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February 17, 2025, 08:51:00 AM
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The situation is still quite awkward for now because although for the second leg Madrid is currently 1 goal ahead on aggregate and will play at the Bernabeu but a 1-goal gap when faced with a big match like this of course the situation will be a little difficult to predict.

Overall Madrid are definitely the favorites for this one but we'll just have to see how the 90 minutes plays out. But if in the end the same situation occurs as seen in the first leg then it is clear that Madrid's advantage will increase because Manchester City are not very good at defense especially in crucial minutes where their focus is always lost. But when Pep is able to minimize this, it is possible that Madrid will actually lose at the Bernabeu.
But my hope is that Ancelotti can regain his best momentum and advance to the next phase.
Considering Madrid managed to win at Ettihad, it would be very unlikely that they would lose at home. Plus, they had a pretty good season so far, I am pretty sure that they are having a much better season than City at this point. Pep is literally hurting his own face every few games, he is mad that his team isn't doing great, and most of the goals they concede are their own mistakes as well, not like some great talent from other side.

So when the next game comes, I am pretty sure that Madrid will easily defeat City and end up getting the victory. Who they will face next stage is more important for them now, it is not going to be easy, but we can see them go all the way to the finals if they keep performing like this as well.

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February 17, 2025, 09:04:09 AM
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The situation is still quite awkward for now because although for the second leg Madrid is currently 1 goal ahead on aggregate and will play at the Bernabeu but a 1-goal gap when faced with a big match like this of course the situation will be a little difficult to predict.

Overall Madrid are definitely the favorites for this one but we'll just have to see how the 90 minutes plays out. But if in the end the same situation occurs as seen in the first leg then it is clear that Madrid's advantage will increase because Manchester City are not very good at defense especially in crucial minutes where their focus is always lost. But when Pep is able to minimize this, it is possible that Madrid will actually lose at the Bernabeu.
But my hope is that Ancelotti can regain his best momentum and advance to the next phase.
Considering Madrid managed to win at Ettihad, it would be very unlikely that they would lose at home. Plus, they had a pretty good season so far, I am pretty sure that they are having a much better season than City at this point. Pep is literally hurting his own face every few games, he is mad that his team isn't doing great, and most of the goals they concede are their own mistakes as well, not like some great talent from other side.

So when the next game comes, I am pretty sure that Madrid will easily defeat City and end up getting the victory. Who they will face next stage is more important for them now, it is not going to be easy, but we can see them go all the way to the finals if they keep performing like this as well.
If they play like the first leg then it will most likely be something for Real Madrid, but what must be underlined is whether Man City can turn things around with a large enough aggregate for away goals, because Real Madrid will play as hosts with very big support in the match, it is too early to talk about being in the final if Real Madrid's game always changes maybe everyone hopes they can turn things around and find their rhythm like last season with a lot of additional ammunition for players in the upcoming transfer market, hopefully Real Madrid under Carlo Ancelotti can concoct the best tactics possible.
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February 17, 2025, 09:24:04 AM
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Looking at the odds market from Duelbits.
Is it possible that Manchester City can qualify by any means? The odds are a tantalizing 5.00 but the risk of losing is great because we know Real Madrid is not an easy opponent.




Looking at the options given by bookmakers like the picture I gave, it is likely that Man City will not be able to qualify in any way. I predict that Man City will not score over 1.5 and Madrid will most likely only score 2 goals. So I think this match could end with a 2-1 win for Madrid. While the aggregate score Madrid is far superior. On the one hand Man City playing at home is unable to maintain its defense and now has to play away which makes City even less confident. If anyone wants to bet on Man City qualifying for the next round, it will be a big risk and even luck will not come to Man City.
Don't always get deceived by the bookmakers odd. They're not always accurate and in the first leg, the bookies made City the favorite to win the match. However, I am not surprised at such odd favouring Madrid, because there's no magic that City will perform in order for them to win and qualify to the next round. Madrid is not a club that will easily be defeated at this point in time.

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February 17, 2025, 10:25:46 AM
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Real Madrid may be more motivated to win because the match will be held in Bernabeu. But it doesn't remove totally the chance for Man City to win the match. If Man City can score a quick goal in the first leg of the match, I'm sure it will be an advantage for Man City. But if Real Madrid scores first, I doubt that Man City will have a chance to win the match.

Madrid's young defender Asencio was able to perform excellently in the  first leg match. Another important thing is that two important defenders of Madrid's squad, David alaba and rudiger, have returned to the squad. And if these two defenders are fully fit, then it will be very difficult for Manchester City to break  down madrid's defense. Madrid's defense was relatively weak in the first match. Even then  Manchester city failed to win. It seems unlikely that City will win if Madrid's defense is strong at the moment.
We certainly saw a good performance from Real Madrid in the first leg match, especially after the half time. In the second half, Real Madrid not only attacked but they were also active in their defense. The defensive midfield did well in the second half which is why Real Madrid was successful in attack against Manchester City. Since Real Madrid beat Manchester City in the first leg match, I think the second leg match will definitely not be too difficult for Real Madrid as the second leg match will be played at Real Madrid's home ground. Since the main defenders are starting to come back from injury, if all the defenders are ready to play very quickly, then this Real Madrid team will be a formidable team and it will be difficult for any team to beat this team.
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February 17, 2025, 10:34:20 AM
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I want to believe that you have very little knowledge about Omar Marmoush because of you do, you'll not be discussing about all the statistics you mentioned and base your judgement on them. If you watched Manchester City league game against Newcastle on Saturday afternoon, you should know know of a player who scored a hattrick in the space of 14 minutes. I'm not doubting your opinion that Real Madrid is the most successful club in the UEFA Champions League history but I disagree with you when you say that Real Madrid can't be beaten at home by Manchester City.
Anything can still happen in the Real Madrid vs Manchester City match, but we also need to see that in football the combination of players in a team is always needed more than just relying on one player. And in the Champions League the tension of the competition is always different from that in the domestic league and Newcastle's level of strength is also not the same as Real Madrid's strength this season. So we should not judge the same on that even though I was also quite impressed with the three goals that Omar Marmoush was able to score at home yesterday against Newcastle.
So you still have faith in  Manchester City's team to  be able to overturn a first leg defeat in the hands of real Madrid at ethiad to be able to win at Santiago bernabéu lol you are funny you know. How do you think it's possible? Some people might think with their outstanding performance against Newcastle that they can be able to spring forth a surprise in the UCL but the level of intensity of the Champions League is far more different from the domestic league and I don't think any miracle can happen.
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February 17, 2025, 10:41:32 AM
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Real Madrid may be more motivated to win because the match will be held in Bernabeu. But it doesn't remove totally the chance for Man City to win the match. If Man City can score a quick goal in the first leg of the match, I'm sure it will be an advantage for Man City. But if Real Madrid scores first, I doubt that Man City will have a chance to win the match.

Madrid's young defender Asencio was able to perform excellently in the  first leg match. Another important thing is that two important defenders of Madrid's squad, David alaba and rudiger, have returned to the squad. And if these two defenders are fully fit, then it will be very difficult for Manchester City to break  down madrid's defense. Madrid's defense was relatively weak in the first match. Even then  Manchester city failed to win. It seems unlikely that City will win if Madrid's defense is strong at the moment.
If both teams are at their maximum performance then it is actually still very difficult to determine which team will be superior. It doesn't matter where the match takes place. The problem is that sometimes we still have doubts about the performance of these two teams. Because sometimes both of them can't play in their respective performances. Real Madrid may already have a good midfield and front line. But actually doubts still exist in their back line. And yes, if Real Madrid are also able to improve their back line then I personally am also very confident that Real Madrid will probably still be the favorites, especially as they are the hosts. But the problem is that Real Madrid defenders who have returned from injury are not necessarily back to their best performance again. because usually it always takes time for players who recover from injury to be able to return to their best performance again. I expect a tough match. And I'll probably just hope both teams score. And I also hope there are lots of goals in this match.

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February 17, 2025, 11:49:54 AM
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Given Manchester City’s inconsistent performances this season, it will be unwise to bank on them to overcome the scoreline at the Santiago Bernabéu. Check the odds for the teams to qualify, you would see clearly that Real Madrid is the favourite with just 1.8 odds irrespective of the fact that the scoreline from the first leg is not much and Madrid has a slim lead.
I will even say that it will be better to not even gamble or place a bet on any of these teams than to bank on either of them, to me at this point I don't even want to check the statistical information and see it as enough to judge if they are going to wn or not rather I will prefer to say that I will bet on corners, cards and other things than trying to predict an outright winner.
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February 17, 2025, 12:14:23 PM
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So you still have faith in  Manchester City's team to  be able to overturn a first leg defeat in the hands of real Madrid at ethiad to be able to win at Santiago bernabéu lol you are funny you know. How do you think it's possible? Some people might think with their outstanding performance against Newcastle that they can be able to spring forth a surprise in the UCL but the level of intensity of the Champions League is far more different from the domestic league and I don't think any miracle can happen.
Why not? In football anything can happen, and we can't say it's impossible, even though the situation is closer to the impossible. But once again, we have to remember that this is football and in football anything can happen.
Do you remember when big clubs could turn things around when everyone said it was impossible. For example, when Real Madrid turned things around last season, there was Barcelona when they faced Paris Saint Germain and many others.
It's impossible in people's minds, but in football something like that is something that can very well happen.

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February 17, 2025, 12:19:29 PM
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I want to believe that you have very little knowledge about Omar Marmoush because of you do, you'll not be discussing about all the statistics you mentioned and base your judgement on them. If you watched Manchester City league game against Newcastle on Saturday afternoon, you should know know of a player who scored a hattrick in the space of 14 minutes. I'm not doubting your opinion that Real Madrid is the most successful club in the UEFA Champions League history but I disagree with you when you say that Real Madrid can't be beaten at home by Manchester City.
Anything can still happen in the Real Madrid vs Manchester City match, but we also need to see that in football the combination of players in a team is always needed more than just relying on one player. And in the Champions League the tension of the competition is always different from that in the domestic league and Newcastle's level of strength is also not the same as Real Madrid's strength this season. So we should not judge the same on that even though I was also quite impressed with the three goals that Omar Marmoush was able to score at home yesterday against Newcastle.
So you still have faith in  Manchester City's team to  be able to overturn a first leg defeat in the hands of real Madrid at ethiad to be able to win at Santiago bernabéu lol you are funny you know. How do you think it's possible? Some people might think with their outstanding performance against Newcastle that they can be able to spring forth a surprise in the UCL but the level of intensity of the Champions League is far more different from the domestic league and I don't think any miracle can happen.


You are absolutely right Manchester city wining Real Madrid at this stage look impossible merely looking or judging because Real Madrid is not just an ordinary team especially when it comes to champions league and in a critical moment like this and considering the fact that Manchester city is not even in there prime again. There's this spirit that always follow or back Real Madrid in champions league and it is not just a spirit but also an experience, Real Madrid has champions league experience to the point that even if they are not inform you can not beat them anyhow, it is as if they are born with champions league though this is football anything is possible but on a normal Manchester city can not beat them at this stage.











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February 17, 2025, 12:46:05 PM
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So you still have faith in  Manchester City's team to  be able to overturn a first leg defeat in the hands of real Madrid at ethiad to be able to win at Santiago bernabéu lol you are funny you know. How do you think it's possible? Some people might think with their outstanding performance against Newcastle that they can be able to spring forth a surprise in the UCL but the level of intensity of the Champions League is far more different from the domestic league and I don't think any miracle can happen.
Why not? In football anything can happen, and we can't say it's impossible, even though the situation is closer to the impossible. But once again, we have to remember that this is football and in football anything can happen.
Do you remember when big clubs could turn things around when everyone said it was impossible. For example, when Real Madrid turned things around last season, there was Barcelona when they faced Paris Saint Germain and many others.
It's impossible in people's minds, but in football something like that is something that can very well happen.
Football is so unpredictable, Yes Manchester city is going to Santiago this time but that doesn't change anything, even though home advantage counts most times in football it doesn't guarantee winning. If Manchester City can boast their confidence ahead of this match they should see an easy win even though the need two goals to win the second leg and proceed to the knockout stage.

I know Madrid will fight hard to defend the aggregate they have already but if Manchester City is creative enough for with their attacks and the are able to hold their game till the last minute they should come up with a possible win. I will love to see Manchester proceeded to the next round.

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February 17, 2025, 02:07:48 PM
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Why not? In football anything can happen, and we can't say it's impossible, even though the situation is closer to the impossible. But once again, we have to remember that this is football and in football anything can happen.
Do you remember when big clubs could turn things around when everyone said it was impossible. For example, when Real Madrid turned things around last season, there was Barcelona when they faced Paris Saint Germain and many others.
It's impossible in people's minds, but in football something like that is something that can very well happen.
Football is so unpredictable, Yes Manchester city is going to Santiago this time but that doesn't change anything, even though home advantage counts most times in football it doesn't guarantee winning. If Manchester City can boast their confidence ahead of this match they should see an easy win even though the need two goals to win the second leg and proceed to the knockout stage.

I know Madrid will fight hard to defend the aggregate they have already but if Manchester City is creative enough for with their attacks and the are able to hold their game till the last minute they should come up with a possible win. I will love to see Manchester proceeded to the next round.

In fact, I see that Manchester City will probably play freely, because they have no other choice but to win the match with a deficit of 2 goals to qualify, or at least they have to win with a difference of 1 goal to take the game to extra time and penalties. On the other hand, I also see that if Real Madrid in this match plays under pressure or plays with a burden, then that can be utilized by Manchester City. Although Real Madrid is a club with good mentality, it can happen in a match.

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February 17, 2025, 02:21:51 PM
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Real Madrid may be more motivated to win because the match will be held in Bernabeu. But it doesn't remove totally the chance for Man City to win the match. If Man City can score a quick goal in the first leg of the match, I'm sure it will be an advantage for Man City. But if Real Madrid scores first, I doubt that Man City will have a chance to win the match.
Madrid's young defender Asencio was able to perform excellently in the  first leg match. Another important thing is that two important defenders of Madrid's squad, David alaba and rudiger, have returned to the squad. And if these two defenders are fully fit, then it will be very difficult for Manchester City to break  down madrid's defense. Madrid's defense was relatively weak in the first match. Even then  Manchester city failed to win. It seems unlikely that City will win if Madrid's defense is strong at the moment.
Man City come to Santiago Bernabeu with a mission to win, that is the most important thing that Real Madrid must be wary of. They must prevent even the slightest mistake to keep their goal clean sheet, a strong defense is the main key for Madrid to secure a ticket to the last 16. But if you look at Man City performance when they beat Newcastle, it is very difficult for Madrid to prevent City players from scoring. At least they have to maintain their best performance so that Man City does not score more than one goal.

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February 17, 2025, 03:09:03 PM
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In fact, I see that Manchester City will probably play freely, because they have no other choice but to win the match with a deficit of 2 goals to qualify, or at least they have to win with a difference of 1 goal to take the game to extra time and penalties. On the other hand, I also see that if Real Madrid in this match plays under pressure or plays with a burden, then that can be utilized by Manchester City. Although Real Madrid is a club with good mentality, it can happen in a match.

The game is going to be the best game for this season in the champions league it might be better than the finals as I don't see any other match that'll live up to the hype of this game. Any club that wins in this game progresses to the next stage and the goals don't have to be too much as the only goal that's giving Manchester city a disadvantage is just 1 goal but Pep Guardiola is capable of turning things around with his technical genius system. I hope his formation is strong and doesn't give Real Madrid the privilege to embrace him as I'm suspecting, that's what Real Madrid players are playing on doing since the game is in their home stadium.

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February 17, 2025, 03:19:31 PM
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Madrid's young defender Asencio was able to perform excellently in the  first leg match. Another important thing is that two important defenders of Madrid's squad, David alaba and rudiger, have returned to the squad. And if these two defenders are fully fit, then it will be very difficult for Manchester City to break  down madrid's defense. Madrid's defense was relatively weak in the first match. Even then  Manchester city failed to win. It seems unlikely that City will win if Madrid's defense is strong at the moment.
Alaba and Rudiger are very good central defenders but their fitness after injuries is unknown and perhaps is not good enough. Defensive players in the first leg plaed well and Ancelotti doesn't have big reasons to change the squad. Alaba and Rudiger can be called for the match but will start it on bench and Ancelotti will choose right moment to use them as their experience can help Real Madrid.

Manchester City have nothing to lose and even they know danger from Real Madrid, they will have to play attacking in Bernabeu. With players like Mbappe, Vinicius and Rodrgyo, Real Madrid can play counter attacking very dangerously in Bernabeu stadium.

Alaba and Rudiger are experienced defenders. And in these high-voltage matches, it is very important to have experienced players in the squad. Experienced players can change the scenario of the match at any time. Alaba and Rudiger are likely to be in the squad even if they are not fully fit. Because Ancelotti has no better option than this. Moreover  in the second leg match, Madrid may try to play defensively and try to draw the match. Only if they can draw the match, Real Madrid can qualify for the next round. If Madrid plays defensively, it will be more difficult for Manchester City to break down Madrid's defense.

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February 17, 2025, 03:26:03 PM
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In fact, I see that Manchester City will probably play freely, because they have no other choice but to win the match with a deficit of 2 goals to qualify, or at least they have to win with a difference of 1 goal to take the game to extra time and penalties. On the other hand, I also see that if Real Madrid in this match plays under pressure or plays with a burden, then that can be utilized by Manchester City. Although Real Madrid is a club with good mentality, it can happen in a match.
The game will surely be interesting just as the first leg was, both team still wants to qualify but only one can, that will make them to play at their highest and bring out the best in them. It won't be easy for both teams as they will keep on attacking each other looking for loopholes they can exploit. In my opinion I still see a 50 50 match at the Santiago stadium irrespective of the result at Etihad last week.

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February 17, 2025, 03:27:13 PM
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Real Madrid may be more motivated to win because the match will be held in Bernabeu. But it doesn't remove totally the chance for Man City to win the match. If Man City can score a quick goal in the first leg of the match, I'm sure it will be an advantage for Man City. But if Real Madrid scores first, I doubt that Man City will have a chance to win the match.
Madrid's young defender Asencio was able to perform excellently in the  first leg match. Another important thing is that two important defenders of Madrid's squad, David alaba and rudiger, have returned to the squad. And if these two defenders are fully fit, then it will be very difficult for Manchester City to break  down madrid's defense. Madrid's defense was relatively weak in the first match. Even then  Manchester city failed to win. It seems unlikely that City will win if Madrid's defense is strong at the moment.
Man City come to Santiago Bernabeu with a mission to win, that is the most important thing that Real Madrid must be wary of. They must prevent even the slightest mistake to keep their goal clean sheet, a strong defense is the main key for Madrid to secure a ticket to the last 16. But if you look at Man City performance when they beat Newcastle, it is very difficult for Madrid to prevent City players from scoring. At least they have to maintain their best performance so that Man City does not score more than one goal.
Real Madrid is still worried about the many injured players, especially since their defense line is currently not occupied by the main players due to injury, the narrow victory at Man City's home last week is a situation that can be said to be quite good for Real Madrid because they will play at home with full confidence without any doubt, but in my opinion with this situation I think Real Madrid must be vigilant because Man City has performed brilliantly in the last match and what needs to be considered is Marmoush, he has scored a goal and is not playing around, his hat trick is extraordinary for this meeting, Real Madrid who are frustrated will lose some players I think they cannot defend optimally what they need to pursue is goals and goals to close the possibility for Man City to be able to get through this phase and slump.

Haaland in yesterday's match was sidelined in the second half, the current situation is that there is no news about him and if he is absent from this match then Real Madrid's chances are higher because in the first half Haaland was quite troublesome for Real Madrid's defense with the two goals he managed to score, and in my opinion this meeting will be fierce again and my prediction is a draw in this match considering that both teams are quite good overall and in my opinion Real Madrid's percentage to eliminate Man City is higher.
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February 17, 2025, 03:30:13 PM
 #13917

Don't always get deceived by the bookmakers odd. They're not always accurate and in the first leg, the bookies made City the favorite to win the match. However, I am not surprised at such odd favouring Madrid, because there's no magic that City will perform in order for them to win and qualify to the next round. Madrid is not a club that will easily be defeated at this point in time.
That is clearly true because in the Champions League sometimes many people can get caught up in bookies' predictions so we don't have to always rely on bookies' predictions, especially for teams like Real Madrid who often look strong in the Champions League. The second leg is a decisive match to qualify for the next round so Real Madrid will definitely have a strategy that is quite effective in being able to win again at home. But I also don't underestimate Manchester City in matters like this because there will certainly be fierce resistance again.

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February 17, 2025, 03:35:42 PM
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Anything can still happen in the Real Madrid vs Manchester City match, but we also need to see that in football the combination of players in a team is always needed more than just relying on one player. And in the Champions League the tension of the competition is always different from that in the domestic league and Newcastle's level of strength is also not the same as Real Madrid's strength this season. So we should not judge the same on that even though I was also quite impressed with the three goals that Omar Marmoush was able to score at home yesterday against Newcastle.
So you still have faith in  Manchester City's team to  be able to overturn a first leg defeat in the hands of real Madrid at ethiad to be able to win at Santiago bernabéu lol you are funny you know. How do you think it's possible? Some people might think with their outstanding performance against Newcastle that they can be able to spring forth a surprise in the UCL but the level of intensity of the Champions League is far more different from the domestic league and I don't think any miracle can happen.
One goal deficit is not big deal while two quality teams are going to face each other in second leg with Real Madrid injuries concerns are increasing which are surely problem for them from start of this season Manchester City is doing good even they are not good on road but still they are capable of having good results.

Their last three defeats in away games are giving view about their chances but recently Omar Marmoush performance give good confidence about their chances for having win in this second leg game soccer is 11 player game one player is not capable of changing things, but this match is going to be interesting.
Both are on same level with both are also had equal chance of win but for me most chances this match is going to be ended with draw/real because they are better team at this time.

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February 17, 2025, 03:42:05 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2025, 04:44:15 PM by Swordsoffreedom
 #13919

Don't always get deceived by the bookmakers odd. They're not always accurate and in the first leg, the bookies made City the favorite to win the match. However, I am not surprised at such odd favouring Madrid, because there's no magic that City will perform in order for them to win and qualify to the next round. Madrid is not a club that will easily be defeated at this point in time.
That is clearly true because in the Champions League sometimes many people can get caught up in bookies' predictions so we don't have to always rely on bookies' predictions, especially for teams like Real Madrid who often look strong in the Champions League. The second leg is a decisive match to qualify for the next round so Real Madrid will definitely have a strategy that is quite effective in being able to win again at home. But I also don't underestimate Manchester City in matters like this because there will certainly be fierce resistance again.

As Manchester city is in the current situation, I don't  think City will be able to win at the Bernabeu. Manchester City's defeat in the home match was also completely unexpected. Manchester city conceded two goals in a row in the last minute and lost the match. It is impossible to win against an experienced team like Madrid with such a performance.

Madrid's coach Ancelotti is experienced. Every  player in the squad is talented. Ancelotti has been able to strengthen the bonding between the players. So Madrid is now able to win against any  opponent. Since Madrid has already won the first leg .

Madrid's players will not be under much pressure in the second leg match. The match will be drawn or Madrid will win. I don't think city will win.

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February 17, 2025, 03:50:25 PM
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One goal deficit is not big deal while two quality teams are going to face each other in second leg with Real Madrid injuries concerns are increasing which are surely problem for them from start of this season Manchester City is doing good even they are not good on road but still they are capable of having good results.

Their last three defeats in away games are giving view about their chances but recently Omar Marmoush performance give good confidence about their chances for having win in this second leg game soccer is 11 player game one player is not capable of changing things, but this match is going to be interesting.
Both are on same level with both are also had equal chance of win but for me most chances this match is going to be ended with draw/real because they are better team at this time.

Definitely with the new phase of the champions league abolishing the away goal advantage the one deficit is something that we have seen recently been overturn by various clubs, the face of the game can easily change in a space of few minutes, this is the champions league knockout stages were we have seen deficit as high as 4 goals been overturned so this ain’t something to actually get carried about because the game is still on.

But when looking at overturning a first leg defeat we need to analyze the team which is been played against and the ground where the game is been played, most of the times the game is usually been won or overturned when the it is home team in the second leg that losses the first leg. But this time around why everyone is actually supporting Real Madrid is because they are the number one team that overturns result in the UCL and coming to the Bernabeu with a goal deficit is something that no opponent will want. Right now it will be too much for Manchester City to handle this situation even though Madrid are simply not in the best of shapes right now

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