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September 09, 2023, 04:35:23 AM
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Yes, it's true that if someone gambles with the aim of earning, he tends to get addicted because he will continue to gamble and risk his money so he can get more money than before. Indeed, this sounds very stupid and strange, if it is not controlled properly then it is very likely that he will lose and far from winning, because he is greedy and really hopes for luck.
And it is true that a person who hides his gambling will reduce his interaction with his environment and cover it up as much as possible, because if he loses then people will most likely ridicule him, and if he wins it is likely that the result will be bad. the results of the victory will be used (utilized) by the people around him.
I think that people will not laugh at another person who lost money in casino or betting. He will hide this addiction because people always have a negative attitude towards those who are addicted to gambling. It is only because of society's judgement of gambling that people hide it.
However, what I see around me is that people who are caught losing at the casino tend to laugh and don't care about their feelings and this is what makes gambling addicts hide their gambling. What you say is true, there are some people who think that gambling is a negative behavior, but if we gamble in a good and correct way then we will actually get a profit.
Maybe we have different views on gambling. But it seems to me that for society it doesn't matter if you are a good gambler or if you have an addiction and lose all the time, you will still cause bad emotions because of gambling. Society condemns such activities, so it is best not to tell anyone about it.
Gambling is such an addiction that even if a good gambler the addict is addicted to gambling. Gambling creates lawlessness in society when the player feels compelled to play so he cannot refrain from repeating the gambling activity and he does not control the way the game is played. Due to the influence of gambling, conflict and strife increased in the society. A beautifully orderly society gradually turns chaotic due to gambling if you can control yourself the negative effects of addiction will not fall on the society.

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September 09, 2023, 04:43:46 AM
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Precisely, there are always different opinions regarding to how people accept things regarding to your gambling participation, and regarding to that there's also differences in terms of how a person respect someone's privacy, though we know by a fact that most of the time negative impressions coming from other people around us always take place when they learn about your gambling participation,.

If gamblers are been discriminated in our surrounding and there's a way we can keep our gambling habit a secret from the public then we should do it because the public judgement can make use feel ashamed and when that happens it might affect our gambling results.

While we hide our gambling activities from the public we shouldn't hide our gambling from our family and love ones because they'll be the ones to help us if we're getting addicted to gambling and that's why they have to know what we're doing so they'll be prepared if it happens.

If we hide our gambling activities from our family and loved ones, we might regret it because there will be no one to prevent us from going the extreme miles for money to used in gambling when we begin to go low on funds to use due to we over gambling and exceeding budget.

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September 09, 2023, 12:41:11 PM
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Gambling is such an addiction that even if a good gambler the addict is addicted to gambling. Gambling creates lawlessness in society when the player feels compelled to play so he cannot refrain from repeating the gambling activity and he does not control the way the game is played. Due to the influence of gambling, conflict and strife increased in the society. A beautifully orderly society gradually turns chaotic due to gambling if you can control yourself the negative effects of addiction will not fall on the society.
But a good gambler can control himself so as not to become addicted to gambling because he already knows that he must be able to gamble in moderation and not use a lot of money. But if he prefers to gamble secretly, he should also know that he has more chances of becoming a gambling addict, especially if he does not have good self-control. And when he becomes a gambling addict, he will probably gamble longer than before he became a gambling addict because, at that time, all he can think about is gambling. It can also cause problems that will grow in the family because it will disrupt the family's financial position.

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September 09, 2023, 10:24:05 PM
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Gambling is such an addiction that even if a good gambler the addict is addicted to gambling. Gambling creates lawlessness in society when the player feels compelled to play so he cannot refrain from repeating the gambling activity and he does not control the way the game is played. Due to the influence of gambling, conflict and strife increased in the society. A beautifully orderly society gradually turns chaotic due to gambling if you can control yourself the negative effects of addiction will not fall on the society.
But a good gambler can control himself so as not to become addicted to gambling because he already knows that he must be able to gamble in moderation and not use a lot of money. But if he prefers to gamble secretly, he should also know that he has more chances of becoming a gambling addict, especially if he does not have good self-control. And when he becomes a gambling addict, he will probably gamble longer than before he became a gambling addict because, at that time, all he can think about is gambling. It can also cause problems that will grow in the family because it will disrupt the family's financial position.
Well, that is something that many gambling addicts take into consideration, because if we gamble in secret then most likely we will not be able to control our gambling because there is no one to advise us when we gamble excessively, and you are right. That over time we will become gambling addicts because all we chase is victory and ignore defeat.
And if we don't have self-control when gambling, then it is true that the money we have will be lost and this will cause problems for our family.

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September 10, 2023, 04:26:53 AM
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I think that people will not laugh at another person who lost money in casino or betting. He will hide this addiction because people always have a negative attitude towards those who are addicted to gambling. It is only because of society's judgement of gambling that people hide it.
However, what I see around me is that people who are caught losing at the casino tend to laugh and don't care about their feelings and this is what makes gambling addicts hide their gambling. What you say is true, there are some people who think that gambling is a negative behavior, but if we gamble in a good and correct way then we will actually get a profit.
Maybe we have different views on gambling. But it seems to me that for society it doesn't matter if you are a good gambler or if you have an addiction and lose all the time, you will still cause bad emotions because of gambling. Society condemns such activities, so it is best not to tell anyone about it.
Yes, everyone has their own views about gambling, some consider gambling negative and some consider gambling just to entertain themselves, gambling still raises pros and cons in this society. When we gamble, emotional feelings will just appear when we lose or win, that's natural, so what you say is true, we should just keep quiet and keep it a secret from others, because it's a matter of privacy and not everyone can accept it. gamble.

Precisely, there are always different opinions regarding to how people accept things regarding to your gambling participation, and regarding to that there's also differences in terms of how a person respect someone's privacy, though we know by a fact that most of the time negative impressions coming from other people around us always take place when they learn about your gambling participation,.

Either you are just doing it for entertainment or you are seriously taking it for money. It's up to you if you wanted to share or you want to take it secretly.
Well, there is something that really catches the attention of some people and it is what we call acceptance. Regarding what they will say, there are many people who care a lot about what other people say and think, that if they play in casinos since if they make bets, they are addicts, because they are people who are not good for society, people will always see this type of things as bad, so things when people pay attention to what others say simply They are not happy, I believe that a habit of playing in a casino must always be done and fulfilled because the person wants to, and not stop or give importance to what others say.

The habits that are being used and accepted by society are that people can submit to certain very accepted things, such as leaving early to work in an office, arriving in the afternoons and more things like that, so these types of ethereal types are the ones that Namely, if you as a person don't feel good, then you don't do it. Regarding the habits of playing in a casino, it can be very good or bad depending on each person's thoughts.

A casino is not bad, it can only be bad when the person cannot control his impulses and does not manage to do things well, that is, if he loses a lot and becomes addicted, then people will see the decline of that player and yes, they can say a lot of bad things about that person, but it's not that everything is like that, there are people who play in a casino for a whole day, and they don't lose that much, in fact they know how to play and they know how to take great advantage of going to a casino, now they play online There is no way for them to know if they play or not, the neighbors have to be very gossipy to see how it can be done and if they play in casinos, but since most things are done through the Internet, through computers, people don't know anymore. They do something, so those who are gamblers don't have any kind of problem being players and playing as much as they want, when they are physical casinos it is more difficult, although I am one of those gamblers who when they go to casinos or something like that, They say it and without worrying about what others think.

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September 10, 2023, 05:01:05 AM
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Precisely, there are always different opinions regarding to how people accept things regarding to your gambling participation, and regarding to that there's also differences in terms of how a person respect someone's privacy, though we know by a fact that most of the time negative impressions coming from other people around us always take place when they learn about your gambling participation,.

If gamblers are been discriminated in our surrounding and there's a way we can keep our gambling habit a secret from the public then we should do it because the public judgement can make use feel ashamed and when that happens it might affect our gambling results.

While we hide our gambling activities from the public we shouldn't hide our gambling from our family and love ones because they'll be the ones to help us if we're getting addicted to gambling and that's why they have to know what we're doing so they'll be prepared if it happens.

If we hide our gambling activities from our family and loved ones, we might regret it because there will be no one to prevent us from going the extreme miles for money to used in gambling when we begin to go low on funds to use due to we over gambling and exceeding budget.
In reality gambling has its positives and negatives aspects if it disclosed to others. Among the downsides are the gamblers they may be criticized by others who may be humiliated. Sometimes their own decisions may be hindered. But the good side is that if a gambler shares his gambling with whom he can get good suggestions which can help him to win in gambling or get the right solution if he has any addiction like you mentioned. I think a gambler should share his gambling with a trusted person. In this case, it can be someone from your own family or some other relatives or friends.

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September 10, 2023, 06:18:40 AM
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Gambling is such an addiction that even if a good gambler the addict is addicted to gambling. Gambling creates lawlessness in society when the player feels compelled to play so he cannot refrain from repeating the gambling activity and he does not control the way the game is played. Due to the influence of gambling, conflict and strife increased in the society. A beautifully orderly society gradually turns chaotic due to gambling if you can control yourself the negative effects of addiction will not fall on the society.
But a good gambler can control himself so as not to become addicted to gambling because he already knows that he must be able to gamble in moderation and not use a lot of money. But if he prefers to gamble secretly, he should also know that he has more chances of becoming a gambling addict, especially if he does not have good self-control. And when he becomes a gambling addict, he will probably gamble longer than before he became a gambling addict because, at that time, all he can think about is gambling. It can also cause problems that will grow in the family because it will disrupt the family's financial position.
Well, that is something that many gambling addicts take into consideration, because if we gamble in secret then most likely we will not be able to control our gambling because there is no one to advise us when we gamble excessively, and you are right. That over time we will become gambling addicts because all we chase is victory and ignore defeat.
And if we don't have self-control when gambling, then it is true that the money we have will be lost and this will cause problems for our family.
It cannot be denied that when gambling it is very difficult to control oneself, especially if there are problems (be it family problems or problems with a partner), quite a few people take it out on gambling and spend a lot of money on gambling, people who get emotional are usually difficult to control, controlling Self-control is necessary but only a few people can exercise self-control depending on the person, therefore there is no need to hide your gambling habits when you have a problem, talk about the problem carefully so that things don't happen that can harm yourself.

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September 10, 2023, 06:39:52 AM
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It cannot be denied that when gambling it is very difficult to control oneself, especially if there are problems (be it family problems or problems with a partner), quite a few people take it out on gambling and spend a lot of money on gambling, people who get emotional are usually difficult to control, controlling Self-control is necessary but only a few people can exercise self-control depending on the person, therefore there is no need to hide your gambling habits when you have a problem, talk about the problem carefully so that things don't happen that can harm yourself.

Yes, it's true, it's difficult for someone to control themselves when they're gambling, even when we're losing, emotions will definitely arise and immediately the gambling we do will immediately be discovered and people around us will definitely think negatively.
If you think other people should know about the gambling we do then the aim is to give advice so that we don't get addicted to gambling, I think that's a normal thing and I don't blame you for that, but it comes back to you, because someone has a different view. different. There are different things about gambling, there are those who like to keep it a secret or there are also those who are open to discussing the gambling they have experienced.

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September 10, 2023, 07:16:29 AM
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Well, that is something that many gambling addicts take into consideration, because if we gamble in secret then most likely we will not be able to control our gambling because there is no one to advise us when we gamble excessively, and you are right. That over time we will become gambling addicts because all we chase is victory and ignore defeat.
And if we don't have self-control when gambling, then it is true that the money we have will be lost and this will cause problems for our family.
By gambling in secret, our chances of remaining stable in gambling may disappear along with the circumstances that will happen to us so we may also become out of control. We just don't want to receive negative responses from the environment, making us hide our gambling activities from others. But for closed, people, they may feel comfortable doing something and feel free because no one will give them any feedback. They seemed to be in their own world and nothing disturbed them. But if they then gamble, it could give them the possibility of becoming addicted to gambling. However, it is difficult to explain to people who hide their gambling activities that they do not need to gamble secretly because it could have bad consequences for them. But those of us who live with them must not say that they will fall into gambling. Instead, we must embrace them and invite them to reduce their gambling activities so they do not experience gambling addiction.

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September 10, 2023, 11:25:17 AM
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In reality gambling has its positives and negatives aspects if it disclosed to others. Among the downsides are the gamblers they may be criticized by others who may be humiliated. Sometimes their own decisions may be hindered. But the good side is that if a gambler shares his gambling with whom he can get good suggestions which can help him to win in gambling or get the right solution if he has any addiction like you mentioned. I think a gambler should share his gambling with a trusted person. In this case, it can be someone from your own family or some other relatives or friends.
In fact, in certain countries or cities, gambling is judged only from the bad side, such as addiction, acting evilly to get money to gamble, robbing, stealing, etc. this is the reason why a gambler wants to hide his gambling activities because he does not want to be seen as someone who is bad just because he does the activity gambling and on the one hand there are still many reasons why someone hides their gambling activities and one of them is because they are in a Muslim area where gambling is considered haram as some people here say and I agree with you that even though hiding their gambling activities is not a problem but at least tell some people such as family or partner to be on guard if at any time the loss of control is indicated to be a little close to addictive behavior and the person beside you can help you without other people knowing.

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September 10, 2023, 11:49:01 AM
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We live in a society where people have different views about something and these views could be drawn based on different constituent like personal sentiment, religion, ideology and experience. And speaking of gamble there are those that view it as an irresponsible activity to embark on and whoever is into it is tag as irresponsible guy, for some it beyond being irresponsible but a sin something that is evil,  while some others out of an ugly experience of a loved one that got ruined by it due to extreme addiction.

These factors has made a number of gamblers to keep their gambling habit a secret doing all they could not to let friends and family  know they gamble. And it does seem like they ain't proud of what they're doing.

But why continue in what you're not proud of by keeping it secret cause maybe you're worried about what people may say, how their thoughts about your person might change. Or how you might loose ties with someone you hold dear to. And many other reasons that follows.

Those that keep their gambling habit a secret is it that they're not proud of what they are doing?.

By calling it a "habit" instead of just some casual gambling, maybe once or twice a week, you're already making it out to be a drastic problem that is only going to be compounded by trying to keep it a secret. Casual gambling is not in itself a problem and many people would not feel the need to share it with friends / family if they're just doing it for a bit of fun in their spare time. However trying to hide it, which may involve lying to people closest to you, is already suggesting that you are going down a dark path that needs correcting. If you've gotten that comfortable with lying to others in that scenario, then it's more likely you would try to steal or commit other bad acts to enable your gambling for longer.

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September 10, 2023, 11:52:10 AM
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We live in a society where people have different views about something and these views could be drawn based on different constituent like personal sentiment, religion, ideology and experience.
Why should I stop doing what I enjoy just because of society's opinions? As long as it's not illegal, I don't need to hide what I do. Gambling is a part of society, and even our everyday lives involve risks, which are a form of gambling in a way. So, I don't see any reason to hide my activities just because of religion or belief.

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I am also deeply convinced that if my activity does not harm others and does not contradict the laws of the country in which I live, I can do it as much as I want. There are many people on this planet who have different religions than me, but that does not mean that I should treat them worse than others like me or condemn their faith. Besides, I think that each of us should learn to live for ourselves and our families, not for society.

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September 10, 2023, 12:21:12 PM
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We live in a society where people have different views about something and these views could be drawn based on different constituent like personal sentiment, religion, ideology and experience.
Why should I stop doing what I enjoy just because of society's opinions? As long as it's not illegal, I don't need to hide what I do. Gambling is a part of society, and even our everyday lives involve risks, which are a form of gambling in a way. So, I don't see any reason to hide my activities just because of religion or belief.

That's about right. As long as it's not illegal there's nobody to stop us from doing it. Yet there are people who take it personally and start arguing with us.
As long as the thing we do is not harming ourselves, we should be good. But if it starts turning into a habit then that is where we need to stop.
We should know the boundary line and stay within it. People might talk shit about us but who cares as long as we are enjoying it.

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September 10, 2023, 12:35:48 PM
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We live in a society where people have different views about something and these views could be drawn based on different constituent like personal sentiment, religion, ideology and experience.
Why should I stop doing what I enjoy just because of society's opinions? As long as it's not illegal, I don't need to hide what I do. Gambling is a part of society, and even our everyday lives involve risks, which are a form of gambling in a way. So, I don't see any reason to hide my activities just because of religion or belief.
Actually, it is your right to publicize your gambling activities because it depends on various places and it is possible that your country legalizes gambling so you think it doesn't matter if people know you are gambling and don't think of it as something negative in the eyes of everyone around you. Maybe what the OP means is about personal sentiment, religion, ideology in his country, which means that perhaps gambling there is not legal.

In my country it is also the same because it is illegal so there are not many gamblers who play openly in public and not too conspicuously so that people around us don't know that we are gambling. I consider gambling to be a private activity in my opinion so only friends of gamblers can know I gamble while people around where I live never know that I gamble. It all comes back to each individual whether they want to publicize their gambling habits or not.  Cheesy

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September 10, 2023, 12:39:07 PM
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When we are doing something that we know is not incorrect or immoral but that we know other people may consider it to be the case then it is better to keep it a secret, as if you tell someone about the fact that you gamble and then that person tells to someone else you could easily end up facing some issues you never wanted to face with that person, however slowly but surely those outdated ideas against gambling are being left behind as gambling becomes more popular.

The right and wrong thing was based on the individual,some things are correct to some person.The same thing was wrong to other set of people,hacking was the illegal and unethical one.But to the hacker,the same was ethical one.Because they earn using the hacking,it was their own profession.The gambling itself not an ethical one to the Islamic community,other community people will try to use gambling as the real profession.So everything will be differ from person to person.If you are from the Muslim community,you can do the gambling with secret.Because the people from your community will do criticise your playing in the gambling.

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September 10, 2023, 12:49:33 PM
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We live in a society where people have different views about something and these views could be drawn based on different constituent like personal sentiment, religion, ideology and experience. And speaking of gamble there are those that view it as an irresponsible activity to embark on and whoever is into it is tag as irresponsible guy, for some it beyond being irresponsible but a sin something that is evil,  while some others out of an ugly experience of a loved one that got ruined by it due to extreme addiction.

These factors has made a number of gamblers to keep their gambling habit a secret doing all they could not to let friends and family  know they gamble. And it does seem like they ain't proud of what they're doing.

But why continue in what you're not proud of by keeping it secret cause maybe you're worried about what people may say, how their thoughts about your person might change. Or how you might loose ties with someone you hold dear to. And many other reasons that follows.

Those that keep their gambling habit a secret is it that they're not proud of what they are doing?.

By calling it a "habit" instead of just some casual gambling, maybe once or twice a week, you're already making it out to be a drastic problem that is only going to be compounded by trying to keep it a secret. Casual gambling is not in itself a problem and many people would not feel the need to share it with friends / family if they're just doing it for a bit of fun in their spare time. However trying to hide it, which may involve lying to people closest to you, is already suggesting that you are going down a dark path that needs correcting. If you've gotten that comfortable with lying to others in that scenario, then it's more likely you would try to steal or commit other bad acts to enable your gambling for longer.
I understand what you're saying: Placing a friendly wager on a horse race or dropping some cash in an online casino are not disastrous decisions. However, words are strong. The use of the word "habit" rather than "occasional fun" may be a subliminal admission of something deeper. Remember that delightful old saying, "Netflix and chill"? Think about the phrase "Netflix habit"? Kind of changes things, doesn’t it?

Comparable like eating a candy bar while keeping the wrappers hidden from others. Why conceal the evidence if it's merely a treat? Things become complicated at that point. Healthy gamblers may leave, laugh about their victories and losses, and interact honestly. But if you feel the want to conceal something, it could be time for some introspection

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September 11, 2023, 07:24:51 AM
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When we are doing something that we know is not incorrect or immoral but that we know other people may consider it to be the case then it is better to keep it a secret, as if you tell someone about the fact that you gamble and then that person tells to someone else you could easily end up facing some issues you never wanted to face with that person, however slowly but surely those outdated ideas against gambling are being left behind as gambling becomes more popular.

The right and wrong thing was based on the individual,some things are correct to some person.The same thing was wrong to other set of people,hacking was the illegal and unethical one.But to the hacker,the same was ethical one.Because they earn using the hacking,it was their own profession.The gambling itself not an ethical one to the Islamic community,other community people will try to use gambling as the real profession.So everything will be differ from person to person.If you are from the Muslim community,you can do the gambling with secret.Because the people from your community will do criticise your playing in the gambling.

Cultural differences is a big factor and yes, coming from your example regarding to hacker it was their profession and they find it profitable and there are also experienced gamblers who use gambling as a source of income, by following your statement, it's possible that there are times or there are people who want their gambling participation discreetly while other don't mind whatever behind them and will just move forward as long as there's no illegality with what they are doing, they've got that mindset that it's their money so it's their possession to control and to do whatever they like to do considering that gambling is part of their activities.

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September 11, 2023, 07:38:09 AM
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In my country it is also the same because it is illegal so there are not many gamblers who play openly in public and not too conspicuously so that people around us don't know that we are gambling. I consider gambling to be a private activity in my opinion so only friends of gamblers can know I gamble while people around where I live never know that I gamble. It all comes back to each individual whether they want to publicize their gambling habits or not.  Cheesy
I understand the situation where you live and as I said before, sometimes a place or region has a difference between whether gambling is permitted or gambling is prohibited because it violates the laws that have been determined and I also agree with what some people say here that sometimes gambling is also It is also considered haram by muslims so if a gambler lives in an area gambling is prohibited and most of the muslim population I am sure the gambler will hide his gambling activities for his own comfort.

and I am sure its not only you who hides your gambling activities but your neighbor probably also gambles often, its just that he looks normal but when he at home he can access online gambling sites just like you. sometimes its very funny when you are hanging out with friends and do not know that everyone in the hangout is a gambler, but they not show their activities, preferring to hide it.

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September 11, 2023, 08:28:45 AM
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When we are doing something that we know is not incorrect or immoral but that we know other people may consider it to be the case then it is better to keep it a secret, as if you tell someone about the fact that you gamble and then that person tells to someone else you could easily end up facing some issues you never wanted to face with that person, however slowly but surely those outdated ideas against gambling are being left behind as gambling becomes more popular.

The right and wrong thing was based on the individual,some things are correct to some person.The same thing was wrong to other set of people,hacking was the illegal and unethical one.But to the hacker,the same was ethical one.Because they earn using the hacking,it was their own profession.The gambling itself not an ethical one to the Islamic community,other community people will try to use gambling as the real profession.So everything will be differ from person to person.If you are from the Muslim community,you can do the gambling with secret.Because the people from your community will do criticise your playing in the gambling.

Cultural differences is a big factor and yes, coming from your example regarding to hacker it was their profession and they find it profitable and there are also experienced gamblers who use gambling as a source of income, by following your statement, it's possible that there are times or there are people who want their gambling participation discreetly while other don't mind whatever behind them and will just move forward as long as there's no illegality with what they are doing, they've got that mindset that it's their money so it's their possession to control and to do whatever they like to do considering that gambling is part of their activities.

The issue of legality will be an important thing in gambling, when gambling is legal in your country then gambling has become a normal and common thing to do. However, when gambling becomes an illegal activity and is not permitted, then gambling becomes taboo and prohibited.
People who openly gamble are of course aware of what will happen, perhaps they will not question their gambling status. But there are some people who keep their gambling a secret. Now gambling is easy for anyone to access.
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