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May 02, 2023, 12:31:31 PM
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But also those people who has work like 8 - 5 jobs which after their work they usually goes to casino and gamble meaning if they do it on daily basis without a miss for sure it can lead to addiction. That is why it is better to have an hobby like sports which it will divert your attention to others than doing gambling
For me working from 8AM to 5PM is really make me tired because I've spend most of my time on my jobs, I only feel free during weekend where I have more spare time to gamble, travelling, shopping or do anything I like. I only gamble for short time during work days because I need to have time with my family especially play with my kids during their golden ages. If someone who have been married and can gamble everyday, seems like he has a problem about gambling addiction.

That is also what I noticed about my coworkers in my previous job: either they will go to the arena for cockfighting or they will go to other places to get drunk. I feel that they are not tired of doing it, no matter how busy the work is. Even I can't do it, as I want to rest after the work unless it is not a busy day on which I still have spare energy. Though I wouldn't say that they are addicted, as they can still control themselves, it is just part of their daily routine to do it.

Perhaps your coworkers find joy in gambling as their hobby or past time every time after work. As long as they are responsible and do everything well in your workplace, then it's all good. Time, money, effort, and of course funds, are essential in gambling. If they have enough spare of those and doesn't bypass their other duties and tasks as a family member, friend, workmate, and the likes, then we shouldn't intervene. But if it's the otherwise, we could give a feedback and a caring opinion.
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May 02, 2023, 02:03:51 PM
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I noticed that the number of rehab facilities seem to grow over the last few tears, or at least the advertising from them. These days there seem to be special rehab programs for all types of addictions. It's a good thing as people also seem to be more willing to seek help and try to change their situation. The difference between a drug, alcohol or gambling addiction is, that in the latter case you are likely to use much more of your money. In severe cases you might even gamble away all your savings before realising that you need help. So it might be much harder for a gambling addict to afford rehab. Hopefully there is special assistance programs in place for the most serious cases. Personally I have managed to stay clear of a gambling addiction, even though I already gamble for many years. This might be due to the strict rules I put on myself, with the most important one being to have a fixed gambling budget for every week or month. Having a hard cap on my bankroll helped to not chase losses, which usually leads to even larger losses.
Though I'm not sure, I believe there are rehab centers or at least programs that help gambling addicts get a grasp on their addiction and slowly recover from it since some of the cases as you mentioned get so severe that they even gamble away their possessions, not just money. In very rare cases, people gamble on their houses and properties as well.

But when it comes to help, a rehab center or a helping hand can only be helpful if a person who is addicted admits that they have got this problem and that they want to get rid of it. If a person doesn't accept it or doesn't want any help, no one can really do anything.

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May 02, 2023, 09:16:24 PM
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You know, the obscenities and severities at which these  gambling addicts have been going through is noticeabky becoming more and more deranged as time passes by. Way back then you wouldn't see a kidnapper asking for ransom so he could fund his addiction to gambling, let alone from a relative and your granddaughter out of all people. You're a special kind of a mentally-ill person to even think of going through such length, all because uou wanted more money to gamble with.

This is why intervention both from the family that the gambler is with, as well as the casino in which they play in should be imposed and integrated. Make sure ko one gets addicted to gambling by imposing daily thresholds on uow mucj or how long can they gamble and stay within the casino. Once they reached that, they're kicked out and banned for the day.

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May 02, 2023, 09:33:06 PM
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I still see this as another over-hyped way of regarding motivational quotes about how successful anyone could be(cus most would think they could make it out with gambling....well anyways, that's somewhat possible) ....and the pre-knowledge that The consistency in doing a particular thing would rather yield something good...  Peeps don't even understand that it ain't applicable in every aspect of life  -- there are things you only need to engage in just for the fact that you know about its most probable authenticity,...not because it's actually working perfectly.
Gambling shouldn't push anyone into doing the undoable, just to be sure it cuts at the end of the day.... If your losses are bigger at the time, STOP LOSS by closing up the sight....it's that simple!

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May 02, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
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But also those people who has work like 8 - 5 jobs which after their work they usually goes to casino and gamble meaning if they do it on daily basis without a miss for sure it can lead to addiction. That is why it is better to have an hobby like sports which it will divert your attention to others than doing gambling
For me working from 8AM to 5PM is really make me tired because I've spend most of my time on my jobs, I only feel free during weekend where I have more spare time to gamble, travelling, shopping or do anything I like. I only gamble for short time during work days because I need to have time with my family especially play with my kids during their golden ages. If someone who have been married and can gamble everyday, seems like he has a problem about gambling addiction.

That is also what I noticed about my coworkers in my previous job: either they will go to the arena for cockfighting or they will go to other places to get drunk. I feel that they are not tired of doing it, no matter how busy the work is. Even I can't do it, as I want to rest after the work unless it is not a busy day on which I still have spare energy. Though I wouldn't say that they are addicted, as they can still control themselves, it is just part of their daily routine to do it.

Perhaps your coworkers find joy in gambling as their hobby or past time every time after work. As long as they are responsible and do everything well in your workplace, then it's all good. Time, money, effort, and of course funds, are essential in gambling. If they have enough spare of those and doesn't bypass their other duties and tasks as a family member, friend, workmate, and the likes, then we shouldn't intervene. But if it's the otherwise, we could give a feedback and a caring opinion.
As long you are aware with your actions
As long you would really be that responsible
As long you do know on how to handle your finances

Then you should really be fine. You cant really be finding yourself to be addicted on gambling anytime soon no matter how long you would be engaging into it.
Most errors or mistakes on which a certain person is on the time that they would be passing out on their senses on doing the right thing. They would really be just simply be
focusing on what they are currently dealing despite on having a hug losses already.

You wouldnt really be getting addicted if you are rally just having those border lines or boundaries or simply limits in towards self on everything you are dealing with.

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May 03, 2023, 01:43:46 AM
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it's crucial to approach gambling responsibly and with caution.
Keep in mind that gambling should be viewed as some stuff you do for fun, not a way to avoid responsibilities or even as a source of your bread and butter

Not all gambling addicts saw gambling as a source of income. Some started out as a fun thing too like most of us. It started as something they enjoyed and did in their spare time, especially those with deep pockets. They didn't see it as a source of income or as a way to hit it big.
I believe it's a process. They start cautiously, then start going in deeper and deeper, till they get to a stage where they can't pull themselves out anymore. I guess it's the same way with every other addiction, I may be wrong but till proven otherwise, that's how I see it.
So it's not only people that see gamble as a source of income that should be careful, but even those of us that see it as a fun thing too should be careful lest we fall in too deep.


I get your point and that's reality. Some start gambling to enjoy,

But because they are not ready with the excitement that they've got, they failed to control and they engage too much, most of the time,
without the right control, addictions grow.

After getting engage there are lots of things that you can do without thinking well, things that will add the bad things that you
may do, since you are already engaged and you are already out of control with your gambling addictions.
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May 03, 2023, 01:59:54 AM
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it's crucial to approach gambling responsibly and with caution.
Keep in mind that gambling should be viewed as some stuff you do for fun, not a way to avoid responsibilities or even as a source of your bread and butter

Not all gambling addicts saw gambling as a source of income. Some started out as a fun thing too like most of us. It started as something they enjoyed and did in their spare time, especially those with deep pockets. They didn't see it as a source of income or as a way to hit it big.
I believe it's a process. They start cautiously, then start going in deeper and deeper, till they get to a stage where they can't pull themselves out anymore. I guess it's the same way with every other addiction, I may be wrong but till proven otherwise, that's how I see it.
So it's not only people that see gamble as a source of income that should be careful, but even those of us that see it as a fun thing too should be careful lest we fall in too deep.


I get your point and that's reality. Some start gambling to enjoy,

But because they are not ready with the excitement that they've got, they failed to control and they engage too much, most of the time,
without the right control, addictions grow.

After getting engage there are lots of things that you can do without thinking well, things that will add the bad things that you
may do, since you are already engaged and you are already out of control with your gambling addictions.
But there are gamblers that are smart enough in the beginning, they know that there is a chance that they can fall to the category of addicts. And yet, despite people having college degrees and have good education, they still failed to control their emotions and then it's going to be late because they have been addicted already.

So even if we start gambling to enjoy and think that we have  total control of ourselves, majority are going to be addicted. We've seen in before, perhaps even worst by the news that the OP shared, individual lose everything they had in gambling and do things that is beyond belief and it's hard to explain why they do it except that they are addicted and their minds are not that normal.

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May 03, 2023, 02:28:05 AM
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I am always surprised when old people are desperate. At that old age I guess you have nothing left other than family to enjoy yourself. Financial issues are getting resolved anyways if you worked hard you know. Gambling addiction can hit people who have no job, no money, noone to support their life to experience fun etc. I always people who are prone to addictions to spend their free time with hobby. Making music, writing, watching cinema or even dancing can work a lot to solve addiction issues.
Addition is really a serious issue and its not as easy as you say it to actually stop this act. Gambling addiction grows with you till even your old age because its like a leech that is stuck with someone and only proper management can slow this addiction down and once its properly managed then before you can resolved to finding a way to actually stop this act and it needs to be handle at the early stages if not like you said you will end up selling most of your valuable things and end up useless and worthless at your old age.
That is why each job requires adequate education. I think gambling also needs education. Those who learn that will be able to control themselves to some extent. Moreover, nowadays gambling can be done so safely that even the person next door will not know anything. If people who are addicted to gambling cannot control themselves, they will continue to gamble until they lose everything. In this situation a gambler should know few rules of gambling and also there are many ways how to protect oneself from addiction. Long-term gambling can be enjoyed if one can manage controlled gambling otherwise everything will be lost.

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May 03, 2023, 05:45:46 AM
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For me working from 8AM to 5PM is really make me tired because I've spend most of my time on my jobs, I only feel free during weekend where I have more spare time to gamble, travelling, shopping or do anything I like. I only gamble for short time during work days because I need to have time with my family especially play with my kids during their golden ages. If someone who have been married and can gamble everyday, seems like he has a problem about gambling addiction.
That is also what I noticed about my coworkers in my previous job: either they will go to the arena for cockfighting or they will go to other places to get drunk. I feel that they are not tired of doing it, no matter how busy the work is. Even I can't do it, as I want to rest after the work unless it is not a busy day on which I still have spare energy. Though I wouldn't say that they are addicted, as they can still control themselves, it is just part of their daily routine to do it.
There are responsible gamblers as well who don't let gambling get over their emotions and make them spend every dime on it. If your friends are working, taking care of their families, not having mental stress, and are able to do it every day and are happy to do it, I don't see any problem with that since all these signs show that they are responsible gamblers.

If they are not doing everything right, then that probably is a problem for them and they need to stop doing it. I wouldn't mind gambling every day if I know that I have a dedicated budget for it that won't affect any other thing in my life and I can enjoy my time with it.

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May 03, 2023, 07:17:52 AM
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To prevent gambling addiction one must first learn to control oneself because it completely depends on the person himself. The young generation is attracted to various gambling sites out of curiosity to become unemployed. Starting from the investment of 5-10 thousand taka, getting greedy and losing lakhs of taka is making their life more miserable. Instead of this habit, you have to prepare yourself by analyzing the harmful effects and symptoms or the reasons behind it at least I have come to this decision myself I want to quit gambling. I want to get rid of gambling as the demand is at a level where self restraint is difficult, it is necessary to seek the help of a professional or professionals.
Gamblers who cannot control themselves will definitely lose a lot of money as well as assets because basically there is no gambling that can be won unless they manage to control themselves, cases like this are common in heavy addicts so they can commit crimes to achieve their need for gambling. I will never invite anyone to gamble, either friends or relatives, because I don't want to harm other people either.

The dangers of gambling when we play cannot control ourselves let alone other people. I will worry that it can ruin many other people's lives. You should stay away from gambling if you cannot control yourself properly because it is important to avoid losing a lot of money and assets, especially your family.
Thats not all, some gamblers turned criminals after gambling and losing some money, they forcefully take from others, even friends and families, and they also do not have a conscience anymore, that's why they don't see anything wrong in hurting other people because they want to get back all they lost.

A youth from my local area sold his father's house without the father knowing and the buyer took over the house and gave order to the father to vacate the premises that he built himself, this child is a known addictive gambler and everybody was shocked that he could pull off this evil plan on his father. Nobody knew he could be this desperate.

If you have any family member that's become addictive to gambling, you as the family member is not safe either, a gambling addict who have no other means to get money can easily go after the family to get more money, some will beg and some will go extra miles, sometimes gambling looks evil but I believe lack of discipline and self respect is why many turned this way.

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May 03, 2023, 08:26:57 AM
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For me working from 8AM to 5PM is really make me tired because I've spend most of my time on my jobs, I only feel free during weekend where I have more spare time to gamble, travelling, shopping or do anything I like. I only gamble for short time during work days because I need to have time with my family especially play with my kids during their golden ages. If someone who have been married and can gamble everyday, seems like he has a problem about gambling addiction.
That is also what I noticed about my coworkers in my previous job: either they will go to the arena for cockfighting or they will go to other places to get drunk. I feel that they are not tired of doing it, no matter how busy the work is. Even I can't do it, as I want to rest after the work unless it is not a busy day on which I still have spare energy. Though I wouldn't say that they are addicted, as they can still control themselves, it is just part of their daily routine to do it.
There are responsible gamblers as well who don't let gambling get over their emotions and make them spend every dime on it. If your friends are working, taking care of their families, not having mental stress, and are able to do it every day and are happy to do it, I don't see any problem with that since all these signs show that they are responsible gamblers.

If they are not doing everything right, then that probably is a problem for them and they need to stop doing it. I wouldn't mind gambling every day if I know that I have a dedicated budget for it that won't affect any other thing in my life and I can enjoy my time with it.
It doesn't matter even you gamble everyday as long as in moderation, and the money that you're spending are meant for leisure. I'm working 8 hours a day too but I can't gamble frequently because aside from i'm busy at work, my money is also limited to use for gambling. I can only gamble every weekend and when I already set aside a money meant for my leisure during payday, it's also my way to discipline myself.

If you're a gambling addict you'll do everything to sustain your addiction because you're uncontrollable. So it's not surprising if an addict can do a criminal act just to continue what he used to. The story in op is one of the example of what an addict can do. Clearly he has a serious problem that needs immediate attention.

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To the family, its gonna be harder to forgive the old man kidnapping his own blood to satisfy his addiction. The man disregards everyone in the family but himself.

Asians have different culture which they have a strong family bond and they respect the elders. But this is too much. This might not be his first offense so there could be petty crime he did in the past too which his family had ignored.


No, I mean why didn't the family prevent it before everything happened. Before that event happened I thought some strange behavior would be shown. Gambling addiction is also something that the family should remind and continue to advise. And when something like this happens, who is to blame? old man turned into a monster by his addiction? I don't think so, because he clearly can't control himself anymore, and it is the duty of those closest to him to be able to pay attention to his behavior.

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May 03, 2023, 02:46:39 PM
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No, I mean why didn't the family prevent it before everything happened. Before that event happened I thought some strange behavior would be shown. Gambling addiction is also something that the family should remind and continue to advise. And when something like this happens, who is to blame? old man turned into a monster by his addiction? I don't think so, because he clearly can't control himself anymore, and it is the duty of those closest to him to be able to pay attention to his behavior.
It's because the family doesn't know if their son is a gambler, how they can stop the gambling addiction when they don't know if their son is a gambler in the first place. However I've know some family have stop their son to stop gamble, but it's not worked because the addiction is really control his mind. When it's happen, it's better for a professional to take care about it.

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May 03, 2023, 06:10:59 PM
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No, I mean why didn't the family prevent it before everything happened. Before that event happened I thought some strange behavior would be shown. Gambling addiction is also something that the family should remind and continue to advise. And when something like this happens, who is to blame? old man turned into a monster by his addiction? I don't think so, because he clearly can't control himself anymore, and it is the duty of those closest to him to be able to pay attention to his behavior.
It's because the family doesn't know if their son is a gambler, how they can stop the gambling addiction when they don't know if their son is a gambler in the first place. However I've know some family have stop their son to stop gamble, but it's not worked because the addiction is really control his mind. When it's happen, it's better for a professional to take care about it.
I think it's a bit strange when the family doesn't know, because a gambler will definitely show unusual behavior, such as their money running out quickly or other things related to money. For me personally, from there, questions started to arise, why did his money run out so quickly, for example, and that could be the start of following up on what he was actually doing. I don't think it's possible for a gambling addict not to exhibit unusual habits, especially in financial terms.

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May 03, 2023, 06:39:39 PM
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To the family, its gonna be harder to forgive the old man kidnapping his own blood to satisfy his addiction. The man disregards everyone in the family but himself.

Asians have different culture which they have a strong family bond and they respect the elders. But this is too much. This might not be his first offense so there could be petty crime he did in the past too which his family had ignored.


No, I mean why didn't the family prevent it before everything happened. Before that event happened I thought some strange behavior would be shown. Gambling addiction is also something that the family should remind and continue to advise. And when something like this happens, who is to blame? old man turned into a monster by his addiction? I don't think so, because he clearly can't control himself anymore, and it is the duty of those closest to him to be able to pay attention to his behavior.
Well, honestly, I don't think you've really encountered people, if you have, then you should have known that, some people are so secretive to the extent that, when you sit close to them, you won't hear or see them breathing, they are like a ghost that appears and disappears....

As difficult as this may sound, it is very possible to live with a gambling addict for several years without know that he or she is addicted to gambling.

Maybe the man in question, figured out some ways to not let those around him, know or take notice that he is addicted to gambling, even for several years, it's very possible, so for me, I do not blame the family for not helping, it might just not be their fault clearly.

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May 04, 2023, 06:11:05 AM
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No, I mean why didn't the family prevent it before everything happened. Before that event happened I thought some strange behavior would be shown. Gambling addiction is also something that the family should remind and continue to advise. And when something like this happens, who is to blame? old man turned into a monster by his addiction? I don't think so, because he clearly can't control himself anymore, and it is the duty of those closest to him to be able to pay attention to his behavior.
It's because the family doesn't know if their son is a gambler, how they can stop the gambling addiction when they don't know if their son is a gambler in the first place. However I've know some family have stop their son to stop gamble, but it's not worked because the addiction is really control his mind. When it's happen, it's better for a professional to take care about it.
I think it's a bit strange when the family doesn't know, because a gambler will definitely show unusual behavior, such as their money running out quickly or other things related to money. For me personally, from there, questions started to arise, why did his money run out so quickly, for example, and that could be the start of following up on what he was actually doing. I don't think it's possible for a gambling addict not to exhibit unusual habits, especially in financial terms.
Not everyone can be open with other people even though it is their own family, if a gambling addict is a closed person then it is impossible for his family to know how financial he has so it is difficult to find out.
On the other hand, I believe not many people want to tell or show their finances because this stage is a privacy that is so guarded.
Yes, it is clear that gambling activities and addiction can be shown when someone holds a cellphone or uses a PC all the time while gambling because a gambling addict can spend a very long time using a cellphone or PC for them to play.

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May 04, 2023, 07:15:54 AM
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I'm not sure how I missed this news. I've heard stories and read news articles about people who have a chronic gambling addiction committing atrocities, but have I ever heard of someone kidnapping his own daughter or grand-daughter? NO, NEVER! This thing is messed up. I'm still thinking about how he faced his family after being caught in the deed.

Gambling causes depression and depression leads to committing crime, in the heydays of online cockfighting here in our country, people are committing crimes even to their families, just so they can play online cock fighting.
Gambling is like a drug if you cannot handle the way you take it, you will be miserable.
Imagine committing a crime against your family because you know that your family will forgive you because they want to preserve their family's unity.

It will be extremely difficult for the family in this case to simply look past what he has done. Think about it, fr; how on earth will an elderly man just conjure that kind of notion in the first place; if he was given the option to gain money by killing the kidnapped child, I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to do it.

If I were a member of that family, I'd make sure the man never looked at any of my children again because he clearly doesn't deserve it.

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May 04, 2023, 09:37:26 AM
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He was being innovative and showing initiative in figuring out how to continue to gamble. Give the guy some credit lol. 
I can never give such a person credit. Someone that gambling matters to than the happiness of his family. I hope other addicted people can learn from this, that gambling can not give them anything but than to be losing more and more if addicted. Our elders should be good examples and role models.
You are right gambling can not give anything good. Once person become addicted in gambling they are not easy to go away. They always want to win and they become greedy. Because the one cause of gambling is greedy for money. They want to gamble because they want big win until they realize that they are becoming addicted.
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May 04, 2023, 10:35:35 AM
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I think it's a bit strange when the family doesn't know, because a gambler will definitely show unusual behavior, such as their money running out quickly or other things related to money. For me personally, from there, questions started to arise, why did his money run out so quickly, for example, and that could be the start of following up on what he was actually doing. I don't think it's possible for a gambling addict not to exhibit unusual habits, especially in financial terms.
Not everyone can be open with other people even though it is their own family, if a gambling addict is a closed person then it is impossible for his family to know how financial he has so it is difficult to find out.
On the other hand, I believe not many people want to tell or show their finances because this stage is a privacy that is so guarded.
Yes, it is clear that gambling activities and addiction can be shown when someone holds a cellphone or uses a PC all the time while gambling because a gambling addict can spend a very long time using a cellphone or PC for them to play.
Indeed, in this case, not everyone can be open, but when they are still living with their parents, in fact, if the parents really care about the child's unnatural behavior, it can actually be seen under any circumstances.
Unless the parents don't really care. But indeed in this case, especially from the point of view of the parents who have indeed freed this, maybe this is one of the reasons because in this case, when we as children are adults, there will definitely be privacy, which of course must be maintained.

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May 04, 2023, 10:42:24 AM
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He was being innovative and showing initiative in figuring out how to continue to gamble. Give the guy some credit lol. 
I can never give such a person credit. Someone that gambling matters to than the happiness of his family. I hope other addicted people can learn from this, that gambling can not give them anything but than to be losing more and more if addicted. Our elders should be good examples and role models.
You are right gambling can not give anything good. Once person become addicted in gambling they are not easy to go away. They always want to win and they become greedy. Because the one cause of gambling is greedy for money. They want to gamble because they want big win until they realize that they are becoming addicted.
They will look for money from anywhere to use it to gamble. Gambling addiction can lead to crime because of the urge to have money that will later be used for gambling. If the person doesn't get help soon, he will get worse and may borrow money from other people to gamble. If that happened, he could get into even bigger trouble especially if he couldn't repay the loan. If we see a member of our family experiencing gambling addiction and we know, we must immediately help him so that it doesn't get worse. So he can immediately cure his gambling addiction.

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