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July 21, 2023, 03:00:22 PM
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Come on man, anyone asking people on youtube to join anything means that they are playing you...

Why on earth would you think some random person will take their time to create a video so that random people that person has never met will make money?

Come on man...
But hey, it really happened. I saw that on several YouTube when the streamer was playing live gambling, and there was a chat next to the video. People on the chat say to join for free money, which will be chosen randomly.

There are even streamers who invite people who watch their broadcasts to join. Well, perhaps they were toying with the people watching their broadcast. But if we don't join and just watch, that's okay too, right? Grin
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July 21, 2023, 06:10:54 PM
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Very different and strange take on this topic but it feels like undeniable truth that someone should be making money to be counted true professional. Otherwise its just hobby lol. I saw no video gamers claiming they are professional unless they join as team, find a sponsor, get wage, win contest etc so on. At the point where a gambler can generate money through he can be called pro. I think we may count sponsorships too - gambler doesn't need to be always making money only through gambling he is mastering.
I think you can still be called as a professional even if you are not earning with your skill. To earn is only a matter of choice but what values mostly by the professional is their talent. They are called professional because they are really good at what they are doing. I am not really sure if hobby is different from it but I know that you can also make money out of your hobby.

It's a great way to make a living this way because you enjoy what you are doing and you won't feel like you are working. A professional gambler can also have other talents and they can choose to make money on those. They can also apply for a real job if they want to. To have multiple income streams is always better, as it provides us more security.
Professionals and amateurs have always been ambiguous. Do professionals get paid? Is it the depth of knowledge, years of practice, and specialization?

For instance: A Hacksaw slots player with a natural understanding of game mechanics, strategy, and probability variables. Though not a professional gambler, this person may be better than those who do.

Its apparent that 'professional' has numerous meanings. Professionalism may be best viewed as a spectrum with monetary reward as one of several markers. Multiple income streams enrich skills and finances.

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July 22, 2023, 10:02:41 AM
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But hey, it really happened. I saw that on several YouTube when the streamer was playing live gambling, and there was a chat next to the video. People on the chat say to join for free money, which will be chosen randomly.

There are even streamers who invite people who watch their broadcasts to join. Well, perhaps they were toying with the people watching their broadcast. But if we don't join and just watch, that's okay too, right? Grin

Even if you see something like that, it doesn't mean it's actually real.

The streamer could easily just login there with another username, and send money to himself, or a friend, etc, to create the idea that it's working.

It's pretty common actually to see things like that when they want your money. It makes it more attractive for a lot of people to take the bait.

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July 22, 2023, 12:32:38 PM
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Even if you see something like that, it doesn't mean it's actually real.

The streamer could easily just login there with another username, and send money to himself, or a friend, etc, to create the idea that it's working.

It's pretty common actually to see things like that when they want your money. It makes it more attractive for a lot of people to take the bait.
We certainly don't know how the streamer plays gambling. Either he uses his own account or uses someone else's account or even the casino provides an account for him so he can stream his gambling games. We only know based on what we see and what they do. And that was enough for them to entice people to join and even use their referral link. And those of us who watch it shouldn't easily follow what they say, and if we want to join a casino, it's best to find a trusted casino and don't follow the streamer if you don't know him well.
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        -    well honestly, I've seen streamers live in crypto gambling  who always win their bets, I'm not sure if it's just a dummy account that they use, which could also come from the gambling owner himself.

When I watched it, it seemed like he was just throwing away money, because the minimum amount he estimates is 1000$ from the small amount of 2000$ because he always wins, he shows that his balance has become more than 2M$ which when you watch it will really encourage you to gamble. It's good that at that time I didn't have any gambling money😅

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July 22, 2023, 02:56:28 PM
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Even if you see something like that, it doesn't mean it's actually real.

The streamer could easily just login there with another username, and send money to himself, or a friend, etc, to create the idea that it's working.

It's pretty common actually to see things like that when they want your money. It makes it more attractive for a lot of people to take the bait.
We certainly don't know how the streamer plays gambling. Either he uses his own account or uses someone else's account or even the casino provides an account for him so he can stream his gambling games. We only know based on what we see and what they do. And that was enough for them to entice people to join and even use their referral link. And those of us who watch it shouldn't easily follow what they say, and if we want to join a casino, it's best to find a trusted casino and don't follow the streamer if you don't know him well.

We can't tell if how those streamers set it up, but one thing is for sure,

They are doing it to attract gamblers to use their referrals and bring more people to use the site. It will bring them viewers
plus the ref bonus that they will going to receive from the casino itself, meaning to say, whatever it is money will flow for
them, that's what matter for them and they will continue to seek for those followers to earn more.
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July 22, 2023, 03:13:19 PM
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        -    well honestly, I've seen streamers live in crypto gambling  who always win their bets, I'm not sure if it's just a dummy account that they use, which could also come from the gambling owner himself.

When I watched it, it seemed like he was just throwing away money, because the minimum amount he estimates is 1000$ from the small amount of 2000$ because he always wins, he shows that his balance has become more than 2M$ which when you watch it will really encourage you to gamble. It's good that at that time I didn't have any gambling money😅
There are some streamers who may be funded by the casino site itself and even the winnings are arranged, I've seen about articles like that that every streamer or influencer cooperates with casinos by making winning videos like that live or regular videos, so it's common and people know about it it's not a figment.

So actually it is a marketing technique where casinos can take advantage of influencers and streamers to attract new users to gamble and certainly will achieve their marketing targets, it's good that you don't have money at that time maybe if you have money of course you will be lured into gambling at that time and be influenced by the promotions they do through streamers and influencers.  Grin

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July 22, 2023, 03:13:31 PM
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        -    well honestly, I've seen streamers live in crypto gambling  who always win their bets, I'm not sure if it's just a dummy account that they use, which could also come from the gambling owner himself.

When I watched it, it seemed like he was just throwing away money, because the minimum amount he estimates is 1000$ from the small amount of 2000$ because he always wins, he shows that his balance has become more than 2M$ which when you watch it will really encourage you to gamble. It's good that at that time I didn't have any gambling money😅
Haha,
Sorry to say this  but you(not as in you that i am replying to) must be the most gullible if you actually believe all that you see or watch those streamers do , trust me when i tell you that most of those wins, and even the account balances are nothing but make believe, nothing is real, the winning is already programmed by the casino that the streamer is promoting, the account balance is also either inflated by the casino or is the casinos account, and the streamer was only given access to it for that stream.

Like you said, those tactics are just a way to motivate watchers of that live stream to create an account, if they don't already have one, make a deposit and play on the casino, in a bid to see if they can duplicate the same kind of winnings they just watched live on the stream.

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July 22, 2023, 10:40:55 PM
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Well, i personally think every human does have some type of addiction they are battling with, the truth is that addiction does not end at being addicted to gambling, there is the..
Drug addiction
Alcohol addiction
Sex addiction
Porn addiction which also leads to being addicted to masturbation
Movie addiction
Phone addiction ETC.

All the above are different types of addictions, some people today are addicted to their smart phones without even knowing, some are addicted to watching movies and they don't even know it, so in one way or the other, every human is addicted or have a very high chance of being addicted to some thing that is totally outside or not related to gambling, and it takes great discipline to keep one away from any of those addictions.
you are missing one type of addiction, that is online gaming, there have been many cases in my place where school children have skipped school just to play games in internet cafes and also bet online sports (fantasy sports) there

Whatever it is, the so-called addiction will surely lead everyone to stupid things, such as cheating and the most reckless thing is robbing

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July 22, 2023, 11:56:04 PM
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 The addition in gambling can make people do terrible things that would make people wonder why gambling was introduced into the society, the thing is gambling is not a bad idea but when you start doing it excessively that's when the it becomes a problem, because too much of everything they say, ain't good and one bad thing about an addiction is that it's very easily developed but sometimes very difficult to quit depending on how deep one has gotten into it,  and it could get bad to a point that when you lack funds to satisfy your addiction for it, it could lead you to do terrible things like stealing, selling valuable properties, taking huge loans from banks, or even killing, I've seen cases where people say they've been soaked into the act of gambling and there's nothing nobody could do to make them change those are the kind of people that could carry out dubious acts just to satisfy there addictions for gambling
 Also I've witness a case where a young lad was almost killed through jungle justice just because he staked on games for free in a local betting shop and since he was a regular customer the worker allowed him to keep playing thinking he would pay, he played up to 10k in my local currency but couldn't clear his debt and decided to steal the cell phone of another customer to wager and bet more, unfortunately he was caught and given the beaten of his life if not for some local authorities that came to his rescue, imagine how a young boy would had been wasted all in the name of trying to satisfy an addiction for gambling which made him to steal, that's beyond madness.

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July 23, 2023, 03:38:07 AM
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Well, i personally think every human does have some type of addiction they are battling with, the truth is that addiction does not end at being addicted to gambling, there is the..
Drug addiction
Alcohol addiction
Sex addiction
Porn addiction which also leads to being addicted to masturbation
Movie addiction
Phone addiction ETC.

All the above are different types of addictions, some people today are addicted to their smart phones without even knowing, some are addicted to watching movies and they don't even know it, so in one way or the other, every human is addicted or have a very high chance of being addicted to some thing that is totally outside or not related to gambling, and it takes great discipline to keep one away from any of those addictions.
Addiction is one of the worst scenario in gambling, it's never an easy down path in the space. It's very difficult to deal with an addict, specifically pointing towards the direction of gambling addicts. These set of individuals are ready to gamble, ready to do anything as long they profound pleasure in doing so. Furthermore, alot of individuals have been really addicted to their phones lately, they can do without their phones, they carried it even to the toilets, I'm really grateful that I don't get involved in these listed addiction, already completed to see the brighter side of the world.

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July 23, 2023, 05:55:13 AM
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you are missing one type of addiction, that is online gaming, there have been many cases in my place where school children have skipped school just to play games in internet cafes and also bet online sports (fantasy sports) there

Whatever it is, the so-called addiction will surely lead everyone to stupid things, such as cheating and the most reckless thing is robbing

I'm sure several countries also have similar cases where many school children play truant just to go to internet cafes and play online games or play gambling games.
Many school children in my country do the same but the majority here prefer to play poker from local poker apps that have fiat basis.
But sometimes there is also control carried out by the authorities and then handing over the children to their parents.

This is the beginning of the breakdown of today's young generation because they cannot think properly for every activity that is carried out.

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July 23, 2023, 07:01:07 AM
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We can't tell if how those streamers set it up, but one thing is for sure,

They are doing it to attract gamblers to use their referrals and bring more people to use the site. It will bring them viewers
plus the ref bonus that they will going to receive from the casino itself, meaning to say, whatever it is money will flow for
them, that's what matter for them and they will continue to seek for those followers to earn more.

Absolutely.

It's like when you see a celebrity sponsoring a product. They most probably have never heard about it before and they are just doing it for the money, obviously.

People tend to buy things from people they trust, that's the whole point of "brand ambassadors" and things like that. Youtubers are doing the same, but in a more niche, localized way.

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July 23, 2023, 08:51:42 AM
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you are missing one type of addiction, that is online gaming, there have been many cases in my place where school children have skipped school just to play games in internet cafes and also bet online sports (fantasy sports) there

Whatever it is, the so-called addiction will surely lead everyone to stupid things, such as cheating and the most reckless thing is robbing

I'm sure several countries also have similar cases where many school children play truant just to go to internet cafes and play online games or play gambling games.
Many school children in my country do the same but the majority here prefer to play poker from local poker apps that have fiat basis.
But sometimes there is also control carried out by the authorities and then handing over the children to their parents.

This is the beginning of the breakdown of today's young generation because they cannot think properly for every activity that is carried out.
that's how the current younger generation seems to not only apply in your country but also applies in my country, most of them start corrupt practices where their school payment money is used to play gambling so they have to lie to their parents that school payments have not been paid, this often happens in my country too because they are like addicted to gambling and end up doing things that are not good for minors to do.

It is important to teach children to stay away from gambling because of course their emotions have not really been controlled properly so it takes time to make them realize that when they eventually grow up they will regret their actions when they were young, so there will not be a good effect on their underage gambling other than committing corruption money to pay for school and skipping school.

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July 23, 2023, 09:28:00 AM
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Whatever it is, the so-called addiction will surely lead everyone to stupid things, such as cheating and the most reckless thing is robbing

Unfortunately, the most reckless thing in this case is not robbing but committing suicide. Addiction has led many people to their grave by committing suicide. Alcohol addict may end up drinking to stupor, lose his mind and do anything stupid like driving recklessly that might lead to their death. Although, in the case of gambling addict, stealing is the most thing associated with them. I have witnessed where someone attempt to steal a bike, he was caught and burnt alive. At the end of the investigation, we heard that the victim was a gamble addict and we all assume that is the reason he tried to steal just to continue with his gambling addiction. That was not a direct suicide but more or less of suicide. Addiction is very bad in every aspect because the consequences is mostly negative and harmful.

The future generations parents have a lot to do to control their children from becoming addict. The advancement of technology seem to make it difficult for them already. I watched one video yesterday where a child less than one year old is already addicted to phone and he starts crying when her mother refused to give him the phone. He operate the phone randomly, play a video and start watching with utmost concentration. I don't know if the video was scripted, edited or whatever but that's the reality coming ahead of us.

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July 23, 2023, 11:08:56 AM
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We can't tell if how those streamers set it up, but one thing is for sure,

They are doing it to attract gamblers to use their referrals and bring more people to use the site. It will bring them viewers
plus the ref bonus that they will going to receive from the casino itself, meaning to say, whatever it is money will flow for
them, that's what matter for them and they will continue to seek for those followers to earn more.
The streamers attracted many gamblers to follow them by joining them using their referrals. The bonuses received by the streamers also became large, making them promote their casino more often. And when those streamers get big with lots of followers, they might find it easier to attract gamblers who have just watched their videos because there are already lots of people joining using their referrals.

And this is why the people who join the streamer must be able to control themselves because the streamer promotes the casino, while those people join because they are interested in gambling. And if they can't control themselves, they will only lose a lot, making them sad and regret it.
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July 23, 2023, 12:55:00 PM
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We can't tell if how those streamers set it up, but one thing is for sure,

They are doing it to attract gamblers to use their referrals and bring more people to use the site. It will bring them viewers
plus the ref bonus that they will going to receive from the casino itself, meaning to say, whatever it is money will flow for
them, that's what matter for them and they will continue to seek for those followers to earn more.
The streamers attracted many gamblers to follow them by joining them using their referrals. The bonuses received by the streamers also became large, making them promote their casino more often. And when those streamers get big with lots of followers, they might find it easier to attract gamblers who have just watched their videos because there are already lots of people joining using their referrals.

And this is why the people who join the streamer must be able to control themselves because the streamer promotes the casino, while those people join because they are interested in gambling. And if they can't control themselves, they will only lose a lot, making them sad and regret it.

It looks real and deceiving a lot of people since they tend to trust someone who's popular and trying out the game which they don't know they might get paid as an marketing strategy. And that's actually true most of the streamers uses their fame to fool their followers to try on that gambling game so once they click the link posted by the streamer then that's the time where they will earn money since referrals are huge in numbers, the more you invite new players the higher the bonuses. Not only that, they could just simply have an alibi if people tell that he's scamming by just saying he was paid to promote the casino or any gambling game and act like he's not aware from it. Just don't trust anybody you should do more research if you are interested in some gambling online.

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July 23, 2023, 06:36:36 PM
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The streamers attracted many gamblers to follow them by joining them using their referrals. The bonuses received by the streamers also became large, making them promote their casino more often. And when those streamers get big with lots of followers, they might find it easier to attract gamblers who have just watched their videos because there are already lots of people joining using their referrals.

And this is why the people who join the streamer must be able to control themselves because the streamer promotes the casino, while those people join because they are interested in gambling. And if they can't control themselves, they will only lose a lot, making them sad and regret it.
Also streamers and other influencers are selling a false image of what gambling is about as they share their wins but they do not tell their audience that they were not risking their own money, and instead that money was given to them by the casino they are promoting, so they are literally gambling with free money, while anyone that watches those streams and tries to imitate them will find out they cannot get the same results as they are risking their limited capital instead.
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July 24, 2023, 04:45:26 AM
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Also streamers and other influencers are selling a false image of what gambling is about as they share their wins but they do not tell their audience that they were not risking their own money, and instead that money was given to them by the casino they are promoting, so they are literally gambling with free money, while anyone that watches those streams and tries to imitate them will find out they cannot get the same results as they are risking their limited capital instead.

Yeah, I think that always has been the case with gamblers, now they are just doing the same online to try to get some money by promoting the casinos.

Most of the time you hear about the time someone won something, very rarely you will hear about the other times they ended up losing, which usually accounts for more than what they won.

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July 24, 2023, 04:22:09 PM
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It looks real and deceiving a lot of people since they tend to trust someone who's popular and trying out the game which they don't know they might get paid as an marketing strategy. And that's actually true most of the streamers uses their fame to fool their followers to try on that gambling game so once they click the link posted by the streamer then that's the time where they will earn money since referrals are huge in numbers, the more you invite new players the higher the bonuses. Not only that, they could just simply have an alibi if people tell that he's scamming by just saying he was paid to promote the casino or any gambling game and act like he's not aware from it. Just don't trust anybody you should do more research if you are interested in some gambling online.
People might trust streamers who already have a lot of followers because having many followers makes their reputation higher than other streamers. And that's what makes streamers able to have more people join using their referral link and easily share their referral link even with people who enter their channel. That's why we shouldn't immediately believe what the streamer says and look for more information before joining, rather than later regretting that we have chosen the wrong casino and causing us to experience prolonged stress.

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Also streamers and other influencers are selling a false image of what gambling is about as they share their wins but they do not tell their audience that they were not risking their own money, and instead that money was given to them by the casino they are promoting, so they are literally gambling with free money, while anyone that watches those streams and tries to imitate them will find out they cannot get the same results as they are risking their limited capital instead.
We will not know whether the winning was real or whether they got it from another party who could make their followers believe and follow them to play on the casino site. But with his many followers who always watch his videos, some people will gamble based on what they see. And often, these people also want big wins like the streamer they watch. But sadly, it's just too hard for them, and if they manage to win some money, it's because luck comes to their aid. Otherwise, they would only lose a lot of money.
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