of victory and defeat of the gambling is not possible to mean it. But yes, only a gambler can learn how to play it. Where there is no fear of losing money, that can never be gambling. The main condition of gambling is where to get something in exchange for money or anything else, there will be the possibility of losing or financially damaged.
For me something that is risked without using real money like a demo account is not considered gambling because it is just a game and almost all parts of the country allow this kind of game because it is not one of gambling with real money.
It would be a different meaning if after using the demo account he switches to gambling using real money.
Because indirectly a demo account can trigger someone to gamble using real money.
There are also betting games on the Playstore that don't require money but in fact chips can be sold to everyone and this can only be called gambling.

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May 20, 2023, 08:41:03 AM
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Yes, even though using fake money on a demo account can also be said to be gambling in the training stage, because using something in the form of value at stake even though it has no value is still said to be gambling, all people's views are different, so some will say this is not gambling and some say this is still called gambling.

Whatever form it takes, whatever type of asset or object is at stake, it is still said to be gambling because you don't always have to use money to gamble because it can be in any form and has value.

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May 20, 2023, 08:53:40 AM
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Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

My site does not open either through a regular network or via VPN. Probably it is blocked or simply unavailable.
If im don't need to bet money there, but i can win, then what is the point for the creators of this service? I think there are very small winnings, like a couple of dollars, or we understand something wrong. A strange idea.

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May 22, 2023, 10:04:39 AM
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That's for sure!  This is true! 
If a player does not lose money or something valuable to him in the process of losing in such a game, then this makes his behavior in the game completely different from what it would be if he lost something valuable to him.
 And such a game begins to resemble just a performance, a performance with clowns who do completely absurd things.  It may be funny, of course, and may even amuse the people watching the game, but it's not a real game.  And the emotions from such a fake game are also different.  Although in general it can be quite fun and funny.  But still, the lack of responsibility in making decisions in a game without money turns the game itself into simple entertainment with completely different emotions. 
All this is good for the games of young children and probably even useful for their overall development. 
But when adults do it, it looks rather strange.
And it is awful to play such games when you used to bet your money. You`re waiting some responsibility from the opponent, but he doesn`t risk anything and he doesn`t matter to raise or to drop(for example).
You can just learn some rules if you starts new game, but all the strategy, all steps totally differs with free bet games. After such training you have to study again with serious bets and it may be even $1, doesn`t matter - it means that someone`s risks and take a responsibility for it.

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May 22, 2023, 10:42:11 AM
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same as my view because i cant expect myself using all the time i am supposed to gamble for real money in playing in some online free games, it's not possible and if I have much time I will rather spend it gambling for real money because even while we playing for fun, we still have to add money to it to make it more motivating on the long run.

Those that could gamble with demo accounts are the computer gaming freaks and newbies who are looking for ways to familiarise themselves with the casino and its features but aside from that, one will need to gamble staking real money to get the right motivation and drive to play those games.

The majority of people never use the casino in its demo version, it is uncurrent, when you enter a casino the adrenaline does everything, it is known that if it earns with fictional money it is something disappointing, I have had very little with the demo versions,But it is not what we are looking for, because what we are looking for is more fun and we always want the best and if it is to win at once it is much better, because the emotion is also in retreat and that everything flows in the best way, without However, I think that demo versions is for us to realize the risk we are taking when we have little money and risk it will always be difficult.

When it comes to gambling affairs, then money has to be involved because that's the money means to why we call it gambling, let's put it like this that gambling is not complete until we use money to make a bet in it, only the lottery which is synonymous to gambling requires no money before you can partake, then the other example is in the case of those that uses gambling demo videosz games to learn and practice about gambling before they are into gambling fully, this is often common with newbie who are yet to get familiar with gambling experience.

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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Actually mate, I on my own perspective see gambling as a game and fun to do but otherwise many seems to see it as a means of income  and ends meet.
Demo account is not bad although it all evolves within the gambling world but here you do not spend money rather you are developing and building up your skills so as to encounter the real world gambling games. This gives you guidelines on how the real gambling looks like so you could know what is before hand and would not be taken unawares.
Irrespective of the amount committed to playing games, they are still tagged gambling because it is a means of you showing your commitment to playing the game and accepting the result that comes out of it.

As you have said In your last paragraph, I advise that who ever wants to gamble should gamble with funds they could afford to loss because that wouldn't bother them as they would see it as fun but if otherwise, lies a big problem for them because no gambling is free and there is no refund of money after betting.

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May 22, 2023, 11:12:39 AM
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Gambling without money can be seen as not gambling because finance is the major thing that triggers people to go into gambling for the sake of making profits from it. If you decide to bet without money involving in it, the two parties may not take it that seriously because they believe that money is nit involved in the bet so everyone that make the bet will not take it too seriously because funds is not involved.

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May 22, 2023, 11:29:17 AM
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but what about OP's topic is a total free from betting but there is possibilities to win and that is what it stands . according to  internet it is about

Advice to consider if you’re gambling

Set a money limit in advance, and stick to it Before you begin playing, decide what you can afford to spend and commit to it. ...

Walk away from your losses ...
Treat gambling as an expense ...

Set a time limit in advance ...

Notice your feelings ...

Keep other activities in the mix ...

Take lots of breaks ...


this is what says in this link : https://www.bing.com/search?q=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=how+to+consider+gambling%3F&sc=10-25&sk=&cvid=B246D4E2A44C4F6280B7763B3251A4D1&ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=

with all of those , I think what ask above is different from being a gambler?and besides what is gambling if you don't need to put a bet, yeah you are wasting time and chances but yet there are still no money from your end.

The list you shared is great! Short sentences and straight to the point. Taking these rules into account, I agree with you that we can't talk about gambling if you don't risk your money.

This doesn't mean that time and attention aren't valuable finite assets too, and there is also a chance to get addicted to games where you don't put your money at stake; but we could easily erase a few sentences from the shared above if we took money out of the equation.

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May 22, 2023, 12:37:29 PM
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Gambling without money can be seen as not gambling because finance is the major thing that triggers people to go into gambling for the sake of making profits from it. If you decide to bet without money involving in it, the two parties may not take it that seriously because they believe that money is nit involved in the bet so everyone that make the bet will not take it too seriously because funds is not involved.
Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.

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May 22, 2023, 12:53:07 PM
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      -  But there are movies I've seen where when a gambler bet in a casino and when he still loses, what they pay is a car or expensive jewelry in exchange for their loss and the casino also agrees, even if it's just a movie is possibly also true in reality.

That means, even if money is not used for gambling, as long as you have something that you have done in a casino, it can still be considered gambling.

Well, movies is another story, mate. I've never seen a single one where gambling was depicted truthfully.

But back to the topic. In this thread by "money" we mean anything that has some value, so, you are right, if we put something valuable at stake, not necessarily money, that's gambling, of course.

The thing is that whether the coins from the faucet are valuable is a big question, because the amount is so small that you can't withdraw it.

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May 22, 2023, 07:30:26 PM
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Demo account is still gambling imo just you arent risking anything either, its hard to say as it literally is a practice account but also its still the same game.    Some people say the same thing about gambling small amounts but its all relative to your own boundaries and personal limits.  I still count it as gambling, if you won 10x in a row would you ignore the win as not real because it wasnt for money.  I have to disagree the gambling works as a game even when you dont gamble big or even gamble money at all I believe thats important to keep as a core thing or possibly the entire game just turns into a circle of money and stressful tbh.
   I think its even possible people learn more relieved of the money factor, just play and explore the game then add money and keep it as icing on the cake to every win or loss with your game, bets, etc.
Yes, even though using fake money on a demo account can also be said to be gambling in the training stage, because using something in the form of value at stake even though it has no value is still said to be gambling, all people's views are different, so some will say this is not gambling and some say this is still called gambling.

Whatever form it takes, whatever type of asset or object is at stake, it is still said to be gambling because you don't always have to use money to gamble because it can be in any form and has value.

It is only playing or gaming.  Without any form of risk we cannot say the activity is gambling,  It is obvious that we are playing in a gambling platform but the discussion is the activity which is playing in a demo game where we don't stake anything. The discussion is also not about the future event where in time, the demo testing will then be in real betting and wagering mode.  Let us not think too much of the environment to not be confused.  Let us try to isolate the present activity not the future.

For example, trying a demo slots game.  Isolate the activity there and don't think anything about the platform or the possible next activity.

In a demo game, we play with fake money or play money. So the bet is fake, the risk is fake and the winnings will be obviously fake.  Meaning it is a fake gambling activity.  we all know that fake means not true or  not original.  Simply put, playing with a demo slot game is not originally gambling.

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May 22, 2023, 11:37:11 PM
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Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.

In principle, playing without money gives a person experience and good preparation for playing for money. But when a person knows he has nothing to lose, it can lead to some complacency. And when it comes to playing for money, a person may continue his somewhat frivolous attitude. 
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It can be interesting experiment. You can learn to play some new games in such a way, you can try to predict something or test some ideas. But the main test is where you bet your own money. Until this moment your predictions can be good only for you. How someone can believe your prediction if you don`t ready to prove your words with money?
Yes demo account is mainly for learners who want to play some free games without real time deposits on fake accounts,  but then in most cases the quality of the games are not the same with those that are played with real money,  since the winning is what excite many of us,  it's important to also note the place and role of having your bet at stake.

That alone increase the ability of the player to make the best decisions while playing the games,  and since there is a difference between free games and monetized games.
Yes, it is usually up to the individual to gamble without money. Demo account does not involve real money, trading is performed with real time market data. Being a newbie to online gaming, no deposit bonus codes or free offers may be tempting for you. Those who especially want to play real money games get it most of the time. In fact, your cash is risk free here as the no deposit bonus offers risk-free gaming. There may be some incentives for new players.
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Well, maybe it's just a joke for people who do moneyless gambling and it seems it has happened to some people. But even so, it's still fun because we've had so much fun with them and maybe next time we'll gamble with money. And those who gamble without money are just looking for fun that doesn't risk losing money so some people do it anyway. And whether we realize it or not, we can get carried away too deeply into the fun and in the end, we can use real money.

In principle, playing without money gives a person experience and good preparation for playing for money. But when a person knows he has nothing to lose, it can lead to some complacency. And when it comes to playing for money, a person may continue his somewhat frivolous attitude. 
The lesson he got was that gambling can give you losses and he must be prepared to lose his money. He has nothing to lose if he gambles without money but once he decides to use money, that's when he has to realize that the risks will come and can take the money at any time. And it also teaches a person to be careful if he wants to play gambling with money so that he can also set limits before deciding.

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