Who among you here is gambling at work?

[junder]

Totally a distraction specially when you do your day job but you do end up on getting distracted just because your mind or brain is really that thinking about on playing gambling. This is something
that you should really be avoiding in the first place on which you arent that making yourself that putting at risk on your job but also you are putting up yourself on huge loss of money.
You dont have a job + you do have huge debt + you are that depressed. Then what would be the result? You wont really be having a good life. This is why everything in life
and every decisions and every steps you should make is something that would really be that putting you on such miserable life.

Of course it is a disorder that can trigger problematic actions, when we are working but our brain is thinking about gambling, we might put aside work and prioritize gambling. and of course this is definitely risky for yourself, where there is a possibility of getting into problems at work because we gamble in the work environment, absolutely everyone doesn't like gambling, so not all bosses like gambling, especially if you do it in the work environment where it can be disturbing to you. our own performance, in my opinion gambling in the work environment can take away our focus on the work we should be doing. You have to be professional and responsible, and if you gamble in the work environment, in my opinion it is an unprofessional action, because doing something other than work-related, especially gambling can have a big influence on our thinking.

That is the formula for life's destruction, not having a job is the same as not having an income, whereas we need income to meet our needs, including our hobbies. If you have a large debt, it is our responsibility to be able to pay and repay it, because the existing debt is due to our own actions and of course our own decisions. The messy and sad life is because of ourselves. Now if we think well and want to have financial freedom, of course we have to do our best, such as working and making a lot of money, of course it's not just thoughts but there must also be actions that must be taken, don't be like my friend who always wants changes in life for the better often. If you say that but there is no movement or action to prove it, that's the same as lying. and when you have a job that produces results, you hope you can look after it well, don't look for an illness that could trigger you losing your job, that would be a ridiculous thing if it happened, especially because of gambling.

[moneystery]

Doing active gambling like Slots, Dominoes, poker etc. that requires more focus while in the main job is not allowed.
It will instead interfere with those main jobs and just focus more on gambling.
Such employees lack loyalty and focus on the work they do, more concerned with what can actually be done elsewhere after work.

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

[maknyos]

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

I support your principle, gambling is not wrong as long as you control it well, know when to have fun and know when to work. Working can provide income, and from this income it can provide pleasure, this can only be achieved if someone can focus. It is important to be a responsible gambler, who can manage his time well, so that he doesn't make fatal mistakes such as gambling during working hours. No one can tolerate this, all company bosses will certainly take a firm stance by firing them if they are caught gambling during working hours.

[Questat]

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

I support your principle, gambling is not wrong as long as you control it well, know when to have fun and know when to work. Working can provide income, and from this income it can provide pleasure, this can only be achieved if someone can focus. It is important to be a responsible gambler, who can manage his time well, so that he doesn't make fatal mistakes such as gambling during working hours. No one can tolerate this, all company bosses will certainly take a firm stance by firing them if they are caught gambling during working hours.

What is wrong is gambling addiction, but once you own a company and you have employees who are gambling at work, and they assure they will not be addicted, you still should not tolerate that, as addiction doesn't happen right away; it will build slowly to a gambler until it becomes a serious problem. That will make an employee ineffective in the job assigned to him, so if you own the company, you are still paying people who are not effective? The answer is very simple; it should be a no.

That's why gambling is prohibited because it makes employees ineffective, and companies make sure to prevent that from happening, that's why they are proactive with it.

[ethereumhunter]

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

That's normal if you want to fired your employee because of he playing gambling games during working hour. We don't want to see his focus on his work will lose because of gambling and that will impact to his works and himself. The employee must separate his wants and his work and not doing another things in his works besides of his working. We can tells to all of our employee and always reminds them not doing something that can makes them lose their focus doing their works. All employees must responsibilities of their works and trying to grow their business.

[wxa7115]

Doing active gambling like Slots, Dominoes, poker etc. that requires more focus while in the main job is not allowed.
It will instead interfere with those main jobs and just focus more on gambling.
Such employees lack loyalty and focus on the work they do, more concerned with what can actually be done elsewhere after work.

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

This kind of view is not rare, which is why we do not recommend people to gamble at their job even if they have the time on their hands to do it, as the only thing needed for them to lose their job is for their boss to find out about it.

Besides it makes no sense, the economy in a great deal of countries is not doing well, so we must treasure our jobs and risking them just so we can gamble is a mistake, as we could gamble once we are out of our jobs and obtain the same fun without putting ourselves in danger of being fired.

[klidex]

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

I support your principle, gambling is not wrong as long as you control it well, know when to have fun and know when to work. Working can provide income, and from this income it can provide pleasure, this can only be achieved if someone can focus. It is important to be a responsible gambler, who can manage his time well, so that he doesn't make fatal mistakes such as gambling during working hours. No one can tolerate this, all company bosses will certainly take a firm stance by firing them if they are caught gambling during working hours.

I really agree with that, why keep retain workers who can't be responsible, gambling is not wrong, sometimes people are the ones who make mistakes using it. They don't know the place and don't know the time when we are working we have to be responsible to continue doing our work and not steal time to gamble because it reflects an unprofessional attitude at work, you need to know that work requires focus and not just thinking about your own pleasure just to achieve satisfaction. Moreover, gambling at work is not so fun if you are always being watched by someone and makes you restless, so that's why it's better to just gamble at home.

No boss likes to see their employees gambling, they will definitely be firm and fire them if necessary even though their position is high. Maybe they will be given a warning once but if you repeat it you can be fired with disrespect and without severance pay, therefore if you are an employee and want to keep working so don't do things beyond your limits and avoid things that will be detrimental to yourself, gambling requires money if you lose your job how can you gamble again?

[bakasabo]

But even if it is depends on the job, those who gamble from work, still are less focused on the game than those who gamble at free time. They are more relaxed. Isnt it a double stress when you gamble at work? First you get a dose of stress during the game, then you get a dose of stress from a possibility that during your game, you might get a work and you would have to stop the game suddenly. Or not stopping, but pausing or alt+tab the game and work.

It is not so much about getting focused in the game, you know, because when comes to the majority of casino games, one does not need to have much focus or be completely concentrated on them for us to play. I personally believe games like dices, Plinko or mines could easily fit within the category of idle games. Though, games like Crash and Blackjack require more concentration than the first ones I mentioned.

The risk then, it is not about the game but the job, instead. If one has a job which require us to have concentration on the task, then it becomes risky to gamble while working. Could you imagine to have a crane operator gambling while working in his heavy machine? If he gets distracted  enough from the game, he may lose 10 bucks in crash, if he gets distracted from the controls of the machine, he could actually crash against a building or people. One needs to have one's priorities clear when comes to gambling and working and in the case of this thread, I would definitely say the priority is the job, since thanks to the job one is able to gamble. 

Then I gamble different games, as they require focus. Like you have mentioned crash. If you dont follow the game, you might place a bet after a crash with a high multiplier, and the chance that it is going to crash quicker is high. Also when it has crashed at 1.00, the chance that it is going to crash at 1.00 again next time are rather low. And when you alt+tab all the time, or got distracted, it is easy to miss that moment.

Ive said it depends on the job. As a crane operator, I would not gamble at work, even though their work does not require operating all the time. Part of the time they just wait and watch how the cargo is being unloaded. And that does not happen quick. So theoretically, he has half an hour of free time.

Actually, it is funny you mention that little "strategy" for crash, because it is something I have actually done in the past while playing. I try to wait for the game to crash at a very low number before going it and seek for a multiplier of at least 3x, though I am aware that it is not as reliable as it sounds because there is always a change for the game to crash between X2 and X3.
Crash is one of the games which in my opinion require the most attention and concentration to the able to have a good chance to pocket some money, you know, even more than blackjack. So it weird to me someone would even use the automatic betting feature to play crash  .

What is even the point of setting the automatic cash out at X2 (for example), and then going away and allowing the bot to gamble for you? It is a very quick way to lose money, it would not even take advantage of the rare occasions big multipliers appear. While people managed to cash out at 20x, one is stuck at 2x  .

And I get your point from the perspective of a crane operator, they could certainly have some time to gamble a bit, like other kind of workers, but crash is to be reserved for leisure time at home, regardless of what kind of job one has, it is just too focus demanding...

You see then, any game require focus. Maybe not a 100% of the time, but at least monitoring for a while what is going on is a must. If a person places a bet, closes browser tab and start working or doing something else, then such strategy will lead to loosing. It shows that a persons cares little about the game, about the result. I find it hard to do one thing at work, and parallel do something completely different. Gambling and working are two processes that hard to combine. For example like reading and cooking. You will get the dish done, but probably forget what you have read. I accept the fact that someone manages to work and gamble parallel, but I think it does not worth spending time like that. You wont win much, you wont get fun and excitement during that gambling period.

[Slow death]

You see then, any game require focus. Maybe not a 100% of the time, but at least monitoring for a while what is going on is a must. If a person places a bet, closes browser tab and start working or doing something else, then such strategy will lead to loosing. It shows that a persons cares little about the game, about the result. I find it hard to do one thing at work, and parallel do something completely different. Gambling and working are two processes that hard to combine. For example like reading and cooking. You will get the dish done, but probably forget what you have read. I accept the fact that someone manages to work and gamble parallel, but I think it does not worth spending time like that. You wont win much, you wont get fun and excitement during that gambling period.

In my country I saw people placing sports bets while they were at work, I asked them how they do it and they told me that when they are at work they log into their work computer during their lunch break, analyze the games and place sports bets and When they leave work and return home they just wait for the games to start, because according to them, the number of games they put in their multibet is very large, so they need to take a lot of time to analyze each team and they need to watch videos of each team playing, so it's easier for them to use the internet at work and watch lots of videos of each team's games, so they spend many days watching videos of each team's games and watch them at work

I asked them why they don't use the internet on their cell phone or at home, and they told me that they don't want to give up their internet on their cell phone and computer, so they use it at work, which is much faster and the funniest thing is that they they made multibet bets of 500.00 odds and won a lot of money, but even so they didn't want to pay for good quality internet, I confess that I couldn't stop being shocked, for me it was something that I hardly understood, they downloaded heavy games out of enthusiasm, I'm talking about computer video games, they analyzed the games and placed sports bets and won a lot of money but they still didn't put fast internet in their homes.

My opinion was that they behaved like people who liked to suck everything from the company, they didn't care if it harmed the company, they just cared about themselves, it's funny that they have good salaries, but they still have that behavior. people like free things. Many people gamble at their jobs because they take advantage of their job's internet because this way they save money, the money they would use to pay for internet, they will use to go to restaurants and beaches.

[Mahanton]

if i had an employee like that who played dominoes or other casino games during working hours, i would fire him without a second thought, even when he was the head of the household who needed money. because an employee like that has less focus and motivation to work, he just does what is given to him without thinking about how he can develop, either in that company or elsewhere. why employ someone like that, when he doesn't know his responsibilities.

I support your principle, gambling is not wrong as long as you control it well, know when to have fun and know when to work. Working can provide income, and from this income it can provide pleasure, this can only be achieved if someone can focus. It is important to be a responsible gambler, who can manage his time well, so that he doesn't make fatal mistakes such as gambling during working hours. No one can tolerate this, all company bosses will certainly take a firm stance by firing them if they are caught gambling during working hours.

I really agree with that, why keep retain workers who can't be responsible, gambling is not wrong, sometimes people are the ones who make mistakes using it. They don't know the place and don't know the time when we are working we have to be responsible to continue doing our work and not steal time to gamble because it reflects an unprofessional attitude at work, you need to know that work requires focus and not just thinking about your own pleasure just to achieve satisfaction. Moreover, gambling at work is not so fun if you are always being watched by someone and makes you restless, so that's why it's better to just gamble at home.

No boss likes to see their employees gambling, they will definitely be firm and fire them if necessary even though their position is high. Maybe they will be given a warning once but if you repeat it you can be fired with disrespect and without severance pay, therefore if you are an employee and want to keep working so don't do things beyond your limits and avoid things that will be detrimental to yourself, gambling requires money if you lose your job how can you gamble again?

There's the right time for everything and right place on whatever things that you do and since you are at work then it would be just that sensible that you should really be doing working and not gambling.
Simple concept or things to be done but this is where some people do really fail on following so until they do find out that they dont have a job on tomorrows.  
This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are doing and be that mindful about your actions because one mistake could cost your job.
So it would be always best that you should really be mindful about on the actions that you are taking rather than on ending up on regretting for the rest of your life
because of what you did.

[bakasabo]

You see then, any game require focus. Maybe not a 100% of the time, but at least monitoring for a while what is going on is a must. If a person places a bet, closes browser tab and start working or doing something else, then such strategy will lead to loosing. It shows that a persons cares little about the game, about the result. I find it hard to do one thing at work, and parallel do something completely different. Gambling and working are two processes that hard to combine. For example like reading and cooking. You will get the dish done, but probably forget what you have read. I accept the fact that someone manages to work and gamble parallel, but I think it does not worth spending time like that. You wont win much, you wont get fun and excitement during that gambling period.

In my country I saw people placing sports bets while they were at work, I asked them how they do it and they told me that when they are at work they log into their work computer during their lunch break, analyze the games and place sports bets and When they leave work and return home they just wait for the games to start, because according to them, the number of games they put in their multibet is very large, so they need to take a lot of time to analyze each team and they need to watch videos of each team playing, so it's easier for them to use the internet at work and watch lots of videos of each team's games, so they spend many days watching videos of each team's games and watch them at work

I asked them why they don't use the internet on their cell phone or at home, and they told me that they don't want to give up their internet on their cell phone and computer, so they use it at work, which is much faster and the funniest thing is that they they made multibet bets of 500.00 odds and won a lot of money, but even so they didn't want to pay for good quality internet, I confess that I couldn't stop being shocked, for me it was something that I hardly understood, they downloaded heavy games out of enthusiasm, I'm talking about computer video games, they analyzed the games and placed sports bets and won a lot of money but they still didn't put fast internet in their homes.

My opinion was that they behaved like people who liked to suck everything from the company, they didn't care if it harmed the company, they just cared about themselves, it's funny that they have good salaries, but they still have that behavior. people like free things. Many people gamble at their jobs because they take advantage of their job's internet because this way they save money, the money they would use to pay for internet, they will use to go to restaurants and beaches.

I did not see this as a direct problem of gambling, but I see there are problems with employer. Employer is either weak leader, or does not care how his company fixed assets are being used. Limitless internet is good, but employer must monitor what his employees do. I cant imagine what my boss or admin would do if I would start downloading heavy games and movies at work. I would take most of «internet speed» of whole company and my colleagues work would lag.

But on the other hand, if they have dont all the work, why should not they do what they want during free time? Employer might give them more work, so they wont mess around, but they can ask for a raise for that. Like I’ve said, its employers problem in your case. To many employees do the same work probably. He should fire some, increase payment of those who are left and make them work more. That would be more effective.

[nullama]

~snip~
This kind of view is not rare, which is why we do not recommend people to gamble at their job even if they have the time on their hands to do it, as the only thing needed for them to lose their job is for their boss to find out about it.

Besides it makes no sense, the economy in a great deal of countries is not doing well, so we must treasure our jobs and risking them just so we can gamble is a mistake, as we could gamble once we are out of our jobs and obtain the same fun without putting ourselves in danger of being fired.

The thing is that life is for living, and if you simply work and go to sleep every day, and do nothing else then it would be a wasted life.

If you want to gamble, and you can do it at work, then that's a great thing to do. Why waste your personal time when it's possible to use the company time?

[adpinbr]

Sometimes declining some betting activities is not necessary, I believe all dependent on the situation why you are betting. In this case, if you are currently employed, you can decide to go to a casino shop whenever it is right like I said, it’s always good to set a particular amount of betting from your salary so you won’t go above what you have projected, definitely is going to be a problem if you don’t have a budget on your betting activities you end up of using the money for your family, upkeep and groceries to put it away and come back home to face problem with your wife.

[harapan]

I have to say that those who are gambling at work are people who cant manage their time well. Working time should be used wisely, to focus on the work only but I wont deny that I have done it before because I was so bored with what I do in my office. I realize that it is a mistake and I do not do it again till now to avoid something bad with my career. Better to manage our gambling time, gamble when we have free time only, time when we have nothing to do at all. Time is priceless especially when it comes with our family, job, or relationship.

Yeah it's a Good one,and another thing is to set our priorities right, alot of people can't set their priority right,and which is your job,mind you once you lose it you've lost totally even the little funds for gambling won't be coming again.
So whenever we are at work our focus should be on work alone nothing else,cause once your mind is divided anything can happen  and the outcome will be disastrous.imagine working in a clinic where you attend to patient and you're gambling at that same spot what do you think will be the results it's either you loose your stake or lose a life.
So it's not advisable to gamble while at work as you can't serve two masters at a time.

[Hypnosis00]

So it's not advisable to gamble while at work as you can't serve two masters at a time.

Wrong phrase, sorry for that sir.

Working is a good example of serving your master as you are rewarded for your work, you'll never loss since you are not gambling. however, gambling should be treated as a different thing, it's not us serving our master but it's us being serve since we gamble to be entertain and to win, and if we are successful with that, we are feeling fulfill not because we are working to get paid, but we are working on our own using our skills from our money to make money.

[sompitonov]

I have to say that those who are gambling at work are people who cant manage their time well. Working time should be used wisely, to focus on the work only but I wont deny that I have done it before because I was so bored with what I do in my office. I realize that it is a mistake and I do not do it again till now to avoid something bad with my career. Better to manage our gambling time, gamble when we have free time only, time when we have nothing to do at all. Time is priceless especially when it comes with our family, job, or relationship.

Yeah it's a Good one,and another thing is to set our priorities right, alot of people can't set their priority right,and which is your job,mind you once you lose it you've lost totally even the little funds for gambling won't be coming again.
So whenever we are at work our focus should be on work alone nothing else,cause once your mind is divided anything can happen  and the outcome will be disastrous.imagine working in a clinic where you attend to patient and you're gambling at that same spot what do you think will be the results it's either you loose your stake or lose a life.
So it's not advisable to gamble while at work as you can't serve two masters at a time.

When I was a younger gambler, I wanted to do absolutely everything, and thus I tested myself and thought that I was faster than others. With age, my preferences have changed and now I enjoy taking my time and doing everything after carefully thinking it through. I want to say that in my youth I played at work from my phone and I liked it, but now everything has become the opposite, I don’t want to play at work anymore, but I want to be involved in only one thing. I realized that it’s better to play at home so that nothing distracts me. This way I will get more pleasure from the game, moreover, I think that I will not change this opinion. Maybe I have become more sensitive to little things or something else happened to me, I can’t even give a clear answer.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

So it's not advisable to gamble while at work as you can't serve two masters at a time.

Wrong phrase, sorry for that sir.

Working is a good example of serving your master as you are rewarded for your work, you'll never loss since you are not gambling. however, gambling should be treated as a different thing, it's not us serving our master but it's us being serve since we gamble to be entertain and to win, and if we are successful with that, we are feeling fulfill not because we are working to get paid, but we are working on our own using our skills from our money to make money.

Good one, this a very clear and understandable explanation and I completely agree with you, gambling is not we serving a master, but more like the casino serving us indirectly, since when we serve a master, we get paid wages right?, now, what wages does the casino pay us when we play on the casino to show that we are serving them? If not we eventually losing all our money in the long run, that is to show that we are not serving the casino, but since we are the ones paying the casino with our hard earned money, it simply means that the casino is indirectly serving us, and we are the master, since it's we spending the money.

And besides, I feel that that phrase "one can be serve two masters at a time" is completely outdated and shouldn't be used anymore, for this day, we can find a lot of persons doing multiple jobs, and getting paid well, some of us here even have account in other forums where we are also promoting other services through our signature ad space, and still getting paid as we get paid here on bitcointalk, isn't that serving two masters?

The world have changed a lot, and I feel some of this old phrased should be changed as well, since they no longer apply effectively to what the world we live in today has turned into.

[Kristiyana]

So it's not advisable to gamble while at work as you can't serve two masters at a time.

Wrong phrase, sorry for that sir.

Working is a good example of serving your master as you are rewarded for your work, you'll never loss since you are not gambling. however, gambling should be treated as a different thing, it's not us serving our master but it's us being serve since we gamble to be entertain and to win, and if we are successful with that, we are feeling fulfill not because we are working to get paid, but we are working on our own using our skills from our money to make money.

Good one, this a very clear and understandable explanation and I completely agree with you, gambling is not we serving a master, but more like the casino serving us indirectly, since when we serve a master, we get paid wages right?, now, what wages does the casino pay us when we play on the casino to show that we are serving them? If not we eventually losing all our money in the long run, that is to show that we are not serving the casino, but since we are the ones paying the casino with our hard earned money, it simply means that the casino is indirectly serving us, and we are the master, since it's we spending the money.

And besides, I feel that that phrase "one can be serve two masters at a time" is completely outdated and shouldn't be used anymore, for this day, we can find a lot of persons doing multiple jobs, and getting paid well, some of us here even have account in other forums where we are also promoting other services through our signature ad space, and still getting paid as we get paid here on bitcointalk, isn't that serving two masters?

The world have changed a lot, and I feel some of this old phrased should be changed as well, since they no longer apply effectively to what the world we live in today has turned into.

You're right unlike as you said earlier that working is a good example of serving your master as you are rewarded for your work,I think you make a point there, you're not serving any master in gambling instead gamble is the one serving us since we gamble for fun and also for intertainment.but to be realistic gambling when you're at work is not advisable,there are some rules governing most of this companies and one of this rules are: using of cellphone is prohibited, as a worker in such company you have to abide with the rules. that's if you love your job,there are also some people who choose to violate this rules, probably if you're been cought using your cellphone to gamble when you're at work  you will be fired and that is final.

[arjunmujay]

I myself often play the lottery while I'm working. because it doesn't take a lot of time and is serious to bet there. so that the time to work remains effective and you can still place bets. Who knows, if the lottery we choose actually comes out, just think of it as finding money. If you play live casino, it's very difficult because you have a very short time frame while working. Even in between working hours, it feels like it will be very lacking if you play live casino.

[Dewi Aries]

I myself often play the lottery while I'm working. because it doesn't take a lot of time and is serious to bet there. so that the time to work remains effective and you can still place bets. Who knows, if the lottery we choose actually comes out, just think of it as finding money. If you play live casino, it's very difficult because you have a very short time frame while working. Even in between working hours, it feels like it will be very lacking if you play live casino.

For this type of game, it is true that it does not require much time, you just need to log in to one of the sites and put your confidence numbers and then leave and come back after a few hours to see the announcement of which number came out the winner at that time. If you are involved in this type of betting then maybe yes it will not interfere too much with your work time and maybe my advice is in terms of the amount of budget, which is where you are more advised to put the amount that you think you can afford to be responsible for if in the end the number you put is not the number that wins the lottery.

That's right, the problem with why it's forbidden to gamble while you're at work is when you're gambling on live casino bets which means you can't miss a beat and have to stay on screen to monitor and play your bets, such as maybe slot games or other live casino games that always need to be played.
 or other live casino games that always require consideration at any time to make decisions and obviously this will interfere with your focus at work.