Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[LUCKMCFLY]

But for obvious reasons,  some of the folks who are addicted to this kind on none betting game are higher than those who are actually addicted to real gambling where they have to stake an amount.

I believe what happens is that when there isn't money involved gamblers don't feel the excitement they use to have when betting for real money. When there is nothing to lose and nothing considerable to win the effects on your brain are different. The release of dopamine doesn't happen, your heart doesn't beat faster, you don't get chills. There aren't high expectations regards the outcome, because if winning or losing the bet it won't make any difference on your life.

It's like people say: no pain, no gain, although in gambling I think we could say: no risk, no thrill.

If it is a gambler, they will not find it any challenge as there is no money involved, and it can make them unwilling to continue. But if there is money, they will surely be eager to continue, and this is where the real temptation of gambling lies. And maybe if there weren't any money, prizes, or anything at stake, it wouldn't be gambling but just an ordinary game played by two or more people. And we also have often experienced it and maybe felt the fun playing the game. Like for example, we compete or play games on phones. We don't get money or anything but only find pleasure in playing it.

For any challenge , games or whatever has to do with casinos , it must always be considered that if there is no game there is no Excitement for some people, that is Something that cannot be Changed from one day to the Next, things When it comes to casinos it's Different , you have Interests that make your game monopolize attention, and it's the same essence of winning or losing money , of hitting it and you're the winner, I think that's what Makes Everything come true See so Interesting, when we Play with money that is not real, things can be Boring , but for educational and learning aspects it is what Normally should be done and play with play money.

what is the category of games that can be classified as educational games,  can we put Crash into such categories because as for me there is nothing educational in playing gambling games if we say for passing time yes I may agree with that since gambling is one of the coolest ways to kill time since cashing fun is always time-consuming.

But then the involvement of money in gambling have really created room for the constant involvement of players since most of them are all in for the winning and money is the motivation.

It has to be either money or any other valuable things attached to it, else, it's no more gambling as nothing committed is attributed to it. In that case, it's mere playing and not gambling. And you rightly said it, the fact that money is involved is also a motivation that would want people to want to gamble more, without this, people would just see it as a means of fun. It would also never be possible to build any business around it this way.

Yes, occasionally when we play anything, if there isn't something that gives you emcoins we'll get bored and leave, and obviously it's the worst game of all, but if there's money involved it makes it very interesting, personally I think that any game is important, but when there is money it becomes a new flavor, something that gives that spice to what we are previously playing.

When is about sports betting we as players, as fans, as bettors, we always have an initial preference for some sports and we want to demonstrate our decision that if we have the power or demonstrate that we know a lot when we bet, it is something that cannot be avoided, That is why when everything is given with money, the importance is much greater.

[summonerrk]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

True, it does not allow you to experience a sense of loss or the feeling that the trader has finally earned something. And this is an important part of trading.
In a word, demo accounts do not cause feelings, they are just actions. But if a trader trades on crypto exchanges for at least a small amount, then he may experience fear, euphoria if he managed to earn quickly and easily, or sadness. And all this affects a person, and therefore his trading style.
Therefore, I advise all friends to trade not on a demo account, but immediately on a real deposit.

[Dunamisx]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

Every individuals gamblers give a different meaning and approach to gambling and likewise the addiction nature of it, but when you're making an argument with someone about sport or any other matter of discussion is not yet a gambling until you made a bet on it, the money you place will make it what to take on for the bet on what you're discussing or arguing about, so without money some will tell you it's just an argument and not gambling until you place a bet with money involved.

[Hamphser]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

True, it does not allow you to experience a sense of loss or the feeling that the trader has finally earned something. And this is an important part of trading.
In a word, demo accounts do not cause feelings, they are just actions. But if a trader trades on crypto exchanges for at least a small amount, then he may experience fear, euphoria if he managed to earn quickly and easily, or sadness. And all this affects a person, and therefore his trading style.
Therefore, I advise all friends to trade not on a demo account, but immediately on a real deposit.

When it comes to demo trading then it isnt really that bad for us to consider on touching up this space considering that we do really need up familiarize everything when it comes to those indicators or tools on which not all would really be that confident on directly making trades with live account or real deposits. Its true that you wont really be having that  feel of risks or that feeling that you would be confident on something
that you do know that you arent risking on something.

We are talking or mentioning about gambling on here though and not trading which it would really be that understandable that if something isnt really accompanied by risks or you havent been risking a single
thing then it wont really be considered as gambling since you arent that risking something which it is really the total opposite of it.

[Wiwo]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

Every individuals gamblers give a different meaning and approach to gambling and likewise the addiction nature of it, but when you're making an argument with someone about sport or any other matter of discussion is not yet a gambling until you made a bet on it, the money you place will make it what to take on for the bet on what you're discussing or arguing about, so without money some will tell you it's just an argument and not gambling until you place a bet with money involved.

Dunamisx is right on the involvement of money/bets that make it gambling and if you are only involved in just discussions without any attempt to make a stake it is just an argument in the long run because what gives it the excitement is the risk of bets and what you expect from those bets and their outcome. Gambling involves quite a lot of aspects and game speculations and discussions could help in decisions making when staking the bets but nothing other than that since one can not become an addict just by engaging in gambling-related discussions.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Every individuals gamblers give a different meaning and approach to gambling and likewise the addiction nature of it, but when you're making an argument with someone about sport or any other matter of discussion is not yet a gambling until you made a bet on it, the money you place will make it what to take on for the bet on what you're discussing or arguing about, so without money some will tell you it's just an argument and not gambling until you place a bet with money involved.

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

[xSkylarx]

Anything that involves luck is for me a gamble and gambling leads to addiction if not taken as entertainment. When you are playing to check your luck and if it involves money then that kind of entertainment gives you an adrenaline rush. That rush gives you a sense of excitement and uncertainty that is proportional to taking a risk without knowing the end. Any kind of bet without money is still a bet and yes it qualifies as gambling. It seems OP has never placed a bet in his life which might be the reason OP created this thread.

Every individuals gamblers give a different meaning and approach to gambling and likewise the addiction nature of it, but when you're making an argument with someone about sport or any other matter of discussion is not yet a gambling until you made a bet on it, the money you place will make it what to take on for the bet on what you're discussing or arguing about, so without money some will tell you it's just an argument and not gambling until you place a bet with money involved.

Dunamisx is right on the involvement of money/bets that make it gambling and if you are only involved in just discussions without any attempt to make a stake it is just an argument in the long run because what gives it the excitement is the risk of bets and what you expect from those bets and their outcome. Gambling involves quite a lot of aspects and game speculations and discussions could help in decisions making when staking the bets but nothing other than that since one can not become an addict just by engaging in gambling-related discussions.

Mostly if we are doing a gamble with nothing on the line like money, we never get into serious mode, like we just say the team or the one that we are very fans of will win and we don't really analyze it like if there are injuries like we used to when we bet with money on the line, but it doesn't mean that it is not fun because there are times that friendly betting and if the bets are tasks to be done, then it is really funny.

[tusandii]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

[SamReomo]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

Well risking money or the things that worth money is same because they only bet with the items that can be sold without any issue and that's why when they win the bet then they can have that item as a winning bet. In order to gamble we'll always have to risk money or something that has a worth and can be sold later on. A gambler who doesn't bets with money or with items that worth money isn't a gambler at all, and I would consider such person as a kid who loves to play video games with virtual money that has no element of winning or losing.

A gambler is either a winner or a loser depending on his/her luck or the amount of win rate or loss rate they have in their gambling life. If someone who consistently wins the bets then I would consider such a gambler as a winner because such people are quite sure that their luck is in their favor and on whatever game they bet their rate is winning is higher than others. However if someone who consistently faces losses in gambling then I would consider such a gambler as a pure loser, and it's always better for such people to give up on gambling if they don't want to lose everything.

[Fortify]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

I guess it heavily depends on the individual, for me however the fun element (of gambling specifically) is not there if the financial risk and reward is missing. However you can see in certain scenarios that some people get joy from virtual money/item gambling, when you see the popularity of things like counter strike go item betting. However even in that scenario there was a cash out value inherently linked to each item. I remember playing virtual money poker and it is nothing like the real game because the tactics seem to be missing in comparison, nobody wants to wait around 20 hands for the perfect combo when so little comes of it.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Of course, we as players, as traders, will always find ourselves on occasions with many places where we will see demo accounts, play money and everything that has to do with what is demo, which is not bad, it is taken into consideration that a person when you don't know how to make a bet, the demo mode is your salvation, because it doesn't matter if you lose money, it's a demo mode, the money is fictitious, it's also for that, to learn how to use the tools that the casino offers in a game specific, the same happens with exchanges, there are many tools, and you can try all of them and learn to use them.

Casinos and exchanges have this point in common, that they have demo mode or play money, for me it is super important that in demo mode of an exchange you can operate first, and in casinos once you have full knowledge of how to play so that they venture into the real mode with real money.

Well you are very correct and that is why we refers to casino and exchange as sister service providers because future trading is same as gambling because you risk losing all at some point and this have made many newbies to both trading and gambling to have similar experiences and because of experience many of them have lost good money because the did not not know or master the act of gambling or trading between demo account and the real live games. After all, this is two different things and at that, we must learn the difference between both of them.

I use to play a demo game and I have almost 80% winning chances at that, I thought the same will apply to the next real live games and thereafter most of my bets were all lost. 

   -  Future trading is a very high risk, if you don't have knowledge you are really gambling money there, which is no different from gambling. That the average loss is too high like playing gambling in a casino.

That's why when I gamble, it's usually only on slot games so even without a demo, you can start betting here. So what you mentioned is also correct and I do not oppose it. The only thing I don't understand is how you get 80% winnings in gambling.

[demonica]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

I believe that it's considered as gambling once you risk something that is valuable in exchange for something more valuable. Regardless if it's in monetary or other non cash assets or property. As long as it has value and you bet on it, it's gambling. But if you play or bet on something without spending money and  without winning a real money then it's just like a game purely for entertainment. However, there are also instances where you can win money without spending money. But for me, it's like a sort of reward just like what you see on tv. They play games without spending anything but still have a chance of winning money.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

I believe that it's considered as gambling once you risk something that is valuable in exchange for something more valuable. Regardless if it's in monetary or other non cash assets or property. As long as it has value and you bet on it, it's gambling. But if you play or bet on something without spending money and  without winning a real money then it's just like a game purely for entertainment. However, there are also instances where you can win money without spending money. But for me, it's like a sort of reward just like what you see on tv. They play games without spending anything but still have a chance of winning money.

Haha
Well, to be sincere with you, playing a game where you stand a chance to win money, where as you did not spend money ultimately might not be considered as gambling, but still, it give some kind of gambling effect..

I remember last year during 2022 world cup, several crypto exchange s offered their users the ability to bet on who will win in most of the matches, the betting were mostly free, but it was still betting, I remember winning most of the games I betted on, while I lost some, but again, I also remember the feeling I used to get while watching those games I better on, and expecting a positive outcome, it no different from the way I use to feel when I have money at stake.

So to be sincere, it's a reward, but it's still gambling.

[MAAManda]

I guess it heavily depends on the individual, for me however the fun element (of gambling specifically) is not there if the financial risk and reward is missing. However you can see in certain scenarios that some people get joy from virtual money/item gambling, when you see the popularity of things like counter strike go item betting. However even in that scenario there was a cash out value inherently linked to each item. I remember playing virtual money poker and it is nothing like the real game because the tactics seem to be missing in comparison, nobody wants to wait around 20 hands for the perfect combo when so little comes of it.

I don' agree with your opinion, we should take the reference as the basis for this topic, based on the Oxford Dictionary, it says that Gambling is "The activity or practice of playing at a game of chance for money or other stakes".

So it means that, all activities which allow us to earn money by playing like guessing scores or guessing anything is an activity with the opportunity to earn money, so it means that it's still gambling, even if it's without money (for this case is Superpicks.com) or capital at all or playing for free on that site.

[Jody.Drummer]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

[delfastTions]

I would also say that without money it is not really gambling. It's playing in demo mode, with fictitious money or with chickpeas, but it's not gambling as such because there are emotions linked to the loss or gain of money, which are intrinsic to gambling and which you obviously don't experience if you don't use money.

Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

And what about the fact that the very feeling that you won even in such a funny game, or rather a dispute, when the prize is a pack of cigarettes.  All the same, we must agree that your own feelings of winning or losing are still completely different. 

Judging by the way the Oxford Dictionary interprets the term "gambling", then apparently it means the loss or acquisition, respectively, in the event of losing or winning some material value, well, or just money.  And if, as a result of such a game, you just had fun and got in a good mood, then it probably cannot be considered a reliable gambling game.  In fact, it is not clear where such a border lies when a game can be considered gambling, and when it is not.?

[South Park]

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

Sometimes what is at stake is something that is not even physical, one example of this is reputation, there are many people out there with big egos that believe they are always right, so if two people like that were to gamble about an uncertain outcome even if no money or something with a monetary value was exchanged, as long as one won and the other lost then the gambler that lost will feel they lost face or some of their reputation, making such a bet an act of gambling in my mind.

[LUCKMCFLY]

For any challenge , games or whatever has to do with casinos , it must always be considered that if there is no game there is no Excitement for some people, that is Something that cannot be Changed from one day to the Next, things When it comes to casinos it's Different , you have Interests that make your game monopolize attention, and it's the same essence of winning or losing money , of hitting it and you're the winner, I think that's what Makes Everything come true See so Interesting, when we Play with money that is not real, things can be Boring , but for educational and learning aspects it is what Normally should be done and play with play money.

what is the category of games that can be classified as educational games,  can we put Crash into such categories because as for me there is nothing educational in playing gambling games if we say for passing time yes I may agree with that since gambling is one of the coolest ways to kill time since cashing fun is always time-consuming.

But then the involvement of money in gambling have really created room for the constant involvement of players since most of them are all in for the winning and money is the motivation.

If I understood correctly, he didn't mean that there are games in gambling that are educational, what he meant was that gambling with demo accounts or in demo mode can be boring but it must be done for learning purposes, and by learning it means to understand how a particular game works and how are the graphics, what you can win for different things if they come, these things are all available in slot machines which are the most played games.

When we talk about the involvement of real money, it obviously is more fun playing with real money since you get to have real money when you hit a big win which isn't the case with free money, unless you are losing which is only good in demo mode since you won't lose real money.

Exactly, I think that when talking about games of chance the word educational sounds very little, but it really is very necessary, because the risk that is being taken is money, all games of chance if you don't need to bet money I think you would not have the same emotion that arouses in people, as I said, gambling in demo mode is for people to know well the specific tools of each game and when playing with the real mode of real money they do not make mistakes.

Demo modes, like play money, some don't take it, because they think they're too big and say they understand the game, but when they lose and see that it's because they didn't use certain options, that's when they worry about learning, that's why it's always important If you don't know everything, play in demo mode, which is usually boring but special so that all doubts come out.

Especially when it comes to slots, the first thing I do is restart the demo mode because I know that this will help me at a good time, however, when we think that things are getting out of control, it could be said that with play money any mistake is forgivable. That is why I give the required importance to it, but in my way of thinking, it is how I avoid accidents where I lose money, because if I lose money it cannot be recovered so easily, and for gambling the most we should avoid is losing money due to mistakes or oversights.

[danadc]

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

That is just what makes the game interesting, money, when there is money in a game things will always be more interesting, exciting and fair, because most players like bets, age does not matter, because being risking that is something it makes them feel more alive, that's why games of chance are called that, because they have money associated with them.

I have played some games without betting money, but just playing for the sake of playing and you can also have fun just because things are not as good as when they are done with money, because that way if it attracts attention and all the time it will be about if you win or lost money. The emotions of gambling with bets and everything that has to do with bets is better with money, otherwise it is child's play.

[tusandii]

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I believe that it's considered as gambling once you risk something that is valuable in exchange for something more valuable. Regardless if it's in monetary or other non cash assets or property. As long as it has value and you bet on it, it's gambling. But if you play or bet on something without spending money and  without winning a real money then it's just like a game purely for entertainment. However, there are also instances where you can win money without spending money. But for me, it's like a sort of reward just like what you see on tv. They play games without spending anything but still have a chance of winning money.

Therefore I often say that everyone's perception will be different and we cannot expect other people to have the same thoughts as us, so that in terms of gambling there must be differences and suits for every gambler.
If I myself could say that gambling is really pure when there are a number of benefits at stake from both parties, be it in the form of money or valuables.

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Talking about gambling there are many meanings and when betting outside an online casino or land casino there are also some people who bet on a sporting event but they are not risking money but valuables such as cars or gold but because we are talking within the scope of the online gambling industry then it is clear that pure gambling is indeed risking the money we deposit, not using a faucet or a demo account.
From here I agree with the opinion that you have conveyed.

In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol

So that's what I meant from the previous feedback.
But I admit that the notion of gambling can be misinterpreted by some people who don't have much knowledge about gambling, but I don't mind it because they might misinterpret it because they don't like gambling.
There are many things that can be at stake and we often do in our daily life, but it's just that we don't really realize it.