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October 11, 2023, 09:00:43 PM
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But if it is a gambling addiction, it will only give them problem after problem, especially if they don't understand when they should stop gambling and just want to gamble. The big difference between successful gamblers and gamblers who are addicted to gambling is that there is no self-control when gambling. There are no clear boundaries regarding the use of money and time so gamblers who are addicted to gambling only spend their time gambling. Even though he still has other things he can do to reduce his time gambling.

And yes, someone who is addicted can lose many things in their life including their family. Meanwhile, successful gamblers can still enjoy their lives well and still have the money they earn from gambling. He can also do other interesting things that can benefit him more.
Successfully gamblers can also be seen with some level of relativity, personally I could say there are two types of this successful gamblers, one are those who happens to gat a big win once and quit gambling after wards, they could possibly be considered successful because they got a level of success and went on to build on it in a different venture.

Another class of successful gamblers could be seen as those have gotten some level of experience over the years and have got a strategy with which they gamble that usually turns out profitable for them most often than it turns against them, this people are successful and still in the act to consolidate on their success, now observing carefully you would see that the first set of successful gambler's were lucky and immediately discontinued

This is because they don't want to get to point nof addiction because they don't have a pattern with which they gamble they were only lucky at a shot , while the second do have a system with which they use to continually stay consistent and successful making it easy for them to keep their habit under control and not possibly get addicted.

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October 12, 2023, 09:59:49 AM
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Successfully gamblers can also be seen with some level of relativity, personally I could say there are two types of this successful gamblers, one are those who happens to gat a big win once and quit gambling after wards, they could possibly be considered successful because they got a level of success and went on to build on it in a different venture.

Another class of successful gamblers could be seen as those have gotten some level of experience over the years and have got a strategy with which they gamble that usually turns out profitable for them most often than it turns against them, this people are successful and still in the act to consolidate on their success, now observing carefully you would see that the first set of successful gambler's were lucky and immediately discontinued

This is because they don't want to get to point nof addiction because they don't have a pattern with which they gamble they were only lucky at a shot , while the second do have a system with which they use to continually stay consistent and successful making it easy for them to keep their habit under control and not possibly get addicted.
Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.

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October 13, 2023, 11:01:10 AM
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Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.

That would just be random then, basically a gambler A winning more times than a gambler B is just random.

But in the end, even if the gambler A wins more, the casino will win even more, so the gambler will end up losing some or all their money.

That's just how it works, it's math and probabilities in games designed by the casino, which is just maximizing their wins.

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October 13, 2023, 06:29:20 PM
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Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.
I have seen a few that hated gambling as well, it was like a job because in the end it IS their job to make money that way. These were people who played poker online and a few that played sports betting as well. One guy was master at volleyball live games, he knew how the game would go, and betting allows you to guess how many points a set would have, he looked at first or at worst second set and made a deduction and bet big on the third set and almost always won, ne retired and started working in some other job. Imagine it, there are so many people who lose money while gambling and they still kept on going, and this dude was making a killing, making probably 5x more money every month than his current salary and he quit.

Sometimes, when it becomes a job, everything could become boring. You can think of the most fun job you can think of, imagine the greatest job there is, but when that turns into a job, I bet that it becomes very boring in the end.

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October 13, 2023, 07:43:49 PM
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Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.
Assuming that successful gamblers are addicts, that means for a gambler to climbed to top headed position, he will be converted to an addicts, whereas I don't concord with this statement because there's basically numerous gamblers in the system that have reached peak levels without entangling to be addicted to gambling. Everything one keen on achieving is possible, all we need is just consistency and determination to make our dreams come through, if gambler can be able to spot out the significant odds that would appreciate with time, it means there's strong standing on earning good from the space.

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October 13, 2023, 11:55:35 PM
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Assuming that successful gamblers are addicts, that means for a gambler to climbed to top headed position, he will be converted to an addicts, whereas I don't concord with this statement because there's basically numerous gamblers in the system that have reached peak levels without entangling to be addicted to gambling. Everything one keen on achieving is possible, all we need is just consistency and determination to make our dreams come through, if gambler can be able to spot out the significant odds that would appreciate with time, it means there's strong standing on earning good from the space.

The gambler who get the benefit most of the time will get addicted to the gambling games.The gambling successful person with many winning from the gambling will get more curiosity towards the game.Some they use the winning money again to the gambling,So finally they become the gambling addicted by the continuous wins.But assuming the successful gambler to the addict was not the correct way of approach.So it’s better to assume the gambling addict alone as addicts is essential one.

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October 14, 2023, 12:30:47 AM
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Successfully gamblers can also be seen with some level of relativity, personally I could say there are two types of this successful gamblers, one are those who happens to gat a big win once and quit gambling after wards, they could possibly be considered successful because they got a level of success and went on to build on it in a different venture.

Another class of successful gamblers could be seen as those have gotten some level of experience over the years and have got a strategy with which they gamble that usually turns out profitable for them most often than it turns against them, this people are successful and still in the act to consolidate on their success, now observing carefully you would see that the first set of successful gambler's were lucky and immediately discontinued

This is because they don't want to get to point nof addiction because they don't have a pattern with which they gamble they were only lucky at a shot , while the second do have a system with which they use to continually stay consistent and successful making it easy for them to keep their habit under control and not possibly get addicted.
Successful gamblers can be as you say, but some say that successful gamblers win more often than other gamblers. They can regulate their gambling and not be as passionate as other gamblers. And they can get the win but don't chase the win like other people. They can stop thinking there is still another win when they have already won.

This group of successful gamblers who have been gambling for years can make more money than other gamblers. They can learn from their mistakes and estimate their chances if they continue gambling. They will not be greedy in expecting another win and can think about when they should stop, especially after getting their win. They can also enjoy their winnings more often than other gamblers because they can stop on time after winning.

They can prevent their gambling addiction and are not tempted by other promotions. They think they have to control their thoughts so they don't become addicted to gambling.
Successful gamblers are to those gamblers who do really be able to make money and i would say that they arent considered addicts knowing that once you do come into a state or moment on which you are already that knowing on how to handle your bankroll or finances with gambling or simply having those management then i would say that you had already passed up on that condition on which you have already that get addicted because addicted people would really be that doing those bad decisions in regarding their fund handling and mostly messed up with their lives.
This is what i do call addiction on which on the time that you had made yourself getting wrecked with gambling but wasnt really be that able to do the right thing.
On the time that you had already recovered on such addiction and ended up on making  yourself that good or professional on gambling then i dont really considered it out to be addicted anymore
but rather they are the ones who are people who had learned their lessons and caught up according into it.


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October 14, 2023, 04:43:33 AM
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That would just be random then, basically a gambler A winning more times than a gambler B is just random.

But in the end, even if the gambler A wins more, the casino will win even more, so the gambler will end up losing some or all their money.

That's just how it works, it's math and probabilities in games designed by the casino, which is just maximizing their wins.
The casino will win more money than gambler A or B because the casino owns the gambling business. Gamblers A and B may alternately win, but their winnings will not be much larger than what the casino gets. So gamblers A and B must know they can only enjoy gambling as entertainment and will not chase the win for the sake of winning.

I have seen a few that hated gambling as well, it was like a job because in the end it IS their job to make money that way. These were people who played poker online and a few that played sports betting as well. One guy was master at volleyball live games, he knew how the game would go, and betting allows you to guess how many points a set would have, he looked at first or at worst second set and made a deduction and bet big on the third set and almost always won, ne retired and started working in some other job. Imagine it, there are so many people who lose money while gambling and they still kept on going, and this dude was making a killing, making probably 5x more money every month than his current salary and he quit.

Sometimes, when it becomes a job, everything could become boring. You can think of the most fun job you can think of, imagine the greatest job there is, but when that turns into a job, I bet that it becomes very boring in the end.
It is not surprising that some people can make money from gambling, especially in sports betting, because they can analyze each match well so they manage to win a lot of money. Meanwhile, other people will not be able to follow it because it will depend on their ability to analyze each match. So it is clear that if a person really masters one or more sports, he may have a greater chance of winning than others. This can be additional capital for him besides using the money he can afford to collect money from each bet.

It will depend on each person overcoming boredom because I think many people will try hard to have money if it is about money. And it is gambling where there is prize money for the winners so many people still want to gamble and win some money for them.

Assuming that successful gamblers are addicts, that means for a gambler to climbed to top headed position, he will be converted to an addicts, whereas I don't concord with this statement because there's basically numerous gamblers in the system that have reached peak levels without entangling to be addicted to gambling. Everything one keen on achieving is possible, all we need is just consistency and determination to make our dreams come through, if gambler can be able to spot out the significant odds that would appreciate with time, it means there's strong standing on earning good from the space.
If gamblers reach the peak level and do not become addicted, they may already be successful gamblers who do not experience any problems in reaching the peak level. But that is different from most gamblers who try to reach the peak level but instead, they become addicted to gambling and it is their fault because they do not have self-control as a barrier to prevent gambling addiction. Everything will have consequences that we must be aware of to consider the risks and prevent the risks from becoming greater. We know that to become a successful gambler requires many things and experiences that they have accumulated over time and they can continue to learn to control themselves because in gambling, there will be many temptations to continue gambling.

Successful gamblers are to those gamblers who do really be able to make money and i would say that they arent considered addicts knowing that once you do come into a state or moment on which you are already that knowing on how to handle your bankroll or finances with gambling or simply having those management then i would say that you had already passed up on that condition on which you have already that get addicted because addicted people would really be that doing those bad decisions in regarding their fund handling and mostly messed up with their lives.
This is what i do call addiction on which on the time that you had made yourself getting wrecked with gambling but wasnt really be that able to do the right thing.
On the time that you had already recovered on such addiction and ended up on making  yourself that good or professional on gambling then i dont really considered it out to be addicted anymore
but rather they are the ones who are people who had learned their lessons and caught up according into it.
A successful gambler has more abilities than most gamblers in that they can prevent themselves from becoming addicted to gambling and manage their finances, which will be used for gambling. They also won't be interested in pursuing victory, especially if they see no chance for them to win. They would prefer to continue gambling on another day because it might bring them greater luck to win more money. Maybe they have gone through their bad days as a gambler and managed to overcome all their problems so that they can gamble without the burden of winning but can win more than other gamblers. What is more important is that they can prevent themselves from experiencing gambling addiction, which has become a serious problem for all gamblers because of the excellent self-control they have learned while gambling.

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October 14, 2023, 07:46:41 AM
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Assuming that successful gamblers are addicts, that means for a gambler to climbed to top headed position, he will be converted to an addicts, whereas I don't concord with this statement because there's basically numerous gamblers in the system that have reached peak levels without entangling to be addicted to gambling. Everything one keen on achieving is possible, all we need is just consistency and determination to make our dreams come through, if gambler can be able to spot out the significant odds that would appreciate with time, it means there's strong standing on earning good from the space.

The gambler who get the benefit most of the time will get addicted to the gambling games.The gambling successful person with many winning from the gambling will get more curiosity towards the game.Some they use the winning money again to the gambling,So finally they become the gambling addicted by the continuous wins.But assuming the successful gambler to the addict was not the correct way of approach.So it’s better to assume the gambling addict alone as addicts is essential one.
Not only a gambler become addicted by winning but a gambler can also become addicted to gambling due to loss. I have seen some people who want to quit gambling but they can't because they have a lot of losses that they want to recover. If he withdraws from gambling at this point, it is not easy to quickly recover his lost money through other jobs. But he is losing more money than he is trying to recover his lost money. Gambling can become addictive even if one wins and has the potential to become addicted even if one loses. A successful gambler is not addicted. Very few people in gambling become successful.
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October 14, 2023, 10:20:41 AM
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Not only a gambler become addicted by winning but a gambler can also become addicted to gambling due to loss.
Either win or lose, a gambler can be addicted based on his behavior and how he likes to gamble. Most likely a gambler becomes more addicted when he's losing more because of the mindset that he wants to take back those losses and that's making him want to gamble more.

I have seen some people who want to quit gambling but they can't because they have a lot of losses that they want to recover.
Yeah, that's the matter for those gamblers that have huge losses. They just can't back off and stop because all is on their mind is to recover those losses. It's hard to get on track when that's what they've been thinking of. It's like not just an achievement but it's so hard to accept losses that include money on it.

If he withdraws from gambling at this point, it is not easy to quickly recover his lost money through other jobs.
What's harder is that a gambler has a bigger problem due to the fact that he even lost his salary. That's gonna take a long time or maybe a week or two for him to recover that losses through his salary. And even he gets a new salary, that won't change the fact that he is still on losses.

But he is losing more money than he is trying to recover his lost money. Gambling can become addictive even if one wins and has the potential to become addicted even if one loses. A successful gambler is not addicted. Very few people in gambling become successful.
That's why win or loss, someone can be addicted to gambling based on how he sees the results. Whether both of them are acceptable or not, there's the ego that we feel that pushes us to go back and chase losses.

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October 14, 2023, 09:55:56 PM
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Not only a gambler become addicted by winning but a gambler can also become addicted to gambling due to loss. I have seen some people who want to quit gambling but they can't because they have a lot of losses that they want to recover. If he withdraws from gambling at this point, it is not easy to quickly recover his lost money through other jobs. But he is losing more money than he is trying to recover his lost money. Gambling can become addictive even if one wins and has the potential to become addicted even if one loses. A successful gambler is not addicted. Very few people in gambling become successful.

Yes, and actually the number of successful people in gambling is so small that it might as well be considered zero.

It's weird that people don't consider these things and put a lot of money in the table, knowing that the casino has an edge.

I guess it's the stories of the few winners that keep the rest motivated.

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October 15, 2023, 11:26:41 PM
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I think successful gamblers have indeed faced addiction at some point. The key difference is that they managed to overcome it and now have control over their gambling habits.
gamblers faced addiction during at primary stage of their gambling. Afterward, whom who manage to overcome it , only become turn into a successful gambler. On such stage, there's no place for deep addiction for a game cause that could be force them to do uncertain stake which is out of a successful gambler's rules. But maybe they feel addiction at some point as you said but that is for short time and they also manage it by their next wise step after lose any game.

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I think successful gamblers have indeed faced addiction at some point. The key difference is that they managed to overcome it and now have control over their gambling habits.
gamblers faced addiction during at primary stage of their gambling. Afterward, whom who manage to overcome it , only become turn into a successful gambler. On such stage, there's no place for deep addiction for a game cause that could be force them to do uncertain stake which is out of a successful gambler's rules. But maybe they feel addiction at some point as you said but that is for short time and they also manage it by their next wise step after lose any game.

most probably, these gamblers have one way or another experienced addiction at one point in their lives. but people have their own approach in addressing their addiction. so some got out successfully, and learned to manage their gambling activities to their own advantage.
whereas, a lot are still struggling to get out from their holes owed to their financial troubles. if you won't address your gambling situation, you will absolutely give yourself a desperate life that you would want to be in at all cost.

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October 15, 2023, 11:42:45 PM
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most probably, these gamblers have one way or another experienced addiction at one point in their lives. but people have their own approach in addressing their addiction. so some got out successfully, and learned to manage their gambling activities to their own advantage.
whereas, a lot are still struggling to get out from their holes owed to their financial troubles. if you won't address your gambling situation, you will absolutely give yourself a desperate life.

The gambler who play for the longer period already get addicted to the gambling,So the gambler who had their continuous game,the other players seems this like the gambler as the gambling addicted person.But some gamble will play for the longer period to understand the game at the beginning stage.But the gambling addicted person had some advantage of predict the game by the use of their gambling addiction.Some successful gambler should try to teach the less experienced gambler and become the parent of the gambler winning by sharing your experience to the gambler win to the new game.

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October 16, 2023, 12:11:25 PM
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most probably, these gamblers have one way or another experienced addiction at one point in their lives. but people have their own approach in addressing their addiction. so some got out successfully, and learned to manage their gambling activities to their own advantage.
whereas, a lot are still struggling to get out from their holes owed to their financial troubles. if you won't address your gambling situation, you will absolutely give yourself a desperate life.

The gambler who play for the longer period already get addicted to the gambling,So the gambler who had their continuous game,the other players seems this like the gambler as the gambling addicted person.But some gamble will play for the longer period to understand the game at the beginning stage.But the gambling addicted person had some advantage of predict the game by the use of their gambling addiction.Some successful gambler should try to teach the less experienced gambler and become the parent of the gambler winning by sharing your experience to the gambler win to the new game.
The fact that,  no matter what the level of your self discipline,  as long as you gamble excessively,  you are already an addict,  the only difference between the so called successful and the cure addicts who become overly indebted die to they non controlled gambling and spending that make them ruin in the first place and the only differences between both is that the successful gambler have money to sponsor his addictions.

Unlike normal addicts who may have become broke due to the fact that they borrowed and have spent family savings on gambling and may be in the financial worst positions,  so this is what differentiates the two characters from each other.
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October 16, 2023, 01:23:43 PM
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I think successful gamblers have indeed faced addiction at some point. The key difference is that they managed to overcome it and now have control over their gambling habits.
gamblers faced addiction during at primary stage of their gambling. Afterward, whom who manage to overcome it , only become turn into a successful gambler. On such stage, there's no place for deep addiction for a game cause that could be force them to do uncertain stake which is out of a successful gambler's rules. But maybe they feel addiction at some point as you said but that is for short time and they also manage it by their next wise step after lose any game.
The difference is clear between successful gamblers and addicted gamblers. As successful gamblers, they will not be easily tempted by whatever is offered because they have better self-control than other gamblers. Meanwhile, gamblers who are addicted to gambling only want to gamble and win, so they keep trying hard to win. Successful gamblers may have experienced gambling addiction before. But they are willing to admit it and want to change for the better so they actively practice self-control more than other gamblers. Finally, they can overcome their gambling addiction and become successful gamblers.

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October 16, 2023, 02:11:24 PM
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Just as the tittle already ask, I want to know if people who are successful in gambling are also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be a good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No law says one must get to a level of becoming a gambling addict to become a successful gambler, But rather the level of your success is determined by the amount of effort, time, and dedication you put in. Success is all about doing the right thing and applying the right strategy, Boom you are there, and no magic about that, however, people have different stories to tell of their success in gambling, and some people can still be addicted at some point in their road to achieving success or becoming a successful gambler.

My story, I was addicted at some point but took caution and got myself out quickly, and those experiences contributed and got me to the level of positive results I have gotten so far.
 

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October 16, 2023, 03:14:26 PM
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I think that the word addict implies when a job or hubby controls a  person, when the person persists in doing the same thing even when they're having loses and they don't know how to stop. It is different from being a professional who is in control and knows when to take a break or quit. So inasmuch as the gambler is a professional who knows when to take a break, stop and know when is the right time to come back and continue, tha gambler can not be classified as an addict. If a gambler who is successful in winnings and is also in charge of his emotions, that gambler is a  professional, not an addict.

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October 16, 2023, 03:32:43 PM
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I guess there are people who are referred to as good and bad addict but which ever be the case no kind of addiction could be considered a good one, too much of anything can be consider bad.

If someone gambler and have made things out of gambling, those people can just call it a stop I know greed won’t allow them but ending it right there and reducing their gambling habit will be a good thing, because they might end up losing everything that they have mad and have ever build to gambling again if they don’t take time with it.
It’s good that they have mad good win from gambling and that is also an achievement as it’s not just the casinos which are meant to be profitable every time so gambling and making it out of it is good but should be stopped right away.

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Just as the tittle already ask, I want to know if people who are successful in gambling are also seen as addicts because I believe for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be a good amount of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful gambler must have invested both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable winning and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

No law says one must get to a level of becoming a gambling addict to become a successful gambler, But rather the level of your success is determined by the amount of effort, time, and dedication you put in. Success is all about doing the right thing and applying the right strategy, Boom you are there, and no magic about that, however, people have different stories to tell of their success in gambling, and some people can still be addicted at some point in their road to achieving success or becoming a successful gambler.

My story, I was addicted at some point but took caution and got myself out quickly, and those experiences contributed and got me to the level of positive results I have gotten so far.
 
Besides I do not really think there is any way for an addicted gambler to become successful, since their addiction severely limits their ability to think and use their common sense.

If for example a gambler that was addicted to poker lost a big pot, instead of just waiting for good cards to come to them they will simply make big bets regardless of the strength of the cards they had, they will be left at a disadvantageous position and lose once again, and if you repeat this process a few times then the losses a poker player can suffer in a matter of minutes are enormous, showing it is almost impossible for an addicted gambler to actually become successful in a game of skill.

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