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January 18, 2024, 08:50:36 PM
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Talking about winning tradition in the champions league, PSG and Bayern Munich are yet to have a consecutive winning tradition in the champions league enough to to lay them side by side with Manchester city and Real Madrid who have set historic records with the number of the champions league they have won.

If Manchester city win the the champions league this season again it will be twice in a row which I'm sure PSG or Bayern Munich has not attempted in the history of the UCL , Bayern Munich and PSG back in their various domestic leagues do have a good record of their performance so far which is undeniably brilliant as they both have dominance in their domestic league just that this season Bayern Munich has got a good contender for their dominance in their domestic league, champions league has got a very different form of competitiveness all together so they definitely can't be performing in like manner as their domestic league.
Bayern Munich won the Champions League title several seasons ago, while PSG have never been able to win it even though they have played in the final. A winning mentality is something that PSG need to improve if they want to win the title, but squad depth is also very important.

After all, this is Luis Enrique's first season with PSG in the Champions League. I can think that Enrique has a chance to take PSG to the quarter-finals or maybe the semifinals, but I'm not completely sure that PSG will reach the final this season. They have to try, but everyone also admits that PSG really struggles every season.

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January 18, 2024, 09:20:35 PM
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Im pretty sure that PSG will buy "star" players if they failed again this year (UCL).
PSG has offered a crazy contract 3 times bigger than Madrid bid to Mbappe, the club financial must be healthy.
This year might be not the year for PSG, but next year will be different.
Every year is always different, because this can be seen through every season played by all teams in any league and for PSG. It seems like they can only hope for trophies in their own local league, while the Champions League trophy is still very difficult because here there are still many obstacles that PSG must overcome. Apart from that, PSG has also had three stars for their attack line in previous seasons, but PSG has also never succeeded in the Champions League.
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January 18, 2024, 09:20:53 PM
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Manchester City's performance is very good, so in my opinion, I don’t think Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are going to be problems for Manchester City, although I obviously know that these two teams are very good and their performances are going well. But I think Manchester City is quite doing well when compared to these two teams, which are Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. However, Gaurdiola is a very good manager; he has different strategies for his squad when playing, and it always favours them. Therefore, I think Manchester City will be challenging for these teams.

Again, Manchester City winning last season doesn’t mean they won't be able to do better and win title again. We know that the reason why these teams have been shining since the beginning of the season is due to the absence of Manchester City key players. Now that they are back, everyone is saying that they will be the favourites because we know that if Halaand and Kelvin De Bryune are around, the Manchester City squad is good to go.

If we think about Bayern Munich and Real Madrid's performances so far it has been like this:

- Bayern Munich finished Group A with almost maximum amount of points. They won 5 matches and got a draw. But were they actually impressive in most of their matches? To be honest I don't think so. If you watched their matches for example they struggled quite much in some matches against Galatasaray and Copenhagen. But their quality was still enough to win. But if they maintain the same performance Manchester City can eliminate them.

- When it comes to Real Madrid they have had a really good run until this point. They won against Napoli in even both matches and completed Group C with 6 wins.  Smiley  I see them as the biggest threat to Manchester City at the moment. They are better this season with the help of Bellingham as well.

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January 18, 2024, 09:36:45 PM
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Talking about winning tradition in the champions league, PSG and Bayern Munich are yet to have a consecutive winning tradition in the champions league enough to to lay them side by side with Manchester city and Real Madrid who have set historic records with the number of the champions league they have won.

If Manchester city win the the champions league this season again it will be twice in a row which I'm sure PSG or Bayern Munich has not attempted in the history of the UCL , Bayern Munich and PSG back in their various domestic leagues do have a good record of their performance so far which is undeniably brilliant as they both have dominance in their domestic league just that this season Bayern Munich has got a good contender for their dominance in their domestic league, champions league has got a very different form of competitiveness all together so they definitely can't be performing in like manner as their domestic league.
Bayern Munich won the Champions League title several seasons ago, while PSG have never been able to win it even though they have played in the final. A winning mentality is something that PSG need to improve if they want to win the title, but squad depth is also very important.

After all, this is Luis Enrique's first season with PSG in the Champions League. I can think that Enrique has a chance to take PSG to the quarter-finals or maybe the semifinals, but I'm not completely sure that PSG will reach the final this season. They have to try, but everyone also admits that PSG really struggles every season.
If only a luxurious and expensive squad was needed to win the UCL, maybe Man City and PSG would take turns winning the UCL league every season. But in the UCL league we have to talk about the club's mentality and philosophy, Bayern is the type of team that prioritizes teamwork, there are no players who often show off at Bayern Munich, and of course their mentality is like yours. said.

This is something that PSG doesn't have, last season the PSG squad was very luxurious but still failed and this season it can still be said that PSG has a good squad and even has a good coach, but this also doesn't guarantee they can reach the final. PSG in the group phase almost didn't qualify, only winning on goal difference with AC Milan. PSG needs a process that is not instantaneous to win the UCL League and we can see what Man City has done, after waiting so long, only last season did Man City win the UCL trophy for the first time. If PSG still fires coaches every time they fail, then they will be even further away from winning the UCL trophy.

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January 18, 2024, 09:38:37 PM
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Back-to-back title is quite possible for Manchester City when we think about it on paper. Because technically they have one of the best squads in Europe now. And they are playing according to Guardiola's really solid system as well. However this task is still going to be quite difficult for them at the same time.

The reason why is that they have really challenging opponents such as Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Manchester City won the title for the first time in their history previously. It would be really challenging to retain the title against these more experienced teams.  Smiley  De Bruyne and Haaland are needed as a duo for Manchester City from now on to increase their chance.
Manchester City winning the Champions League trophy back-to-back this season is possible because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the real threats to Manchester City. Manchester City beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich last season to reach the UEFA Champions League final, and Manchester City can still beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich this season.
Last season real Madrid and Bayern Munich aren't the same bro, changes is bound to happen and this time around the table might turn. If you were saying this thing like a month ago I would have argued with you vividly because the Manchester city that was playing was really shaky to even play with the might of real Madrid and harry Kane Bayern Munich but seeing that the magnificent Belgium has resumed game time and I would not that Manchester city will defeat Bayern and also real Madrid because the presence of Kevin changes alot of things.
Last season Real Madrid and Bayern Munich won most of their matches in the UEFA Champions League, and Bayern Munich even knocked out PSG, but when Bayern Munich and Real Madrid played Manchester City they couldn't perform well.

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January 18, 2024, 09:44:18 PM
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Back-to-back title is quite possible for Manchester City when we think about it on paper. Because technically they have one of the best squads in Europe now. And they are playing according to Guardiola's really solid system as well. However this task is still going to be quite difficult for them at the same time.

The reason why is that they have really challenging opponents such as Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Manchester City won the title for the first time in their history previously. It would be really challenging to retain the title against these more experienced teams.  Smiley  De Bruyne and Haaland are needed as a duo for Manchester City from now on to increase their chance.
Manchester City winning the Champions League trophy back-to-back this season is possible because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the real threats to Manchester City. Manchester City beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich last season to reach the UEFA Champions League final, and Manchester City can still beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich this season.
I am sure that Manchester City can win the CL title in a row if they have the same consistency as last season. On the one hand, the players they really rely on have also started to return, such as Dr. Bruyne and Haaland, who can give their full strength to be able to maintain consistency and win the title this season. this eliminated Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
Even though Real Madrid is very strong, this club does not have a striker who can penetrate the opponent's defense, which means that Real Madrid could fail because if they only rely on other players like Bellingham, they will not be able to compete strongly on the one hand. Manchester City has a great striker and Bayern Munich has Harry Kane. .
It's hard to see Real Madrid winning the trophy but seeing Manchester City really convinces fans that this club can win the CL title again this season.

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January 18, 2024, 09:51:38 PM
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Im pretty sure that PSG will buy "star" players if they failed again this year (UCL).
PSG has offered a crazy contract 3 times bigger than Madrid bid to Mbappe, the club financial must be healthy.
This year might be not the year for PSG, but next year will be different.
For PSG aspect in the Champions League, I don't think they have any best season to win the Champions Leage more than last two seasons, but they failed, therefore, I don't think they will even go far this season. They have the chance of qualifying every season, but they couldn't win any one even though the team managements have tried so many coaches and players from different clubs.

Last season Real Madrid and Bayern Munich won most of their matches in the UEFA Champions League, and Bayern Munich even knocked out PSG, but when Bayern Munich and Real Madrid played Manchester City they couldn't perform well.
Playing match with Manchester City is not always easy because of the coach. Pep has various tactics that can be used to play different teams, and because of him being an experience manager, beating his team is always hard; that is why Bayern Mnich and Real Madrid find it difficult to bit them.

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January 18, 2024, 09:51:56 PM
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Manchester City winning the Champions League trophy back-to-back this season is possible because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the real threats to Manchester City. Manchester City beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich last season to reach the UEFA Champions League final, and Manchester City can still beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich this season.

It's too easy to make predictions if Manchester City afr going to to well and win the champions League or not because we have much dangerous group that just left it's group stage. However, we can make accurate predictions in Quarter final because the threatening team will be out by that time. Don't get get too comfortable, it's possible that Manchester City will be remove before Quarter final and the battle might be between less team with another less powerful team.


few but more than last year, last year only Inter and Real Madrid were up to Manchester City
This year, however, I think there are more teams that are up to Pep Guardiola's team, so I think it's a much more interesting season than the previous one.

or better i hope because i love fight on football Cheesy

The Champions League is becoming more and more competitive because Domestic leagues that are allow to come to the Champions League are getting competitive everyday. Napoli rarely come here to play well in their group stage but they are here now fighting to win the champions League. Real Madrid are also hot this season and perhaps because last season was poor, they might flog any team that comes there way.

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January 18, 2024, 10:05:40 PM
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Every year is always different, because this can be seen through every season played by all teams in any league and for PSG. It seems like they can only hope for trophies in their own local league, while the Champions League trophy is still very difficult because here there are still many obstacles that PSG must overcome. Apart from that, PSG has also had three stars for their attack line in previous seasons, but PSG has also never succeeded in the Champions League.

IMO, I don't see the potential if PSG is able to reach the final round of this competition. yeah, we can see it when Paris Saint-Germain plays their match in the group phase. For me, PSG does not yet meet the criteria as a strong competitor in the race for trophies. moreover, Enrique is actually building his team with the young players they have brought in. ideally, Ligue 1 is still theirs. But it's up to us to see how far Enrique is able to take his team to advance in this competition.

in the previous season, you had to look at the other side of the PSG players. At that time, several players were injured, especially Neymar and several important defensive line players. So, it's natural that they didn't play as effectively as we expected. Plus, the PSG midfielder at that time was also underperforming. Well, for me it was natural that PSG lost to Bayern Munich at that time. and the main problem, the PSG coach has difficulty handling a club that has star players. their egos in the dressing room, will have an impact and it does. Galtier has no experience managing a team as big as PSG. Plus, he doesn't have a standard pattern that he relies on. I see it more if in the next season, PSG will make progress, especially in the Champions League competition. However, for this season, it seems that this competition trophy is not their main target.

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Back-to-back title is quite possible for Manchester City when we think about it on paper. Because technically they have one of the best squads in Europe now. And they are playing according to Guardiola's really solid system as well. However this task is still going to be quite difficult for them at the same time.

The reason why is that they have really challenging opponents such as Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Manchester City won the title for the first time in their history previously. It would be really challenging to retain the title against these more experienced teams.  Smiley  De Bruyne and Haaland are needed as a duo for Manchester City from now on to increase their chance.
Manchester City winning the Champions League trophy back-to-back this season is possible because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the real threats to Manchester City. Manchester City beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich last season to reach the UEFA Champions League final, and Manchester City can still beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich this season.

I think me and you are thinking the same thing about this because this is also what I'm expecting from Manchester City. I believe Manchester City will beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. These two teams cannot be a challenge for Manchester City or stop them from winning the Champions League this season again. Because the same thing we are discussing happened last season, and Manchester City concurred. Furthermore, we need to know that Manchester City are using the same squad that was used last season to compete with this team this season again. Therefore, even though I cannot guarantee them winning these two teams, I believe that with the way Manchester City performance is going, they will do something positive. So let’s wait and observe.

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January 18, 2024, 10:41:11 PM
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It is all about not underestimating their opponents in this round. Bayern, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the favorites in all those games, but there have been surprises in the past. I would be no exception if one of them gets under pressure, but since it is two games to go, I doubt that any of these teams would falter. I rather expect a few superior games by those teams and then we will see what the next round brings regarding the drawing.
We expects our favorite team to come our victorious in every match played but it's quite important these clubs doesn't fall out of track. UEFA Champions League is definitely not a competition for mediocre teams, the title race is only among the best clubs. We have watch and observe the outstanding performance exhibited by these teams, none of them holds back because striving for good results have always been the ultimate goal. You're correct, these elite clubs are opportune to be on the lists because they've become one of the very tough clubs, proven themselves.

Uff, maybe it is a competition for teams that seem to be mediocre but have an ace up their sleeves. If you remember how Sevilla did in the Europa League or how once Porto did when Mourinho was the coach, these teams were nowhere on the planet considered the favorites in these competitions, but they won it. Statistically you are right, the Champions League doesn't really give good reasons to think that an outsider would win the competition in the end, but I still think that there is only a vague definition as to who counts as a a non-favorite team and a favorite team. This season there are a couple of teams that I am not sure about what to think of them. But I will find out soon and that's what makes this season exciting once again.

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January 18, 2024, 10:56:19 PM
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IMO, I don't see the potential if PSG is able to reach the final round of this competition. yeah, we can see it when Paris Saint-Germain plays their match in the group phase...

You made some good points about PSG
Something I'd like to add is that in 19/20, the year PSG reached the final and lost to Bayern, PSG peaked and even showed signs that the team was on another level (great) in 20/21 when they reached the semi-finals
I thought PSG would always be in the top four and consequently win the UCL in a few years

Last year, PSG showed signs of great decadence when they ignored the criteria of the league, didn't qualify in 1st place and had to face Bayern in the round of 16, when they were fully capable of qualifying first and perhaps going further
It's very difficult to bet on PSG because you don't know what to expect hehe, I'll be amazed if PSG make it to the semi-finals playing like this  Cheesy
And again PSG qualified in second place, but at least they will face Real Sociedad, in my opinion they are at the same level right now with better chances to PSG



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January 18, 2024, 10:56:32 PM
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PSG only has Mbappe as a star player and the rest are only good players they managed to get last summer. But I also don't forget that at PSG there is one player who has lifted the champions league trophy 3 times in his previous team and that is Marco Asensio. He was an important player at that time at Real Madrid and his supersub abilities also had quite an important impact on Real Madrid's Champions League hat trick from 2016 to 2018.

But what is clear is that the rest of the PSG squad is filled with players who have little experience in the Champions League and I doubt that PSG can be a threat to the clubs that hold this tradition. PSG might be dangerous but that didn't come until the semifinals and I don't think all the teams considered whether they would get their first Champions League title.
And for that reason, psg is unwilling to let go of mbappe since he is currently at their best, knows what he needs to do as a player, and is genuinely making an effort. and it appears that other players are depending on him because of his talent, speed, and good scoring sense. The problem is that the entire PSG is now looking up to Mbappe, and when he returned from the World Cup, he was even better than before. However, if he had simply gone to Madrid, he would have had the opportunity to win the Champions League. Marco Asensio actual is also doing a good job but not as mbappe now who his on his way to becoming a legend. majority of psg players lack experience but the more they play the more they are getting experience.

Im pretty sure that PSG will buy "star" players if they failed again this year (UCL).
PSG has offered a crazy contract 3 times bigger than Madrid bid to Mbappe, the club financial must be healthy.
This year might be not the year for PSG, but next year will be different.
Paris Saint-German has tried to win the UEFA Champions League trophy since they signed Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but they failed to win it, and that also made them sign Messi, and they still failed to win the UEFA Champions League trophy. PSG should try to build a team and leave buying star players who will not even help them win the UEFA Champions League trophy.

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Last season Real Madrid and Bayern Munich won most of their matches in the UEFA Champions League, and Bayern Munich even knocked out PSG, but when Bayern Munich and Real Madrid played Manchester City they couldn't perform well.
It's not that Bayern Munich and Real Madrid couldn't perform well when facing Manchester City, but because last season Bayern Munich and Real Madrid were not as good as Manchester City until Manchester City managed to get their first trophy in the Champions League last season. Meanwhile, PSG still hasn't experienced the beauty of winning the Champions League and the sweetness of a trophy in the Champions League, but this season I'm still not sure that Manchester City can repeat the same thing.

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January 18, 2024, 11:04:27 PM
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PSG are said to have offered a huge contract to Mbappe which is worth 100 million euros. If this is true it is going to be a really huge improvement in case he accepts the offer.  Smiley  Because he makes 72 million euros per year on his current contract - which goes up to 132 million euros with bonuses.



But would he accept it? I still want to believe in Mbappe not to choose PSG over Real Madrid.

I think that Real Madrid is the best place for Mbappe to carry his career to next level. PSG chairman Nasır el-Halifi said that the best place for him is PSG but it is normal to hear such thing from him.  Grin  He is ready to spend whatever amount is needed to convince Mbappe. But another rich and more successful team can also give what Mbappe wants anyway.  Smiley
Nasser Al-Khelaifi made quite a good effort to convince Mbappe to stay with PSG. I think this crazy offer is also a downer for teams interested in Mbappe in this season's transfer window. And everything will depend on Mbappe because if he stays of course it will be better because he will get a salary increase and also he is very privileged by the PSG team. last season where Mbappe made a drama not to renew his contract with PSG but he would stay until the contract ended with PSG but in this transfer window PSG is again tempting Mbappe to accept the offer of a new contract with a bigger salary.


Well, PSG fans are definitely in a dilemma right now because if Mbappe refuses the new offer from PSG, of course Mbappe will become a free transfer player after this season ends. However, for me, if Mbappe wants to win the UCL trophy, maybe it would be appropriate for him to go to another club after his contract with PSG ends because while playing for PSG. Mbappe had difficulty winning the UCL trophy because PSG always failed every season in the Champions League. Luis Enrique certainly played a big role in persuading Mbappe to stay with them for the next season. Apart from that, let's just wait for the latest news which might be quite hot.

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January 18, 2024, 11:07:02 PM
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Paris Saint-German has tried to win the UEFA Champions League trophy since they signed Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but they failed to win it, and that also made them sign Messi, and they still failed to win the UEFA Champions League trophy. PSG should try to build a team and leave buying star players who will not even help them win the UEFA Champions League trophy.
Whatelse are PSG looking for? They're the ones that persuaded the big names and escorted out of the Parc des Princes stadium and why are they're all complaining. They're always winning top spot and becoming a more vigilant club. The club's winning the UCL title are important but it will take more time, definitely not with the current squad because there are quite significant factors that would hinder PSG from climbing the top. The trophy season is here but its not considered the major titles. This season, Paris Saint-Germain have become vulnerable, mere facing Newcastle United, they lost heavily in your hands.

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January 18, 2024, 11:11:34 PM
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But who are these players then after they bought Neymar, Messi and Mbappe? I think it can't get any better than that if we talk about star players that they could buy. I think there isn't much they can do from here. But let's assume that their goal would be to bring in a whole new set of star players, who are these players then?
Sometimes the problem may not lay within the players but with the club but the management may fail to understand this and because they are financially capable they keep buying more and more players who will come receive pay check and go without achieving that which the team did bought them for .

If PSG keeps buying new sets of players more like a continuous overhauling, how then can they build a team that can be formidable enough to stand the teat of times. The basics of a good and strong team isn't in buy new players every season but building these players just like Dortmund does only that Dortmund is in a contentious habit of selling them off if not with their building skill they would have had one of the best team across Europe, rather than scouting for new players to buy for the team, PSG should focus on building the ones they have already and in few years to come they will be ready to lift the champions league.

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January 18, 2024, 11:15:42 PM
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Paris Saint-German has tried to win the UEFA Champions League trophy since they signed Zlatan Ibrahimovic, but they failed to win it, and that also made them sign Messi, and they still failed to win the UEFA Champions League trophy. PSG should try to build a team and leave buying star players who will not even help them win the UEFA Champions League trophy.
Whatelse are PSG looking for? They're the ones that persuaded the big names and escorted out of the Parc des Princes stadium and why are they're all complaining. They're always winning top spot and becoming a more vigilant club. The club's winning the UCL title are important but it will take more time, definitely not with the current squad because there are quite significant factors that would hinder PSG from climbing the top. The trophy season is here but its not considered the major titles. This season, Paris Saint-Germain have become vulnerable, mere facing Newcastle United, they lost heavily in your hands.
Psg will not be ready to become champions with the current squad they need time to win the UCL trophy. They did make it through the group phase but their performance was not very impressive, I don't think their efforts this season will last much longer in the Champions League because the other teams are stronger than them. If PSG only relies on one individual who plays an important role in every match then they will not be able to become champions.

The Champions League of course has very strong competition so if they are not strong enough then other teams will get rid of they. This season Real madrid is at the forefront to win the title because they have a stronger mentality compared to PSG. I think if PSG meets Real Madrid, maybe Real Madrid will get rid of PSG.

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January 18, 2024, 11:28:27 PM
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Psg will not be ready to become champions with the current squad they need time to win the UCL trophy. They did make it through the group phase but their performance was not very impressive, I don't think their efforts this season will last much longer in the Champions League because the other teams are stronger than them. If PSG only relies on one individual who plays an important role in every match then they will not be able to become champions.
I am also not sure if PSG will be.
Because after all, there are still many other candidates who actually have more potential to become the champion. And it doesn't even seem like PSG is one of the favorites. Currently, some of the things we are looking forward to are Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, and some say Barcelona, although I'm not sure about this last one. because right now Barcelona is also going through a bad phase, especially with the coaching problems they are currently facing. In fact, I prefer Inter rather than Barcelona. but we'll see what happens in the future.

I realized that even though I previously said that Man City might not be the strongest because of the many injured players, but after the return of these players, Man City could indeed be one of the most favorites. And if they can be as solid as before, they can make it to the final. This will be even more exciting because

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January 18, 2024, 11:35:38 PM
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Back-to-back title is quite possible for Manchester City when we think about it on paper. Because technically they have one of the best squads in Europe now. And they are playing according to Guardiola's really solid system as well. However this task is still going to be quite difficult for them at the same time.

The reason why is that they have really challenging opponents such as Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. Manchester City won the title for the first time in their history previously. It would be really challenging to retain the title against these more experienced teams.  Smiley  De Bruyne and Haaland are needed as a duo for Manchester City from now on to increase their chance.
Manchester City winning the Champions League trophy back-to-back this season is possible because Real Madrid and Bayern Munich are the real threats to Manchester City. Manchester City beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich last season to reach the UEFA Champions League final, and Manchester City can still beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich this season.

I think me and you are thinking the same thing about this because this is also what I'm expecting from Manchester City. I believe Manchester City will beat Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. These two teams cannot be a challenge for Manchester City or stop them from winning the Champions League this season again. Because the same thing we are discussing happened last season, and Manchester City concurred. Furthermore, we need to know that Manchester City are using the same squad that was used last season to compete with this team this season again. Therefore, even though I cannot guarantee them winning these two teams, I believe that with the way Manchester City performance is going, they will do something positive. So let’s wait and observe.

This Manchester City we saw so far in this season was far from the good form they had in the past and they were getting bad results. Manchester City is a team they are very much dependent on its players and it seems without some players like Kevin De Bruyne they will have a bad performance and you saw in the last games we saw from Manchester City while they had De Bruyne they got much better results and that's why I think this team is not in the good firm this time and they are far from the good days they had in the past.  

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