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October 05, 2023, 09:33:45 AM
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Congratulations to those who bet on Barcelona and maybe this time Barcelona was just lucky with this win. For Porto fans, this result must be enough to make them angry and for me, who tried to turn the tide by betting a handicap for Porto's advantage, I felt disadvantaged in this match. The reason is that the referee's decision was felt to be very detrimental to Porto, how could Porto not have received 2 penalties, but the referee did not give a single penalty in this match. Starting from Cancelo's handball, after being checked by VAR, the referee said the ball had hit the Porto player first. Then there was Julius Kounde who pulled a Porto player's shirt in the penalty box until he fell, but the referee didn't consider it a foul.

I think this match is a bit strange and I don't want to give too much opinion about it. Well, however, the match is over and Porto must accept this result sincerely and continue to be confident in the next match.
I agree because in last few weeks we have too much mess-up just because of these referees and use of technology is also not working in these cases which are more headache for the fans like we have in Premier League game Tottenham vs Liverpool and now this Porto vs Barcelona is again a big disappointment for the fans this match surely deserve as strangest match of this week with having no positive decisions for the home side against Barcelona which ends with a narrow second win of their second match in this season here in Champions League.

Even we have eight cards for the Barcelona but still all important decisions gone against Porto which is now having 3 points from two games but still have good chance for staying at the second spot because they are having good quality and good players which can turn the matches into better way for their club.

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October 05, 2023, 09:49:05 AM
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There is something more important to this win and that is the margin by which they won. If they end up being equal in points with PSG and they share rank 2 and 3, the direct comparison will decide which team will advance to the next stage in the Champions League and which team will be relegated into the Europa League. Winning 4-1 can be so important because PSG would have to beat Newcastle at least 3-0 to then have the goal difference decide about the order in the table. I think that's one reason why this defeat is really bad for PSG. It raises the pressure even more for the next games.

You are right. PSG lost by a big margin. And in this they may face problems. PSG lost the away match by 4-1. It is unlikely that PSG will win the home match by 3 goals. As I have seen Newcastle's gameplay, it is very difficult to beat this team by 3 goals. Because even when Newcastle play attacking, they never leave their defence vulnerable. The team has not been in good form in the Premier League at the start of this season. Even then, they conceded only 7 goals in 7 matches.
However, I think Newcastle and PSG are more likely to qualify for the knockout rounds. I had higher expectations from the Milan team. But their performance is a bit slow. They probably want to focus entirely on Serie A.

The next game for Newcastle will be key. If they win their home game against Dortmund, I would say that they have amost made it through the group stage unless they lose all of their last 3 games. I know there is still some speculation involved because the group is so close, but the team that has a head start in this close group is probably one of the teams that comes out successful. They have the goal advantage against PSG or they would have to get slaughtered. They have a home game against AC Milan and did not concede a goal there. They are in a great position to master the hardest group of this Champions League season.

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October 05, 2023, 10:05:19 AM
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Interesting how everyone here is discussing the PSG game last night... But to be honest, I'm not surprised that Newcastle were able to destroy them... PSG have a lot of problems now, while Newcastle are playing their first season in the Champions League and have already managed to make a good result... Seen jokes about Newcastle being the new Man City this season... Grin
I was not surprised as well because i knew the way Newcastle play it will be difficult for PSG to penetrate them because of the quality of players they have and the only threat i see is Mbappe and Dembele and i still knew they will have tough time getting through Newcastle’s defense. I love the way Newcastle approached the match, they showed no sign of fear and they didn’t play as if they are new to the champions league atmosphere. They gave their best and the fans helped encourage them since they played at home. It was an interesting match and the better side won. I hope they can keep up the performance to qualify to the knockout rounds.

I never thought that PSG was a scary club, they don't have players who are good enough to play in the UCL therefore I never thought they could qualify for the final or semi-finals of the UCL, the clubs that are more respected in the UCL at the moment are Munich, City and Madrid, of course, these three clubs are more favored than PSG, Mbappe will never be successful if he stays at PSG.
Most of their players are average, they have a good attack but lack the defense and midfield to complement the attack that’s why it was difficult for them to penetrate Newcastle. Will they be able to face stronger teams in case they qualify to the knockout, can they win teams like Bayern, Madrid or Manchester City? I doubt that except if Mbappe performs his magic as usual.

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October 05, 2023, 10:19:37 AM
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 Most people expected that Newcastle will see failure in their Group F but Eddie Howe's men went and changed the narrative yesterday, humiliating PSG and making Mbappe further questioning his decision to remain at the club. Right from the beginning of the game, they were all about attacking and poaching PSG defense, causing the French giants to be making sloppy passes and giving away chances. After Miguel Almiron's goal opener, I expected them to relentless and go defensive but no, they showed PSG that that guts that saw them punish Burnley in their domestic league was still with them and the fans at St James Park were not disappointed.
 PSG have not been on fine playing levels as last weekend saw them going on a goalless draw with weak club side, Clermont Foot and many were anticipating that they'd find their rhythm in the game last night but their woes just seemed to compound and they were thrashed 4-1.
This new development sees them trailing behind Newcastle at who are at the top with four points and three goals.

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October 05, 2023, 10:37:45 AM
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The next game for Newcastle will be key. If they win their home game against Dortmund, I would say that they have amost made it through the group stage unless they lose all of their last 3 games. I know there is still some speculation involved because the group is so close, but the team that has a head start in this close group is probably one of the teams that comes out successful. They have the goal advantage against PSG or they would have to get slaughtered. They have a home game against AC Milan and did not concede a goal there. They are in a great position to master the hardest group of this Champions League season.
However, because this victory makes Newcastle's chances of qualifying from the group much greater and also if we look at Newcastle's recent performance which is getting better, it makes many people believe that the Newcastle team will qualify from the group.
This big win over PSG is quite important for Newcastle players to be more confident in facing the next match because basically Newcastle is a team that is not the favorite, but they are able to prove themselves.

And PSG is really really down right now, even in the Legue 1 match the PSG team didn't play well, this team seems to have lost its identity this season.

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October 05, 2023, 10:38:57 AM
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Interesting how everyone here is discussing the PSG game last night... But to be honest, I'm not surprised that Newcastle were able to destroy them... PSG have a lot of problems now, while Newcastle are playing their first season in the Champions League and have already managed to make a good result... Seen jokes about Newcastle being the new Man City this season... Grin

I think one of the reasons PSG lost was their match strategy . PSG youngster luis enriue wanted to control  the match with possession of the ball. They have placed more emphasis on ball possession than attacking more. I would say this match strategy only applies to La Liga. It is very difficult to win in the Champions League or Premier League with such tactics. Because Premier League teams usually play very fast. They attack and counterattack quickly. And I think that's why PSG lost. Luis Enrique's team is not doing well. At the same time his match strategy is also weak. I don't see any future for PSG in this Champions League.

I couldn't understand what you mean by PSG's young star Luis Enrique. Luis Enrique is the coach and is responsible for giving the right tactics to his players. Paris Saint Germain could not play well. They are also going through difficult times in the French league and with Mbappe's performance far from last year, Paris is getting bad results this year. If there is any success here, it is the success of Newcastle United.
Probable he meant about some young players in PSG. that's why he was calling those were enrique's young stars. PSG is always struggling in the EPL. Playing without messi was giving very huge impact.
I must say that if messi was making mbappe to play confidently last season. Playing without messi has a very big impact to the club. There was no a guy who experienced enough in giving good pass.

Newcastle doesn't care so much about the ball possession as long as it would be able attacking PSG and that's fine. Enrique was using the same method like when he was coaching barcelona. This guy was always putting tiki taka as his main strategy while it can be countered easily these days.
Many coaches have been aware about the method to counter the tiki taka strategy through counter attacking strategy.

Newcastle was destroying PSG. That 1 billion club was nothing in front of newcsatle.

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October 05, 2023, 10:43:11 AM
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Newcastle United helped Premier League teams dominance in UEFA Champion League after both teams Manchester United and Arsenal loss last match, unpredictable with Newcastle United success defeated favorite teams PSG. Its nice achievement for Newcastle United as newcomer teams after absent for long term in Champion League success got four points in two matches. Managed standings awhile behind one point remaining from PSG actually not secure for PSG position will qualify to knock out round or not depend with four matches left how consistency of Newcastle United performance.
Indeed, Newcastle's performance was extraordinary in this match. They were able to beat PSG with a landslide score of 4 - 1, in my opinion this was a very profitable Champions League opener for Newcastle, yes this victory will definitely be one of the representative teams from the Premier League. Newcastle's victory was of course unexpected because everyone thought that the PSG players had very good quality players and impressive attacks, compared to Newcastle, they were definitely favorites in this match, and in the end the favorite team lost to Newcastle, of course this defeat makes everyone confused. This is indeed a temporary standings, of course it can change at any time, Eddie Howe has to think hard so that Newcastle's performance remains optimal and better to face the next team in the Champions League. In the next match, Newcastle will face Dortmund. I am sure Newcastle can win if they maintain their best performance in the next match.

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October 05, 2023, 10:48:53 AM
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Milan's performance will be at a level that can increase over time. Even though they seem to be a little behind for now, they still have a chance to get out of the group. The Newcastle matches will be decisive for them. They drew in Milan in the first match, but they must beat them in England. Milan is also a team that can win against PSG. They just haven't shown their strength yet.
Milan had no choice other than beating PSG once it will be playing away. I see no reason for milan not to get full points. The club was willing to pass the group stage, and winning against PSG was a must. It will help milan to have the same points as PSG. We will be entering the third match day.
Acmilan's chance to pass the group stage will be determining from the result against PSG. PSG was playing so garbage and milan just needs to repeat the same performance like when it was facing newcastle at sansiro.

PSG was always feeling so badly once it was facing a club that is consistently attacking. Milan might be able to win against PSG with good scores.
Pioli is still having some chances to make sure its club will able to pass the group stage. Losing three points against PSG will be in result pioli's team is having a smaller chance to pass the group stage.
Acmilan needs to beat PSG to make sure the team is still havnig chance.

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October 05, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
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The next game for Newcastle will be key. If they win their home game against Dortmund, I would say that they have amost made it through the group stage unless they lose all of their last 3 games. I know there is still some speculation involved because the group is so close, but the team that has a head start in this close group is probably one of the teams that comes out successful. They have the goal advantage against PSG or they would have to get slaughtered. They have a home game against AC Milan and did not concede a goal there. They are in a great position to master the hardest group of this Champions League season.
Newcastle United are unbeatable after two matches in their group and you are right, a next match with Dortmund will be a key for them to open a gate to the next round. If they win over Dortmund at their home stadium, they will secure their first position in this group and a second half of this group will be less pressure for them.

Dortmund are not weak as they shown that they managed to get a draw with AC Milan just like how Newcastle United did. The match between Newcastle United and Dortmund will be very balancing in theory but with a home stadium advantage and fan support as well as current good mentality, Newcastle United do have chance to win. The challenge for them does not come from Dortmund but come from themselves. After beating PSG with a big result, will they keep calm to host Dortmund?

This is a big issue for their coach and players because if they play carelessly, Dortmund are good enough to exploit Newcastle United's careless and even can take three points to go home. This group is very tightly and Newcastle United must be very careful in a next match.

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October 05, 2023, 10:55:10 AM
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It was too bad for Milan that there was no win yet. They drew with Dortmund, they drew with Newcastle. These draws are bad because PSG have 3 points, Newcastle have 4 points and Milan only have 2 points. Their next match is against PSG. The two decisive matches for PSG will be against Milan. Newcastle instantly became the favorites of the group.
Milan's next match will be even more interesting to watch because Milan will face PSG who are currently in second place in the group standings. So Milan must try to win so that they can put themselves in that position by eliminating PSG from that position because these two teams have a real chance of taking second place in the group by winning in the next match. Although there is another possibility for PSG if Newcastle is unable to win the next match.
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October 05, 2023, 10:55:49 AM
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Milan's performance will be at a level that can increase over time. Even though they seem to be a little behind for now, they still have a chance to get out of the group. The Newcastle matches will be decisive for them. They drew in Milan in the first match, but they must beat them in England. Milan is also a team that can win against PSG. They just haven't shown their strength yet.
Watching part of the Dortmund vs AC Milan match, both of them didn't want to give in to each other. As a result, I get quite bored if there are no goals scored in the match. Leao and Giround also couldn't create opportunities that could be converted into goals. It's a shame that AC Milan has played 2 matches without any results.

I watched Newcastle against PSG in the second half and was shocked that PSG had to submit at the opponent's home ground. Newcastle is difficult to predict when it is considered a club that is not yet able to play in the UCL. In fact, it has proven that now, by successfully defeating PSG, Almiron et al have become more confident in continuing to play optimally.

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October 05, 2023, 11:02:29 AM
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I think we can all agree that Ten Hag is ruining United for 2 years already , right ? This guy simply won't give up on his believes of how to play offensive football and it's clearly that with United his strategy won't work no matter how hard he tries so I hope he will be out until winter break.

Also , how the hell did Arsenal lose ? I've made a post regarding Arsenal and how bad they are playing when they face "weaker" teams in UCL and I was correct ...they played awful and deserved to lost.

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October 05, 2023, 11:04:02 AM
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Watching part of the Dortmund vs AC Milan match, both of them didn't want to give in to each other. As a result, I get quite bored if there are no goals scored in the match. Leao and Giround also couldn't create opportunities that could be converted into goals. It's a shame that AC Milan has played 2 matches without any results.
They tried and had some opportunities to find a winning goal but their shots are not too good and sometimes their players made bad decisions between shooting and passing the ball to their team mates. Like a situation when Leao passed the ball to Pulisic, if Pulisic returns the ball to Leao, AC Milan would have had a better chance to score goal but the American player shot by himself and wasted that chance.

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I watched Newcastle against PSG in the second half and was shocked that PSG had to submit at the opponent's home ground. Newcastle is difficult to predict when it is considered a club that is not yet able to play in the UCL. In fact, it has proven that now, by successfully defeating PSG, Almiron et al have become more confident in continuing to play optimally.
The match is very hot for discussion recent hours because no one expected PSG to lose with that big defeat. They can win, draw or even lose the match but with this big result, it's a big shock. Newcastle United were not predicted to make surprise in this group as they are newbies in Champions League. But after their win against PSG, they are going to be an underdog in this season. A next match with Dortmund will help us to see Newcastle United chance in this group more clearly.

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Interesting how everyone here is discussing the PSG game last night... But to be honest, I'm not surprised that Newcastle were able to destroy them... PSG have a lot of problems now, while Newcastle are playing their first season in the Champions League and have already managed to make a good result... Seen jokes about Newcastle being the new Man City this season... Grin
I never thought that PSG was a scary club, they don't have players who are good enough to play in the UCL therefore I never thought they could qualify for the final or semi-finals of the UCL, the clubs that are more respected in the UCL at the moment are Munich, City and Madrid, of course, these three clubs are more favored than PSG, Mbappe will never be successful if he stays at PSG.

I believe Mbappe needs a new club to make his name big again, if he joins Madrid it will certainly be better because Madrid will be full of talented young players so Mbappe can win the title he wants, apart from that Newcastle's victory cannot be said to be like City , because they have not met other great clubs, winning against PSG is not something great Grin
PSG's level is completely different from last season because this season they had to lose Messi, Neymar, and Marco Verratti. Although they signed Dembele, Kolo Muani, Manuel Ugarte, and several other players but this does not necessarily improve their performance because what is certain is that the new players still need adaptation, so it will take more time for solid teamwork and chemistry.

Meanwhile, Newcastle has a squad with very strong chemistry. They don't have many star players but they always play with confidence and high motivation.

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October 05, 2023, 11:18:52 AM
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Its impressive for Newcastle to be able to beat PSG with a big score and I remember previously when in the 1st match Newcastle against Milan were only able to draw with a score of 0-0 and we all know how Milan performance in the UCL was very strong and from the previous match I felt there was something improving Newcastle was different so they were able to beat PSG with a score of 4-1. with this success, Newcastle has increased enthusiasm to continue to perform consistently in the next round and Eddie Howe will also feel very proud of his team who were able to perform with the right strategy and I believe that in the next match they will be against Dortmund and will be able to beat or at least draw because Dortmund also had the same performance as Milan with a final score of 0-0.
It was too bad for Milan that there was no win yet. They drew with Dortmund, they drew with Newcastle. These draws are bad because PSG have 3 points, Newcastle have 4 points and Milan only have 2 points. Their next match is against PSG. The two decisive matches for PSG will be against Milan. Newcastle instantly became the favorites of the group.
This is really strange a team which is having second-best attack in Serie A fail to score any goal in Champions League in 180 minutes in presence of Giroud, Pulsic and Leao, but we have good thing for them as they are still in good position for the qualification even now needs some good performance.

Because things are not easy in future games specially while they will be having two games against PSG which is also lost against Newcastle United at St James Park and now try to bounce back in coming matches most chances we will have no good time for the Dortmund because they are having not good time with their performance next game against Newcastle United which is looking for the another win at home and Dortmund is surely having not good record in away games.

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October 05, 2023, 11:19:58 AM
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Newcastle are considered to be the most inexperienced team in Group F. This team is new to the Champions League platform. However, they are now top of the table. They got a great win against PSG. I thought the match might be competitive. But in the match we saw the dominance of Newcastle players. After sharing the points against Milan in the away match, the team got a great win in the home match.

However, Group F has become more competitive. Milan have drawn both of their matches. On the other hand, the Dortmund team is strong but they have earned only 1 point in two matches. Milan and Dortmund will surely battle it out in their next match to climb the table. Every match in Group F will be very competitive.

There is something more important to this win and that is the margin by which they won. If they end up being equal in points with PSG and they share rank 2 and 3, the direct comparison will decide which team will advance to the next stage in the Champions League and which team will be relegated into the Europa League. Winning 4-1 can be so important because PSG would have to beat Newcastle at least 3-0 to then have the goal difference decide about the order in the table. I think that's one reason why this defeat is really bad for PSG. It raises the pressure even more for the next games.

Exactly, this victory for Newcastle against Paris Saint Germain has double significance for the standings as you have clearly specified, from now on every match will be fought until the end and in my opinion Milan is the one that risks the most for the moment, at least that manage to get at least one win against PSG in the next two matches

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October 05, 2023, 11:23:24 AM
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It was too bad for Milan that there was no win yet. They drew with Dortmund, they drew with Newcastle. These draws are bad because PSG have 3 points, Newcastle have 4 points and Milan only have 2 points. Their next match is against PSG. The two decisive matches for PSG will be against Milan. Newcastle instantly became the favorites of the group.
Milan's next match will be even more interesting to watch because Milan will face PSG who are currently in second place in the group standings. So Milan must try to win so that they can put themselves in that position by eliminating PSG from that position because these two teams have a real chance of taking second place in the group by winning in the next match. Although there is another possibility for PSG if Newcastle is unable to win the next match.
Milan will play 2 consecutive matches against PSG and these matches are very important for both teams. PSG and Milan both want to advance to the next round. The 2 matches to be played between Newcastle and Dortmund will be very important for Newcastle. They beat PSG and need two wins against Dortmund to lead the group.
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October 05, 2023, 11:28:53 AM
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This is really strange a team which is having second-best attack in Serie A fail to score any goal in Champions League in 180 minutes in presence of Giroud, Pulsic and Leao, but we have good thing for them as they are still in good position for the qualification even now needs some good performance.

Because things are not easy in future games specially while they will be having two games against PSG which is also lost against Newcastle United at St James Park and now try to bounce back in coming matches most chances we will have no good time for the Dortmund because they are having not good time with their performance next game against Newcastle United which is looking for the another win at home and Dortmund is surely having not good record in away games.
This proves that AC Milan's front line is not that good, in Serie A the AC Milan team has not met a tough opponent but in this UCL group they are in a very strong team, Dortmund is not an easy opponent to beat and also the Dortmund team has a mentality. which is quite strong in UCL matches.

And so far Newcastle is a team that has a big chance of qualifying from the group after they won with a big score against PSG and in the 2 matches that have been played we can see which team has good strength this season, and in my opinion The one that is really developing is Newcastle.

In the next match, Newcastle, who will play at home, will be able to win again.
While AC Milan against PSG is difficult to predict, these two teams are difficult to predict because both are often inconsistent.
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October 05, 2023, 11:33:43 AM
Last edit: October 05, 2023, 11:44:21 AM by 3meek
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Yesterday's matches made me a good profit... By the way, it was PSG who caused the most nerves but managed to take the last corner in the last minutes of the match... Probably Newcastle vs PSG was the most difficult game for many, especially upset those who thought that PSG will win... I hope that Newcastle will continue to play as well...


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October 05, 2023, 11:35:19 AM
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Can't just explain what went wrong with Les Parisiens but it seems that the players are not fit or suffering from fatigue. They were relatively outsmarted and bulldozed by the Newcastle player. I know Mbappe can't wait to leave this club because he needs to chase his dreams somewhere else.
PSG is lack of good players, there are still many mediocre players in their club. Take a look with Newcastle where they don't have any super stars, but all their players are in good quality.

I disagree for Mbappe can't wait to leave PSG, if he want to leave PSG, he wouldn't renew his contract until 2026.

PSG will not able to win Champions League as long as they only focus to sign star players.

It would have been hard for me to believe if someone had told me that Newcastle would defeat PSG, but I saw it with my own two eyes yesterday. This indicates that PSG's performance in the Champions League this season will not improve, and that PSG will find it very challenging to win the competition. The team lacks players with strong attacking skills; all of the team's players are big boys and many of them do not mark. This is especially true of the forward players in PSG; they dislike going to the line well and that is the most important factor that affects them. Meanwhile, we all know how strong Newcastle is from last season; they consistently outperform their opponents.

This is a terrible shame for mbappe; I don't think he'll have a successful football career. He had the chance to play for any team, but he chose to sign a new contract with psg out of financial necessity. If mbappe had the heart of a mature player, he would not be acting the way he is acting towards bl. In fact, I'm beginning to believe that psg is even in control of him. I think that mbappe will finally understand what is best for him. Real Madrid tried everything within their power to sign mbappe this season, but in the end, he let them down. My suggestion to real Madrid at this time is to not even consider pursuing him again, and instead to leave him to suffer at the hands of the psg squad.

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