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September 12, 2023, 03:27:17 PM
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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

In group B the favorite candidate is Arsenal, as we know this English club has added ammunition to strengthen its team squad. They are quite ready to play their matches in various competitions with a competitive squad, despite several of their players being injured. As for Sevilla, we can't be sure, especially if we refer to their performance in their domestic league competition. Bad results in matches can be a reference for how this team plays its matches in the Champions League competition. although, there is no definite guarantee about the quality of their play when playing their matches in this league.
Well, if Sevilla wants to qualify for the next round. At the very least, they have to beat Lens, who are performing poorly in their domestic league. plus, Sevilla must overthrow PSV. although it seems that PSV has a bigger chance if we refer to their performance in their domestic league.

In Group F, I can't even be sure how PSG will play the match. Even though they seem to be the favorite team, their opponents are not easy teams to beat. Milan, is currently performing quite impressively. while Dortmund cannot be underestimated, even though they are not showing good performance. but in fact, they are unbeaten in league competition. Even though they only won one of their three matches, the rest ended in a draw. well, the most unstable is Newcastle. experienced three defeats from the 4 matches they played. Nevertheless, every team we mentioned in this post. still have time, at least to prepare for the match later.

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September 12, 2023, 03:28:50 PM
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Some teams could be great at their own league but I do not see Bayern being able to win the UCL this season to be fair. City once again looks like the best team and should be the important case, it should be important to get it done. I get that it is not going to be easy for them to beat all those good teams on their way but if they have a lucky draw and face easier opponents on their way to the finals then they could maybe have a chance.

When it comes down to a single game to win, I feel like Bayern has a better chance to play with their 100%, they look much more disciplined and they may get that win, so finals might be very important to them. Lets see how they look during the season itself and how they improve.
Its dominance in the Bundesliga is no longer in doubt, whereas Borussia Dortmund, which is thought to be able to break Munchen dominance, has also not succeeded in doing so. Regarding the Champions League competition, in general I agree with your point. It can be said that Munchen will go smoothly in the group phase, at least finishing in second place is enough to advance to the quarter-finals. If the quarter-finals are met with easy opponents, of course, the really tough opponents will be in the semi-finals and finals.

However, I have seen Bayern Munchen fail several times in the Champions League Final, even though this season they deserve to be on the favorites list. The addition of Harry Kane and Kim Min Jae is a form of FC Hollywood seriousness in winning the UCL trophy, but this cannot be a guarantee. I feel that Munchen was really strong in the UCL when they were still supported by Riberry, Robben and Lewandowski, after that Munchen looked normal.

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September 12, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
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To be honest Group F is the only group in this tournament I think any team that loses this Champions League would be a great miss, Newcastle had an amazing performance in the last season in the Premier League, especially in the last weeks of the season which made us think this team can even have a chance the Champions League, also Dortound even after losing the players they sold is still strong teams in Germany and they are usually on top of the table, PSG had many changes and now they are the hopping even win this tournament.
Every match in Group F will be very interesting so those who miss any of the Group F matches will miss out on a competitive match in the Champions League. With teams like PSG Newcastle Dortmund in Group F, you can imagine how competitive every match in Group F will be. Newcastle, who performed brilliantly last season, will surely perform well this season, while PSG or Dortmund can shine this season.  Group F teams who have watched hope they don't miss any Group F matches.
Yes, you are right, this match, especially Group F, will indeed be a very exciting match because big clubs are in this group, even like Paris SG who have to fight Newcastle and AC Milan, which will really be a very tight competition and for Borussia Dortmund I say club This definitely won't be able to last long in every match because I'm not sure about this club's performance.
So I will just focus and bet on the matches of all of Group F except Dortmund, which disappointed me as a fan last season.

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September 12, 2023, 04:01:09 PM
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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.
Group B is a group with normal difficulty, Group A and C with hard difficulty and group F with challenging difficulty.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

I would rather than pick group A or C as a difficult group compared with group B. Lens and sevilla are still performing the worst in the domestic league. No reason for arsenal to lose against those clubs which are still showing horrible and inconsistent performances.

The group F is considerable as the most difficult group this season. You can compare that if group a has some strong teams like MU, Bayern and Galatasaray.
Group C has some strong teams like Napoli, Madrid, Berlin. The group B has only arsenal as the strongest team. Even though sevilla was winning europa league but its performance is far from good.

Arsenal shall have beaten it easily without a tough game. In fact, arsenal is also inconsistent team. I remind you that how arsenal was losing last season in europa league.


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September 12, 2023, 04:45:05 PM
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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

Perhaps, with the inclusion of Ramos in the Sevilla squad, it could be that Sevilla will also have a good chance of becoming the runner up in this group. But yes, at least Arsenal are clearly favored, because from last season Arsenal have also managed to improve their performance in the Premier League. So, with that success, then at least Arsenal have a good chance also this season to be able to advance or qualify for the round of 16 in the Champions League.

But about group F, I think every team in group F has the same chance to qualify for the next phase. Because in my personal judgment, PSG also does not have a strong guarantee to qualify. Because PSG still relies heavily on Mbappe to improve the team's performance, and in my opinion it is a bad way.

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September 12, 2023, 04:53:37 PM
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the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
Between PSG, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, I am quite optimistic that PSG and Milan will qualify. Without doubting Dortmund or Newcastle, it's just to see the difference in their respective strengths also in terms of the squad where PSG might have the task of fixing the midfield, Inter needs a sharp forward, Dortmund without Bellingham needs to implement a new format and Newcastle will clearly still be groping in the midst of the dark experience of playing at UCL after a long time.

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September 12, 2023, 04:53:50 PM
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Maguire and Evans are too slow and they will be dead points in Manchester United defense system when facing with young and very speedy attacking players of Bayern Munich. Hope that Manchester United will not use both central defenders in the match.
I don't think it would be possible for Erik Ten Hag to use these two defenders in such an important match against Bayern Munich. Manchester United must continue to use its two main pillars for defense, namely Varane and Martinez. We know that the best options currently are only these two defenders and if there are other options, maybe Lindelof can replace one of them.
To be honest, i will not watch manchester united's match if ten hag will use those guys to play against bayern as starting line up.
Bayern is having coman and sane which are having good speed. Martinez sometimes made the same mistake as Maguire, but he is better than Maguire to play as CB against Bayern. Mu is still having lindelof that can play as CB as well.
I will stop watch MU if ten hag will put evans and meguire into the game. I don't wanna see MU to be humiliated by bayern in allianz arena.  

But I hope that not only the Red Devils defenders will perform well, but Onana will have to give a good performance and make lots of saves in the match. What's more, we can only hope that Manchester United will not lose badly in this match because after all, Bayern Munich is still one of the strong candidates to win the Champions League title every season.
Onana needs to play safe rather than doing some unnecessary thing like going up. Getting a draw is a very good result for manchester united. United is facing a crisis on its defensive line. I hope that reguilon can start his debut in EPL before he may be used in the match against bayern.
Reguilon can give alternative solution for ten hag.  

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September 12, 2023, 05:19:19 PM
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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

The truth is group B is out that discussion unless if football happens later. We know that Sevilla are sick in performance and Lens is not different in poor performance but you see PSV and Arsenal, those guys are going to make it out to the 16 rounds without any disqualification. Each of them, not looking into their past performance, their current forms speaks well of them, they will no doubt make it to the that stage and I'm even rooting for Arsenal to try harder because after many years of trying hard, they can't give away this chance and their squad are even well prepared already by Arteta.

However, group F is hard as hell, I'm sure PSG will make it though, then the rest can fight for the second place to qualify for the next stage, it's a difficult call to even make, using their domestic league performance may even be misleading.

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September 12, 2023, 05:32:18 PM
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the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
Between PSG, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, I am quite optimistic that PSG and Milan will qualify. Without doubting Dortmund or Newcastle, it's just to see the difference in their respective strengths also in terms of the squad where PSG might have the task of fixing the midfield, Inter needs a sharp forward, Dortmund without Bellingham needs to implement a new format and Newcastle will clearly still be groping in the midst of the dark experience of playing at UCL after a long time.
The two teams you mentioned have made a lot of favorites in group F. But obviously for me it's going to be tough and who knows Dortmund might be more interesting than Newcastle?

Milan currently have no faults in Serie A, they can get stronger in the Champions League matches of course they will face with full consistency even I think Milan will be above PSG.

Newcastle seem to be a dark horse, their hesitation is when in the erratic Premier League, so the umpteenth time many people compare will still have the ability like in the previous season that's what I think.

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September 12, 2023, 05:45:02 PM
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The truth is group B is out that discussion unless if football happens later. We know that Sevilla are sick in performance and Lens is not different in poor performance but you see PSV and Arsenal, those guys are going to make it out to the 16 rounds without any disqualification. Each of them, not looking into their past performance, their current forms speaks well of them, they will no doubt make it to the that stage and I'm even rooting for Arsenal to try harder because after many years of trying hard, they can't give away this chance and their squad are even well prepared already by Arteta.

PSV and Arsenal are very lucky. Because their opponent was Sevilla and Lens was not a weak opponent. But they are in very bad form now. Both are at the bottom of their respective leagues. And so the road to qualification for the knockout rounds has become wider for PSV and Arsenal. It is unlikely that these two teams will get back on track very quickly and start playing well. If PSV and Arsenal can maintain some consistency they will be able to qualify for the round of 16.


However, group F is hard as hell, I'm sure PSG will make it though, then the rest can fight for the second place to qualify for the next stage, it's a difficult call to even make, using their domestic league performance may even be misleading.

Group F can be called Group of Death. Every team here is very strong. And every team has equal chances to qualify for knockout round. PSG team can be said to be the strongest team in the group. But how they will play in the Champions League cannot be said for sure. Because they lost Messi and Neymar. However, coach Luis Enrique will definitely try his best to qualify for the knockout round.

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September 12, 2023, 06:01:41 PM
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the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.
Between PSG, Dortmund, Milan, and Newcastle, I am quite optimistic that PSG and Milan will qualify. Without doubting Dortmund or Newcastle, it's just to see the difference in their respective strengths also in terms of the squad where PSG might have the task of fixing the midfield, Inter needs a sharp forward, Dortmund without Bellingham needs to implement a new format and Newcastle will clearly still be groping in the midst of the dark experience of playing at UCL after a long time.
Of all this team in this group I think Dortmund is the team I don't really believe in, Dortmund is not a team one can rely on due to their performance. As for PSG it is very sure they have the strength to qualify, Newcastle and Milan are good performing team which I don't really know which is more better but as for Dortmund I know they are the least in performance in the group.  I'm not expecting much from Dortmund, I see them as a team that is not yet ready for champions league.

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September 12, 2023, 06:06:42 PM
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Group B is an easy one for Arsenal. They can even win all of their matches if they concentrate on all of them equally. They might be a young team now but they are still way more powerful than all of their opponents in this group. The only competition might be made by PSV against them but I think Arsenal wouldn't struggle against them too much either.

This feels like no different than a Europa League group honestly. I remember Arsenal and PSV in the same group there before.

When it comes to Sevilla's chance in this group I think they will finish behind PSV if they don't improve their current performance.

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September 12, 2023, 06:58:37 PM
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Group B is an easy one for Arsenal. They can even win all of their matches if they concentrate on all of them equally. They might be a young team now but they are still way more powerful than all of their opponents in this group. The only competition might be made by PSV against them but I think Arsenal wouldn't struggle against them too much either.

This feels like no different than a Europa League group honestly. I remember Arsenal and PSV in the same group there before.

When it comes to Sevilla's chance in this group I think they will finish behind PSV if they don't improve their current performance.

At least, if we consider the results they have in their respective leagues at this moment, then of course Arsenal remain the favorites to win group B. Because after all, teams like Sevilla and Lens at this moment they are also experiencing bad results in their respective leagues. Even Worse, Sevilla and Lens at this moment are stranded in the relegation zone in their respective leagues. But about PSV, although PSV remains in the upper zone in the Eredivisie standings, but at least the Eredivisie and Premier League levels are different, and that factor also makes us believe Arsenal can have good dominance in this group B. But even so, I personally feel that Sevilla and PSV can still have good results too in this grup, and of course it is still not easy for Arsenal to be able to win consecutive wins in this group.

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Its dominance in the Bundesliga is no longer in doubt, whereas Borussia Dortmund, which is thought to be able to break Munchen dominance, has also not succeeded in doing so. Regarding the Champions League competition, in general I agree with your point. It can be said that Munchen will go smoothly in the group phase, at least finishing in second place is enough to advance to the quarter-finals. If the quarter-finals are met with easy opponents, of course, the really tough opponents will be in the semi-finals and finals.

However, I have seen Bayern Munchen fail several times in the Champions League Final, even though this season they deserve to be on the favorites list. The addition of Harry Kane and Kim Min Jae is a form of FC Hollywood seriousness in winning the UCL trophy, but this cannot be a guarantee. I feel that Munchen was really strong in the UCL when they were still supported by Riberry, Robben and Lewandowski, after that Munchen looked normal.
Bayern Munich is always named as one of the favorite teams in every edition of the Champions League. Last season they were also favorites, but failed and are still failing. Of course their success in the Champions League has not been the same compared to several seasons ago, but Bayern Munich is still a strong team in this competition.

Bayern Munich's squad depth this season is good, but I don't make them the main favorites to win the title. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Inter and Bayern Munich are the order of favorites this season in my opinion, but all this is just my assumption based on the performance of each team so far.

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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

Group F is a complete death group. PSG, which participated in the draw from the first pot, may even have a chance of finishing fourth in the group. Newcastle played great games against big teams last year and is full of players with a lot of experience. The most difficult team to draw from the fourth pot has been drawn. It seems like every team has equal strength in this group. It's really hard to predict who will come out on top. For bettors, it will be full of matches to stay away from.

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September 12, 2023, 10:09:10 PM
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Guys only two groups are difficult to know who are gonna pass into the 16 round/phase.

And this two groups are B: Sevilla Arsenal PSV Lens, with Arsenal as a favorite, and the group F: PSG Dortmund Milan Newcastle,  in this one we dont ahve a clear favorite but seems like PSG its a step ahead and Newcaslte also.

If I had to make a prediction based on the two groups you provided, I would easily know which ones to qualify with a little if? Which I understand might sometimes be insignificant. In the group of Sevilla, Arsenal, and PSV, PSV is the least likely to advance from the group stage, hence Arsenal and Sevilla will go to the knockout stage, while PSV will be moved to the Europa League. In terms of recent European competitions, Arsenal and Sevilla have far more experience than PSV.

Following the achievements of the teams in Group F last season and thus far this season, it is easy to predict that PSG and Inter Milan will make it out of the group stage. Newcastle are new to the league and lack experience, while Dortmund are inconsistent in their excellent performance and cannot compete with PSG or Inter Milan, who finished second in last year's competition. Dortmund and Arsenal will compete for third place, but PSG and Inter Milan will advance to the competition's knockout round.

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September 12, 2023, 10:16:56 PM
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Group B is an easy one for Arsenal. They can even win all of their matches if they concentrate on all of them equally. They might be a young team now but they are still way more powerful than all of their opponents in this group. The only competition might be made by PSV against them but I think Arsenal wouldn't struggle against them too much either.

This feels like no different than a Europa League group honestly. I remember Arsenal and PSV in the same group there before.

When it comes to Sevilla's chance in this group I think they will finish behind PSV if they don't improve their current performance.
Arsenal got a good spot I must concur and PSV has always been a worthy competition in getting  the team the three points they need. For the preliminary stages, I ain't scared until it gets to when the pressure of premier league and other league matches starts bumping weekend in, weekend out.
What the gunners need is a team that doesn't lack stamina or whose muscles bow to cramps once the game gets above 90minutes.

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September 12, 2023, 11:53:39 PM
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Group B is an easy one for Arsenal. They can even win all of their matches if they concentrate on all of them equally. They might be a young team now but they are still way more powerful than all of their opponents in this group. The only competition might be made by PSV against them but I think Arsenal wouldn't struggle against them too much either.

This feels like no different than a Europa League group honestly. I remember Arsenal and PSV in the same group there before.

When it comes to Sevilla's chance in this group I think they will finish behind PSV if they don't improve their current performance.
Arsenal got a good spot I must concur and PSV has always been a worthy competition in getting  the team the three points they need. For the preliminary stages, I ain't scared until it gets to when the pressure of premier league and other league matches starts bumping weekend in, weekend out.
What the gunners need is a team that doesn't lack stamina or whose muscles bow to cramps once the game gets above 90minutes.

PSV can be a difficult team and I really wonder how competitive they can be against Arsenal. This year, Arsenal is starting to work with Arteta to avoid making the mistakes they made last year. They managed to become a young and offensive team. I don't think PSV can withstand them.

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September 13, 2023, 12:25:01 AM
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Group B is an easy one for Arsenal. They can even win all of their matches if they concentrate on all of them equally. They might be a young team now but they are still way more powerful than all of their opponents in this group. The only competition might be made by PSV against them but I think Arsenal wouldn't struggle against them too much either.

This feels like no different than a Europa League group honestly. I remember Arsenal and PSV in the same group there before.

When it comes to Sevilla's chance in this group I think they will finish behind PSV if they don't improve their current performance.
Arsenal got a good spot I must concur and PSV has always been a worthy competition in getting  the team the three points they need. For the preliminary stages, I ain't scared until it gets to when the pressure of premier league and other league matches starts bumping weekend in, weekend out.
What the gunners need is a team that doesn't lack stamina or whose muscles bow to cramps once the game gets above 90minutes.
I remember that if PSV was a team that was also in the same group as arsenal in europa league last season. It seems like that PSV is the only strongest team in that group after arsenal. I must admit that if sevilla and lens clubs were performing so badly.
I think that the match between arsenal vs PSV will be very interesting caused by arsenal was also losing in the last match against PSV in europa league last season.

Arsenal was always dominating the game with more ball possessions, while PSV was always using counter attack. Arsenal needs to be careful as PSV was strong enough in beating arsenal.
This is will be an entertaining match for sure.

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I think group E also interesting to see because in my opinion at least 3 teams who had equal chances to qualified and probably only Celtic can be considers as underdog team because Atletico Madrid, Lazio and Feyenoord are equally strong and about Lazio finally after 3 years they can return to champion league again and last time they were playing at this competition on season 2020 at that time Lazio finish at second position but unfortunately at round of 16 they have been eliminated by Bayern Munich

Besides Lazio i am will looking forward to see Feyenoord performance this season because they came as Eredivisie champion status and that's why UEFA placed them in the pot 1 for drawing pot but last time they have been playing in this competition is 6 years ago and Feyenoord have to eliminate early because they have been displaying poor performance because Feyenoord only can able to gets 1 win from 6 matches and i want to know whether they can able to advances to the next stage or not because basically they placed into easy group

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