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February 25, 2024, 09:01:50 AM
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Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.
I also think so, for the second goal the goalkeeper cannot be blamed because it was a goal that should have occurred and if Onana managed to thwart that opportunity then he deserves to be given appreciation, which means that if a goal occurs it doesn't mean he can be blamed.
This is like the goalkeeper's position in a penalty shootout, when a goal is scored it's normal if they succeed in thwarting the penalty kick which means the goalkeeper deserves to be appreciated.

Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.

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February 25, 2024, 09:11:46 AM
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.

The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.

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February 25, 2024, 09:22:44 AM
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Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.
The defeat against Fulham meant that Manchester United winning streak had to end, losing in that match made it even more difficult for Manchester United to get into the top 4 and I think their chances of reaching the top 4 will be even more closed if Tottenham can win against Chelsea in the postponed match and make the goal difference will be bigger, for now we can see how dependent Manchester United is on Hojlund so that when Hojlund is absent it makes Manchester United's attack line quite dull, besides I think Manchester United's defeat cannot be separated from their poor defense and also Onana who made mistakes even though able to perform several saves in that match, the defeat against Fulham brought Manchester closer to again setting a record for the most home defeats in one season because Since 2020/2021, this is the first time Man United has experienced eight home defeats in all competitions, while the worst record is nine times lost at home in one season, which occurred in 1973/1974.

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February 25, 2024, 09:46:03 AM
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The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.



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February 25, 2024, 10:04:53 AM
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I really don't understand some websites. Sometimes they write like a player is injured and won't play. But on matchday we see that player in the starting eleven or on the bench... They should be more careful with sharing news.
It would be very bad if Salah got injured again when the team was in a position like this. Liverpool must win all their matches if they want to become premier league champions. They are hunting for the title with City. We know City is a very dangerous rival and they will try to displace Liverpool from the top of the standings. But as you said, sometimes the media writes that players are injured but actually it's just a minor injury. I'm not interested in the EFL Cup but I hope Salah can play in all the remaining games in the Premier League.
I do agree that Salah is a very important part of Liverpool team and without him they are not going to be all that amazing. However, they should start looking to replace him already, they replaced almost everyone in that team and yet they are not really making any strides, that just doesn't make sense to me at all.

I understand that they are not looking all that crazy at the moment, but they are at least trying their best one way or another. I think the most important thing right now would be just making sure that it is not going to be all that much mattering eventually. I believe that we are going to end up with some troubles if Salah is not replaced soon, dude is getting older and has to be replaced eventually.

Salah is a very important piece of the puzzle for Liverpool. And I believe Liverpool is also very lucky to get the service of a player like him. But at the same time, I absolutely agree as well that they should really be looking forward for a replacement as soon as possible. I really wonder how it is going to be after Jurgen Klopp. This is a news that even got me to be a little sad and I am not a big Liverpool fan.

Exactly, missing him gave a very big impact to the performance from liverpool. I was feeling quite disappointed when i have heard that if salah was injured. I thought that if it was only a dream but that's happened. It was also affecting the club a lot. The attackers have lost their instict to play better without salah.
Nunez was also missing caused by injury too which is making the situation even more difficult for the club. It is not an easy task for Liverpool to find a replacement, but it is something they need to do. There have been reports suggesting that Liverpool is already considering potential replacements for Salah in the winger position, should he choose to depart from the club in the near future.
Things are going even harder since liverpool will be losing klopp as a good architect owned by the club. I do support liverpool to play better compared to the last season. Things are not going easy for the club but im sure livepool will able to find his replacement in the future.
We are still far away from the end of the season but many fans were talking about various possibilities that could be taken by the club. Yet the problem that will appear caused by the leave of klopp from liverpool has not yet solve.d
Liverpool is yet to finding a suitable replacement for him . This needs to take some times for liverpool to get a new coach to replace him in the club.

Anyway coming back to the point of Muhammad Salah being replaced, yes it has to be done. And if Liverpool is available to find a suitable replacement, they will genuinely suffer for a period of time.
Liverpool has ever named a candidate to replace him but i think that this can also change with the goes of time. Im thinking about mbappe which can become the best replacement for him but since mbappe puts very expensive price to get him and im not really sure if liverpool was willing to approach him.
There's no sign showed by liverpool to sign mbappe. This club was never talking about this too. It's quite weaird how journalist can argue that liverpool took another step to get mbappe.

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February 25, 2024, 10:10:33 AM
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The defeat against Fulham meant that Manchester United winning streak had to end, losing in that match made it even more difficult for Manchester United to get into the top 4 and I think their chances of reaching the top 4 will be even more closed if Tottenham can win against Chelsea in the postponed match and make the goal difference will be bigger, for now we can see how dependent Manchester United is on Hojlund so that when Hojlund is absent it makes Manchester United's attack line quite dull, besides I think Manchester United's defeat cannot be separated from their poor defense and also Onana who made mistakes even though able to perform several saves in that match, the defeat against Fulham brought Manchester closer to again setting a record for the most home defeats in one season because Since 2020/2021, this is the first time Man United has experienced eight home defeats in all competitions, while the worst record is nine times lost at home in one season, which occurred in 1973/1974.
So true. This defeat meant that Man United had no hope of finishing in the top four because the point difference with Aston Villa was very large. And breaking Man United's winning streak, this was also Man United's first defeat this year.

In this match, the Man United players made a lot of mistakes, always losing duels, always losing fights for the ball, and the front players didn't want to work together. The ball should have been passed but it still went nowhere, it was really boring to see Man United's ridiculous game. The referee gave nine minutes of additional time as a chance of victory for Man United. However, Fulham said differently, they managed to provide a surprise in the final minutes. Fulham's 2-1 victory over Man United was Fulham's first win at Old Trafford since 2003. After 21 years, Fulham finally managed to break their egg.

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Mind you, Arsenal has also lost narrowly during the previous fixture they've played in the Premier League Competition. It was due to VAR not doing a good job.
The lose to Porto wasn't expected honestly, but what's happened cannot be changed they have to focus on the fixtures ahead right now. if things goes as planned, then Arsenal would be able to score more than two goals. How they play tonight would definitely reflect on the game against Porto during the Champions League.

Manchester United bottled them chances and of closing the gap with Tottenham Hotspur. Wow mich expectations from them and they failed to respond well, some would blame it on the coach again!

It is good that you mentioned VAR as well. It brought really bad decision made to my mind even though the league has a really nice system like VAR. It is really shameful to see simple mistakes with even a useful technology in hand. These systems are developed to help the referees but some referees are still managing to leave a bad impact on a match with bad decisions.  Sad



I agree about Arsenal's goal potential. We have seen it in a couple of PL matches they played not much time ago. They did it against Newcastle yesterday too. They are the second most scoring team of the season now but I don't know if this would end up with their championship. We need to see what they will do on the last weeks of the season.

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February 25, 2024, 10:30:17 AM
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So true. This defeat meant that Man United had no hope of finishing in the top four because the point difference with Aston Villa was very large. And breaking Man United's winning streak, this was also Man United's first defeat this year..

Overall United played quite well last night. They can control the ball and have many opportunities. But as you said they often make mistakes. Their performance was unlike the previous few matches. To be honest I thought the match would end in a draw but surprisingly Fulham scored a goal in the 97th minute through Alex Iwobi. It was a very dramatic goal and I'm sure Ten Hag was also surprised by the goal. Aston Villa is now 8 points ahead. It's difficult for Manchester United if they hope to get a ticket to the Champions League.

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February 25, 2024, 11:18:34 AM
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Manchester United 1 : 2 Nigeria Fulham boys
I know you will be surprised at the title of my post but that is just the reality. The Nigerian defender and midfielder in this concluded AFCON in the person of Bassey and Iwobi were the goal scorers for Fulham that enabled them trash Manchester United today. I don't know if I will say that it is the effect of the successful AFCON they played.

In the other hand, Manchester United did not do enough to secure 3 points for them. Even when their former captain Harry Maguire tried to make them go home with 1 point, it was all to no avail.

What do you mean successfull AFCON? Believe me it has nothing to do with this game. Your heading makes no sense and has nothing to do with lose of Manchester United.
The game was played with eleven players and if you want to take a good look at the build up to the goals scored by Alex Iwobi and Calvin Bassey all have come from them players. ( Adams and former Manchester United player  Perrera )

They did well I must say, they played like they wanted to win the match. I don't put much blames on Erik Ten Hag he has been working with the players within.
The Injured Casemiro affected Manchester United even if I know that Fulham United hurt Manchester United irrespective of his presence innthr first half.

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February 25, 2024, 11:32:59 AM
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The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.

Manchester united was not even leading the game and this shall be evaluated by ten hag. Manchester united was playing so differently after it has been rotated by ten hag caused by rashford was playing as an attacker. The things are going even worst after iwobi was scoring another goal during injury time.
This makes MU has no hope to get at least 1 point when it was playing at home. I can see that how frustrated manchester united against fulham. People were seeing fulham as inferior club but things are changing so fast. Manchester united could not perform even better without hojlund.
Rashford is performing so badly as an attacker and this is also making the situation even worse for the club. I think that if everything can change anytime. Ten hag needs to be aware with the club and he shall not be stupid enough by not signing a new striker.

Manchester united really needs to get a new striker to help the club caused by once hojlund was injury and there was no good striker available to play in the club. It seems ten hag never trust martial anymore to play in the main squad and he prefers to use rashford as a striker which is so crazy.
I think that ten hag shall be nominated as the worst coach ever. He can't even put respect to his players and he was also putting his ego as his top priority. Martial can perform but ten hag refuses him to play against fulham.
This is another setback for manchester united for sure. Im thinking that united will able to perform better compared to the last match as long as ten hag will able to do proper rotation for the squad of manchester united. He needs to learn a lot from the match against fulham.

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February 25, 2024, 12:05:04 PM
 #1751

Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.

Manchester united was not even leading the game and this shall be evaluated by ten hag. Manchester united was playing so differently after it has been rotated by ten hag caused by rashford was playing as an attacker. The things are going even worst after iwobi was scoring another goal during injury time.
This makes MU has no hope to get at least 1 point when it was playing at home. I can see that how frustrated manchester united against fulham. People were seeing fulham as inferior club but things are changing so fast. Manchester united could not perform even better without hojlund.
Rashford is performing so badly as an attacker and this is also making the situation even worse for the club. I think that if everything can change anytime. Ten hag needs to be aware with the club and he shall not be stupid enough by not signing a new striker.

Manchester united really needs to get a new striker to help the club caused by once hojlund was injury and there was no good striker available to play in the club. It seems ten hag never trust martial anymore to play in the main squad and he prefers to use rashford as a striker which is so crazy.
I think that ten hag shall be nominated as the worst coach ever. He can't even put respect to his players and he was also putting his ego as his top priority. Martial can perform but ten hag refuses him to play against fulham.
This is another setback for manchester united for sure. Im thinking that united will able to perform better compared to the last match as long as ten hag will able to do proper rotation for the squad of manchester united. He needs to learn a lot from the match against fulham.
Before the match against Fulham, Man United had 4 consecutive wins, but of these four matches, there was not a single match where Man United played with an impressive performance. Their playing rhythm is always monotonous and their defense line seems to have many weaknesses. Luckily they have Hojlund who is in his best form and it was proven already when Hojlund couldn't play, victory became a tough mission for Man United.

Apart from their defense which is filled with old players and players who don't have pace, Man United's midfield actually has a pretty good composition of players. But for some reason, they don't seem to have strong chemistry and some of them even look very selfish and reluctant to make passes when their teammates are in a good position to score a goal.

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February 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM
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Manchester united was not even leading the game and this shall be evaluated by ten hag. Manchester united was playing so differently after it has been rotated by ten hag caused by rashford was playing as an attacker. The things are going even worst after iwobi was scoring another goal during injury time.
This makes MU has no hope to get at least 1 point when it was playing at home. I can see that how frustrated manchester united against fulham. People were seeing fulham as inferior club but things are changing so fast. Manchester united could not perform even better without hojlund.
Rashford is performing so badly as an attacker and this is also making the situation even worse for the club. I think that if everything can change anytime. Ten hag needs to be aware with the club and he shall not be stupid enough by not signing a new striker.

Manchester united really needs to get a new striker to help the club caused by once hojlund was injury and there was no good striker available to play in the club. It seems ten hag never trust martial anymore to play in the main squad and he prefers to use rashford as a striker which is so crazy.
I think that ten hag shall be nominated as the worst coach ever. He can't even put respect to his players and he was also putting his ego as his top priority. Martial can perform but ten hag refuses him to play against fulham.
This is another setback for manchester united for sure. Im thinking that united will able to perform better compared to the last match as long as ten hag will able to do proper rotation for the squad of manchester united. He needs to learn a lot from the match against fulham.
It seems you are right that Manchester United without the presence of Rasmus Hojlund is just like a weak club because in the last few wins Rasmus Hojlund has contributed to scoring goals and I really understand why Erik Ten Hag really relies on this player because he really has better skills in terms of scoring. score.
I also thought that yesterday's match would end in a draw because both clubs gave each other resistance and defended their defenses together and indeed the score scored by Fulham's players in the last minute I never thought before that it was like the luck that Fulham got in yesterday's match.

Yesterday, Fulham seemed to have received a special gift from Manchester United, with Alex Iwobi being very fortunate in being able to score in the final minute which shocked the entire audience.
This is a valuable lesson for Erik Ten Hag not to just rely on one player but to develop the talents of MU players who are currently still able to appear on the field and if they only depend on Rasmus Hojlund, MU's future will not be as bright as last season.

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February 25, 2024, 01:26:02 PM
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Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.
Onana's criticism from fans is not his fault, but a result of the general team's performance. Onana before now in his previous teams was as good as ever, he won awards and made good name for himself. His move to Manchester United and his performance afterwards surprised everyone because suddenly, he began to concede consistently and it was disappointing for the club as a whole. Do not blame Onana for his flops, Manchester United right now needs reformation, their defense, midfield, attack and team management as a whole needs to be fixed.

 Manchester United has suffered series of set backs in both team management and match outcomes, sometimes it's the manager's fault, sometimes the individual players, sometimes it's everyone's fault at thesame time. But I'd say that the manager is to be blamed fully because he's the overseer of the team and he has the capacity to make corrections when things go wrong so no matter how much a player is blamed, you won't tell me that the manager didn't also see the defaults in that player and make a move for his replacement. United's squad from back to forth are world class and I believe they just need the right hand. Let's use Onana as an instance, the major reason why he was signed by United was a result of his top notch performance with Ajax and now here's what they get. They need a new strategy, they also need a new managerial atmosphere, maybe that's where the jinx lies. Hopefully, they'd work on themselves and bring back the fighting spirit Onana experienced in his last teams.

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February 25, 2024, 02:05:31 PM
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Mind you, Arsenal has also lost narrowly during the previous fixture they've played in the Premier League Competition. It was due to VAR not doing a good job.
The lose to Porto wasn't expected honestly, but what's happened cannot be changed they have to focus on the fixtures ahead right now. if things goes as planned, then Arsenal would be able to score more than two goals. How they play tonight would definitely reflect on the game against Porto during the Champions League.

Manchester United bottled them chances and of closing the gap with Tottenham Hotspur. Wow mich expectations from them and they failed to respond well, some would blame it on the coach again!

It is good that you mentioned VAR as well. It brought really bad decision made to my mind even though the league has a really nice system like VAR. It is really shameful to see simple mistakes with even a useful technology in hand. These systems are developed to help the referees but some referees are still managing to leave a bad impact on a match with bad decisions.  Sad



I agree about Arsenal's goal potential. We have seen it in a couple of PL matches they played not much time ago. They did it against Newcastle yesterday too. They are the second most scoring team of the season now but I don't know if this would end up with their championship. We need to see what they will do on the last weeks of the season.

It's twenty years and counting since the gunners last win the Premier League Competition, just like Erik Ten Hag said, Era's comes to an end and I do believe that,, this season has got to be that season you dig?
They offf course deserves to win the Premier League, my only problem with them is that they have no depth in the Premier League Competition.

But if we're to judge them base of the form they're currently, it'll be difficult for a team like Manchester City to beat Arsenal without bias. That game against Chelsea and Manchester City next month would definitely decide who should ne above who!

Arsenal scoring much goals makes me excited,  they're now following the steps of Josep Pep Guardiola. I see ahead they will need that goals to top the league. The one point gap between themselves shows how competitive this season has been in general.

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February 25, 2024, 02:44:58 PM
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The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.

They were feeling so desperate, the goal from king meguire was not able helping MU to secure 1 point at home. That's horrible result, and that is why there are so numerous memes are being created by so numerous people on X. The main problem is manchester united was not playing the same like the previous games.
It is only a dream for united to enter into the UCL if the club is still playing like shit. We can't deny the fact that if manchester united must be playing even better compared to the previous matches. It's ten hag's job to push his club to play better compared to the previous games.
I think that manchester united can't also rely upon hojlund to be an attacker for the club. United needs also to have a backup for him and what's wrong with ten hag? he was not even using martial as a secondary striker that available for the club,.

Ten hag is being so selfish with his decision. He was not even thinking about the club but he was only deciding based on his ego. i don't like this shitty coach that is still managing united atm. Ten hag can be fired by united at the end of the season.
He was noy even thinking about how to win the game. The fuck is wrong with him? No doubt if people keep try to blame him caused by his decision was costing the club a lot. It was also making the situation become even more terrible for united. The fans were so upset with him.

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February 25, 2024, 03:06:07 PM
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Looks like Wolves will take another 3 points despite the fact that once again they did nothing greater than their opponents and yet they fool football every weekend but as long as it work. Unfortunate this is the only game we got today in EPL but tomorrow West Ham vs Brentford should be a game with over 3.5 goals as both teams like to score and play offensive football and rarely we get to see a draw from them so that's why I do expect a lot of goals.  Grin

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Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.

It was a very bad performance by United. It's not like they lost due to bad luck, Fulham looked better than them in that game.
It's pretty clear that they're lacking in the attack department, they only have 36 goals scored, while any of the top 3 has around 60, so that's a huge gap. They have the least goals scored in all the top 12 in the table.
Ten Hag will have to start making changes or he'll be on his way out. Fans could have been somewhat satisfied with the 3rd place last season (despite finishing 14 points behind the City), but not even making to the top 5 will be a disaster for the 3rd richest club in the Premier League.

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February 25, 2024, 05:54:11 PM
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Blaming Onana for the second goal actually in my opinion is too imposing and seems ridiculous because it just wants to give a mistake to him considering Onana often makes blunders but for this match it was too much when Onana was blamed.
There are some reasons that I think are forced if it's still blaming Onana. The second goal came with a quick counter-attack that was difficult to anticipate. Indeed in this case Onana was not in his coverage area and did not seem to want to force himself to move but I think that would not have happened if there was proper guarding for Iwobi because we know that with the fast counter-attack that was done actually Iwobi was without really good guarding which made him very easily able to score in this match while silencing Manchester United with a score of 1-2.

Onana in this match made saves that were actually very good and I think that is quite commendable, it's just that it seems like Ten Hag always tries some players like Mainoo who is used as a defensive midfielder even though he is very good as a second striker.
The loss of Hojlund is also very impactful in terms of Manchester United's attack because his finishing is still compromised.
I also think so, for the second goal the goalkeeper cannot be blamed because it was a goal that should have occurred and if Onana managed to thwart that opportunity then he deserves to be given appreciation, which means that if a goal occurs it doesn't mean he can be blamed.
This is like the goalkeeper's position in a penalty shootout, when a goal is scored it's normal if they succeed in thwarting the penalty kick which means the goalkeeper deserves to be appreciated.

Basically, the overall performance of the Manchetser United team was not optimal in this match and it was very unfortunate that when the Man United team had managed to equalize, they continued to apply pressure so they forgot about their defense and the losing goal came at the end of the match.

And Hojlund is a hot topic of conversation now, when Hojlund is absent Manchester United's front line performance is very poor.
This means that it is clear that Hojlund is currently the most influential player on the front line of the Manchester United team.
We've focused so much on Onana reaction to doing nothing that it's almost as if it's his fault when in hindsight he can't really be blamed for this because after all, seeing an unguarded shot in an inopportune position was entirely the first fault in terms of poor teamwork and counterattack anticipation.

Ten Hag seemed to try too much in this match even with the same formation but we can see that some players were put in the wrong positions which made it a bit worse for them.
He should be aware that Manchester United are currently without Hojlund who has performed very well in recent matches, but Ten Hag insists on trying new formations where players are placed in positions that are not ideal, which makes them less active in attack and defense.

This is a defeat after they won very well in the last few match although this is a little bad when talking about performance but at least this is a good lesson for them to realize that their performance is still far from perfect.

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February 25, 2024, 06:15:00 PM
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Before the match against Fulham, Man United had 4 consecutive wins, but of these four matches, there was not a single match where Man United played with an impressive performance. Their playing rhythm is always monotonous and their defense line seems to have many weaknesses. Luckily they have Hojlund who is in his best form and it was proven already when Hojlund couldn't play, victory became a tough mission for Man United.

Apart from their defense which is filled with old players and players who don't have pace, Man United's midfield actually has a pretty good composition of players. But for some reason, they don't seem to have strong chemistry and some of them even look very selfish and reluctant to make passes when their teammates are in a good position to score a goal.

Now take a good look at this four match and consider who or those players present and those players absent. Tell me if you get to fish out any changes or update.
Manchester United actually has seen like three players out already due to Injuries and they're, Luke Shaw, Rasmus Hojlund and Casemiro during the game yesterday against Fulham United.

It's not like Fulham didn't play badly, but they shouldn't have graced the opportunity they had to penetrate through Manchester United midfielder's that way if Casemiro was present for the full game.

At times I feel like the hyeo also gets to players like Marcus Rashford, Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo as they've all dropped a good form they had. Most disappointing has to be Marcus Rashford, taje a good look at what he earns, these lad should have never been given the price rise or salary rise. What Nonsense!!!

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The title sound so funny but the message is well understood since the goal scorers were involved in the just concluded AFCON namely Bassey and Iwobi. Manchester United failed to win at home making Fulham to get their first away win this season i think the away team was better in the game even though they were unable to convert their chances but winning before the stoppage time gives them nothing but joy. The goal of Harry Maguire was supposed to make them share 1 points each but United still fell short as they conceded a late goal from Alex Iwobi the Nigerian player.
Manchester United was frustrated at the end of the game. They couldn't get three points at Old Trafford against an average club. Fulham coach, Marco Silva understands the game and ensure he plays according to plans, he defended all the important areas on the pitch, just relaxed and watch Erik Ten Hag and his men struggle for a draw tie but couldn't maintain 1-1 after equalizing, another dangerous counter was trigger by Fulham and a goal was conceded on the hosts end. Shocking to see both Fulham players that puts their name on the scoresheet are from Nigeria.
Manchester united started the game well, but they began to experience some problem from the midfield which is their major problem that is making them not to reach the 4th position in the premier league competition which their coach need to find solution to solve it from the team before it will be too late.

 Fulham won that game by luck because Manchester united really dominated the ball more than Fulham, but Fulham used their opportunity well in the second half to add another goal to beat Manchester united 1:2 to achieved the 3 points from the game.

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