UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[MAAManda]

Barcelona will be able to advances to the round of 16 and i am sure about that but the question is how far Xavi will be able to bringing this team because we all know previously Barcelona can't talk more on European competitions even on season 2022 at Europa league Barcelona have to eleminate on quarterfinal and at that time Barcelona status as the favourite but unfortunately they were lose from Frankfurt

I'm also sure of that, historically Barcelona has never disappointed in the UCL group phase, what is their new challenge with the current squad is about how they can survive in the elimination round. With what they went through last season, Xavi must already know what their problem is and we will most likely not see another chaotic performance from Barcelona this season in the UCL.

However second team who possibly will qualified is Porto and last season Porto can able advances to round of 16 with finish at first place on group stage and now i think they have good chances to repeat their achievement again because on the paper Royal Antwerp and Shakhtar Donetsk quality is below to them

Never underestimate Shakhtar Donetsk, they can even hold Porto to a draw in their last 2 meetings. Shakhtar still has a big chance in group H, who has no chance at all I think is only Royal Antwerp.

[Oneandpure]

Royal Antwer is a very easy opponent for Barcelona and Barcelona should get a very easy win in this match. If Barcelona do not make any big mistakes against Royal Antwerp in the Champions League, Barcelona will definitely win this match by a big margin. Barcelona are very lucky because they have an easy opponent where other teams would be up against tough authorities. As much as we think Royal Antwerp is an easy opponent, Barcelona should take this team as a difficult opponent because if taken as an easy opponent, then Barcelona will definitely perform poorly, as a result of which Barcelona will lose the chance to do well in this match. Opponents are never easy, opponents are always hard to beat. People who take opponents easy can never do well.

Current UEFA Champion League group stage drawing, Barcelona are in the weakness opponent teams and seems easily for qualifying to next round but must defeat FC Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk are favorite teams in Group H. First Champion League match, Barcelona have easily and weakness opponent teams Royal Antwerp and should take three points to make next journey easy against FC Porto.
In domestic league, Royal Antwerp still not reach top performance and Barcelona should take advantage how to get three points easily and large chance for qualifying to knock out stage after failure last two season in a row in group stage. I think Barcelona have great chance if can defeat between FC Porto or Shakhtar Donetsk will get opportunity manage as top or second standings position in Group H for qualifying to the next round.

[Altryist]

I watched Barcelona's performance in the champions league last season. Their main weakness was their defense.  Barcelona's defense was very poor against Champions l eague teas . And due to poor defense, the team had to concede a lot of goals.  And the overall condition of the team was also somewhat weak. But the team's condition has improved this season. The barcelona team is now strong enough . The performance of their defense and attacking players is stable now. barcelona's midfield has also been strengthened with the addition of gundagon to the squad. And this is why barcelona is a tough opponent for any team in this year's champions league. The team has the ability to challenge any team...

Barcelona played differently in the Champions League last season than in La Liga, and you are right, the defense was not as reliable. Barcelona lost the main battle to Inter, as it turned out to be the finalist of the tournament, so their group was indeed very difficult. This season everything turned out much better for them, the group is not so strong and they will certainly be able to play in the playoffs. Moreover, Barcelona is now a better team, Xavi had enough time to draw conclusions from past mistakes.

[rahmad2nd]

Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

These two teams showed different situations and performances. Bayern has a positive trend after playing three matches with easy wins, while Manchester United has several problems within their camp. Tuchel seems quite ready with his team's squad to play match after match in various competitions.
In contrast to United, Ten Hag experienced problems with several players suffering from injuries and at the same time his team's squad had not yet shown their best performance. an unfavorable situation for the Red Devils, especially since their opponents in the first match were quite a strong team. Bayern has the advantage of playing in front of its own public, while also having better depth than United.

So, it would be very natural if Bayern were far superior in the meeting between these two teams. However, that doesn't mean that Thomas Tuchel's squad will defeat the Red Devil easily, considering that Ten Hag is a coach who has many strategies. So, after all, Manchester United cannot be underestimated. Moreover, they have a very deadly counterattack quality. So far, we don't have much information about the two teams in the upcoming match. So, let's just wait. I just hope that both Man United and Bayern Munich will present an exciting and interesting match.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Only Mbappe is not enough to make a strong team and PSG need more than him to have a strong attacking system and a strong team need more player resources. Asensio and Dembele came as replacements for Messi and Neymar but those players won't contribute too much for PSG proactive defense at their frontline. It is not important in matches with weak opponents but is very important when facing against biggest opponents in Europe. Losing a ball and don't chase opponent players to stop their counter attacking at the frontline, it will cause nightmare for PSG defenders and goalkeepers.

Isn't it true that when there were many star players at PSG, their results in the UCL were not good? So maybe making Mbappe the main center will be easier to manage.

Galtier was always putting mbappe as the main center. Mbappe played in the same position as this time. I saw no contribution has come from asensio while dembele is still rarely making contribution to the club. I can't tolerate it if PSG needs more time to build its chemistry but it must be done quickly. PSG will meet some strong clubs in upcoming matches. The club was also being placed in the difficult group as well. It will be hard times for PSG to beat another club and improve its performance at the same time.

The current PSG coach is quite experienced and knows how to sail in the UCL competition. Asensio and Dembele don't need to be substitutes for Messi and Neymar because being themselves and playing with their abilities will be much better. There's no need to burden yourself just because of Messi and Neymar's previous positions. If PSG wants to make changes then the solution is to move on and be confident in their abilities without having to rely on the legacy of Messi or Neymar.

Asensio and dembele have already speculated to fill messi and neymar's positions. These guys have not been expected to be the same as messi and neymar. There will be only 1 neymar and messi.
The new club needs time to adapt. PSG is still having mbappe to rely on with.

For me Galtier was the only and great culprit of PSG's failures, when Ney and Messi were there it turns out to be very impossible that they could not win any important championship, so it turns out to be something shameful in reality, but it is also the sheikh's fault, because if I see that I have practically the best coaches in the world at the moment and that I have not achieved anything, obviously I am not going to even though it is because of them , it is because of the coach, so these types of things are what we should think are those that influence a team, but not only does this happen in the French team, this is also happening in a PL team where they do not realize that the main culprit of the failures is the technical + direct, because the players are very good, it is impossible to blame the players, there is no logic present there, because they are what make them have a good team and make the difference, but if they direct them in a bad way it is not possible for them to achieve good results, This is what happens when there is no discipline in lcub.

Now the technical director there is not reliable at all for me, he is a technical director who has many things that are blunders, he let Neymar go , he only likes to play with very young players and apart from everything they are players like that without experience, the The only thing that should not be removed from the world is Mbappé, and that's because Mbappé does make a difference here, even though he is a player who has a big ego and that's why he can't play well, that's what I think here in This case is that if Mbappé leaves PSG it seems very bad to me for this team, not only for Ligue 1, but for the UCL, because how can they be at the top if there are no good players ? Everyone has the best way to make a Strategy , at least with a world star, and if he leaves , I don't think they can go that far, neither in Ligue 1 , nor in the UCL , and I don't see a Mbappé in either Real Madrid, I think that will be his fulfilled dream or through his own fault.

[hahay]

Barcelona will be able to advances to the round of 16 and i am sure about that but the question is how far Xavi will be able to bringing this team because we all know previously Barcelona can't talk more on European competitions even on season 2022 at Europa league Barcelona have to eleminate on quarterfinal and at that time Barcelona status as the favourite but unfortunately they were lose from Frankfurt

I'm also sure of that, historically Barcelona has never disappointed in the UCL group phase, what is their new challenge with the current squad is about how they can survive in the elimination round. With what they went through last season, Xavi must already know what their problem is and we will most likely not see another chaotic performance from Barcelona this season in the UCL.

However second team who possibly will qualified is Porto and last season Porto can able advances to round of 16 with finish at first place on group stage and now i think they have good chances to repeat their achievement again because on the paper Royal Antwerp and Shakhtar Donetsk quality is below to them

Never underestimate Shakhtar Donetsk, they can even hold Porto to a draw in their last 2 meetings. Shakhtar still has a big chance in group H, who has no chance at all I think is only Royal Antwerp.

It's funny how you can believe in Barcelona but you don't believe or consider Xavi abilities. In fact, Xavi is the head coach of Barcelona and of course, the results Barcelona get depend on how Xavi prepares and builds Barcelona to be better. But yes, if we consider the teams in group H then of course, Barcleona has a big name there which is a favorite to win the group. But even if Barcelona were to qualify for the round of 16, it is likely that Barcelona would still find it difficult to go further. So maybe, it looks like Barcelona will only get to the quarterfinals, that too if they are lucky.

[ILuckyGuyI]

I can agree with you on Barcelona's getting lucky about the draw. Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar all are not big competitions for Barcelona. Maybe Porto can make big difficulties in Portugal but I don't expect the same in Spain. Barcelona should be able to finish this group as the first and make up for their poor performances in the recent years.

Xavi has been highly criticized because of the team performance in the Champions League in the recent times. They were performing really poorly in especially big games and this caused them to say goodbye to the Champions League early. Barcelona don't deserve a result like this considering their quality.

I believe in Barcelona to make it to the quarter finals at least unless they face a huge challenge in last 16.

[Oluwa-btc]

Under Ten Hag, the team has struggled. They won two times in summer and gained 6 points. Ten Hag's moves often fucking terrified us. The trade window's lack of good players is a major issue. Seven goals in four games have plagued the defense. Ten Hag's last loss to Arsenal showed that their plans aren't working. The Champions League appears to be struggling. Bayern Munich is in the same group as Galatasaray, making it difficult to beat them. I think management must fire Ten Hag if he can't steer the ship. Fans don't think things will improve, and the future seems bad

If Man United continues to experience a decline in performance, Ten Hag will certainly see posters of his name in the fans stands asking him to leave. However, I think the addition of Sofyan Amrabat will make a contribution to the Red Devils squad, the duet that Ten Hag wants in midfield with Casemiro will come true. When Mason Mount is available again, I think United will return to stability.

If they can be consistent in the EPL for the next match, they can achieve the runner-up position in Group A in the Champions League. With the condition that Galatasaray and Copenhagen must be conquered first.

Posters shown should rather be direct to Manchester United owners who have done nothing but stolen funds which should have been invested back into the Manchester United.
The midfielder's look solid, the confidence and ball confidence needs to come from those defenders. The defense so far should be the point to focus on. Mason Mount hasn't blend into Manchester United.

They should have a good game against Brighton if the right players are on the pitch. Asides Manchester City, Brighton has got to be the best when it comes to positional plays and build from the defense. They should cause Manchester United headache.
Manchester United should be second in the Champions League group stages. We'll see to that.

[Falconer]

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Yes, Barcelona is lucky enough to be in the same group as Royal Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk, ideally they will get through the group phase easily, but the reality is that we don't know whether Barcelona can get through easily or not.

September 20 they will have their first UCL match and face Royal Antwerp, playing at home will certainly be the basis of their motivation, 3 points are in sight it seems.

Nothing should be easy because each team will give their best to win the match. Barcelona, ​​which actually has superior quality and experience, is certainly expected to win the match easily, but in fact, several mistakes could also make them fail to win the desired points.

Barcelona is playing at home, it's good for them so people will think it's their stage. However, the Champions League has something that is difficult to predict, although we do not hide the fact that a team like Barcelona was able to overcome the resistance of a team like Royal Antwerp without any significant problems.  I agree Barcelona can win that match, but I hope it won't be easy.

[Hyphen(-)]

It's funny how you can believe in Barcelona but you don't believe or consider Xavi abilities. In fact, Xavi is the head coach of Barcelona and of course, the results Barcelona get depend on how Xavi prepares and builds Barcelona to be better.

Xavi is a good coach with the potential to become a great coach, like Ancelotti, Morinho, Pep Guardiola, Arsene Wenger, Farguson, and others, but his current experience is insufficient for him to be referred to be a great coach, which is why he struggled in his first season at Barcelona.

Furthermore, the departure of Messi and other Barcelona players had some effects on the squad even before his arrival, but he is doing his best to develop a team that will be competitive, as he won the La Liga title last season ahead of Real Madrid. As a result, Barcelona's performance is dependent on his ability and effort, as he attempts to develop a strong and competitive team.

But yes, if we consider the teams in group H then of course, Barcleona has a big name there which is a favorite to win the group. But even if Barcelona were to qualify for the round of 16, it is likely that Barcelona would still find it difficult to go further. So maybe, it looks like Barcelona will only get to the quarterfinals, that too if they are lucky.

Barcelona is the favorite team to top Group H because they have a great squad and have more experience than any other team in the group. Although FC Porto and Shakhtar have some experience in Champions League football, Barcelona has the chance to qualify at the top of the group ahead of them.

[ajiz138]

Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.

If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.

I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.

[sana54210]

It seems that Bayern Munich have solved their attack problem with the signing of Harry Kane. Harry Kane is a solid attacking player, especially in the UEFA Champions League. He will be full of confidence and passion for Bayern Munich because he came here to win trophies. Already, he has shown his full confidence since his first match. He scored three goals in four appearances and provided an assist. Bayern Munich's first UCL match against Manchester United will be very exciting because Harry Kane already understands Manchester United and would be a key player against Manchester United. Bayern Munich is looking more promising in the UEFA Champions League than in previous seasons. They have made some good changes in their tactics, which we are seeing in league matches. Which they are dominating.

The arrival of Harry Kane boosted confidence in them, just as it did when they signed Mane, but that confidence dropped following Mane's failure to live up to expectations. Now Kane looks better than Mane, but I personally can't be sure if he will really continue to be consistent and better over time. Overall, I don't see much difference in this team, there are just some improvements that I see, one of which is in the attacking line.

Bayern definitely didn't need boost of confidence because they have won it about 11 times in a row now if I am not wrong, which means that yes last year was way too close but that doesn't mean that they are going to feel threatened by any other club, they are the ones to beat and the best club in all of Germany.

The problem is that we are talking about a team that would be a bit different on the long run and this could raise some serious issues as well. I feel like it is going to end up with some sort of trouble if they are not careful and this should be the most important part of the deal. I realize that it is not going to be something that would change much on the long run but they are doing fine with Kane too.

[Unknown01]

Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.

If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.

I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.

Many believe that ManU will be promoted to the next round from the group at least as second, but I see a difficult game not only against Bayern Munich but also against Galatasaray Istanbul. The Turks have made very good transfers and will certainly be able to cause problems for Manchester United.

[Adams0001]

this season Xavi should be lucky enough not to be in the hell group. I think getting through the group phase is quite easy for Barca, they are the favorites to qualify. especially with the player material that Xavi has in the current Barca squad. of course, even City should consider Barca. unlike last season, Xavi failed, but they won't repeat that this season.
Xavi has prepared everything well, as well as his request to the club to bring in several important players at this time. I think those who have just been brought in by Barca will help the team in the Champions League.

Yes, Barcelona is lucky enough to be in the same group as Royal Antwerp, Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk, ideally they will get through the group phase easily, but the reality is that we don't know whether Barcelona can get through easily or not.

September 20 they will have their first UCL match and face Royal Antwerp, playing at home will certainly be the basis of their motivation, 3 points are in sight it seems.

We don’t need to be dwelling too much with teams like Barcelona, not when they are in a very less competitive position to advance to the next stage of the competition. I just feel the remaining three teams in the group can go and battle between themselves who will be the runner up to Barcelona in that group.

Football is full of uncertainty, but in a case like this where the odds are very clear and we can see it, we don’t need to think maybe, or, if maybe, before we can conclude on who will advance to the next round. Barcelona will qualify and I feel and think that it’ll be very much easier for them to get the qualification than any other team in their respective group stages.

[Furious 7]

Because in this case he has his own way of doing the match and their goal is victory regardless of how the tactics they show, they don't really care about that.

For us football lovers it's not interesting but for Simeone and Atletico who are the players as long as they get good results then they will definitely do the same.
Actually looking at the group conditions, they should be favorites and more able to play more freely in the group phase but it depends on Simeone whether they will try a high dominance style or a bus parking scheme with full defense after scoring a goal and making the match less interesting to watch.

for me they are the favorites to win the group, whether they play defense or counter-attack it makes little difference, Lazio, Feyenoord and Celtic don't see them strong enough to compete for first place! it will certainly be a very balanced group, especially to compete for the second place available for the round of 16. but we would have better certainties at the end of the first round

As I said, they are definitely the favorites but it would be great if they tried to implement a better scheme instead of just continuing to park the bus because looking at the current conditions they benefit because the group is filled with balanced strength and not too strong.

As for Celtic and Feyenoord this will not be easy for them, in terms of popularity, Feyenoord and Celtic are below Lazio and Atletico but indeed they still have the opportunity to compete for runner up and even if they fail the 3rd position they can still grab.

[Leviathan.007]

Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.

If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.

I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.

Many believe that ManU will be promoted to the next round from the group at least as second, but I see a difficult game not only against Bayern Munich but also against Galatasaray Istanbul. The Turks have made very good transfers and will certainly be able to cause problems for Manchester United.

Talking about Group F for this tournament I think that's easy to say which teams are going to get into the net stage and pass the grouping stage among the four teams we see. Because the possibility for Copenhagen to beat teams like Bayern Munich and Manchester United is very low, the only chance for us to see a surprise is to see Galatasaray having a better performance than Manchester United because we know Bayern Munich is the first chance in this group with Tuchel.
In fact, they hired Thomas Tuchel to have a better performance in the Champions League and obviously, we expect them to pass this stage.
 

[Zaguru12]

This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.

If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.

I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.

Two things are the reason why the bookmakers have placed Bayern as the favourite for this encounter, first The Allianz Arena is not an easy ground for any team to visit. The only club that were able to visit the stadium and always win comfortably was the Real Madrid team. Manchester United are not upto that level of success just yet. Secondly Manchester United have one of the worst away records since the arrival of Ten Hag and with all this put together it is clear that a Bayern win is clearly more feasible. But as football might have it I would also bank on the devils to put up a show against their biggest opponent in this group.

If Manchester united actually loses to probably a large margin against Bayern then I think it will great affect how their season will shape up going on. But if it is a statement win then they would be pump to go a very long way in the competition and could also be the moral support they need Also in the league

[CLS63]

As I said, they are definitely the favorites but it would be great if they tried to implement a better scheme instead of just continuing to park the bus because looking at the current conditions they benefit because the group is filled with balanced strength and not too strong.

As for Celtic and Feyenoord this will not be easy for them, in terms of popularity, Feyenoord and Celtic are below Lazio and Atletico but indeed they still have the opportunity to compete for runner up and even if they fail the 3rd position they can still grab.

To be honest this should be a very comfortable group for Atletico Madrid. They have a really lucky draw for the groups. Even Lazio aren't much close to Atletico Madrid's level at the moment. Because Lazio didn't start the season well. Feyenoord and Celtic both are much weaker teams than Atletico Madrid already.

The placements in the group can be like this:

1. Atletico Madrid
2. Lazio
3. Feyenoord
4. Celtic

I believe Celtic are the weakest team here. Feyenoord can bring some competition to Lazio maybe but I still expect Lazio to stay ahead of them.

[flipme]

Many believe that ManU will be promoted to the next round from the group at least as second, but I see a difficult game not only against Bayern Munich but also against Galatasaray Istanbul. The Turks have made very good transfers and will certainly be able to cause problems for Manchester United.

Yes, we made some very good signings this season, and we were already a good team. But we came into the Champions League group stage from pot 4. I think there are very few teams that come into the group stage from pot 4 and make it to the next round.

I wanted a team that could win all 6 games from the first pot and Bayern Munich are exactly what I wanted. But Manchester United are not an easy team. If there was an easier team from the second pot instead of Manchester United, I would say that we have a good chance to go through to the next round, but this picture is not very encouraging for me.

[Docnaster]

Manchester United first match in the UCL it was against Bayern Munich, I'm not too sure Manchester United can get points in that match even if it's only one, considering that Ten Hag squad  in several away matches in the EPL their performance has drop. Bayern Munich, which this season has improved in defensive line and attack line, will make it very difficult for Ten Hag to think of the perfect tactics in that match. Even, Bookie currently gives odds for Bayern @1.59 while for Manchester United @5.20, in that match Bayern Munich is the favorite to win.

This first trip to the Allianz Arena is quite difficult for Manchester United to win there.

If the difference from the odds is very far maybe because of the difference in their performance, one of which is Erik Ten Hag's team which is said to be inconsistent, this Champion League sometimes has different games, but with the appearance in the PL it will not be much different.

I haven't checked the betting markets yet as it's still a week away there could be a slight change from the bookies with the odds increasing.

Many believe that ManU will be promoted to the next round from the group at least as second, but I see a difficult game not only against Bayern Munich but also against Galatasaray Istanbul. The Turks have made very good transfers and will certainly be able to cause problems for Manchester United.

Talking about Group F for this tournament I think that's easy to say which teams are going to get into the net stage and pass the grouping stage among the four teams we see. Because the possibility for Copenhagen to beat teams like Bayern Munich and Manchester United is very low, the only chance for us to see a surprise is to see Galatasaray having a better performance than Manchester United because we know Bayern Munich is the first chance in this group with Tuchel.
In fact, they hired Thomas Tuchel to have a better performance in the Champions League and obviously, we expect them to pass this stage.
 

The fact is that a club like Copenhagen can't progress to knockout stages in a group that consists of Bayern Munich Manchester and Galatasaray. That being said, I strongly believe that Galatasaray might be joining Bayern Munich to the knockout stages of this season's UEFA Champions League competition if Manchester doesn't  take their games very serious.
The Turkish club has been in fine forms since the start of the season and are expected to continue their brilliant performances in the UEFA Champions League. So apart from Bayern Munich who's squad in the group is the most intimidating, any other team can progress alongside the German champions