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September 01, 2023, 01:18:23 PM
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This won't work because once you get addicted, your families will question your stressful looks and where your money goes after you get them. Sometimes people who hide their gambling habits fall into debt because they don't want to ask for money from their parents siblings or friends and in the end, they will just know the truth because a person like this will lose every chance he has to hide it.
I have a real experience of this. I have seen a friend of mine who gambles constantly. When he lost all his money, he tries to borrow. He had enough respect that people would lend him as much money as he asked. But when he loses gambling again, he again borrows money from other people. Thus he gambled for some time. At some point no one lends him money. Then he felt very worried after losing the money and he took loan from various financial institutions. But when it's time to pay the money, he fails to return the loan money and all the lenders visits their house and the family learns about his gambling activities. Then his gambling issue was no longer suppressed.

I am the one who lends money to my friends to gamble. I know he is a gambling addict. When he came to ask me about the loan, he said he needed money to take care of his family. I put aside all doubts and gladly lend it to him. The last thing I told him was not to take money to play cards. The truth is that my trust was misplaced. I just lost money and lost friendships.

I am also a person who could be addicted to gambling, but my addiction never affects the people around me. Only sometimes, when I lose a bet, do I say bitter words.

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September 01, 2023, 02:08:22 PM
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This won't work because once you get addicted, your families will question your stressful looks and where your money goes after you get them. Sometimes people who hide their gambling habits fall into debt because they don't want to ask for money from their parents siblings or friends and in the end, they will just know the truth because a person like this will lose every chance he has to hide it.

A person can hide his stressfulness by making excuses that he feels stressed at work or at study but the main problem is the money. When you start gambling, you will use your money in gambling and if you lose the majority of the money, then your family will ask you questions as to where are you spending that money.

Also, if you are online gambling and using a shared computer, someone may find that you are accessing the gambling sites from the history of that computer or maybe see you live when you are gambling on your system.

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September 01, 2023, 03:12:17 PM
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This won't work because once you get addicted, your families will question your stressful looks and where your money goes after you get them. Sometimes people who hide their gambling habits fall into debt because they don't want to ask for money from their parents siblings or friends and in the end, they will just know the truth because a person like this will lose every chance he has to hide it.
I have a real experience of this. I have seen a friend of mine who gambles constantly. When he lost all his money, he tries to borrow. He had enough respect that people would lend him as much money as he asked. But when he loses gambling again, he again borrows money from other people. Thus he gambled for some time. At some point no one lends him money. Then he felt very worried after losing the money and he took loan from various financial institutions. But when it's time to pay the money, he fails to return the loan money and all the lenders visits their house and the family learns about his gambling activities. Then his gambling issue was no longer suppressed.

I am the one who lends money to my friends to gamble. I know he is a gambling addict. When he came to ask me about the loan, he said he needed money to take care of his family. I put aside all doubts and gladly lend it to him. The last thing I told him was not to take money to play cards. The truth is that my trust was misplaced. I just lost money and lost friendships.

I am also a person who could be addicted to gambling, but my addiction never affects the people around me. Only sometimes, when I lose a bet, do I say bitter words.

That's somehow normal mainly after the fact that you've said, the good thing is that you had a valid reason but make sure that after any heated argument, you should know when to apologize so that the wound will heal afterwards because if you don't, maybe those words will be as lethal as destroying someone's life just because you lose a bet.

But for the experience you got, fortunately for me, they respected me for what I am and even if I'm their friend who is also a gambler, they aren't coming to me to loan some money just to gamble and will only loan for emergencies only because value our friendship. You know, money can break things apart if it's not handled correctly.

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September 01, 2023, 04:09:21 PM
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On one hand it is correct to keep gambling passion in secret, but in the other we keep gambling in secret, cryptocurrency in secret, salary in secret - everything is in secret. Is it normal? I think it is not. Other opinion, why should I keep something in secret, specially how can you keep habit in secret, if I am a grown up adult. Imho I dont. I dont have to care much about other opinion, I must make my own decision and have own opinion.

Some of them wouldn't mind if their secret was revealed. They can reason out afterward. Somehow they avoided defending the habit as there was nothing to defend yet. Thus preventing having something to argue with a wife or an envious in-law.

Let's say they just found out you gambled some of your money every month. From now on they may just talk to you about it and instead of having the freedom to browse and be alone on your laptop, your wife may just be watching over your shoulder. Worse your in-laws are also there watching you. Revealing to your biological brother, I think it's fine but some may find it not fine.

Still dont understand why I should keep gambling in secret if I gamble with my own money. I should not be shy of it or feel uncomfortable. That is just stupid. I dont keep in secret if I buy beer, bread or something, but I must hide that I spend money on gambling. If a person hides that he gambles from his family, then there is something fishy with his funds, or something wrong with his mind.

I can only assume you're not married yet?
Maybe I married the wrong woman, realization only happens when it's over but we're family and gotta stick together. I don't wanna hear her nagging every morning or my kid hearing about it because I also don't want him getting serious about the cards we play at home.

Experience teaches us lessons and learned it the hard way when she nags all day so keeping her calm helps her and me and my kid. If it had happened before, its best to keep things secret from her.  Grin


Lol, maybe you are married wrong woman (joking, there are no wrong or right wifes, there are only yours  Grin). I am married, have a kid. Perhaps my wife is simply different. I have never heard nagging about spending money on gambling, crypto. I am not the only one who brings money to family. In fact, when I told her I dream about buying a motorcycle, and finally bought it (thanks to crypto). I have never heard anything like “choose either your hobby, or family”, “motorcycles are dangerous”, “think about your kid, I dont want to become widow”. That is why I dont understand why I should keep something in secret. I would better be open, because the truth will come out anyway.

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September 01, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
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That's because of their excitement, most people tend to show others that they are winning but not being able to share their losses. Why? maybe because of their pride. I remember so many people. LOL. It is one of the reasons why some other people who know nothing about gambling get to start gambling because they are hooked by those people who share their winnings.
You are right because it is about self-esteem that has been tarnished by experiencing loss and that is why they will not want to tell others the truth. They will choose to hide it to themselves, especially if the people around them already know them as someone who is an expert at analyzing every match. It would be an embarrassment for them if anyone found out. But people who hide their gambling activities from others really don't want to tell other people, and it's not because they have experienced loss that they don't want to say it. Perhaps it is because the response from other people and his environment that concerns him not to say that he likes gambling and gambles often.
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September 01, 2023, 06:33:03 PM
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That's because of their excitement, most people tend to show others that they are winning but not being able to share their losses. Why? maybe because of their pride. I remember so many people. LOL. It is one of the reasons why some other people who know nothing about gambling get to start gambling because they are hooked by those people who share their winnings.
You are right because it is about self-esteem that has been tarnished by experiencing loss and that is why they will not want to tell others the truth. They will choose to hide it to themselves, especially if the people around them already know them as someone who is an expert at analyzing every match. It would be an embarrassment for them if anyone found out. But people who hide their gambling activities from others really don't want to tell other people, and it's not because they have experienced loss that they don't want to say it. Perhaps it is because the response from other people and his environment that concerns him not to say that he likes gambling and gambles often.

Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.

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September 01, 2023, 08:33:00 PM
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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.
We're open to whatever brings good profits to our pocket and gambling happens to be one of the activity that brings reasonable amounts. We gamble to earn and not gambling to record substantial losses in the space. We're humans and there's always presence for us to make wrongs. Anticipating in gambling, ofcourse we should be extremely careful with the system, because it doesn't provide the necessary solid plans for us, and volatile which means it can goes against our expectations in any point in time. Keeping our actions concerning gambling discreet, definitely seem good in some ways and totally out of line in other scenarios. 

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September 01, 2023, 08:45:52 PM
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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.
Yes that is the reality. They hide their status as active gamblers for fear that their family or relatives where they work will find out. I think this is a normal thing in our place and gradually the gambling they do will also be known by their colleagues at work. Whether it's the slip of the tongue or the insanely fun illustrating of hitting a huge multiplier.

Maintaining your status as a gambler is quite difficult because both from a financial perspective and one's movements, it is also easy to guess that someone is an active gambler. Therefore, the wisest thing is to accept big consequences if family relatives find out about our activities in gambling.

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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.


The foremost factor behind hiding the gambling involvement will be the people doesn’t involve in gambling will start to advice not to play the gambling.The reason behind it was very simple,the advising person may come across some of the gambling addict and who loss the big money in gambling.If we had a self control to get away from the addiction you can easily join the gambling and get entertain yourself from our external world stress.All of us had huge stress from our regular stress from the manager and from the boss.The ego clash between the manager and owner will make us no peaceful job nature.To such condition,the gambling will be the big relief to us.

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September 01, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.
We're open to whatever brings good profits to our pocket and gambling happens to be one of the activity that brings reasonable amounts. We gamble to earn and not gambling to record substantial losses in the space. We're humans and there's always presence for us to make wrongs. Anticipating in gambling, ofcourse we should be extremely careful with the system, because it doesn't provide the necessary solid plans for us, and volatile which means it can goes against our expectations in any point in time. Keeping our actions concerning gambling discreet, definitely seem good in some ways and totally out of line in other scenarios. 
It is very important for us to be very observant and watch well before we take decisions even when we are doing what is giving us money. We need to keep our gambling lifestyle secret from our children and family so that they will not follow that path since they might not be aware of the risks that is involved if they don't control the way they gamble. Gambling can easily influence people around us if they noticed that we keep making consistent profits from it which is what everyone of us want to be seeing. This alone can attract non gamblers to start seeing reasons to gambler.

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September 02, 2023, 01:36:14 AM
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That's because of their excitement, most people tend to show others that they are winning but not being able to share their losses. Why? maybe because of their pride. I remember so many people. LOL. It is one of the reasons why some other people who know nothing about gambling get to start gambling because they are hooked by those people who share their winnings.
You are right because it is about self-esteem that has been tarnished by experiencing loss and that is why they will not want to tell others the truth. They will choose to hide it to themselves, especially if the people around them already know them as someone who is an expert at analyzing every match. It would be an embarrassment for them if anyone found out. But people who hide their gambling activities from others really don't want to tell other people, and it's not because they have experienced loss that they don't want to say it. Perhaps it is because the response from other people and his environment that concerns him not to say that he likes gambling and gambles often.
There is more to the whole dance of concealment and self-esteem than just loss. Consider this: a professional gambler's credibility is correlated with their ability to forecast results. It's practically algorithmic. Lose something, and your credibility declines. Is it really that easy, though? Not at all

Those who bet, particularly those regarded as "analytical maestros," are always under observation. It's not just about the sadness of a past loss; it's also about the never-ending questioning, the unbearable murmurs, and the mocking looks from colleagues, A throbbing subterranean of social pressures is at work here. It's more important to keep your reputation spotless than it is to feel guilty about losing

Regarding the secrecy, it's a complex concoction of environmental judgment and loss aversion. Gambling is a nuanced symphony of psychology, strategy, and pure gut feeling; it's more than simply dice and cards

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September 02, 2023, 03:59:24 AM
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It is very important for us to be very observant and watch well before we take decisions even when we are doing what is giving us money. We need to keep our gambling lifestyle secret from our children and family so that they will not follow that path since they might not be aware of the risks that is involved if they don't control the way they gamble. Gambling can easily influence people around us if they noticed that we keep making consistent profits from it which is what everyone of us want to be seeing. This alone can attract non gamblers to start seeing reasons to gambler.
I could understand hiding that fact you gamble to kids and young people, as they learn by imitation and if they saw you gamble they may try it when they are nowhere near as mature to take that decision in a responsible way.

However I really think at least one of your family members should know about it as a form of fail-safe, after all even if you believe you will never get addicted, it is impossible for you to be sure about this 100%, and if no one knows what you are doing your addiction could proceed unimpeded, but if another family member knows what you are doing they could realize what is going on and get you some early help.

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September 02, 2023, 04:45:18 AM
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This won't work because once you get addicted, your families will question your stressful looks and where your money goes after you get them. Sometimes people who hide their gambling habits fall into debt because they don't want to ask for money from their parents siblings or friends and in the end, they will just know the truth because a person like this will lose every chance he has to hide it.

A person can hide his stressfulness by making excuses that he feels stressed at work or at study but the main problem is the money. When you start gambling, you will use your money in gambling and if you lose the majority of the money, then your family will ask you questions as to where are you spending that money.

Also, if you are online gambling and using a shared computer, someone may find that you are accessing the gambling sites from the history of that computer or maybe see you live when you are gambling on your system.
Every gambler has his own way of being able to hide the gambling addiction that he has felt so far and they can also hide anxiety and stress when they lose a lot of money because they lose gambling, but not all gamblers will be completely open even with their families regarding finances and every activity is carried out so that no one in the family will ask about financial matters.
But the family lives under the same roof and understands the character and daily behavior so that when there is anxiety or restlessness there will be questions but not about money but about why he is such a confused person and acting strangely.

It looks like that won't happen when we gamble using a computer in a certain room add more to delete the search history so no one knows if we often access gambling sites.
There are many ways you can do it if you just want to hide all gambling activities.

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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.
We're open to whatever brings good profits to our pocket and gambling happens to be one of the activity that brings reasonable amounts. We gamble to earn and not gambling to record substantial losses in the space. We're humans and there's always presence for us to make wrongs. Anticipating in gambling, ofcourse we should be extremely careful with the system, because it doesn't provide the necessary solid plans for us, and volatile which means it can goes against our expectations in any point in time. Keeping our actions concerning gambling discreet, definitely seem good in some ways and totally out of line in other scenarios. 
Everybody enjoys the occasional nice wager. That spike? Worthless. However, moderation and the right combination are key, just like with a great cocktail. Sure, profits are alluring. Not to mention that the house is perpetually on the brink. Go deep into the tactics, the figures, and the patterns. Turn into the player the house is afraid of!

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September 02, 2023, 05:25:48 AM
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That's because of their excitement, most people tend to show others that they are winning but not being able to share their losses. Why? maybe because of their pride. I remember so many people. LOL. It is one of the reasons why some other people who know nothing about gambling get to start gambling because they are hooked by those people who share their winnings.
You are right because it is about self-esteem that has been tarnished by experiencing loss and that is why they will not want to tell others the truth. They will choose to hide it to themselves, especially if the people around them already know them as someone who is an expert at analyzing every match. It would be an embarrassment for them if anyone found out. But people who hide their gambling activities from others really don't want to tell other people, and it's not because they have experienced loss that they don't want to say it. Perhaps it is because the response from other people and his environment that concerns him not to say that he likes gambling and gambles often.
Yes, that's right, most people will hide their gambling from other people, because they think that some people cannot accept it (about gambling) because some people think that gambling will have a negative impact, but in my opinion there are some people who want to tell about their gambling. are brave people, why not? sometimes a person will only talk to certain people who he considers to be his angelic helpers and maybe by telling these people the burden experienced by gamblers will feel lighter because someone responds well.

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Lol, maybe you are married wrong woman (joking, there are no wrong or right wifes, there are only yours  Grin). I am married, have a kid. Perhaps my wife is simply different. I have never heard nagging about spending money on gambling, crypto. I am not the only one who brings money to family. In fact, when I told her I dream about buying a motorcycle, and finally bought it (thanks to crypto). I have never heard anything like “choose either your hobby, or family”, “motorcycles are dangerous”, “think about your kid, I dont want to become widow”. That is why I dont understand why I should keep something in secret. I would better be open, because the truth will come out anyway.

When it comes to sharing secret things with your family (especially your wife), I don't think there is anything to hide. No matter who earns the money. But one thing is if you gamble for fun, your wife won't ask you why are you spending money on that. But if you are addicted to gambling, I guess she has the right to ask you to stop doing it.

I also bought my own motorcycle three years ago and she never told me like why are you buying that? In fact, I enjoy riding a motorcycle with her. One thing she suggests is to drive slowly and carefully. That's all she says to me. 

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September 02, 2023, 10:11:48 AM
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When it comes to sharing secret things with your family (especially your wife), I don't think there is anything to hide. No matter who earns the money. But one thing is if you gamble for fun, your wife won't ask you why are you spending money on that. But if you are addicted to gambling, I guess she has the right to ask you to stop doing it.


In a family relationship, especially with your wife, it is better not to keep anything secret, you can exchange opinions or talk about whatever you are experiencing, especially maybe in terms of earning income, indeed gambling just for fun is not a problem because it should be like that, but in my opinion if you tell your wife about this I don't think this is a good idea even though you are not addicted, but the worries of a wife will always be there, and maybe it can create arguments between the two of you. You say that you're not addicted but that's only now and in the future you could be addicted to it, so I'm sure your wife will scold you for that, because after all it has the potential to damage the family economy. So I think it's better to keep it a secret than to cause new problems in the family, and still assume that gambling is just for fun, not more than that.

I also bought my own motorcycle three years ago and she never told me like why are you buying that? In fact, I enjoy riding a motorcycle with her. One thing she suggests is to drive slowly and carefully. That's all she says to me. 


I don't think it means that your wife doesn't care about anything you do, she let you buy the motorcycle without questioning your reasons maybe because she also knows that the motorcycle you bought will be useful for the family, besides being able to go for walks it can also be used for other needs such as going to work. And I don't think that's strange because there is no risk from your decision to buy a motorcycle, in fact it will be very useful, but if you tell her about your gambling and then your wife doesn't respond to anything, well that's just a little strange in my opinion, and I'm sure your wife will forbid it and tell you to stop immediately, because everyone knows gambling is very risky and I'm sure your wife doesn't want anything to happen to you for that action.

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September 02, 2023, 01:53:35 PM
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Most factors that affects gamblers to hide his participation into gambling is the kind of environment which can't embrace the reality that there are people who involve themselves into gambling and some can manage to balance life and wisely earn decently, they are not vocable with their gambling participation and they choose to hide it.

Knowing that there are criticism that will circulate and they are not willing to face such kinds of confrontations.
If it is from the environment, those who live in that environment will only give a bad assessment of someone who gambles. According to them, people who gamble will only have a bad influence on their environment. They will also advise people who gamble to immediately stop gambling so that no one will experience gambling addiction, especially in their environment. It is difficult to stay in that environment because they already judge gambling as something bad even though they forget that there are people who can control themselves well and use gambling wisely.

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There is more to the whole dance of concealment and self-esteem than just loss. Consider this: a professional gambler's credibility is correlated with their ability to forecast results. It's practically algorithmic. Lose something, and your credibility declines. Is it really that easy, though? Not at all

Those who bet, particularly those regarded as "analytical maestros," are always under observation. It's not just about the sadness of a past loss; it's also about the never-ending questioning, the unbearable murmurs, and the mocking looks from colleagues, A throbbing subterranean of social pressures is at work here. It's more important to keep your reputation spotless than it is to feel guilty about losing

Regarding the secrecy, it's a complex concoction of environmental judgment and loss aversion. Gambling is a nuanced symphony of psychology, strategy, and pure gut feeling; it's more than simply dice and cards
And those who are used to criticism from their environment will not respond to what other people say. They won't think about it as long as they don't bother him in real life and only in words. Maybe one day, they will move to another place because they can't stand the environment and can't accept it well. For this reason, maybe they tend to hide their gambling activities from other people because they don't want to go against the people in their environment.

They will choose to keep their mouths shut by not saying anything about their gambling activities. It will be better for them because they can carry on with their usual activities and won't be disturbed by people from their environment. And they can also continue their gambling activities in peace without anyone disturbing them.

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Yes, that's right, most people will hide their gambling from other people, because they think that some people cannot accept it (about gambling) because some people think that gambling will have a negative impact, but in my opinion there are some people who want to tell about their gambling. are brave people, why not? sometimes a person will only talk to certain people who he considers to be his angelic helpers and maybe by telling these people the burden experienced by gamblers will feel lighter because someone responds well.
That's because the people around him will immediately say bad things about gambling and will probably set real examples of people who have experienced gambling addiction. This can be done to make people aware who have started gambling so that they can stop gambling. But if someone can control himself well and can be wise in playing gambling, it is likely that he will not listen to other people and will continue to play gambling as usual and will pay more attention to his activities properly.
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However I really think at least one of your family members should know about it as a form of fail-safe, after all even if you believe you will never get addicted, it is impossible for you to be sure about this 100%, and if no one knows what you are doing your addiction could proceed unimpeded, but if another family member knows what you are doing they could realize what is going on and get you some early help.
exactly! the way you say this is one way to protect yourself to avoid addiction, I mean maybe nowadays ordinary gamblers who only bet when they have money or come to gambling once a week will definitely have the opportunity to become addicted when a bad situation occurs. this gambling activity if we do not have people who give us the best advice about our activities it will definitely be bad in the long run because like the experiences of some gamblers I have heard when hiding gambling activities from anyone and suddenly selling cars to repay loans that have been he did it to gamble and to his surprise the family and people around were shocked to see this person selling a car at a high price but the money did not know where to go and it turned out to be to cover the debt he had borrowed. It all starts with people who are addicted to gambling but do not realize that they are addicted and gambling addicts always feel like they are fine.

tell at least one person in his family to know about his activities to avoid incidents like this.

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Lol, maybe you are married wrong woman (joking, there are no wrong or right wifes, there are only yours  Grin). I am married, have a kid. Perhaps my wife is simply different. I have never heard nagging about spending money on gambling, crypto. I am not the only one who brings money to family. In fact, when I told her I dream about buying a motorcycle, and finally bought it (thanks to crypto). I have never heard anything like “choose either your hobby, or family”, “motorcycles are dangerous”, “think about your kid, I dont want to become widow”. That is why I dont understand why I should keep something in secret. I would better be open, because the truth will come out anyway.

When it comes to sharing secret things with your family (especially your wife), I don't think there is anything to hide. No matter who earns the money. But one thing is if you gamble for fun, your wife won't ask you why are you spending money on that. But if you are addicted to gambling, I guess she has the right to ask you to stop doing it.

I also bought my own motorcycle three years ago and she never told me like why are you buying that? In fact, I enjoy riding a motorcycle with her. One thing she suggests is to drive slowly and carefully. That's all she says to me. 
It's absolutely ridiculous to even compare a motorcycle to gambling, which woman will complain about her husband buying a motorcycle when they clearly need one? I think none, transportation is very expensive nowadays and I think it is clearly stupid to as a family man, not have your own means of transportation, so there is never a time spending money on a motorcycle can be considered a waste..

But come back to gambling, use that same amount of money you used in purchasing a motorcycle and play gambling, and loss the money, and tell your wife about it, and then see how she will react  Grin

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