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May 09, 2023, 07:26:07 PM
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The authorities and our families have different roles in helping these gambling addicts. We discuss them but we probably don't know how each of them deals every time they encounter one.

This is why it is there is a good reason for the need of seminars and advice service hotline for gambling addicts since the family can use these services to know what to do when the situation presents itself.
I agree, it should be done by the government and not just any private organization that cares for the gamblers that are wanting to get some help from anybody. Because from there, they're showing that they've already accepted that they're gambling addicts and that's why having an action of calling and taking calls for a hotline should be serviced and given.

And from there, people think that gambling causes only all negative things to a gambler and there's no shed of light from doing it. Having such gambling problem should also raise the governments campaign drives telling people if they can't avoid it then they should moderately do it.

It is quite hard for the government to determine gambling addicts without the help of the gambling platform.  The government must work with the gambling platform in order to quickly determine which person has the tendency to become a gambling-addicted player by studying betting data submitted by the gambling platform.
If it's in their jurisdiction, they're free to do that because a private company won't just do that for the cooperation. They're making money so unless they're on the right jurisdiction of any country where they're operating and they're coordinating for this matter, that's actually a good thing from a business company that also concern with their customers.

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May 09, 2023, 11:24:18 PM
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I agree, such people should look for professional help or get support by close circle. I don't blame reckless people who leave gambling addicts to their own fate since it was their own fault losing life savings on casino. Some gamblers don't take it seriously and keep depositing because they don't have close friends who can warn about possible results addiction can lead, unfortunately.
I don't even think gambling addicts usually conceive a second-thought about the whole proceed,...cus if they did, there'll always be some major interceptions.
Sometimes, maybe they feel it ain't even hurting them anyways and whatever goes as Thier loss isn't much....so all they'll be left with is doing the same thing over and over again untill it becomes VERY impossible to desist from it. Any addict should kill the ability of fancying every opportunity to wager and making self-thoughts of encouragement over a win on it.

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Some of us may under rate the potential and the effect of gambling addiction and what it cam cause in a gambler's life of care is not taken. I was one a addict when I was little then in school. Although we don't do it in a big way but we always try as much to make sure that we gamble with anything we have irrespective if it was our biggest treasure or valuables. I was delivered with the help of my father that knows what I was facing and the potential of gambling addiction affecting me in a long run. He was able to threaten me to stop because I was finally delivered.

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May 10, 2023, 12:02:25 PM
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Anything to excess will destroy you in the end whatever positive it appears in a moment.   A person could be totally peaceful just constantly eating candy bars and they will maybe end up dead that way if they cannot control the constant urge to eat unhealthily.   A person who drank coke, nothing added just fizzy pop ended up dead thats because caffeine in the very extremes can cause death and it is a drug.  She drank from the moment of waking and 2 litre bottles to herself all day, the caffeine causes heart irregularity which means a medical team to restart the heart was required at one point and she did not make it to the hospital and died.  The excess of almost anything must be seen as a vice and yes always be careful with money, reduce your bets to relearn a game if its not going your way.   The luck of winning a game should be a thrill not just money.
Exactly, and when it comes to addictions, gambling addiction is one of the most deadliest and dangerous addictions one could ever have, not only gambling but any addiction that involves money will never end up being good and the addict will end up doing things that no one in the world might have expected them to be doing, just like what the old guy did.

So, it's obviously true that excess of everything can be devastating for a person and one should always do things in the limit, whether it's a hobby, a habit, a desire, or anything in general, do it in a way that doesn't make you have the urge to do it very quickly again.
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May 11, 2023, 03:53:46 PM
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To prevent gambling addiction one must first learn to control oneself because it completely depends on the person himself. The young generation is attracted to various gambling sites out of curiosity to become unemployed. Starting from the investment of 5-10 thousand taka, getting greedy and losing lakhs of taka is making their life more miserable. Instead of this habit, you have to prepare yourself by analyzing the harmful effects and symptoms or the reasons behind it at least I have come to this decision myself I want to quit gambling. I want to get rid of gambling as the demand is at a level where self restraint is difficult, it is necessary to seek the help of a professional or professionals.

The end point of your statement was true. If you are already addicted, there's a need for professional help.

Self-admission is also one of the factors that keeps you stay and keeps your engagement to go deep. Gambling without control brings
a lot of problems not only with finances but also with your mental health.

You need to have a strong will to stay away and be ready to quit. It takes time and lots of determination before you can
truly free yourself out from gambling.

make it a habit to gamble for fun and only to spend a small amount of money. Spare that you can easily let go and forget.

yes! that's so true
for some users scaling out slowly and diminishing gambling habits over time will work but others will need a complete cut
it'll vary from person to person

having a network of support with loved people and healthy habits will always help

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May 11, 2023, 11:57:30 PM
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To prevent gambling addiction one must first learn to control oneself because it completely depends on the person himself. The young generation is attracted to various gambling sites out of curiosity to become unemployed. Starting from the investment of 5-10 thousand taka, getting greedy and losing lakhs of taka is making their life more miserable. Instead of this habit, you have to prepare yourself by analyzing the harmful effects and symptoms or the reasons behind it at least I have come to this decision myself I want to quit gambling. I want to get rid of gambling as the demand is at a level where self restraint is difficult, it is necessary to seek the help of a professional or professionals.

The end point of your statement was true. If you are already addicted, there's a need for professional help.

Self-admission is also one of the factors that keeps you stay and keeps your engagement to go deep. Gambling without control brings
a lot of problems not only with finances but also with your mental health.

You need to have a strong will to stay away and be ready to quit. It takes time and lots of determination before you can
truly free yourself out from gambling.

make it a habit to gamble for fun and only to spend a small amount of money. Spare that you can easily let go and forget.

yes! that's so true
for some users scaling out slowly and diminishing gambling habits over time will work but others will need a complete cut
it'll vary from person to person

having a network of support with loved people and healthy habits will always help
Actually you could really be able to stop gambling if you wanted to and its true that this one really really vary person to person because not all would really be having that strong self control and will to be able to stop
things midway or on point.Yes, there are ones who do gradually make themselves slowly be able to break out that shackles of gambling addiction. On the time that you are really that getting attached with gambling addiction then you are really putting up your finances or entire life at risks because you would really be that spending like a mad man. You would definitely know and realize when its too late.

Anything to excess will destroy you in the end whatever positive it appears in a moment.   A person could be totally peaceful just constantly eating candy bars and they will maybe end up dead that way if they cannot control the constant urge to eat unhealthily.   A person who drank coke, nothing added just fizzy pop ended up dead thats because caffeine in the very extremes can cause death and it is a drug.  She drank from the moment of waking and 2 litre bottles to herself all day, the caffeine causes heart irregularity which means a medical team to restart the heart was required at one point and she did not make it to the hospital and died.  The excess of almost anything must be seen as a vice and yes always be careful with money, reduce your bets to relearn a game if its not going your way.   The luck of winning a game should be a thrill not just money.

Anything which is excess is really that bad an no matte on what things you've been dealing as long it is really that out of path or on the right numbers or principles on which it did really affect
your life that negatively then it is really just that right that you should be stopping nor trying to get rid of it as early as possible before things comes even more worst.
Gambling addiction is never been that good and something that  you should really be avoiding yourself to get attached nor really able to come into this point.

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May 12, 2023, 05:18:45 AM
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Anything to excess will destroy you in the end whatever positive it appears in a moment.   A person could be totally peaceful just constantly eating candy bars and they will maybe end up dead that way if they cannot control the constant urge to eat unhealthily.   A person who drank coke, nothing added just fizzy pop ended up dead thats because caffeine in the very extremes can cause death and it is a drug.  She drank from the moment of waking and 2 litre bottles to herself all day, the caffeine causes heart irregularity which means a medical team to restart the heart was required at one point and she did not make it to the hospital and died.  The excess of almost anything must be seen as a vice and yes always be careful with money, reduce your bets to relearn a game if its not going your way.   The luck of winning a game should be a thrill not just money.
Exactly, and when it comes to addictions, gambling addiction is one of the most deadliest and dangerous addictions one could ever have, not only gambling but any addiction that involves money will never end up being good and the addict will end up doing things that no one in the world might have expected them to be doing, just like what the old guy did.

So, it's obviously true that excess of everything can be devastating for a person and one should always do things in the limit, whether it's a hobby, a habit, a desire, or anything in general, do it in a way that doesn't make you have the urge to do it very quickly again.
Unfortunately setting up limits for yourself and other can be very difficult, thanks to the internet we have access to almost anything we may want no matter where we are around the world, this has made self-restrain a rare characteristic as almost no one limits themselves and their desires on purpose in order to develop their discipline, and without it then it is becoming easier for people of all walks of life to become addicted, or to at least develop behaviors which can lead to addiction.
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May 12, 2023, 05:30:07 AM
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To prevent gambling addiction one must first learn to control oneself because it completely depends on the person himself. The young generation is attracted to various gambling sites out of curiosity to become unemployed. Starting from the investment of 5-10 thousand taka, getting greedy and losing lakhs of taka is making their life more miserable. Instead of this habit, you have to prepare yourself by analyzing the harmful effects and symptoms or the reasons behind it at least I have come to this decision myself I want to quit gambling. I want to get rid of gambling as the demand is at a level where self restraint is difficult, it is necessary to seek the help of a professional or professionals.

The end point of your statement was true. If you are already addicted, there's a need for professional help.

Self-admission is also one of the factors that keeps you stay and keeps your engagement to go deep. Gambling without control brings
a lot of problems not only with finances but also with your mental health.

You need to have a strong will to stay away and be ready to quit. It takes time and lots of determination before you can
truly free yourself out from gambling.

make it a habit to gamble for fun and only to spend a small amount of money. Spare that you can easily let go and forget.

yes! that's so true
for some users scaling out slowly and diminishing gambling habits over time will work but others will need a complete cut
it'll vary from person to person

having a network of support with loved people and healthy habits will always help

this really depends on the person as others can do a completely stop and after few months they got healed from addiction which this was also done by the most professional but others who are just helping themselves this is their way to slowly quit gambling which still needs self control but having really a circle of friends will help you so much on moving on becoming addict and it is best if you and your friend has a hobby like sports to completely be successful in moving on and fixing your self and to not become a gambling addict.
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May 12, 2023, 10:53:54 AM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling



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May 12, 2023, 12:02:27 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!
If someone commits suicide due to gambling, that person likely thinks they are done with everything. And if he has debts and can't pay them, he might choose suicide to end everything. But he forgot how his family could carry on without him.

It must have been hard on his family, being abandoned by the people they loved so much. And it's all because of debt and gambling. When someone is already in debt and is only used for gambling, that is a fatal mistake because it does not guarantee he can get a win but he can get a loss. And if he lost, how could he repay his debts?
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May 12, 2023, 12:17:15 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling
one of the bad examples done by gambling addicts who are already crazy. from this story it can be a reminder for us that having a responsible way of gambling is very important to keep gambling in a fun way without disappointing other people like the people in the story you shared because having committed suicide made his wife and children disappointed by losing family members family because of a gambling problem.
it is very sad to be in debt for gambling and commit suicide.

maybe we as sane people will think that why should we commit suicide when there are all solutions. but not for gambling addicts who are too crazy or already depressed and psychologically disturbed.
so he dared to commit suicide.

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May 12, 2023, 12:31:41 PM
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   -  That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

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May 12, 2023, 01:49:22 PM
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Gambling addicts do the darndest things. This man in the story must have successfully kept his addiction a secret from his wife and family. Or even if he didn't, they must have downplayed the severity of the addiction. As it has been said over and again, addiction exists and thrives in secrecy. That's its superpower but once exposed or talked about its potency is reduced. It is not enough to say gamble responsibly but to reach and guide them how to gamble responsibly.
This is true, it looks like he had kept his gambling activities as secrecy from his wife and family. Many used to gamble together, when the gambling activity is on the losing streak the family members used to take decision to stop gambling. By the time husbands used to suffer as they can't control their habit. This is where they try to keep it as a secret and when they weren't able to manage the loss ends up with such bad behaviour. As said rather than saying gamble responsibly it is good to teach them how to gamble responsibly.

Well, for some people, sometimes it is difficult to maintain control of what they do, in bets when a person does not have confidence in himself and is carried away by adrenaline, he can lose all his money and enter the casino with a lot of money and go bankrupt if you want, so that is what you have to avoid, especially those who have family, children, because you have to be responsible with them first before anything else, then if you are a person who has duties, you must comply Overall, because that's what he has his people for, he can't stop doing it because it would be something very bad, so yes, responsible gambling comes in here.

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May 12, 2023, 02:58:41 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling

that's sad
I agree that life is bigger and more important than most temporary pain, even debt
maybe this shows an indicator of propensity of depression and neurotransmitter unbalance in deep gambling addiction
could be..
would love to see studies in it

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May 12, 2023, 04:01:40 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

It is truly sad to hear of such tragic cases of suicide due to gambling addiction and debt, and it is worrying that some people feel trapped and helpless in their situation and see suicide as the only way out. While it may seem simple to say that debt can be solved, the truth is that for some people it can be a huge burden that they feel they cannot overcome. We have to admit that we don't know what others are going through. Everyone's circumstances are unique and we never really know what someone feels inside and how deeply they struggle.

In situations like this, I think the people who can make the most significant difference are those in the immediate environment, such as family members, friends and colleagues. They need to be there to listen to their struggles and give them support and encouragement to seek help. Suicide is never a solution and only leads to more pain and suffering for the loved ones left behind. That's why we should all make an effort to support and care for those around us, especially those who may be going through difficult times.

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May 12, 2023, 04:42:39 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling
Suicide is not a solution to get rid of any job rather I think through suicide a person escapes from a job or place forever. An addicted gambler forgets all these things. Such incidents happen almost everywhere in the world. But for this it is necessary to raise awareness. There is no reason to kill own self forever, if a man is willing and able to pay back his borrowed money by working hard. Any gambler should get a good education before gambling. Earlier there was no educational system about gambling, but nowadays, as gambling has taken shape as an industry, various types of research are being conducted on it all over the world. Also get a good idea about how to get an addicted gambler back to normal life.

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May 12, 2023, 05:41:32 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling

that's sad
I agree that life is bigger and more important than most temporary pain, even debt
maybe this shows an indicator of propensity of depression and neurotransmitter unbalance in deep gambling addiction
could be..
would love to see studies in it
That's too sad indeed, there's still other option to make it right and to pay for his debt, but he chooses the shortest way, I think he don't have any support system as well that will help him to process things. If anyone of us suffer from this we should know that we need a professional help for this and we don't need to sacrifice our life to escape from this misery there's always  a solution to anything.
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

It is truly sad to hear of such tragic cases of suicide due to gambling addiction and debt, and it is worrying that some people feel trapped and helpless in their situation and see suicide as the only way out. While it may seem simple to say that debt can be solved, the truth is that for some people it can be a huge burden that they feel they cannot overcome. We have to admit that we don't know what others are going through. Everyone's circumstances are unique and we never really know what someone feels inside and how deeply they struggle.

In situations like this, I think the people who can make the most significant difference are those in the immediate environment, such as family members, friends and colleagues. They need to be there to listen to their struggles and give them support and encouragement to seek help. Suicide is never a solution and only leads to more pain and suffering for the loved ones left behind. That's why we should all make an effort to support and care for those around us, especially those who may be going through difficult times.

Gambling can be wild. Instantly from airborne to drowning in debt. "Monetary Russian Roulette," as they say. Remember that every debtor has a story, a problem, and a reason for asking for aid. Debt is difficult, but it can be conquered. Consult professionals, consider debt consolidation, and plan your financial future. Create a "Debt Buster" to instantaneously erase all debts! Let's be honest. Help those in need and raise awareness. Together, our path to financial freedom will be clearer.


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May 12, 2023, 07:33:01 PM
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A heartbreaking incident (suicide) committed by a gambling addict occurred again in one of the cities in my country. I am surprised by people who are determined to commit suicide because of debt, after all debt is something that can be solved, message for suicides - why should you end your life and leave your wife and children without clarity, doesn't that only make them suffer more and the future of the children becomes uncertain!

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Alexander Leo Gunawan (33), head of the Expeditionary Office of the Tanah Sereal branch of JNT, Tambora, West Jakarta, was found hanging himself on the third floor of his office. Before ending his life on May 10 2023, the resident of Jalan Gunung Sahari VIII No.22 RT 015/004, Sawah Besar, Central Jakarta, had called his wife and conveyed his intention to kill himself and ordered him to look after his children.
SOURCE -- JNT Boss Suicide due to Debt and Online Gambling

that's sad
I agree that life is bigger and more important than most temporary pain, even debt
maybe this shows an indicator of propensity of depression and neurotransmitter unbalance in deep gambling addiction
could be..
would love to see studies in it
That's too sad indeed, there's still other option to make it right and to pay for his debt, but he chooses the shortest way, I think he don't have any support system as well that will help him to process things. If anyone of us suffer from this we should know that we need a professional help for this and we don't need to sacrifice our life to escape from this misery there's always  a solution to anything.
I feel sad when I see someone commit suicide because of a gambling addiction using debt-ridden money and I have little thought that that person may have a large amount of debt and some other problem that is driving his suicidal thoughts.
But I think this person killed himself because he had a large amount of debt just to gamble even though he was the boss at the company so he chose to kill himself rather than have to bear the shame of having a lot of debt for the sake of gambling.

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May 12, 2023, 07:47:03 PM
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   -  That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.
That is why addiction is supposed to be avoided by all means. Once you are addicted to something, that very thing becomes more important to you even more than  your own family and friends. It is just like someone being intoxicated and will be doing things out of their consciousness.
The war against gambling addiction should be intensified and that is the reason why some countries ban gambling in total because of the adverse negative effects that may be out of control.

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May 12, 2023, 08:46:20 PM
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   -  That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.
That is why addiction is supposed to be avoided by all means. Once you are addicted to something, that very thing becomes more important to you even more than  your own family and friends. It is just like someone being intoxicated and will be doing things out of their consciousness.
The war against gambling addiction should be intensified and that is the reason why some countries ban gambling in total because of the adverse negative effects that may be out of control.

Yes, it's really an unfortunate incident because out of all the people, it's the grandfather who took his own grand daughter to blackmail his own family. Every addict knows this feeling and some are even selling almost everything inside their house, some even resort to breaking other house just to feed their minds to continue from gambling, they just don't know what they're doing because it's already on their system which prevents them to weigh things from right or wrong.

I agree with that, I know that casinos and other gambling platforms are good for the nation's economy because the millions worth of tax will be helpful to build infrastructures and other things needed but if the nation is already booming already, it's time to ban these kind of activities because the consequences are not really worth it. Take for example South Korea, they have their own casinos but only the tourists can use it and not their own citizens as it's viewed as unlawful act and doing such will result into a jailtime.

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