Without money, does it still qualify as gambling?

[jostorres]

Of course, we as players, as traders, will always find ourselves on occasions with many places where we will see demo accounts, play money and everything that has to do with what is demo, which is not bad, it is taken into consideration that a person when you don't know how to make a bet, the demo mode is your salvation, because it doesn't matter if you lose money, it's a demo mode, the money is fictitious, it's also for that, to learn how to use the tools that the casino offers in a game specific, the same happens with exchanges, there are many tools, and you can try all of them and learn to use them.

Casinos and exchanges have this point in common, that they have demo mode or play money, for me it is super important that in demo mode of an exchange you can operate first, and in casinos once you have full knowledge of how to play so that they venture into the real mode with real money.

Well you are very correct and that is why we refers to casino and exchange as sister service providers because future trading is same as gambling because you risk losing all at some point and this have made many newbies to both trading and gambling to have similar experiences and because of experience many of them have lost good money because the did not not know or master the act of gambling or trading between demo account and the real live games. After all, this is two different things and at that, we must learn the difference between both of them.

I use to play a demo game and I have almost 80% winning chances at that, I thought the same will apply to the next real live games and thereafter most of my bets were all lost. 

Futures trading and gambling might have a few similarities but they are definitely not the same and shouldn't be compared at all. Gambling is totally based on luck and one cannot win anything if they are unlucky, while futures trading might involve some luck as the market can move in any direction, one needs to have a lot of knowledge and experience of the market to be able to make good trades which can be done by doing research and analysis.

So the chances of getting more wins is more in futures trading because you do your research and analyze the coin you will be using for the trade and then place your trade as per your understanding of the market and how it's behaving right now, while there is no concept like that in gambling except for sports betting.

[348Judah]

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

The stories and experience we all had during our childhood days with play station is very funny to remember because then we struggle to make sure we had money to gamble at the polaystation together with friends and bet who to be a winner, then we never even counted it a thing of concern that much even when we loose while playing games, we had funs and play together and win and still use the money to hang out with friends and spend it together in buying things, though then it was not as widely abused as today because it's all about entertainment and gamblers don't use more than they can afford to loose for gambling.

[Mr.right85]

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

You see Technically, the argument here is that, predictions can be regarded as gambling?
Because in the end, that's what is, predictions.
When you make go through your steps to arriving at the point where you decide to pick your most suitable to triumph in a competition without supporting it with any stake, that's just prediction. It's way far from gambling, it doesn't matter if there is a prize in the end of the event, when you've got nothing to lose should your prediction mot play out, it just doesn't count as gambling.

It becomes gambling only when it's backed up with a stake of some sort. It doesn't always have to be money but, you must have something at stake to support your claims less you lose your stake.

[summonerrk]

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

You see Technically, the argument here is that, predictions can be regarded as gambling?
Because in the end, that's what is, predictions.
When you make go through your steps to arriving at the point where you decide to pick your most suitable to triumph in a competition without supporting it with any stake, that's just prediction. It's way far from gambling, it doesn't matter if there is a prize in the end of the event, when you've got nothing to lose should your prediction mot play out, it just doesn't count as gambling.

It becomes gambling only when it's backed up with a stake of some sort. It doesn't always have to be money but, you must have something at stake to support your claims less you lose your stake.

The line is very blurred. I agree that if you don't bet anything, then it's not gambling at all. But what's the point of doing that? Anyone will not last that long, and will bet money, or finish this lesson.
So about the blurred edge: and if a person put 10 cents?
Well, for example, for a football match.
Is this gambling? And if he bet $1? And if 10? And here I am 100% sure that this is gambling.
So where is the border?
And the answer is simple - everyone has their own.
If you are ALREADY EXPERIENCING adrenaline and excitement after betting $ 3 on a match, it means that this is your amount from which gambling begins. I mean, excitement determines the moment when games become gambling for you.

[danadc]

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

You see Technically, the argument here is that, predictions can be regarded as gambling?
Because in the end, that's what is, predictions.
When you make go through your steps to arriving at the point where you decide to pick your most suitable to triumph in a competition without supporting it with any stake, that's just prediction. It's way far from gambling, it doesn't matter if there is a prize in the end of the event, when you've got nothing to lose should your prediction mot play out, it just doesn't count as gambling.

It becomes gambling only when it's backed up with a stake of some sort. It doesn't always have to be money but, you must have something at stake to support your claims less you lose your stake.

I know that the whole secret lies in predicting things , if each sport or each thing you Want to bet on is accurately predicted, the point is to take advantage of that to win, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, things are better that way when there is talk of how to do to be able to have a better Performance than what is known, there is no other way to prove it or that if a person wants to make believe that his criteria is correct, well that is how it should be done, if there is no money Involved , the sunsets can get very boring because I have experienced it , the emotion is not the same and that is why it is Better to place bets with money.

[Hamphser]

When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

You see Technically, the argument here is that, predictions can be regarded as gambling?
Because in the end, that's what is, predictions.
When you make go through your steps to arriving at the point where you decide to pick your most suitable to triumph in a competition without supporting it with any stake, that's just prediction. It's way far from gambling, it doesn't matter if there is a prize in the end of the event, when you've got nothing to lose should your prediction mot play out, it just doesn't count as gambling.

It becomes gambling only when it's backed up with a stake of some sort. It doesn't always have to be money but, you must have something at stake to support your claims less you lose your stake.

I know that the whole secret lies in predicting things , if each sport or each thing you Want to bet on is accurately predicted, the point is to take advantage of that to win, otherwise it wouldn't make sense, things are better that way when there is talk of how to do to be able to have a better Performance than what is known, there is no other way to prove it or that if a person wants to make believe that his criteria is correct, well that is how it should be done, if there is no money Involved , the sunsets can get very boring because I have experienced it , the emotion is not the same and that is why it is Better to place bets with money.

You wouldn't really feel any thrill on the time that you do make out bets on which you arent risking something but basing up on what OP provided that there are indeed places on which offering those risk-free bets

but you do have the chance or possibility on hitting up some prizes if you do got it right which i do highly believe that it is really just that temporal because no business would really be definitely giving out that kind of offer on which it would really be putting them at huge risks on having that kind of expenses on just giving up something for free on the community for them to make bets without having those kind of bets amounts
on which it is really just giving an opportunity for those bettors to win up something that they arent benefiting at all.

Any activity which it doesnt really involved money cant really be called gambling in the first place. Even if we do say that it isnt really that entertaining on having or getting involved with these free or no risk bets
but still there would really be people who would really be having that kind of interest on diving into these kind of opportunities.

[Blitzboy]

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Futures trading and gambling might have a few similarities but they are definitely not the same and shouldn't be compared at all. Gambling is totally based on luck and one cannot win anything if they are unlucky, while futures trading might involve some luck as the market can move in any direction, one needs to have a lot of knowledge and experience of the market to be able to make good trades which can be done by doing research and analysis.

So the chances of getting more wins is more in futures trading because you do your research and analyze the coin you will be using for the trade and then place your trade as per your understanding of the market and how it's behaving right now, while there is no concept like that in gambling except for sports betting.

I recall the terror of the unknown when I first started trading futures. It wasnt gambling. Futures trading has tools and information to help you avoid losing your shirt. Its not just luck. Understanding market trends and global events' effects on crypto is the goal. These misunderstandings sometimes leave people feeling awful.

These uninformed comparisons shouldnt ruin futures trading. After all, its serious business with a humorous twist that keeps you on your toes! Keep the ingenuity going and educate those who dont know.

[maydna]

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When you referred to Playstation I recalled that there was a time when Playstation gaming zone in my country was a den of illegal betting. It all started with guessing which player would win while playing FIFA and then it slowly moved to betting with money. Whether money was involved or not it will be counted as a gamble. After money got involved the gaming zone was making a lot of money as there were many better in that place. After a few days, they had to put in place security guards as the situation became critical with the crowd. When money is involved, things do get serious and sometime out of control. 

It also happened at my place, although I don't know it in detail. The contest committee wouldn't know about it because the betting was done quietly between the players so that they could bet freely. But sometimes, the bet is placed a few hours before the match takes place, which will make the bet even more fun because no one knows who has the chance to win unless the person can analyze it properly. And yes, when money is involved, things can take a more serious turn and get out of hand. Even in many other contests, it happened too, but few people know.

[Bitcoin_people]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Although this website appears to be a domestic one I would limit it to Free Spain. Basically, if you create an account here, you will be given a bonus that you can gamble with. Here you may need to deposit your money if you can successfully claim your bonuses. You can increase your money by betting with the bonuses you get here. And if you can win your prize then your prediction is good and can bet from here. And if you play with the rewards you get from this bonus, you don't have to deposit money there and get profit from here.

[LUCKMCFLY]

There is nothing to think about once you become a gambling addict, your sense of thinking will be shut down, and the only thing left in your brain is when you will make it with gambling, you will keep dreaming about how you will buy a mansion and Lamborghini.

If you put in the strength to change a gambler, you could get somewhere for a few days and weeks, and once you leave them alone, they will start dreaming of the possibility that they could win a shot, a single shot will turn into 100s of a failed attempt and money would have been spent too many times already.

For the same reason, when a person feels like this, they must undergo psychological treatment quickly because otherwise they will continue to endanger their lives, a person who is addicted and has a lot of money, because it is not that much that affects them. he spends and spends his money and that is like nothing, but for a person who is not a millionaire and who plays and loses a lot, there will come a time when he has no more money to play with and that is when he begins to look for money from where O In order to continue playing, he lends, steals, spends what belongs to his family, and may fall into depression, that is what must be avoided.

As I have said before, things when it comes to money and addiction can change a lot, because at one point an addicted person is capable of looking for money from the most difficult corners, whether it is looking for bank loans, loans with relatives, money loans with friends, and the worst thing is that instead of winning in the casino, the opposite happens and despair is greater, these things are like that, it is what should be avoided.

It's true; people battling addiction often find themselves in financial quicksand. The situation intensifies for those who don't have the 'moneybags' privilege. There's an urgent need to address this - fast.

Now, let's tackle the thorny issue of 'financial disparity'. For the wealthy addicts, the loss is negligible (talk about a convenient safety net!). But, for the not-so-lucky, it's like hitting a double-whammy. Losing money is bad enough; getting into debt compounds the problem, turning life into a grim version of 'Deal or No Deal'.

The spiral of despair, as you mentioned, is a perilous pitfall. It's like a constant losing streak in the most ruthless casino—life. And the drive to keep finding money from 'difficult corners', ah, that's the dicey part. I agree, it's an 'avoid at all costs' scenario.

From the point of view of an addicted but wealthy person, things can be normal for that type of person , because spending money when you have a lot is insignificant , I think that for some Families that have this type of person, they prefer that they spend a lot of money in a Casino than on drugs or alcoholic beverages, and when this type of case happens, the player or those people get bored of casinos and look for another type of activity that makes them feel like they have more adrenaline, but when this happens, the problems increase, I know many who They are like that, on the other hand, for a common player who is not or does not have that economic Capacity , they are the ones who have the most problems, because they can fall into addiction and do not recognize it, and I think that when recognition is very difficult for them to Return to their Natural State, because they need Strong Treatment, some Medicate them.

Every addiction Problem should always Look for the way it is treated , because in any case things can get out of control and need to be treated Quickly, there are people who are usually very extremists and make decisions with a high degree of danger, you should always be Attentive to these things because in general these people when they reach a point of Maximum pressure , they Usually try against their lives , it is an ugly scenario , but it is what some take as a solution, therefore now we do not have control over play in a casino , we must Consider all these Consequences.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?

if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com

My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?

Although this website appears to be a domestic one I would limit it to Free Spain. Basically, if you create an account here, you will be given a bonus that you can gamble with. Here you may need to deposit your money if you can successfully claim your bonuses. You can increase your money by betting with the bonuses you get here. And if you can win your prize then your prediction is good and can bet from here. And if you play with the rewards you get from this bonus, you don't have to deposit money there and get profit from here.

Though i do not quite understand what all that you have said, but then, let me just say that the site op mentioned, though ive not visited to see for my self how it works, but according to OPs description, i will call the site a giveaway site rather than qualify it for a gambling casino, if there are no means to deposit on the site, its just visit the site, sign up and start predicting the outcome of matches, and win money if prediction is correct, then its a giveaway site, could be a site built by supersports to use as a medium of giving back to their loyal sports fans - like i said before, i did or have not visited the site, all i have said is simply based on OPs description.

[Docnaster]

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I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

Gambling with your hope such that when you lose, you lose emotionally and physiologically is not a welcome development.
I see that so many people preach that we should take gambling as a fun but in practice only few people do that.
In practice the real definition of gambling foe fun is when money is not involved. Immediately money is involved, emotion is attached to I.

[Betwrong]

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Games that previously did not use money can eventually use the money if the people who play them feel pleasure while playing. This has often happened because they didn't want to play gambling and just played normally. But after tasting the game and wanting to get some more fun, they decide to use the money between them. The winner will get the money, while the loser has to acknowledge the winner's ability. This we often experience with our friends when we play PlayStation or something else. And if it's like that, isn't that gambling? And on that site, previously, we only guessed who won, but later there will be bets, and maybe the site will also create its own token.

Of course it is. If you put your money at stake, be it betting on the weather tomorrow or on your coworker showing up on time the next day, it's all gambling, although you could do same "bets" before without staking any money and it wasn't gambling then.

But please notice that we would never have thought of calling it gambling when no money was involved. That's why I think that the games that potentially can be played for money shouldn't be called "gambling" while there's no money yet.

[leonair]

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I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.

Gambling with your hope such that when you lose, you lose emotionally and physiologically is not a welcome development.
I see that so many people preach that we should take gambling as a fun but in practice only few people do that.
In practice the real definition of gambling foe fun is when money is not involved. Immediately money is involved, emotion is attached to I.

Betting money is called gambling, it can be anywhere or for any reason. And it can be online or offline. but if one plays games which are used for gambling but no money is used and no valuable thing is exchanged then it cannot be called gambling. so in a word it can be said that if money is not used it cannot be called gambling.

This issue has already been discussed a lot so I don't think it is necessary to discuss it further.  So this topic should be locked now

[wiss19]

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Games that previously did not use money can eventually use the money if the people who play them feel pleasure while playing. This has often happened because they didn't want to play gambling and just played normally. But after tasting the game and wanting to get some more fun, they decide to use the money between them. The winner will get the money, while the loser has to acknowledge the winner's ability. This we often experience with our friends when we play PlayStation or something else. And if it's like that, isn't that gambling? And on that site, previously, we only guessed who won, but later there will be bets, and maybe the site will also create its own token.

Of course it is. If you put your money at stake, be it betting on the weather tomorrow or on your coworker showing up on time the next day, it's all gambling, although you could do same "bets" before without staking any money and it wasn't gambling then.

But please notice that we would never have thought of calling it gambling when no money was involved. That's why I think that the games that potentially can be played for money shouldn't be called "gambling" while there's no money yet.

Some people simply don't understand the fact that the games that are generally used for gambling can also be used just for playing without gambling on them, and games or events that are not usually used for gambling can be used for gambling if there is money or valuables at stake because a group of friends might play a game using a deck of cards without betting anything and that wouldn't be considered gambling but someone might bet on the outcome of a general event happening in the future and that will be considered gambling.

It is a very simple thing, gambling is when you have something up at stake, and when you lose, you lose the money, but when you are playing a game where you don't have anything up at stake and you don't lose anything, you cannot consider that to be gambling even if you can win something.

[delfastTions]

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Games that previously did not use money can eventually use the money if the people who play them feel pleasure while playing. This has often happened because they didn't want to play gambling and just played normally. But after tasting the game and wanting to get some more fun, they decide to use the money between them. The winner will get the money, while the loser has to acknowledge the winner's ability. This we often experience with our friends when we play PlayStation or something else. And if it's like that, isn't that gambling? And on that site, previously, we only guessed who won, but later there will be bets, and maybe the site will also create its own token.

Of course it is. If you put your money at stake, be it betting on the weather tomorrow or on your coworker showing up on time the next day, it's all gambling, although you could do same "bets" before without staking any money and it wasn't gambling then.

But please notice that we would never have thought of calling it gambling when no money was involved. That's why I think that the games that potentially can be played for money shouldn't be called "gambling" while there's no money yet.

Some people simply don't understand the fact that the games that are generally used for gambling can also be used just for playing without gambling on them, and games or events that are not usually used for gambling can be used for gambling if there is money or valuables at stake because a group of friends might play a game using a deck of cards without betting anything and that wouldn't be considered gambling but someone might bet on the outcome of a general event happening in the future and that will be considered gambling.

It is a very simple thing, gambling is when you have something up at stake, and when you lose, you lose the money, but when you are playing a game where you don't have anything up at stake and you don't lose anything, you cannot consider that to be gambling even if you can win something.

Here I think that the issue of gambling/non-gambling is not solved quite so simply. 

And the main thing, besides the fact of winning or losing money or some other valuable things, is also the process of the game itself when you are worried and happy or sad in case of a loss.  Of course, I understand that it is impossible to evaluate these feelings of yours with money or some equivalent, but for example, I can remember what feelings you experience during a football match, when your favorite team, for example, wins, or, unfortunately, loses.  Agree these experiences are very different.  And of course it's better when the football team wins. 
But if you just came to the stadium to watch the match and did not bet on the game, then the same is true for the areas of such games that are discussed in this topic.

[South Park]

Some people simply don't understand the fact that the games that are generally used for gambling can also be used just for playing without gambling on them, and games or events that are not usually used for gambling can be used for gambling if there is money or valuables at stake because a group of friends might play a game using a deck of cards without betting anything and that wouldn't be considered gambling but someone might bet on the outcome of a general event happening in the future and that will be considered gambling.

It is a very simple thing, gambling is when you have something up at stake, and when you lose, you lose the money, but when you are playing a game where you don't have anything up at stake and you don't lose anything, you cannot consider that to be gambling even if you can win something.

Gambling is everywhere, it is just that we do not understand what we are doing, even something as simple as driving a car is a gamble, as you are taking the bet that by using such a medium of transportation you will arrive faster to your job or wherever you want to go, while you take the risk of suffering an accident on the process, now this is a pretty safe bet, but it is still a bet as you are risking something on an outcome that is not known beforehand.

[seoincorporation]

Here I think that the issue of gambling/non-gambling is not solved quite so simply. 

It's simple, if there is money involved then is gambling, and if users are playing just to have fun without money involved then it's gaming.

In the OP post, we can deduct it's gambling because even if we are not risking our money we can win money with the predictions. And that's why I think that chance to end with profit makes from those kinds of bets gambling.

A good example of this is the Flappy Coin apk that used to pay BTC some years ago, it didn't have a cost to play and we had the chance to walk away with money, for me that's gambling.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Nevertheless, Forex and gambling have very similar financial instruments for making money, which completely erase the line between trading and gambling. So - on Forex there is such a contract called an Option. An option is such a tool when you predict that the price of a certain currency pair will be lower or higher after a while, and if you guess, you will get +100 percent to the deposit. Does it remind you of anything? This is a one-on-one roulette game for red and black. At the same time, since our topic is about games and trading not for money, then why that Options can be used on demo accounts.

The question is very good, but I think that things can be given as a demo account to verify that things in demo mode, such as the money is fictitious, the person plays calmer without fear of losing because he knows that he will not lose anything, then the tools that exist both in casinos and on exchanges is what we must know how to understand, why? because when we play or trade on a casino platform or when we trade real money, if we make a mistake because we don't understand the tools well, we lose money.

In casino games we must understand everything, what each thing is for, because we don't know if we can use it at any given time to save our investment, I think that's why there is always a demo mode with play money.

In conclusion, I think that when you play anything without including money, it can become boring at times, but when we put money automatically, the emotion will be rotten, so it could be said that the game in demo mode and/or with play money is for educational purposes and to be able to do things much better, so as not to have mistakes when playing for real money.

My own experience clearly shows that using demo accounts and practicing your actions on a demo account is not just a waste of time, but also a completely harmful activity for the simple reason that it takes your time and does not allow you to really develop the necessary skills.  It is much better and more correct to use not a demo version in trading and games, but very small real deposits in cryptocurrency.  For example, a few dollars, losing which is almost imperceptible to your budget. 
Thus, you will develop the necessary skills much faster and more correctly.

It's a really good way of looking at it, well maybe you pick up the skills faster than me, sometimes I've tried to do that and I make mistakes that sometimes cost me some money that I need later to develop a better game, but what? that? Maybe I am very prepared when it comes to doing anything in the casino, but I know myself, I prefer to spend a lot of time in the demo part to learn well each tool that the game offers us and then when I feel confident Good My real bets are I do it with real money, maybe I'm a bit methodical, but I've learned that with money you shouldn't lose like that.

I give a lot of importance to playing in demo mode, because I saw the importance of demo mode from the moment I started trading, specifically in an exchange where, because I thought I knew how to put a position well, what I did was make a profit that I already had lose, so that bothered me a lot, because of that mistake I lasted 3 days in demo mode and learned many things, that's why I apply that same teaching to casino games, the truth is I don't like losing money in a stupid way , I like to do things well, but of course, there are people who have a better understanding of the tools of casinos and exchanges.

I know that there are many people who think like me, but there are also others who believe that it is a waste of time and I understand them, the emotion, the adrenaline of playing is something that makes us unique when facing the challenges of the casinos.

[Mr.right85]

Gambling is everywhere, it is just that we do not understand what we are doing, even something as simple as driving a car is a gamble, as you are taking the bet that by using such a medium of transportation you will arrive faster to your job or wherever you want to go, while you take the risk of suffering an accident on the process, now this is a pretty safe bet, but it is still a bet as you are risking something on an outcome that is not known beforehand.

Does that counts?

I don't want you beleive that but, I hope it doesn't as
We can't technically associate whatever that has a risk factor with gambling. If that be the case, then gambling would pretty much be everything. Even having go breath would be some form of gamble as you could breath some infested air and end up poisoning your lungs which eventually kills you.

So yeah, everything with a risk factor don't technically fall under the gambling classification. I'll take it to be, a bet between parties on a possible outcome and there have got to be a risked item upon triumph or failure.