Do you blame someone for your gambling losses?

[acroman08]

as much as I agree that they should be punished for what they did but I think that the jail time they got was quite excessive. I mean, 7 years in prison!?

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or

basically yeah, they tried to blame some unknown person for what happened and hoped that they'd get their money back because of the supposed "fraudulent act" that had happened

a case of double standard.

would you mind elaborating on the highlighted part?

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

quite sad that a lot of gamblers are having a hard time following this kind of mindset.

[Falconer]

I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.

[RockBell]

How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

A pretty amusing tale I wonder how they even came up with such a lame idea of trying to convince the company that they were scammed. That is why they say the rotten apple does not fall far from its tree anything the son ends up doing is definitely from the mother what was supposed to be frowned upon is now encouraged by the mother. Both the mother and son gamble with such an amount of money and with the fraudulent character they deserve to be sent to jail. wonder what lead to such addiction.

[nurilham]

I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.

Agree, bro.

Who has the intention to gamble?
If we gamble with our own intention, it is funny to blame other people. Losing during gambling is our own responsibility, we don't need to blame others.

People who blame others or casinos for their losses, can't control their emotions and can face reality. These types of people must stay away from gambling, they can't understand what gambling is.

[coin-investor]

Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

Like mother like son, I wonder who lured the other to gamble, they are both compulsive gamblers when you're in court you cannot lie because you are under oath, and if the court found that you are lying you will be charged with contempt, you can lie anywhere but never in court.
Compulsive gamblers are compulsive liars too but they have to plead guilty to lessen the sentence,

The mother and child pleaded guilty to the charges.

because if they continue to lie it will be a longer prison time, longer than the court handed them, but seven years is still a long prison term.

[qwertyup23]

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

This is nothing but a last resort made by both the son and the mother in order to escape their liability from it. The fact still remains that they gambled- this constitutes prima facie evidence that they are liable with their actions. They cannot just transfer such liability to someone in which they cannot prove to the court.

Everyone, this is a case where gambling addiction destroyed the lives of these two (2) people. This is the reason on why suffering from this kind of activity is not only dangerous but it can absolutely destroy your future. That is why, if anyone is suffering from addiction, acknowledge that you are and seek help from your family.

[DoublerHunter]

I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.

Agree, bro.

Who has the intention to gamble?
If we gamble with our own intention, it is funny to blame other people. Losing during gambling is our own responsibility, we don't need to blame others.

People who blame others or casinos for their losses, can't control their emotions and can face reality. These types of people must stay away from gambling, they can't understand what gambling is.

^ Definitely right.
Gambling is a personal choice and it comes with risks. It is important to take responsibility for our own actions and not blame others for our losses. Blaming others or casinos for our losses shows a lack of emotional control and an inability to face reality, it should be blaming no one. I think individuals who struggle with understanding the nature of gambling avoid it altogether. It is important to remember that gambling should be done responsibly and within one's financial means.

[Adbitco]

I think they need to visit the psychiatric hospital to check if they are mentally stable and correct because I wouldn't see where a reasonable man or individual would gamble with such huge amount of money to win something big. Did they in any way knows the magnitude of what they are doing and that isn't enough also accusing someone else for illegally transferring such huge amount to their bet account. Is she insane or what, didn't they know the implications of gambling with such amount of money?

You are right on your suggestion of taking both of them to a psychiatrist for a mental check instead of sentencing them to the wall of the prison because that will have a more negative impact on their mental well-being and could possibly ruin their life in the long run.

What they both need is rehabilitation and not jail because that is a pours case of gambling addiction and mental unbalance.

Before this would results to this extents i believe they have been doing this for long and this could be their last attempts and it got purged on them, you know whenever a criminal is being caught red handedly they always said is their first time.
If this is an addiction then it must be a chronic one for that matter. I don't expect a Nigerian woman to go this far in gambling to an extent initiating the Son to gambling as well instead of giving the child a good and quality education she ended up luring him to be a gambler.

[Gozie51]

The amount they loss is big and they were trying to create false accusation to retrieve the fund back. Whom did they even accused? Was it the casino company or the representative  (sportbook maker)? The bookmarker is innocent of the accusation because the money did not directly enter the person's account but the casino's company account.

The EFCC, in a statement issued on Wednesday, said Oluwayemisi and Joshua squandered the sum of N5.6 million on sports betting and caused a false petition to be sent to the EFCC, alleging that the money was fraudulently withdrawn from their Opay account to a sports betting account by an unknown individual without their authorisation.

Having an independent analysis from this point on quote, by inference, it could appear there is a third party who perhaps had access to the bank account where they alleged the money was pulled out. I'm just making a legal deduction from " and caused a false petition to be sent to the EFCC,......" because it appears they wrote the petition to the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) who perhaps investigated with preponderance of evidence against them to find out they used the money themselves.

[Oceat]

I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.

As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.

[Rigon]

Do you blame someone for your gambling losses?

No I don't blame anyone for my gambling losses. When I place a bet on a platform I participate in the bet with my own thoughts. I do not participate in betting on anyone's advice here. Earlier I participated in football match with big amount I took the help of my friend, he asked me to bet for best team PSG between two teams I took the bet but I lost there. I blamed him for this for a while, but later I realized he was not at fault, it was all my luck. So if you lose on the gambling platform then you should not blame this loss on anyone.

[stomachgrowls]

I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.

As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.

Try to trace out about the currency being used is Naira which means that this one happened on Nigeria.
Did make out some few research about the gambling laws and regulations in Nigeria and i found this one.

The law distinguishes between games of skill (which are legal) and games of chance (which are illegal). Legal forms of gambling include the lottery, land-based casinos and sports betting, whereas roulette, dice games and non-skilled card games are considered illegal.
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This is one question that i do have in mind is that why they would be penalized on something that they do spend out? If this one pertains about playing on an illegal aspect
then its normal that they did really commit out some violation but of course they would be having that reasoning.

[AmoreJaz]

I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.

As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.

if you have read the article. the money is on their Opay account. and they falsely alleged that someone used that money for sportsbetting. but maybe based from the investigations of EFCC, they were giving false claims that someone used their money for gambling to get back the money. but in reality, they were the ones who gambled the money, hence, charged of bordering false information.
and both mother and son pleaded guilty for such charges. so yeah, they did use it for sporsbetting and lost, and was trying to get funds back by saying that someone used their account without authorisation to get the money.

[serjent05]

Am very sure it was because they had lossed almost all the money that they came back to their senses. Otherwise, we wouldn't have learnt of such a news if they lost it all.
Seriously though, how can you blame someone other person for a loss you knowingly indulged?
The mother and son are just crying wolf to get some pity ceremony in their favour. Even if someone influenced their decision to gamble the money away, they wouldn't have if they weren't already gambling from an onset.

The thing is the mother and son blame someone of their wrong doings.  This is good as defamation on the part of the person being blamed of the said illegal funds movement which is none existing.

The judge should inquire as to why they are even laying blame on someone else, perhaps they want insurance or their mortgage is due somehow.  At least 7years would give them enough time to think about what they had done.

It is possible that the other person filed a counter-lawsuit which proved to be the case.  So this mother and son is sentenced into imprisonment due to the false allegation to the person involved.  But I think the penalty is too much since the defamation case under Nigeria is sentenced to 1- 2 year imprisonment[1]. Do they (mother and son) blame more than 3 entity on this case which resulted in at least 7 years of imprisonment?




[1] https://proguide.ng/punishment-false-accusation-nigeria

[romero121]

This happens, but very few have such an attitude to reach the court and claim the loss tas fund transferred without their authorisation. Even I've done, but not this way. When I experienced my first big loss I wasn't able to accept it and I contacted the support team. With them I was pleading that I lost mistakenly, please help me. Can you refund atleast half of what I've lost and so on. Finally got the response you need to play responsibly, and if you've win big and if the gambling platform doesn't settle the winning what'll you say. Same had taken place, so don't be down. I can't help you, Gamble in a responsible way which is the response I received.

[passwordnow]

So, they make an accusation without the real basis of their accusation and just made a fake accusation? Well, that's why gamblers are being thought of for something bad like this.
They can't stand on their own actions and they should be the ones responsible and accountable for this loss that they've made. I wouldn't find any fault with others if it's obvious that I'm the one at fault and lost money as I gamble. They wouldn't lose money in the first place if they have never gambled at all. It's a crazy statement and they'll for sure going to bring this false statement forever in their lives.

[Weawant]

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Both the mother and son are fraudster because they just try to frame someone of stealing their money when they're the one wasting it. They should have just come out clean for gambling the money and losing all, but why will someone lose that amount.

Nigerian families don't make that much money due to the poor condition of their country's economy so why will someone gamble away millions. This people have to be punished severally so others can learn and not go around accusing people wrongly.
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Gambling should be your personal decision and not to be influence by anyone so you shouldn't be blaming anybody for your losses. If you're still blaming people for your loses when you gamble then you need to stop gambling immediately.

[Silberman]

Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

This is outright fraud and I am glad they are paying what they owe to the bank and to society for their behavior, and let this be a lesson for everyone, if you cannot afford to lose the money you are using to gamble then do not gamble, because regardless of how smart you think you are if you try something like this the bank and the casino will realize that you are lying, as they can easily find out if you are telling the truth or not by analyzing their records of your transactions, and if you are lying then you will find yourself in an even bigger problem which could have legal consequences.

[Wexnident]

Kinda dumb as a petition though. I mean, I reckon it should be pretty easy to find traces (plus most gambling related stuff need KYC nowadays).

I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.

Not really familiar with this but don't those generally tend to cost money? Plus, seeing as they got sentenced to jail it clearly seems that it cost them more than they thought it would probably be. Chances are they're just that ignorant of the law though, can't blame them, majority of the people are after all.

It is possible that the other person filed a counter-lawsuit which proved to be the case.  So this mother and son is sentenced into imprisonment due to the false allegation to the person involved.  But I think the penalty is too much since the defamation case under Nigeria is sentenced to 1- 2 year imprisonment[1]. Do they (mother and son) blame more than 3 entity on this case which resulted in at least 7 years of imprisonment?

Looked up cases of 7 years imprisonment and got Section 422 of their criminal code act . Not really sure if I got the right one though.

[alegotardo]

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

For someone who has already lost so much money, a punishment with one more fine is indeed a very severe penalty.
I believe this was a desperate attitude on the part of someone trying to recover money that would certainly be sorely missed by this family.

Anyway, putting the blame on someone else in order to destroy the life of someone who has nothing to do with the fact is much more wrong.

However, I believe that freedom imprisonment and even forced community service would be more efficient than a fine, because how will they pay this fine now that they have already lost so much money in gambling?