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Author Topic: ⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽  (Read 46892 times)
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August 18, 2024, 04:32:03 PM
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Many people say that this is not a real match for Liverpool, because their opponents were not tough, only newly promoted teams that still adapt on premier league. the real match will be come when they meet MU on next 2 week. But at least, even if their opponent is not strong, Slot was proved if he can adapt well with the atmosphere premier league. all issues he denied well after made the big winning, 2-0. I think with this winning, Liverpool was made good initial capital to the next step. The big team on premier league will watch them carefully.
Yes, Arne Slot has indeed proven that he can help Liverpool win their first match in the Premier League. However, many people will not be satisfied because it is not a very tough match for them. The win was important for Liverpool at the start of the season, but of course it will not be a benchmark that Arne Slot is a really good coach to replace Klopp. There are many tough matches that will await Liverpool in the coming weeks, so we'll just have to wait and see how the slot process at Liverpool goes this season.

Meanwhile Chelsea vs Manchester City is taking place with high game tension. Chelsea excelled in dominating ball possession, but Manchester City played more effectively and they were 0-1 ahead of Chelsea. I'm looking forward to the second half which will be no less good, there will be a lot of action that I hope for, some goals will probably be scored between the two teams playing.

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August 18, 2024, 04:59:05 PM
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The bigger clubs that competed in this first match, they all managed to win from their opponents. This was a satisfying first match though.

This is quite an interesting match between Newcastle vs Southampton. Fabian Schar got a red card in the 28th minute. So Newcastle played with only 10 players, their ball possession dropped drastically, their defense was very threatened, but they were able to take advantage of the only opportunity to score a goal and were able to defend the goal from many opponent attacks. Cool, for Newcastle.

Unforgettable moment

Source: Newcastle United's Fabian Schar headbutts Southampton's Ben Brereton Diaz

Fabian Schar messed up. I asked myself always if that act was really necessary. Honestly, in my opinion he shouldn't have done that. Up in my head, I don't feel like it was meant to be red carded but the match officials has also done their own part of every. It was great of them to see that they went ahead to win that game after the goal for joelintino.

Well, I don't think I have seen enough of how good Arne Slot has been for Liverpool but I will pay close attention next week most definitely
They're also amongst clubs that played well during the first fixture of a new season.

Could the end score for this game between Chelsea and Manchester City be 1-1?

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August 18, 2024, 05:14:31 PM
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Chelsea again? I thought there will be changed in the new season but it seems that things are still remain the same. This were the reasons why people were saying that they should signed some players so that they can do well in this season. Manchester City is playing well more than from the beginning. E. Haaland was assisted by B. Silva to scored the goal. This is their first leg and they would have done well to bypass this first stage.

And the Match is about to end and yet they are not doing well in the second half.

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August 18, 2024, 05:23:55 PM
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Kick off day with an interesting Chelsea Manchester City today.
How many bus Chelsea used to bring players for the game?

Joke asides, should be an easy win for Guardiola once again and they will reach Arsenal on the top.

This year it should be a race between them, I can't see anyone else able to keep their pace.
The match between Chelsea vs Manchester City has entered the 90+1th minute now, both teams are currently playing quite impressively and are endangering each other opponents goal, but it is clear that Manchester City is very dominant and continues to aim for additional goals to ensure their victory today, currently the score it's still 2-0 for Manchester City win and I think this score will probably last until the end of the match considering that Chelsea seems to be having a very difficult time scoring goals against Manchester City, Chelsea actually have a lot of chances in today match but instead they attacker looked very messy when in front of Manchester City goal.

Chelsea has  many brought their main squad today, and they even brought a lot of strikers today to face Manchester City, but their weakness lies in their very poor defense and the two goals that were scored did not show any hard work from the Chelsea defenders for prevent that the goal happen.

Not only are the fans disappointed but Todd Boehly immediately left the stadium after spending a lot of money and actually saw their team playing very badly at the match.  Cheesy

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August 18, 2024, 05:25:31 PM
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Chelsea again? I thought there will be changed in the new season but it seems that things are still remain the same. This were the reasons why people were saying that they should signed some players so that they can do well in this season. Manchester City is playing well more than from the beginning. E. Haaland was assisted by B. Silva to scored the goal. This is their first leg and they would have done well to bypass this first stage.

And the Match is about to end and yet they are not doing well in the second half.

What? Chelsea should recruit some more players? In fact, Chelsea has bought or has many players in its squad, but you still don't seem satisfied. Because at this moment Chelsea's problem is about  having a lot of players but not succeeding in having good performance,and Chelsea also always fires coaches and this also makes it difficult for Chelsea to develop well. Because every time Chelsea has a new coach, then ofcourse they will start building the team from scratch again.

So yes, in this case the problem is that Boehly is not confident in the coach he has, so Chelsea always fire their coaches. With problems like that,Chelsea should be more patient with a process that is not fast,  because if they fire their coach again later, then Chelsea will remain the same and will never  succeed in recovering.

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August 18, 2024, 05:39:20 PM
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Liverpool has had a great start to the Premier League season, and they managed a 2-0 win over the opposition in today's match. Liverpool had a fantastic start today against Ipswich, and they gave the crowd a lot of fun at the start of the season.
I never expected Liverpool to start the season with such a good performance. Since there is a change in their coach, I was expecting their performance to drop a little bit at the beginning of the season. If they are going to be back in form, then it’s going to take some time, but from the way they played today and the matches they played during the pre season, it’s just obvious that having a change in coach doesn’t have any impact on them, which is a good one for them. Let’s see how their performance will go in the coming matches.

I haven't been able to conclude that they played well, even though in this match they played well. Because we also need to see who is their opponent. Their opponents in this match are promotional clubs, they actually haven't. Tested while in the English League, precisely this season they must prove that they really deserve to be in the English League.

I haven't seen them meet with a stronger club or at least their strength is not different enough and has often faced each other. Not intended to say what they achieved in this match is not good, it remains good but the point is my quality in the inj season with a new coach. Keep in mind also the level of consistency they cannot be Luhat from only one match, but Kuta must see more matches.

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August 18, 2024, 05:40:59 PM
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(FT) Chelsea 0 vs 2 Man city

The final result of Man City is still with the same story that its quality is still promising. Talking about Chelsea, it's a little bit not bad but certainly not a good performance either. Because of the many players played by Enzo Maresca, only Cole Palmer is able to provide sharp thrusts into Man City defense line. But what can you do, Palmer is not enough if he doesn't have a suitable partner. Honestly, for several changes that Chelsea made, especially new players, it had no impact at all. Enzo performed below standard, he lost the trust of his fellow teammates on the field. It can be said that Chelsea is too full of flop players, is this the right answer behind Chelsea reckless purchases? It's not easy for Enzo Maresca to find the right format. Chelsea is not strong enough to beat Manchester City.

Not only are the fans disappointed but Todd Boehly immediately left the stadium after spending a lot of money and actually saw their team playing very badly at the match.  Cheesy

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Kick off day with an interesting Chelsea Manchester City today.
How many bus Chelsea used to bring players for the game?

Joke asides, should be an easy win for Guardiola once again and they will reach Arsenal on the top.

This year it should be a race between them, I can't see anyone else able to keep their pace.
The match between Chelsea vs Manchester City has entered the 90+1th minute now, both teams are currently playing quite impressively and are endangering each other opponents goal, but it is clear that Manchester City is very dominant and continues to aim for additional goals to ensure their victory today, currently the score it's still 2-0 for Manchester City win and I think this score will probably last until the end of the match considering that Chelsea seems to be having a very difficult time scoring goals against Manchester City, Chelsea actually have a lot of chances in today match but instead they attacker looked very messy when in front of Manchester City goal.

Chelsea has  many brought their main squad today, and they even brought a lot of strikers today to face Manchester City, but their weakness lies in their very poor defense and the two goals that were scored did not show any hard work from the Chelsea defenders for prevent that the goal happen.

Not only are the fans disappointed but Todd Boehly immediately left the stadium after spending a lot of money and actually saw their team playing very badly at the match.  Cheesy

Toed Boehly remains a loser in his choice of players brought to the stamford bridge, Jackson remains the most useless signing Chelsea ever did and a very fuckedup Stricker for that matter, he was literally underperforming and confused until he was removed. I am not surprised at the weakness of the Chelsea defense, I personally see no experience defender there to hold the city force with Cucurella running around like an untamed dog. Playing Enzo Fernandez forward instead of his defensive midfield position contributed to the problem and I wonder what he was trying to achieve.

The day Chelsea sells off that he goat Jackson and gets a better striker, then they had solved one of their most prominent problems. Chelsea's need for a holding striker like Osimhen can never be overemphasized especially with Jackson's increased unproductivity upfront, the forwards did a very good job creating and missing lots of chances.











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August 18, 2024, 05:50:41 PM
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(FT) Chelsea 0 vs 2 Man city

The final result of Man City is still with the same story that its quality is still promising. Talking about Chelsea, it's a little bit not bad but certainly not a good performance either. Because of the many players played by Enzo Maresca, only Cole Palmer is able to provide sharp thrusts into Chelsea defense line. But what can you do, Palmer is not enough if he doesn't have a suitable partner. Honestly, for several changes that Chelsea made, especially new players, it had no impact at all. Enzo performed below standard, he lost the trust of his fellow teammates on the field. It can be said that Chelsea is too full of flop players, is this the right answer behind Chelsea reckless purchases? It's not easy for Enzo Maresca to find the right format. Chelsea is not strong enough to beat Manchester City.
truth is that palmer underplayed today although he still tried his best but In comparison to Manchester City players, Chelsea players are not matured with there decision making ability in front of the goal post. Same mistake they've always made even throughout last season is the same thing they are still doing in this current season. They do everything perfectly from the midfield towards the attack and when it's time to do the finishing, the result is always horrible and it's always courtesy of Nicholas Jackson who has refused to grow till this point. At least, they already know what's their problem and once they get a strong and natural 9 that will play that Jackson's position and still work on how they manage threat that comes from aggressive attack, they can be ready to experience some better result.

As always, halland still proved how exceptional he his in front of the post. He definitely knows his role as an attacker and has never performed below what is expected of him. With what they've played so far and how matured the team is becoming by the day, it's just going to be more deficult to see a team that can stop them from topping the league as usual.

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Chelsea again? I thought there will be changed in the new season but it seems that things are still remain the same. This were the reasons why people were saying that they should signed some players so that they can do well in this season. Manchester City is playing well more than from the beginning. E. Haaland was assisted by B. Silva to scored the goal. This is their first leg and they would have done well to bypass this first stage.

And the Match is about to end and yet they are not doing well in the second half.
Chelsea showed some nice gameplay against Manchester city. They don't look bad at all. The midfield of Lavia and Caicedo looks good and balanced. I think if the manager does the right things, Chelsea might do well this season, considering.

I want to see Chelsea against normal nasty teams. That’s where the conclusion will be drawn. It might be an adrenaline that got them gingered like that. First game of the season against Pep’s team.

Also all these buying of kids and prospect won’t take them back to the top. The need to invest in experience and leadership.
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Chelsea again? I thought there will be changed in the new season but it seems that things are still remain the same. This were the reasons why people were saying that they should signed some players so that they can do well in this season. Manchester City is playing well more than from the beginning. E. Haaland was assisted by B. Silva to scored the goal. This is their first leg and they would have done well to bypass this first stage.


The fact that Chelsea is worsening compared to the last season. And we back to the old style of play when we finished in 12th. We lack confidence in counterattacks. So, we pass to the wings and cross it, hoping our striker can finish. It's just like how we played under Lampard and Potter.
And nothing differs.

And the match is about to end and yet they are not doing well in the second half.

We lost 0-2 against city, and the worst part is we looked so poor at a home game. Also, we continue to be run into the ground by the awful American owners. We're finished.

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Chelsea again? I thought there will be changed in the new season but it seems that things are still remain the same. This were the reasons why people were saying that they should signed some players so that they can do well in this season. Manchester City is playing well more than from the beginning. E. Haaland was assisted by B. Silva to scored the goal. This is their first leg and they would have done well to bypass this first stage.

And the Match is about to end and yet they are not doing well in the second half.
Chelsea didn't play bad basically, it's just that they failed to score because Manchester City's defense was quite good. In some ways, Chelsea's performance in this match was much better in my opinion. They were not sharp enough in maximizing goal opportunities, that is an unresolved problem. Several times Christopher Nkunku and Nicolas Jackson had goal opportunities, but in the end they failed to take advantage of them.

It's no wonder that every fan and owner are disappointed with the result of this match, but they should be aware that the team that beat them is the 4x defending champion in the Premier League so far. There is no shame, it's just that they have to realize their shortcomings and correct them in the next match.

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Pep Guardiola has said there’s no motivation to win this another EPL title. I think there is no atom of honesty in what he said. I have seen guys like Messi and Ronaldo etc with insatiable thirst for success. Even, Ancelotti isn't letting up for youngies to catch up; what exemplifies the very elite is their non satisfaction with whatever level of successes.

I do not believe in the words of Pep Guardiola who says he has no motivation to win the title at the end of the season. His words are contrary to the aim of the team and coach in general. Each team spent large amounts of money just to get achievements at the end of the season. The large amount of money is used to bring in players even to bring in coaches. So, when Manchester City management brought in it also targeted a trophy. Is it possible that Pep was recruited not for that?
For me, it was only a strategy or it was an arrogant message that he had won everything with Manchester City.
I think he is whining. Pep knows what they want to hear and he feeds them. The annoying thing is that everyone could predict their dominance with how much quality that they were bringing in but people like to rely on myths & denials instead of focusing on distinct realities.
Their win today against Chelsea was just  a glance of what we will expect this season. He’s done it 4 times in a row, what makes us think that Arsenal or Liverpool would have a chance this season. I think he just wants to shift the pressure from them in the beginning of the season like he’s always done to come alive around April.
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Bad start off for Chelsea, They are currently sitting on the 17th position in the league table which is just only one step down into starting off their season on the relegation zone, I wasn't bothered seeing them lose this game because I already know Manchester City was not going to lose this game, but I was hoping that Chelsea would have insisted in getting a draw out of this match, because in their last season games they held City on a draw both in their home and away matches.

 
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Poor performance by Chelsea...  Sad  But no surprise though. If there was Pochettino behind the wheel then I think the team would be able to compete harder. It would be quite possible to get a point too.

If you sack your manager while things were okay then you will have to wait for the team to adapt to the system of a new manager. Anyways, I hope this process wouldn't take too long.

Jackson could have scored a goal by the way. It is unbelievable he can't even position himself in such an easy situation. He shouldn't be the main striker for this team, I'm saying it again.

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August 18, 2024, 08:22:57 PM
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As  espected Mancehster City won again Chelsea.
Halland back on track storing a goal
First 3 points of the season for Guardiola but there are a lot more games this season, if they manage to go further in champions they can even reach 70 played games.
Good performance from Kevn De Bruyne

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August 18, 2024, 11:36:14 PM
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Bad start off for Chelsea, They are currently sitting on the 17th position in the league table which is just only one step down into starting off their season on the relegation zone, I wasn't bothered seeing them lose this game because I already know Manchester City was not going to lose this game, but I was hoping that Chelsea would have insisted in getting a draw out of this match, because in their last season games they held City on a draw both in their home and away matches.

Well I think if you want to have a realistic chance to steal some points in a game against Manchester City, then it is rather at the beginning of the season in a home game instead of in a game later down the road into the season. It is not so much about how many games there are left to be played, no need to be talking about that. I think the psychological factor kicks in much more as Chelsea knows what it means to have a bad start. Last season they were at least able to tie the game against Liverpool, but now losing this one and then heading off to a game away from home could literally be the worst case materializing within a single week.

Over the course of the last five years, Chelsea is by far the only club to reach a negative transfer fee balance of 1 billion euro (they are at -988 million). That is 200 million per season and they are said to not have finished their plans for this transfer window. Throwing 200 million out the window on average with those results is a catastrophe. They finished 4th, 3rd, 12th and 6th last season and without that winning streak at the end of last season, they would have been lost once again. The Conference League isn't going to save it for them even if they were to win it.

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August 18, 2024, 11:47:48 PM
Last edit: August 19, 2024, 01:53:09 AM by shinratensei_
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Bad start off for Chelsea, They are currently sitting on the 17th position in the league table which is just only one step down into starting off their season on the relegation zone, I wasn't bothered seeing them lose this game because I already know Manchester City was not going to lose this game, but I was hoping that Chelsea would have insisted in getting a draw out of this match, because in their last season games they held City on a draw both in their home and away matches.

That's impossible to expect Chelsea to draws with Manchester City like last season. This is because Chelsea's squad is worse than last season. Todd Boehly did something stupid. He replaced a good coach who had delivered results with a new one who doesn't know how to run the club. And this is his consequence to see his team might be better or bad.

This is another setback for Chelsea to get a loss on their derby against Manchester City. This is pretty clear that Chelsea most likely will finish out of the top 10. They're gonna meet Wolves in the upcoming week, and that's an away game. I'm 100% on Wolves to win the game.

And, we'll soon see the real test for Chelsea. We have many "should-win" games coming up. If Chelsea fails to win them, we're finished.

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August 19, 2024, 02:52:20 AM
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This must be a little relief for Arne Slot. I mean everyone was curious how good he would be able to start. Because people were critizing Liverpool transfer policy. More precisely, no transfer at all.  Tongue

But still we saw a good start by Liverpool. Ipswich are one of the new members of the PL this season. I was expecting them to be more ambitious but we didn't see anything particular. Maybe they get used to the league in time.
Jota and Salah scored the goals that finished Ipswich in 5 minutes and did not allow any surprises. Arne Slot made a happy start to the league by starting with a victory. Every point is important for the championship and the points lost here may upset Liverpool at the end of the year. Liverpool says hello to the league with a definite 2-0 victory.
A very good debut for Arne Slot because this is their away game, even though the promotion club has recruited many players to help them compete in the premier league but the squad they have still can't beat the tough Liverpool squad, this club did not make a transfer this summer but I'm sure Liverpool still has the same performance as last season because they also still have Mohammed Salah.
I know the reason Liverpool don't want to let go of Moh Salah because they can't let go of the striker who always makes his contribution to the club.
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August 19, 2024, 04:45:56 AM
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Pep Guardiola has said there’s no motivation to win this another EPL title. I think there is no atom of honesty in what he said. I have seen guys like Messi and Ronaldo etc with insatiable thirst for success. Even, Ancelotti isn't letting up for youngies to catch up; what exemplifies the very elite is their non satisfaction with whatever level of successes.
Anyone who's known Pep Guardiola and his antics over the years will agree to the fact that he's very good at playing mind games so I wasn't surprised to see him say that there's no motivation to win the English Premier League at the moment during his pre-match conference with the press. I think he just said that so Chelsea manager and player will expect less from them while they prepare to be at their best when they face Chelsea in less than one hour time. Just like the people you mentioned, Pep Guardiola is also one manager who's never satisfied of winning trophies and matches so I would never believe such statement that came from him.

Pep Guardiola gave a different result when they played with a serious game when they beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.
From the results of the first Premier League match, we can conclude that every word Pep Guardiola said before the match started was his strategy to trick the opponent even though the opposing team's coach already understood the psychological warfare that the former Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach was playing.

Haaland has again recorded a good record in the last three seasons in every first match he played. He scored again in the opening match. The first goal in the opening match occurred in the 2022/2023 season against West Ham United, the 2023/2024 season against Burnley and 2024/2025 against Chelsea.

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