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December 23, 2023, 11:36:53 AM
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But successful gamblers also need skills, and they even learn new skills to be able to win. Even though learning new skills takes time, they are willing to spend the time to improve the skills needed to gamble to win. And we have to know that when he learns new skills, he can still control himself in gambling because he knows that it is important for him to maintain.

We also don't know for sure whether successful gamblers are among those who are addicted to gambling. But they don't seem to be addicted to gambling because they have better self-control than most gamblers, and they also know what to do if something doesn't go as they expected. Those who are successful in gambling can remain in control while gambling without having the desire to chase after winnings if they win because they know it will only make them forget themselves.
Successful gamblers still need skills to be able to achieve good luck. In fact both of these are important roles for truly successful gamblers, and yes, successful gamblers who play based on skills will continue to hone their abilities to deepen their skills so that their predictions or strategies can be right, it is not easy for someone to deepen them. If you are too lazy to hone your skills, successful gamblers will need a long time to get the results they are getting now.

Successful gamblers can be called addicts and it can also be said not, they use gambling to make a profit, which means if they continue to gamble and always win, they can be called addicted because gambling is part of their life. But it can be called no because they can still control it gambling which means an addiction that can be controlled by oneself Grin
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December 23, 2023, 02:58:07 PM
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But successful gamblers also need skills, and they even learn new skills to be able to win. Even though learning new skills takes time, they are willing to spend the time to improve the skills needed to gamble to win. And we have to know that when he learns new skills, he can still control himself in gambling because he knows that it is important for him to maintain.

We also don't know for sure whether successful gamblers are among those who are addicted to gambling. But they don't seem to be addicted to gambling because they have better self-control than most gamblers, and they also know what to do if something doesn't go as they expected. Those who are successful in gambling can remain in control while gambling without having the desire to chase after winnings if they win because they know it will only make them forget themselves.
Successful gamblers still need skills to be able to achieve good luck. In fact both of these are important roles for truly successful gamblers, and yes, successful gamblers who play based on skills will continue to hone their abilities to deepen their skills so that their predictions or strategies can be right, it is not easy for someone to deepen them. If you are too lazy to hone your skills, successful gamblers will need a long time to get the results they are getting now.

Successful gamblers can be called addicts and it can also be said not, they use gambling to make a profit, which means if they continue to gamble and always win, they can be called addicted because gambling is part of their life. But it can be called no because they can still control it gambling which means an addiction that can be controlled by oneself Grin
Skill and luck are essential to successful gambling. I believe gambling skill development is like any other high-level pursuit, requiring devotion and work. The goal of skill improvement is personal growth and mastery, not merely winning.

The concept of addiction is complicated. Some successful gamblers incorporate gambling into their life, but is this addiction? Not always, I argue. Control is crucial. Gambling sensibly, without sacrificing other elements of life, is not an addiction.

To promote healthy gambling, promote responsibility. Gambling should be fun, not addictive. Gambling should be fun, not harmful, thus encourage discipline and self-awareness.

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December 23, 2023, 03:12:24 PM
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This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.
Indeed, it is a fine line, and it is often difficult to distinguish it. But with our experience, we can know and differentiate it. Yes, I agree with you that there are professional players who end up losing a lot and despair because they cannot control themselves well while they are gambling. They forget that gambling has many temptations, so they seem to underestimate gambling and say they are used to dealing with it. But from underestimating them, they will start to encounter problem after problem, which, in the end, they cannot handle and makes them start to lose control of themselves in gambling. He would feel like he had hit rock bottom again and might not be able to get up again if he didn't quickly realize that he had made a mistake. By realizing his mistakes and the desire to correct his mistakes, he can get back up and start correcting the mistakes he has made.

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Successful gamblers still need skills to be able to achieve good luck. In fact both of these are important roles for truly successful gamblers, and yes, successful gamblers who play based on skills will continue to hone their abilities to deepen their skills so that their predictions or strategies can be right, it is not easy for someone to deepen them. If you are too lazy to hone your skills, successful gamblers will need a long time to get the results they are getting now.

Successful gamblers can be called addicts and it can also be said not, they use gambling to make a profit, which means if they continue to gamble and always win, they can be called addicted because gambling is part of their life. But it can be called no because they can still control it gambling which means an addiction that can be controlled by oneself Grin
Successful gamblers must have skills that can help analyze the gambling they do and to be able to win. They are very different from most gamblers. They also have other things we need to know because they never tell the public. Successful gamblers can play using skills that are above average so that they have a better chance of winning than other gamblers. They will not be lazy to continue practicing their skills because, according to them, that can help them to remain professional gamblers, and they have that when they already have a lot of skills.

Successful gamblers can force themselves not to chase wins because they know it will not bring them more wins. They know themselves better than anyone, so they can defend well and win. We really don't know whether successful gamblers are addicts or they do not have an addiction because they don't show it to the public. But if we can get close to them, we can learn things that help them become successful gamblers so that we can also improve our skills.

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December 24, 2023, 01:54:33 PM
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On the time that you had been able to recover up yourself into that temporal addiction specially if its your first time on playing gambling then you would really be able to control yourself again into those next sessions on which i could say that it is really that indeed a good thing but its better to make yourself having in moderation when it comes to playing again because it doesnt mean that you wouldnt be able to get addicted again or having that odds or chance on getting addicted on the time that you do make those active sessions but well it would really be that still depending on you since its our money that we do gamble and not on others. As long you do make yourself that responsible and mindful about your spending then i would say that it is really just that fine but of course
having control would really be always that relevant.

Yeah, but there's a tricky thing that is in the back of the mind of many gamblers... what if they win the next one?

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December 25, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
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This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.
Indeed, it is a fine line, and it is often difficult to distinguish it. But with our experience, we can know and differentiate it. Yes, I agree with you that there are professional players who end up losing a lot and despair because they cannot control themselves well while they are gambling. They forget that gambling has many temptations, so they seem to underestimate gambling and say they are used to dealing with it. But from underestimating them, they will start to encounter problem after problem, which, in the end, they cannot handle and makes them start to lose control of themselves in gambling. He would feel like he had hit rock bottom again and might not be able to get up again if he didn't quickly realize that he had made a mistake. By realizing his mistakes and the desire to correct his mistakes, he can get back up and start correcting the mistakes he has made.
I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.

 
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December 26, 2023, 02:04:50 AM
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Well I have always said something, that each person does what they want and that is what I have seen, practically there are people who do not bet anything and I think that the most they like is being in the casino to see how other people play and how they do to have gains, losses, etc., it is always like that, I could say that this is something very normal, because where I live there are people who are like that, just like when you go down the street on December 25th you sometimes see people drunks out there, it is something as common as that, it could be in Las Vegas, or in other casinos in other countries, well, you don't see that type of thing because it is usually debatable as something not going well, but the customs are so common. Once again, we are generally people of habit, it is difficult for those who leave their comfort zone and those who do that kind of thing in a casino and don't tell them anything, because they simply get used to it. there because they believe that they are not harming Andie and since they are allowed to do so, they are fine.

Now, as people who are thinking and who have many things to do, we have to look at it, for example, I am not capable of doing something like that, of going to a casino and staying all day, it is not that I lose my time, but I consider that I can do more productive things, I also think that the area where I live is very quiet, so the people are so calm that they are not in such a constant hustle and bustle as they are in the big cosmopolitan cities, where you cannot relax because the city itself eats you if you don't care, then all this has to do with culture, with the way people do and react and how they can behave to do things better, in a casino there are many stories that are told. Dan, but I consider that an addicted person is one who goes to the casinos and becomes decapitated and starts a world of problems, but a successful person for me is one who goes to the casino, stays as long as they want and leaves with money, on a positive balance. .

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December 26, 2023, 02:46:43 AM
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It all depends on what is considered addiction and what are the criteria for addiction. If the criterion is the ability to consciously refuse to play a game in which you have little advantage, then professional gamblers are likely to have little addiction. If by addiction we mean a constant or periodic irresistible craving for gaming, then almost all people who play on a regular basis are addicted. If we talk about a small addiction that does not harm you, but which creates motivation to move on, then I think that such an addiction is rather positive. This is not the most common view, but it is what follows the facts and logic. A little controlled addiction won't hurt us.

 
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On the time that you had been able to recover up yourself into that temporal addiction specially if its your first time on playing gambling then you would really be able to control yourself again into those next sessions on which i could say that it is really that indeed a good thing but its better to make yourself having in moderation when it comes to playing again because it doesnt mean that you wouldnt be able to get addicted again or having that odds or chance on getting addicted on the time that you do make those active sessions but well it would really be that still depending on you since its our money that we do gamble and not on others. As long you do make yourself that responsible and mindful about your spending then i would say that it is really just that fine but of course
having control would really be always that relevant.

Yeah, but there's a tricky thing that is in the back of the mind of many gamblers... what if they win the next one?

That is basically how many fortunes have been lost.

And that is how casinos build their fortunes.

That kind of thinking behind a gambler's mind gives a big edge to the house, as even if you have already recovered from addiction the moment you enter the house again, this kind of thinking will always appear behind your mind, giving the hint that, what if the next attempt will be the lucky pick for you, if control got lose surely it will bring back that addiction as you will be dominated by emotions to please that desire, hoping that luck will back you up and let you win the game.

You have to be more careful if you just went from addiction, as like what the post above, mentioned, there's always a chance that you may fail to control, and you will unleash that desire inside and offer yourself again to another addiction.

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Skill and luck are essential to successful gambling. I believe gambling skill development is like any other high-level pursuit, requiring devotion and work. The goal of skill improvement is personal growth and mastery, not merely winning.

The concept of addiction is complicated. Some successful gamblers incorporate gambling into their life, but is this addiction? Not always, I argue. Control is crucial. Gambling sensibly, without sacrificing other elements of life, is not an addiction.

To promote healthy gambling, promote responsibility. Gambling should be fun, not addictive. Gambling should be fun, not harmful, thus encourage discipline and self-awareness.
Of course, these two factors are important keys for someone who wants to be successful in the field of gambling, because it is impossible for someone to be successful if they do not have skills in the field of gambling, and vice versa it is impossible for someone who is successful without having luck in it, so the concept of skill is what brings luck and makes professional gamblers able to become successful people thanks to their skills, whereas people who only rely on luck without using their skills will not become successful gamblers.

Successful gamblers and addicts are very clearly different, successful gamblers are more able to control themselves and always use gambling to generate luck but with the skills they have, while addicts just gamble chasing losses or chasing wins without knowing the concept of skill, they only rely on luck and this is what will cause more addicts to waste money and time.
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I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.
As a professional, he should not have been triggered by his emotions due to his loss. As a professional gambler, he knows what to do when he has lost more than 4 times and must be able to stop himself from gambling. Unfortunately, he didn't think about it and instead continued gambling, and in the end, he lost and lost everything. In gambling, when someone has experienced more losses, his emotions will be triggered and can make him lose his mind. That will make him want to recover his losses because, in his mind, he will think that a novice gambler can't beat him, especially since he already has more experience than a novice gambler.

And finally, it really happened when he experienced loss after loss, which caused him to lose everything and even have to borrow money. It will also not give him a chance to win the game because when a person is in high emotions, he will not be able to think clearly, and his gambling game will become random.

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Well I have always said something, that each person does what they want and that is what I have seen, practically there are people who do not bet anything and I think that the most they like is being in the casino to see how other people play and how they do to have gains, losses, etc., it is always like that, I could say that this is something very normal, because where I live there are people who are like that, just like when you go down the street on December 25th you sometimes see people drunks out there, it is something as common as that, it could be in Las Vegas, or in other casinos in other countries, well, you don't see that type of thing because it is usually debatable as something not going well, but the customs are so common. Once again, we are generally people of habit, it is difficult for those who leave their comfort zone and those who do that kind of thing in a casino and don't tell them anything, because they simply get used to it. there because they believe that they are not harming Andie and since they are allowed to do so, they are fine.

Now, as people who are thinking and who have many things to do, we have to look at it, for example, I am not capable of doing something like that, of going to a casino and staying all day, it is not that I lose my time, but I consider that I can do more productive things, I also think that the area where I live is very quiet, so the people are so calm that they are not in such a constant hustle and bustle as they are in the big cosmopolitan cities, where you cannot relax because the city itself eats you if you don't care, then all this has to do with culture, with the way people do and react and how they can behave to do things better, in a casino there are many stories that are told. Dan, but I consider that an addicted person is one who goes to the casinos and becomes decapitated and starts a world of problems, but a successful person for me is one who goes to the casino, stays as long as they want and leaves with money, on a positive balance. .

In my opinion, this has become commonplace among gamblers Yes,  maybe they are trapped in their zone so it is difficult for them to get out of the zone that makes them comfortable with gambling, even though gambling itself causes losses to them, but they still stick with what is clearly detrimental. with their bad habits, they experience quite a few losses.

Yes, you are right, those who are successful at casinos are the ones who stay and leave with some money, that's probably because they are smart in doing what they are supposed to do.

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December 26, 2023, 01:53:58 PM
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It all depends on what is considered addiction and what are the criteria for addiction. If the criterion is the ability to consciously refuse to play a game in which you have little advantage, then professional gamblers are likely to have little addiction. If by addiction we mean a constant or periodic irresistible craving for gaming, then almost all people who play on a regular basis are addicted. If we talk about a small addiction that does not harm you, but which creates motivation to move on, then I think that such an addiction is rather positive. This is not the most common view, but it is what follows the facts and logic. A little controlled addiction won't hurt us.
I agree with you that it depends on how one's perspective is in assessing addiction, because it can have different premises for each point of view.
However, for me, it is quite clear that someone who cannot escape gambling is someone who experiences gambling, even if he plays regularly, or comes every week. I think he has an addiction. Although the classification of someone's gambling is different depending on how much time, money and thought they put into thinking about gambling.

IMO, there is no positive addiction in my opinion, especially in gambling even have a little addict.

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You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.

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I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.
As a professional, he should not have been triggered by his emotions due to his loss. As a professional gambler, he knows what to do when he has lost more than 4 times and must be able to stop himself from gambling. Unfortunately, he didn't think about it and instead continued gambling, and in the end, he lost and lost everything. In gambling, when someone has experienced more losses, his emotions will be triggered and can make him lose his mind. That will make him want to recover his losses because, in his mind, he will think that a novice gambler can't beat him, especially since he already has more experience than a novice gambler.

And finally, it really happened when he experienced loss after loss, which caused him to lose everything and even have to borrow money. It will also not give him a chance to win the game because when a person is in high emotions, he will not be able to think clearly, and his gambling game will become random.
He had a feeling that just a little more and he would win all his money from the gambling and aggressive newcomer. He thought he would do it easily. You cannot underestimate your opponent, no matter how carelessly he plays, any opponent must be respected, even this one.

Yes, to put it simply, he succumbed to emotions. I know that this infuriates professionals the most when those from whom they are accustomed to earn money show them the opposite. This undermines their self-esteem about themselves, about their game. They think it also had a big impact that the whole table was watching and laughing. Probably some deep feelings and emotions from childhood that did not manifest themselves in poker were at work, which allowed him to win until that moment. The rest of the professionals also need to think about this, suddenly the moment will come when they will have something similar.

 
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You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.
Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.


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I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.
As a professional, he should not have been triggered by his emotions due to his loss. As a professional gambler, he knows what to do when he has lost more than 4 times and must be able to stop himself from gambling. Unfortunately, he didn't think about it and instead continued gambling, and in the end, he lost and lost everything. In gambling, when someone has experienced more losses, his emotions will be triggered and can make him lose his mind. That will make him want to recover his losses because, in his mind, he will think that a novice gambler can't beat him, especially since he already has more experience than a novice gambler.

And finally, it really happened when he experienced loss after loss, which caused him to lose everything and even have to borrow money. It will also not give him a chance to win the game because when a person is in high emotions, he will not be able to think clearly, and his gambling game will become random.

He only got moved by the fact that he can't lose to a novice, as you said. That's the fall of most men today, believing that some people can't be better than them in their field. Gambling is not a game where we'd be moved by the reactions of people around us, like in the story, the man was bothered by the laughter of those around him. He wasn't prepared to face the shame and, hence preferred to lose more money to cover for it, thereby chasing loss. The story is nice and also helps to prove that some professional gamblers can still get addicted to gambling. Because at some point, they won't be able to control their emotions and make a series of mistakes, without knowing or being aware of it. We all have different motives and our actions change each day of the gambling session. The game can change, and the results may seem promising, so the gambler may play reluctantly, trusting that he will win, just in a few predictions.

A professional can be challenged with such a situation, where he thinks it's his day and nothing can stop him from seizing the opportunity. Not realizing that no gambler has a day. Outcomes or results change, hence nobody is entitled to winning, alone. A newbie can win more than a pro, someday. Those who gamble because others did, will deceived into thinking that if a newbie wins, while won't there win also. In the process, they'll end up losing all their bank roll and rush to take loans to gamble, like in the case of the man in the movie, illustrated above. Once it gets to taking a loan the gambler is close to becoming addicted, as he can't wager games with his full mind anymore. He will play to gain back enough money to fund or pay back his debts. Therefore, putting himself in a more severe problem, all because of a mistake he made out of ego or trying to prove that he's a competent gambler. Anybody can get addicted, not minding his level of gambling knowledge, pro or new.

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December 26, 2023, 10:04:02 PM
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You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.
Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.



That's a good decision to make, instead of pushing for more, using the money that he earns from gambling to something that can grow like investment
or any type of business will allow him to enjoy more.

There are people who got lucky and manage to takeaway something from the house, some continue to play and use that experience as edge
while some really calculated their budget and make sure that money and time is well taking cared.

Those who set their limitation and manage to execute the strategy might be addicted to it in a good way.
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December 26, 2023, 11:50:38 PM
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You know before getting to the stage where you're called a successful gambler. That means you have pass through alot of stages before getting there. And one of those stages are uncontrollable losses, addiction etc. So to be a successful gamble doesn't mean you must be addicted because most successful gamblers have already know the ways to handle such things. Because without having good control of you gambling habits you can't become a successful gambler at first . Is through your luck and your principles in gambling.
Are you saying that before you can be a successful gambler you must have gone through some kind of regular losses that one cannot control and as well addiction? Buddy it's all wrong. Some gamblers are just lucky that during their first month or week of gambling they got a massive cash out. Sincerely speaking, in my country a guy took a bet from a friend, and this was his first time. He asked for games, and they gave him. He used a good amount and staked it and was lucky to win very big. Ever since that day he stopped gambling and was very successful.


Whether you do like it or not, you would really be passing up into that condition or situation on which there would really comes a time that you would really be that semi-addicted with gambling even if we do say that you are really having that good self control on which there would really be a time that you would really be that eager on trying to catch up those wins even if it means that you would be needing to bet or deposit more money. It is really just that depending on how you do able to control yourself into this kind of situation. It is really normal though since we are just humans and if on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself then this is where issues and problems would really be starting to show up. So its better that you shouldnt really be waiting for this time to come.

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December 27, 2023, 12:18:07 PM
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Whether you do like it or not, you would really be passing up into that condition or situation on which there would really comes a time that you would really be that semi-addicted with gambling even if we do say that you are really having that good self control on which there would really be a time that you would really be that eager on trying to catch up those wins even if it means that you would be needing to bet or deposit more money. It is really just that depending on how you do able to control yourself into this kind of situation. It is really normal though since we are just humans and if on the time that you cant really be able to control yourself then this is where issues and problems would really be starting to show up. So its better that you shouldnt really be waiting for this time to come.
almost all gamblers can become addicted, it's just that they already have every way to avoid their addiction and the biggest opportunity for a gambler to become addicted is those who always come every day to gamble even though they say this is just for fun but believe me in the long term they can become addicted like what you said. however, for gamblers who come only in their free time or on holidays, the potential for addiction is certainly smaller because they won't constantly think about gambling, but for gamblers who gamble every day, they will always be curious about everything that triggers their minds to keep trying to bet.

and all this is about self control as you said but if self control without strong commitment will definitely be very difficult but for professional gamblers who are not addicted they always have a big commitment and can always get small profits from skill based games and avoid games luck based.

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December 27, 2023, 04:15:14 PM
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He had a feeling that just a little more and he would win all his money from the gambling and aggressive newcomer. He thought he would do it easily. You cannot underestimate your opponent, no matter how carelessly he plays, any opponent must be respected, even this one.

Yes, to put it simply, he succumbed to emotions. I know that this infuriates professionals the most when those from whom they are accustomed to earn money show them the opposite. This undermines their self-esteem about themselves, about their game. They think it also had a big impact that the whole table was watching and laughing. Probably some deep feelings and emotions from childhood that did not manifest themselves in poker were at work, which allowed him to win until that moment. The rest of the professionals also need to think about this, suddenly the moment will come when they will have something similar.
Most gamblers will think like that, especially if they still feel they can win the gambling game. He didn't think that it was just his imagination that could cause him to suffer even more losses. If he continues to underestimate his opponent, he will lose and be unable to achieve a win.

Many people who feel they are professionals but find that they are defeated by those who are not professionals will feel uncomfortable and perhaps angry. But those who are truly professional will not do something like that. Instead, they will praise him and say that those who are not professional have succeeded in making him lose. It proves that there is still sky above the sky. The professional will not always be a professional because new ones will replace them. But for experience, professionals are still superior, and those who have just won from professional gamblers must be able to admit it. This is where there is a supportive nature from each party.

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He only got moved by the fact that he can't lose to a novice, as you said. That's the fall of most men today, believing that some people can't be better than them in their field. Gambling is not a game where we'd be moved by the reactions of people around us, like in the story, the man was bothered by the laughter of those around him. He wasn't prepared to face the shame and, hence preferred to lose more money to cover for it, thereby chasing loss. The story is nice and also helps to prove that some professional gamblers can still get addicted to gambling. Because at some point, they won't be able to control their emotions and make a series of mistakes, without knowing or being aware of it. We all have different motives and our actions change each day of the gambling session. The game can change, and the results may seem promising, so the gambler may play reluctantly, trusting that he will win, just in a few predictions.

A professional can be challenged with such a situation, where he thinks it's his day and nothing can stop him from seizing the opportunity. Not realizing that no gambler has a day. Outcomes or results change, hence nobody is entitled to winning, alone. A newbie can win more than a pro, someday. Those who gamble because others did, will deceived into thinking that if a newbie wins, while won't there win also. In the process, they'll end up losing all their bank roll and rush to take loans to gamble, like in the case of the man in the movie, illustrated above. Once it gets to taking a loan the gambler is close to becoming addicted, as he can't wager games with his full mind anymore. He will play to gain back enough money to fund or pay back his debts. Therefore, putting himself in a more severe problem, all because of a mistake he made out of ego or trying to prove that he's a competent gambler. Anybody can get addicted, not minding his level of gambling knowledge, pro or new.
If someone feels arrogant and boasts about himself and feels better than others, he will face defeat from others. Sooner or later, this will happen, and as a professional gambler, he should be able to control himself and choose not to continue gambling instead of borrowing money and losing all his money. And yes, even a professional gambler can become addicted to gambling if he loses control of himself so much that he doesn't realize that he has changed just because a beginner beat him. It would be really sad if a professional gambler experienced that. That means he still needs to learn many things so that he is not affected by anything that happens while he is gambling and can remain a wise professional gambler. A professional gambler should be able to act better than a beginner and can take care of himself well too.

But usually, a professional gambler who is challenged by a novice gambler will underestimate the novice gambler's abilities so that he seems to be just gambling carelessly. But after a few rounds, he must have seen that the novice gambler had better gambling skills, but he didn't want to admit it. It turned out that after gambling for a while, the professional gambler was defeated by a novice gambler, and he couldn't accept it. If he ends up being provoked by his emotions and wants to avenge his defeat, he will not stop himself but will instead be even more eager to beat the novice gambler. Conversely, the novice gambler can actually carry himself calmly and not be provoked by the professional gambler and ends up winning the gambling game. It was a sad ending experienced by a professional gambler, and it would be a matter of pride for the novice gambler because he managed to beat a professional gambler.

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