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July 24, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
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Most of the time you hear about the time someone won something, very rarely you will hear about the other times they ended up losing, which usually accounts for more than what they won.

You're right, people will only tells you the most interesting aspects of their stories by taking away the difficulty they experienced althrough the process, but i don't know maybe they usually do that to entice others or to push them into having same experience they've been through, i see it that after having both experience on the good and the bad, it is also expected that we take our personal decision base on the level of research we did, people are loosing in gambling but it will not be noised but when they eventually win luckily, the whole gist got aired.

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July 24, 2023, 07:25:57 PM
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Whatever it is, the so-called addiction will surely lead everyone to stupid things, such as cheating and the most reckless thing is robbing

Unfortunately, the most reckless thing in this case is not robbing but committing suicide. Addiction has led many people to their grave by committing suicide. Alcohol addict may end up drinking to stupor, lose his mind and do anything stupid like driving recklessly that might lead to their death. Although, in the case of gambling addict, stealing is the most thing associated with them. I have witnessed where someone attempt to steal a bike, he was caught and burnt alive. At the end of the investigation, we heard that the victim was a gamble addict and we all assume that is the reason he tried to steal just to continue with his gambling addiction. That was not a direct suicide but more or less of suicide. Addiction is very bad in every aspect because the consequences is mostly negative and harmful.

The future generations parents have a lot to do to control their children from becoming addict. The advancement of technology seem to make it difficult for them already. I watched one video yesterday where a child less than one year old is already addicted to phone and he starts crying when her mother refused to give him the phone. He operate the phone randomly, play a video and start watching with utmost concentration. I don't know if the video was scripted, edited or whatever but that's the reality coming ahead of us.
Well, as the saying goes, "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." As much as your stories are bone-chilling, they provide a good reason for us to gloat over our wise life choices.

You're talking about addiction as a result of personal failures, but let me introduce you to another perspective. Take a moment to appreciate how adept the human brain is at acquiring skills (like the kid operating a phone), albeit not always beneficial ones.

Still, tech addiction, really? Are we just gonna ignore all the marvels that technology has provided us? Without technology, we wouldnt be having this enlightened chat here, would we? Its all about how we use it, mate. Lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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July 24, 2023, 07:38:28 PM
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Unfortunately, the most reckless thing in this case is not robbing but committing suicide. Addiction has led many people to their grave by committing suicide. Alcohol addict may end up drinking to stupor, lose his mind and do anything stupid like driving recklessly that might lead to their death. Although, in the case of gambling addict, stealing is the most thing associated with them. I have witnessed where someone attempt to steal a bike, he was caught and burnt alive. At the end of the investigation, we heard that the victim was a gamble addict and we all assume that is the reason he tried to steal just to continue with his gambling addiction. That was not a direct suicide but more or less of suicide. Addiction is very bad in every aspect because the consequences is mostly negative and harmful.
You are describing any addiction that takes lots of money, drug addicts are way more famous for stealing.

The future generations parents have a lot to do to control their children from becoming addict. The advancement of technology seem to make it difficult for them already. I watched one video yesterday where a child less than one year old is already addicted to phone and he starts crying when her mother refused to give him the phone. He operate the phone randomly, play a video and start watching with utmost concentration. I don't know if the video was scripted, edited or whatever but that's the reality coming ahead of us.
Those parents just have to do parenting. Not everyone wants to do that and blame tech or their childrens for addiction they are themselves creating by allowing too much unsupervised screen time. Some parents will allow their childrens to watch screens all the time because that keeps them quiet. And cutting that out for no apparent reason to child will be hard after they are addicted.

Addiction is never kids own fault as they are not responsible adults. And i don't need to mention gambling addiction isn't something that should affect to kids as they shouldn't be allowed to gamble in the first place.

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July 25, 2023, 06:50:29 AM
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You're right, people will only tells you the most interesting aspects of their stories by taking away the difficulty they experienced althrough the process, but i don't know maybe they usually do that to entice others or to push them into having same experience they've been through, i see it that after having both experience on the good and the bad, it is also expected that we take our personal decision base on the level of research we did, people are loosing in gambling but it will not be noised but when they eventually win luckily, the whole gist got aired.

That's right, I think it's mostly because lots of people don't really care about the hard work, or what happened behind the scenes, they just want to hear about the current winner, millionaires, successful people.

They're not interested in the day to day grind, the huge effort these people make. That's not attractive to most people because they realize they need actual work to get the benefits. It's a culture of wanting quick returns, and fast results, with no effort. Gambling is huge partly because of this. "Click a button and you can be a millionaire"

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July 25, 2023, 12:53:25 PM
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A professional will not say they are a professional gambler, but it may show how they say something or words. Also, if you watch from Youtube, I think a "professional" can trick you into providing a well-arranged video to make him look like a professional gambler.

A streamer who wants to make money from YouTube videos will invite people to join but no further explanation from him. And unfortunately, the invitation from the streamer was taken too seriously by the people who watched it, so they finally joined and spent money on gambling.

Come on man, anyone asking people on youtube to join anything means that they are playing you...

Why on earth would you think some random person will take their time to create a video so that random people that person has never met will make money?

Come on man...

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usually youtubers have to disclose if they're doing paid promotions and youtube interface includes an option to mark there so they overlay a small sign in the video that says something like "includes paid promotion" but the truth is most of the youtubers don't do it

specially if the activity is a bit more shady or forbidden according to youtube guidelines for publicity.

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Debt as a result of "Online" Gambling, a Youth from Indonesia (Country That Failed to Eradicate Online Gambling)

tried to end his life by drinking soklin floor

News like this will continue to appear in various regions, gambling to make money is not a wrong thought but being too greedy to win big money at gambling often makes you addicted to gambling, if you commit suicide like this because you are in debt due to gambling what about your family who loves you at home? do you not think about their feelings?

stop being someone who can't control your emotions and short-minded, the future is still very long, death will only trouble yourself and others.

I watched the video on twitter. It’s a good thing whatever he had consumed didn’t claim his life but he should have been taken to the hospital asap instead of allowing him lay there. He doesn’t look good.

Sadly, you’re right. News like this would continue to appear all over. People with irresponsible behaviors would in a bid to gamble more and in the process become reckless, take out loans from loan sharks cause no reputable financial institution would lend money out for the purpose of gambling. That’s where loan sharks come in. They’ve got money to lend when no one would seemingly lend you.

I think I could understand a little how pressured one may feel to go to the extent of taking his own life. In a lot of cases, suicide wouldn’t automatically clear the debt taken from a loan shark. The family of the deceased would sometimes be pressured to pay up the loan. A person under the heavy pressure of owing huge debts to unsavory people perhaps along with gambling addiction would think taking him out of the picture would solve everything. In a lot of cases, it doesn’t.
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We certainly don't know how the streamer plays gambling. Either he uses his own account or uses someone else's account or even the casino provides an account for him so he can stream his gambling games. We only know based on what we see and what they do. And that was enough for them to entice people to join and even use their referral link. And those of us who watch it shouldn't easily follow what they say, and if we want to join a casino, it's best to find a trusted casino and don't follow the streamer if you don't know him well.

You should always do your research, even if the streamer advertises a reliable and honest casino. The problem may be that, for example, he is from country A, in which the advertised casino has no problems, and you are from country B, in which the casino has problems/restrictions for citizens of this country. Thus, if you do not check the compliance of the casino just for you, you can get into an unpleasant situation.

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July 25, 2023, 02:07:52 PM
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Most of the time you hear about the time someone won something, very rarely you will hear about the other times they ended up losing, which usually accounts for more than what they won.

You're right, people will only tells you the most interesting aspects of their stories by taking away the difficulty they experienced althrough the process, but i don't know maybe they usually do that to entice others or to push them into having same experience they've been through, i see it that after having both experience on the good and the bad, it is also expected that we take our personal decision base on the level of research we did, people are loosing in gambling but it will not be noised but when they eventually win luckily, the whole gist got aired.

That's a good point people should keep in mind when judging others and their success in gambling. Just because someone won big today doesn't mean that he is a successful gambler. People tend to overstate their own success and understate their loses. It's normal for humans to brag about their accomplishments, but when this happens to often it might already be a sign of an addiction. Not being honest about how much money we spend in the casino and how much we are losing is not good. Lying to strangers is one thing, but when we keep our losses hidden from friends and family than can lead to big problems. Only sharing our success stories creates more pressure to try and make big profits. I would recommend anybody to try and stay truthful, don't try to project an image of yourself that's not you and that you can't keep up in the long run.

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Gambling addiction is the worst thing an individual can ever pass through,it is a phase of life that is hard to overcome,and this phase of life is encompassed with emotional hallucination, emotional trauma, and depression,and the moment one gets to the stage of depression,there is every tendency that the individual might commit suicide and die because at that state,he has seen himself as an empty vessel,and someone who is worthless.Their life no longer become important to them,and all this are narrowed down to the very first day they started gambling.It will always remain in their memory,its a day they won't ever forget in their life,and the person that lured them into it will always be blamed.So many  marriages have broken because of addiction which I sometime link it to a spiritual spell,and it's only God that can deliver them from it.Its like drug addiction,if they don't take,they won't rest.So many are passing through this,and there is no remedy to it.What can possibly be a way out if this?

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Most of the time you hear about the time someone won something, very rarely you will hear about the other times they ended up losing, which usually accounts for more than what they won.

You're right, people will only tells you the most interesting aspects of their stories by taking away the difficulty they experienced althrough the process, but i don't know maybe they usually do that to entice others or to push them into having same experience they've been through, i see it that after having both experience on the good and the bad, it is also expected that we take our personal decision base on the level of research we did, people are loosing in gambling but it will not be noised but when they eventually win luckily, the whole gist got aired.

Funny, but that's true. If you lose a lot, no one cares aside from those people who are close and related to you.

But if you win a lot, almost everyone has that knowledge about it and for some reason those people will also try to ask something
and relating that to the topic, gambling addicted person always pretend or mostly pretend that they can win and wanted to have that
impression but the reality, they already doing things that are no longer usual just to have money to continue playing.
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I watched the video on twitter. It’s a good thing whatever he had consumed didn’t claim his life but he should have been taken to the hospital asap instead of allowing him lay there. He doesn’t look good.

Sadly, you’re right. News like this would continue to appear all over. People with irresponsible behaviors would in a bid to gamble more and in the process become reckless, take out loans from loan sharks cause no reputable financial institution would lend money out for the purpose of gambling. That’s where loan sharks come in. They’ve got money to lend when no one would seemingly lend you.

I think I could understand a little how pressured one may feel to go to the extent of taking his own life. In a lot of cases, suicide wouldn’t automatically clear the debt taken from a loan shark. The family of the deceased would sometimes be pressured to pay up the loan. A person under the heavy pressure of owing huge debts to unsavory people perhaps along with gambling addiction would think taking him out of the picture would solve everything. In a lot of cases, it doesn’t.

when you borrow money from loan sharks, will your debt be erased by death, of course the answer is no, loan sharks will continue to charge your family even though you are buried in the ground so don't ever borrow money from loan sharks for anything including gambling, it will only make it more difficult for yourself and your family.

but often human stupidity exceeds their common sense, they run out of capital when gambling and moneylenders look like saviors for them even though moneylenders are the ones who ruin their future, hopefully stupidity like this can decrease every year.



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July 25, 2023, 11:30:06 PM
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Most of the time you hear about the time someone won something, very rarely you will hear about the other times they ended up losing, which usually accounts for more than what they won.

You're right, people will only tells you the most interesting aspects of their stories by taking away the difficulty they experienced althrough the process, but i don't know maybe they usually do that to entice others or to push them into having same experience they've been through, i see it that after having both experience on the good and the bad, it is also expected that we take our personal decision base on the level of research we did, people are loosing in gambling but it will not be noised but when they eventually win luckily, the whole gist got aired.

Funny, but that's true. If you lose a lot, no one cares aside from those people who are close and related to you.

But if you win a lot, almost everyone has that knowledge about it and for some reason those people will also try to ask something
and relating that to the topic, gambling addicted person always pretend or mostly pretend that they can win and wanted to have that
impression but the reality, they already doing things that are no longer usual just to have money to continue playing.
This is the reality on which you would really be having lots of friends on the time that you would really be that a winner or having tons of money but on the time that you are on the floor then for sure you would definitely
finding yourself  to be alone and its true that the only ones who would really be at your side on which your family and loved ones who are really that concern about your status or condition but those friends that you have
known when you are still profitable are now gone and wont really be taking a look back at you which it is really that the sad part. This is why its better to be sensible on whatever things that you would really be encountering
specially on gambling space and only spent on the amount which you can afford to lose because if you arent that mindful about this stuff then for sure you would really be having that huge losses in terms of finances
on which this is something that cant really be avoided if you are really that eager on playing gambling in the first place.

On the time that you would be making  yourself that addicted, getting out or getting rid of it would really be the toughest challenge of all on which majority would really be messing up their
life and wasnt able to recover until they would be able to make realizations but its already that too late.

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This is the reality on which you would really be having lots of friends on the time that you would really be that a winner or having tons of money but on the time that you are on the floor then for sure you would definitely
finding yourself  to be alone and its true that the only ones who would really be at your side on which your family and loved ones who are really that concern about your status or condition but those friends that you have
known when you are still profitable are now gone and wont really be taking a look back at you which it is really that the sad part. This is why its better to be sensible on whatever things that you would really be encountering
specially on gambling space and only spent on the amount which you can afford to lose because if you arent that mindful about this stuff then for sure you would really be having that huge losses in terms of finances
on which this is something that cant really be avoided if you are really that eager on playing gambling in the first place.

On the time that you would be making  yourself that addicted, getting out or getting rid of it would really be the toughest challenge of all on which majority would really be messing up their
life and wasnt able to recover until they would be able to make realizations but its already that too late.

Yeah, this is the harsh truth.

When you are winning money, everyone is right next to you trying to get something out of you. The moment you are out of money, you will soon be out of people around you as well.

Now, I wouldn't call those people "friends", they are just opportunistic, but that's just how most people are, no blaming on them. It's all on the gambler. Every person makes their own life, and they make the decisions and get the outcomes based on those decisions.

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July 26, 2023, 12:34:22 PM
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You should always do your research, even if the streamer advertises a reliable and honest casino. The problem may be that, for example, he is from country A, in which the advertised casino has no problems, and you are from country B, in which the casino has problems/restrictions for citizens of this country. Thus, if you do not check the compliance of the casino just for you, you can get into an unpleasant situation.
That's right because only research can save us from dishonest or untrusted casinos. And we also won't go wrong in choosing the casino even though the streamer advises us to follow what he is doing. These streamers can provide videos showing their big wins at certain casinos, but we shouldn't be tempted to follow them and have to look for more information to find out the casino details. We have to make sure where we play gambling and choose the casino and not from suggestions from other people because after all, it's just a suggestion that we can accept or reject if it doesn't match what we expect.
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Gambling addiction is the worst thing an individual can ever pass through,it is a phase of life that is hard to overcome,and this phase of life is encompassed with emotional hallucination, emotional trauma, and depression,and the moment one gets to the stage of depression,there is every tendency that the individual might commit suicide and die because at that state,he has seen himself as an empty vessel,and someone who is worthless.Their life no longer become important to them,and all this are narrowed down to the very first day they started gambling.It will always remain in their memory,its a day they won't ever forget in their life,and the person that lured them into it will always be blamed.So many  marriages have broken because of addiction which I sometime link it to a spiritual spell,and it's only God that can deliver them from it.Its like drug addiction,if they don't take,they won't rest.So many are passing through this,and there is no remedy to it.What can possibly be a way out if this?

If we refer to the word "addiction", there are many meanings of addiction. without even realizing it, if we also have the potential to be addicted to something. whether it's work, whether it's food, it can also be drugs, even as the theme of the discussion we are addicted to gambling. for me, the word "opium" is very familiar to our lives as humans. however, because the theme of our discussion is the madness of gambling addicts. actually, not much different from other types of addiction. which in essence, addiction is a condition that makes a person lose control of something. usually, it refers to liking too much and being driven by a strong desire or fondness for something.

Refer to what you say, if someone is as addicted as you say. these conditions, we can say that they are very acute addicts. well, what you are saying is only a small part of addicts who do stupid things even to the point of ending their lives. In fact, as human beings, we are blessed with reason and thought. therefore, in order to avoid what you mentioned in this post. a person must be very aware of what he is doing, including in gambling. in fact, to prevent this, gamblers must fully understand the essence of gambling itself.

That in essence, gambling is a form of entertainment in today's modern era. you can have fun with it, without having to always get the victory you want. gamble, according to what you can afford. if you want to earn income, then the answer is work. if you want to be rich, then do business. if you want to have fun and spend a few bucks with it, you can express it in gambling. the point is, don't think too much and hope for something that will make things difficult for yourself later.

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.
The second and third seems just in place but the first isn't what should only apply to gambling itself but to life in its entire.
I don't see or haven't sensed gambling to be persuasive in any way to require of its customers or gamblers a life of crime but rather, encourage gamblers to gamble responsibly.
This very much places your fate and evaluation of capacity in your hands to draw the lines and recognise when your crossing your limits.

The life of crime and gambling a different world that could be drawn by the other but, its often about the individual than gambling itself. If you ain't responsible, it wouldn't be the best of ideas to expect of you any form of ownership of your actions but rather, look for places to site blames and gambling seems like a perfect spot.

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The term professional simply means that you get paid for what you are doing. Otherwise it's a hobby.

So, a professional gambler is extremely rare. Only a handful of people have actually won money against the casino overall, once you count all the costs.

It's extremely rare, but it can happen.

Now, a lot of people just call themselves professional gamblers, but I think that's just part of the addiction.
The distinction between a profession and a hobby is not as straightforward as it may seem.

A hobby is an enjoyable activity for an individual, regardless of whether it brings financial gain or not.

On the other hand, a professional is someone with specialized skills who must adhere to established procedures, and often, they engage in their work for monetary purposes.

When it comes to wealthy individuals and gambling, it's difficult to discern their true intentions. Their acting skills are remarkable, and it's no wonder that many people are deceived by their poker face.

A professional gambler, however, is someone who can maintain composure even when playing with significant sums. Despite facing losses, a professional gambler must remain mature and avoid creating a tense atmosphere.

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These days I have been wondering whether people with problems of gambling addiction also can get psyquiatric help rather than only appointments with a psychologist.
In the case of depression, anxiety and even insomnia, we all know that some prescription medicine can help to relieve the symptoms. There must be some drugs which could allow problem gamblers to curb the anxiety for playing in casinos, even when they know they have a problem.

I have never heard of it, so to this day I have assumed they only can receive therapy, which sounds rather hard to them, keeping in mind of far these addictions can go.

Have anyone heard about it, drugs for people who are in such position?

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July 26, 2023, 10:34:51 PM
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These days I have been wondering whether people with problems of gambling addiction also can get psyquiatric help rather than only appointments with a psychologist.
In the case of depression, anxiety and even insomnia, we all know that some prescription medicine can help to relieve the symptoms. There must be some drugs which could allow problem gamblers to curb the anxiety for playing in casinos, even when they know they have a problem.

I have never heard of it, so to this day I have assumed they only can receive therapy, which sounds rather hard to them, keeping in mind of far these addictions can go.

Have anyone heard about it, drugs for people who are in such position?
Well, possibly there could be some drugs out there for some other type of addiction, though I've never heard of any myself, but coming back to drugs for gambling addiction in particular, I've also never heard of such and I don't it exists, from all that i know, being addicted to gambling is not a sickness, and neither does it qualify to be referred to as a malfunction in the brain, so its clearly nothing that will require the help of a psychiatrist.
Being addicted to gambling is more of a behavioral disorder, all I think is required is a good psychologist who can help bring the gambling addict back to their normal self again by going into their brain to reconfigure every behaviors that have formed in there and not wanted.

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July 26, 2023, 11:18:11 PM
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These days I have been wondering whether people with problems of gambling addiction also can get psyquiatric help rather than only appointments with a psychologist.
In the case of depression, anxiety and even insomnia, we all know that some prescription medicine can help to relieve the symptoms. There must be some drugs which could allow problem gamblers to curb the anxiety for playing in casinos, even when they know they have a problem.

I have never heard of it, so to this day I have assumed they only can receive therapy, which sounds rather hard to them, keeping in mind of far these addictions can go.

Have anyone heard about it, drugs for people who are in such position?
Well, possibly there could be some drugs out there for some other type of addiction, though I've never heard of any myself, but coming back to drugs for gambling addiction in particular, I've also never heard of such and I don't it exists, from all that i know, being addicted to gambling is not a sickness, and neither does it qualify to be referred to as a malfunction in the brain, so its clearly nothing that will require the help of a psychiatrist.
Being addicted to gambling is more of a behavioral disorder, all I think is required is a good psychologist who can help bring the gambling addict back to their normal self again by going into their brain to reconfigure every behaviors that have formed in there and not wanted.

It makes sense the professional ones in the matter would rather qualify gambling addiction as a behavioral disorder over a mood disorder, but keeping in mind that addictions like this one are possible because some disbalance within the brain, I thought it could be possible to help people through drug administration and supplement the behavioral corrections a psychologist could provide.

It would be a similar approach psychologist and psychiatrists have to treat other illnesses.

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