The madness of gambling addicts.

[Docnaster]

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

Sometimes when your relative is into gambling, you will not even know but outsiders will be gossiping about it and it is only someone that loves you that will bring the information to you. Especially as anyone can easily gambling with their phones it will be difficult for anyone to know who is gambling or not.
But advices making you to understand your family will go along way to curb addiction only if the person cares about their family.

[Pamadar]

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

Indeed, if we know someone who is suffering with the kind of addictions,

Our first reaction is to find ways on how we can help them, even they are not asking for it but the concern for us knowing that
they can ruin their life will push us to try encouraging them and accept the assistance that we wanted to provide, to the extent
that we will continue making our ways to make them realize that they needed to re-assess whatever they are suffering.

[GigaBit]

Don't dream too much of getting big wins; only think of gambling as fun. We will not be so eager to chase that win by thinking like that and the best thing is that we can manage our money to gamble and enjoy the moment of playing gambling.

That's how it should be but many gamblers are not treating gambling as a way to entertain themselves. We all want to gain huge but gambling is not the answer to achieve that because of the high risk. If some gamblers are lucky to hit a huge jackpot, other gamblers are losing their money and some of these are desperate to accumulate funds to sustain their gambling activity just like the story in the op.

If we gamble we need to accept the result, never chase your losses and quit as early as you can. Because if you became addicted it would be hard already to stop. So keep in mind to only gamble in moderation to avoid the negative effect of gambling.

Many gamblers want to get big wins but don't understand that in gambling, we have to have luck to win. And as it turns out, many of them lose and can't recover their losses and if they keep trying, they have more chances to lose a lot of money.

And when it gets out of control, they will get angry and finally think they should continue gambling again. It will not provide good results for them but will provide more losses. We shouldn't be like that, especially if we are little gamblers or just gamblers who just want to win. We can try to find other ways to make money.

In gambling winning is a big factor. It is completely unreasonable to expect a big win in gambling. Because gambling is a matter of luck. If gambler's luck with him then it takes no time to succeed in gambling and if luck does not favor then there is no option but to lose. As victory and defeat are uncertain, no one can be sure what will happen in the coming days. But if gambling can be conducted regularly within a certain limit without becoming addicted then it can be called decent gambling. A gambler must keep in mind that the more he conducts betting with the aim of recovering his losses, he will lose more. The real target of gambling should be to enjoy only in the purpose of pleasure.

[komisariatku]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling

[AicecreaME]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling

This is a strong proof that if someone is madly addicted in gambling, he can do extreme and desperate measures just to satisfy his gambling addiction. Bad habits are hard to break. It takes time and strong mental stamina in order to break free from the usual routine you are used to doing. If the grandfather is excessively dependent on gambling, he'll definitely crave it to the point he'll do whatever it takes just to gamble again.

It's just so disappointing how a relative can be so selfish to put someone's life at stake for the sake of money. This is why we need to check up on the people we love to see whether they are doing just fine or they are going through some hardships such as gambling addiction which is a serious problem that needs intervention. By doing that, we could avoid things to escalate to this.

[ethereumhunter]

Actually this is where the real challenge is, I mean when a gambler becomes someone who gets angry or emotional easily, we must have patience, because otherwise we will definitely let them be more because we are afraid that we will be carried away by our emotions too. Handling people who are addicted is not as easy as imagined, we have to really sacrifice extra and slowly to understand what they want first. Because if we immediately impose our will then it will not reach a point where they will understand and realize that we are helping them let go of something that is excessive in them.

That's why we really need good self-control so we don't get carried away by emotions because those emotions can come at any time, especially if we have lost several times. Many people have finally lost self-control because of increased emotions and try to increase the bet amount just to win. It is highly not recommended and if we feel that our emotional level has started to rise, we should try to rest and take a breath so we can calm down. Meanwhile, people who are addicted to gambling are not easy to handle and that is why they need to invite other people with them to prevent people who are addicted to gambling from losing self-control. We can't force those addicted to gambling, but we can approach them slowly and start helping them until they can open their minds that they need help.

Sometimes when your relative is into gambling, you will not even know but outsiders will be gossiping about it and it is only someone that loves you that will bring the information to you. Especially as anyone can easily gambling with their phones it will be difficult for anyone to know who is gambling or not.
But advices making you to understand your family will go along way to curb addiction only if the person cares about their family.

We should ask our relatives if we hear about the gossip because it will be better. We can hear the story directly from our relatives so that we won't be wrong in knowing the real story. Maybe we can only see from the habits of family members so that we will know if changes have happened to them. Once we know that, we can approach them and talk to them and who knows, it might open their mind to want to tell the truth. Maybe that person will hear our advice more because we can approach it kindly.

Indeed, if we know someone who is suffering with the kind of addictions,

Our first reaction is to find ways on how we can help them, even they are not asking for it but the concern for us knowing that
they can ruin their life will push us to try encouraging them and accept the assistance that we wanted to provide, to the extent
that we will continue making our ways to make them realize that they needed to re-assess whatever they are suffering.

We will try to approach him to ask the truth to find out how to help him. But that will depend on the people we are going to help because if they still insist they don't want to be helped, we can't do anything either but we can still be with them so they know that we are with them.

Indeed, it is not easy to approach someone who is used to gambling, let alone being able to give advice to him. If they don't want to accept it, we can even fight with them and they might stay away from us. That's why we must be careful in approaching him and use ways that won't provoke his emotions.

In gambling winning is a big factor. It is completely unreasonable to expect a big win in gambling. Because gambling is a matter of luck. If gambler's luck with him then it takes no time to succeed in gambling and if luck does not favor then there is no option but to lose. As victory and defeat are uncertain, no one can be sure what will happen in the coming days. But if gambling can be conducted regularly within a certain limit without becoming addicted then it can be called decent gambling. A gambler must keep in mind that the more he conducts betting with the aim of recovering his losses, he will lose more. The real target of gambling should be to enjoy only in the purpose of pleasure.

Yes, we really need luck in gambling but unfortunately, we will never know when that luck will come. We will only find out after we have finished playing and if the result is that we win, regardless of the amount, it means that luck is with us. And we can't hope we can win again in the next round. But if we lose, it means we don't have luck, so we have to stop playing gambling before it's too late to do it. A gambler doesn't need to recover losses because it's difficult. After all, we will also need a lot of money and maybe it will exceed the previous amount of money. And the goal of gambling is to have fun; when it's over, we must stop immediately.

[pakhitheboss]

This is a strong proof that if someone is madly addicted in gambling, he can do extreme and desperate measures just to satisfy his gambling addiction. Bad habits are hard to break. It takes time and strong mental stamina in order to break free from the usual routine you are used to doing. If the grandfather is excessively dependent on gambling, he'll definitely crave it to the point he'll do whatever it takes just to gamble again.

It's just so disappointing how a relative can be so selfish to put someone's life at stake for the sake of money. This is why we need to check up on the people we love to see whether they are doing just fine or they are going through some hardships such as gambling addiction which is a serious problem that needs intervention. By doing that, we could avoid things to escalate to this.

People kill to satisfy their addiction, he only kidnapped and got punished. I am trying to deduce his understanding of the word grand daughter. According to my understanding he doesn't care about anything else but his gambling addiction. He didn't even bother to foresee what kind of a crime he is going to commit nither its repercussions. The addiction has crippled his mind so much that he hatched the plan of kidnapping his own grand daughter.

If he would have in his young prime then he would have sold his kids and his wife for gambling. Why he did not do it might be because he was earning money at that time. Now at an age of 65 he couldn't work anymore but still needed money to satisfy his addiction and that might be the only reason he committed this henious crime. Good he was caught and put behind bars. For the rest of his life he would be haunted with this crime in his dream. He would cry and ask for forgiveness but he won't get that till he dies.

[Josefjix]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

Such stories still exists in our present day? Gambling has broken families and pushed addicts to take numerous risky measures all in the name of being capable of wager. What would his child think if he saw a mature man take his granddaughter for ransom, not to settle bills or loans, but to gamble? It's ridiculous. Gambling at that age implies that he is a full-time gambler and will face the wrath of the law in prison. I doubt he'll survive the conditions over there; he's old and may never see his granddaughter again because they'd be too frightened to get close to him.

[LUCKMCFLY]

If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

A gambling addict doesn't necessarily have to be a drug addict as well, some of them might be but those are very rare cases. A drug addict generally doesn't have any money to gamble and even if they do, they are mostly not in their perfect senses and someone without any sense cannot gamble and even if they do, they can never manage to win anything.

Gambling addict who doesn't think that they are addicted or need any assistance is never going to let anyone help them out of the situation, only those gamblers who acknowledge the fact that they are in trouble because of their gambling habit can be helped.

Gamblers who acknowledge they are addicted to the gambling industry can go for the proper healing methods, otherwise, they think it is a matter of time to get rid of this bad life situation. Most gamblers don't mix both drugs and gambling but there are exceptions as well. I usually like monitoring chat rooms in casinos and some users don't get the feeling of money they use to bet on the casino games due to drug use. Just my opinion.

Nothing more than the fact that they mix a vice with drugs is something very bad, it is something that should never be consumed as far as I am concerned I have seen some cases of addiction in the game, but for it to be removed correctly the person has to go to a psychologist to help you, there is no other way, it could be said that we as people and that we like casinos should always have self-control, firstly to take care of the balance and secondly to never fall into addiction, because it becomes in a difficult social problem to overcome when you don't feel like it.

[tusandii]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

Such stories still exists in our present day? Gambling has broken families and pushed addicts to take numerous risky measures all in the name of being capable of wager. What would his child think if he saw a mature man take his granddaughter for ransom, not to settle bills or loans, but to gamble? It's ridiculous. Gambling at that age implies that he is a full-time gambler and will face the wrath of the law in prison. I doubt he'll survive the conditions over there; he's old and may never see his granddaughter again because they'd be too frightened to get close to him.

This is an example that indeed gambling addiction can have a negative impact on committing a crime so you can get some money to continue gambling.
But this is a case that cannot be taken lightly because he kidnapped his own grandson and demanded ransom from his own son.
It is better to limit gambling immediately if we cannot control it in the future so that we do not do reckless or criminal things.

[klidex]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

Such stories still exists in our present day? Gambling has broken families and pushed addicts to take numerous risky measures all in the name of being capable of wager. What would his child think if he saw a mature man take his granddaughter for ransom, not to settle bills or loans, but to gamble? It's ridiculous. Gambling at that age implies that he is a full-time gambler and will face the wrath of the law in prison. I doubt he'll survive the conditions over there; he's old and may never see his granddaughter again because they'd be too frightened to get close to him.

This is an example that indeed gambling addiction can have a negative impact on committing a crime so you can get some money to continue gambling.
But this is a case that cannot be taken lightly because he kidnapped his own grandson and demanded ransom from his own son.
It is better to limit gambling immediately if we cannot control it in the future so that we do not do reckless or criminal things.

Limiting yourself from gambling is a little difficult, especially if you are already an addict, it will be even more difficult, but if you are still a beginner gambler, it might be a little easy to always limit yourself not to place too much importance on gambling and if you want to gamble, always use money that you can afford to lose at gambling and of course use money that is not used for daily life.
So that there will be no triggers for gambling addiction which will have bad consequences in the long run.

[Hispo]

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

Such stories still exists in our present day? Gambling has broken families and pushed addicts to take numerous risky measures all in the name of being capable of wager. What would his child think if he saw a mature man take his granddaughter for ransom, not to settle bills or loans, but to gamble? It's ridiculous. Gambling at that age implies that he is a full-time gambler and will face the wrath of the law in prison. I doubt he'll survive the conditions over there; he's old and may never see his granddaughter again because they'd be too frightened to get close to him.

This is an example that indeed gambling addiction can have a negative impact on committing a crime so you can get some money to continue gambling.
But this is a case that cannot be taken lightly because he kidnapped his own grandson and demanded ransom from his own son.
It is better to limit gambling immediately if we cannot control it in the future so that we do not do reckless or criminal things.

This is the kind of news which makes me wish there was more reliable and affordable mental healthcare around the world, specially in developing countries, there people can be struggling more, both mentally and physically.

Perhaps there was a time when that man realize he had a problem, but did not have money to pay for help, so he did not get help but decided to commit this crime in order to continue to pursue his gambling habits.

When people talk about health, the first thing that comes to mind is physical health, vaccination, pills, exercise, but most of us only take a look at mental health when it is already too late, so do the governments around this planet.

[nullama]

~snip~
This is the kind of news which makes me wish there was more reliable and affordable mental healthcare around the world, specially in developing countries, there people can be struggling more, both mentally and physically.

Perhaps there was a time when that man realize he had a problem, but did not have money to pay for help, so he did not get help but decided to commit this crime in order to continue to pursue his gambling habits.

When people talk about health, the first thing that comes to mind is physical health, vaccination, pills, exercise, but most of us only take a look at mental health when it is already too late, so do the governments around this planet.

The thing is that mental health is extremely difficult to diagnose, specially for a large number of people. There's no test that you could use to sense the current level of your "mental health", whereas with physical health you can simply step on a balance and you'll have a rough idea with BMI.

Also the same events in life affect people differently, so one person might be struggling, whereas another one would be absolutely fine with the same lives. So, it's hard to know when someone is having mental issues, plus many people never stop and ask for help.

And even when you do have people asking for help for mental health, then it is really hard to help them because the treatment might be so different to different people, and it usually is very costly to make effective changes as they might require long time, many people, changing lifestyles, etc.

[slapper]

~snip~
This is the kind of news which makes me wish there was more reliable and affordable mental healthcare around the world, specially in developing countries, there people can be struggling more, both mentally and physically.

Perhaps there was a time when that man realize he had a problem, but did not have money to pay for help, so he did not get help but decided to commit this crime in order to continue to pursue his gambling habits.

When people talk about health, the first thing that comes to mind is physical health, vaccination, pills, exercise, but most of us only take a look at mental health when it is already too late, so do the governments around this planet.

The thing is that mental health is extremely difficult to diagnose, specially for a large number of people. There's no test that you could use to sense the current level of your "mental health", whereas with physical health you can simply step on a balance and you'll have a rough idea with BMI.

Also the same events in life affect people differently, so one person might be struggling, whereas another one would be absolutely fine with the same lives. So, it's hard to know when someone is having mental issues, plus many people never stop and ask for help.

And even when you do have people asking for help for mental health, then it is really hard to help them because the treatment might be so different to different people, and it usually is very costly to make effective changes as they might require long time, many people, changing lifestyles, etc.

I get your concerns about inadequate mental health services, more so in developing nations. However, implying that those with mental health issues might commit crimes due to lack of cheap help might be too general. True, money problems can hinder mental health care access, but linking crime strictly to this overlooks things like societal norms, personal choices, or legal systems.

Further, your argument about diagnosing mental health being more complex than physical health neglects strides made in the field. Methods like mental evaluations, guided conversations, and symptom tracking are often used in mental health diagnosis. They may not yield a value like BMI, but they give trustworthy mental health assessments.

The price tag and intricacy of mental health treatment doesn't undermine its effectiveness or necessity. While it can be pricey and demands lifestyle alterations, the upsides of mental health care surpass these challenges, leading to better overall life quality.

[nullama]

~snip~
I get your concerns about inadequate mental health services, more so in developing nations. However, implying that those with mental health issues might commit crimes due to lack of cheap help might be too general. True, money problems can hinder mental health care access, but linking crime strictly to this overlooks things like societal norms, personal choices, or legal systems.

Further, your argument about diagnosing mental health being more complex than physical health neglects strides made in the field. Methods like mental evaluations, guided conversations, and symptom tracking are often used in mental health diagnosis. They may not yield a value like BMI, but they give trustworthy mental health assessments.

The price tag and intricacy of mental health treatment doesn't undermine its effectiveness or necessity. While it can be pricey and demands lifestyle alterations, the upsides of mental health care surpass these challenges, leading to better overall life quality.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.

It's just that it's easier and cheaper to treat physical illnesses than mental health issues.

They are of course important, but given that it's more complicated to diagnose and treat them, I reckon they will always be behind the treatment of physical illness, although they do deserve the same or more importance.

[madnessteat]

~snip~
I get your concerns about inadequate mental health services, more so in developing nations. However, implying that those with mental health issues might commit crimes due to lack of cheap help might be too general. True, money problems can hinder mental health care access, but linking crime strictly to this overlooks things like societal norms, personal choices, or legal systems.

Further, your argument about diagnosing mental health being more complex than physical health neglects strides made in the field. Methods like mental evaluations, guided conversations, and symptom tracking are often used in mental health diagnosis. They may not yield a value like BMI, but they give trustworthy mental health assessments.

The price tag and intricacy of mental health treatment doesn't undermine its effectiveness or necessity. While it can be pricey and demands lifestyle alterations, the upsides of mental health care surpass these challenges, leading to better overall life quality.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.

It's just that it's easier and cheaper to treat physical illnesses than mental health issues.

They are of course important, but given that it's more complicated to diagnose and treat them, I reckon they will always be behind the treatment of physical illness, although they do deserve the same or more importance.

Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   

[shogun47]

Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   

But this relates only to situations that can be looked at over a long period of time. How would a system treat people that have a life-changing experience and then crash psychologically? That isn't something which can easily be predicted or anticipated. In my oPinion one of the safest situations is if someone has a healthy social environment and doesn't isolate themselves. That is when people can detect changes or even know that someone must be suffering and took a bad turn in life. Otherwise you would have to allow the health care system to be very intrusive and value all data that ever is collected about someone. That doesn't sound very good to me.  

[nullama]

~snip~
Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   

I think having free (paid by taxes on gambling for example) access to mental health would definitely help many people, and definitely save some lives.

Having the service there available for anyone, for free, is something that could actually help people in need.

But there's not much talk about mental health, specially in gambling. I guess it's just there to make money, and no one really cares about the people losing their minds alongside their money.

[Silberman]

Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   

While a more adequate treatment for those which suffer from a condition that is mostly on their minds would be great, the price we will have to pay as a society is too high, after all in these days in which people are connected with each other all the time and they share almost anything too, the only time they do not do so is when they are alone with their thoughts, if people were also forced to share whatever little private thoughts they have left they will surely complain about it and any reform on this regard will be quickly suppressed.

[Pamadar]

Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.   

While a more adequate treatment for those which suffer from a condition that is mostly on their minds would be great, the price we will have to pay as a society is too high, after all in these days in which people are connected with each other all the time and they share almost anything too, the only time they do not do so is when they are alone with their thoughts, if people were also forced to share whatever little private thoughts they have left they will surely complain about it and any reform on this regard will be quickly suppressed.

 A good alternative remedy is not to let those who you love to stay alone.

If you will take some time to spend with them, the chance that they will divert some of their attentions and that will help
them to speak about something. Though there are people who are not vocal but the companionship will allow them to
lose focus on what they are doing. It helps not to let them getting addicted.