Whattomine - profitability website with basic json.

[fredeq]

@HR Tell me about it.
Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card.

[HR]

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card.

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.

[fredeq]

So its good when its wrong? Hilarious Coins these days never cease to amaze me.

[HR]

So its good when its wrong? Hilarious Coins these days never cease to amaze me.

Yeah, the deeper I scratch below the surface, the more I find myself asking myself why nobody else has done this type of analysis and come across these issues, and/or asking myself if I'm crazy, or both.

However, it's most likely a case of those "in the know" using their information to their advantage, and the lemmings doing what they do best, being lemmings.

My goal is to sort out which coins are profitable, have decent prospects for long term adoption, and are honest (perhaps with the latter being the key variable for all the rest). That's not something I'll be getting done overnight though.  

Hopefully we'll find some like thinking folks willing to chip in.


I just took a quick look (about half an hour) at the EAC block discovery numbers, and, while only ~84% of expected blocks have been found lifetime, they're right on the nose over the last 90 days, and since that's basically the time frame we're interested in since the advent of ASIC, we can say that, in the case of EAC, there has been no slowdown in block discovery as ASIC mining has increased. http://earthchain.info/chain/EarthCoin

Got to look at more scrypt coins this weekend, and more coins using DigiShield (got to make up that list first . . .).

[HR]

LTC results:


Actual block discovery is running at 93.5% of it's lifetime theoretical block discovery scheduling.

Last 90 days block discovery is running at 97.8% of theoretical.

Looks like the advent of ASIC has no impact at all on LTC.


Add: Is this typical? Someone who solicits help to research the LTC blockchain (in the technical support section of LiteCoinTalk.org no less) and gets no response from anyone? https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19758.msg171038#msg171038

And I thought we had left the dark ages behind long ago and that now we were in the "information age"!!!  

[HR]

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card.

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.

24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .



BTW, looks like there are some serious types over on the MyriadCoin thread. Here's an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.msg6976890;topicseen#msg6976890  But don't believe a low hashrate, low profitabilty coin when they try to tell you this is the problem behind their block discovery issue! (Remember, MYR block discovery is running clean and smooth, at almost 98%, lifetime, of projected. I point this out not to link it in any way to the DigiShield issue, but rather to call attention to the serious analysis going on over on that thread regarding another multipool/ASIC issue that should be of concern to all scrypt and SHA256D coins, and those that include those algos . . . for anyone who's technically inclined - not all is lost in this new information age! )

[fredeq]

@HR I will check your posts when I have some free time tomorrow. Finished major update today.

Added volume filtering. You can choose from 0.1; 0.5; 1; 5; 10; 50; and 100 thresholds. Have a nice weekend

[HR]

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card.

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.

24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .

Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl 48 hour results

671 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 10 MH/s (adjusted, real, groestl hashrate)

383 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 17.5 MH/s (over reported hashrate)

It's not quite a 2x hashrate over reporting. I calculate that it is closer to 1.75, which is to say, there is a 75% over reporting of the equivalent groestl hashrate. Another way of looking at it is with a scrypt equivalent hashrate, which would be ~1,100 kH/s, or a ~3,300 kH/s X11 equivalent, or a ~500 kH/s scrypt-n giving you a .00229 BTC daily yield. The comparison coins I've mined with same machines/clones with exact same configurations are: GroestCoin, DiamondCoin, DarkCoin, VertCoin, ExeCoin, and DOGE (although DOGE is archive data since I haven't mined it for some time now).


The P2P pool took 36 hours to fully ramp up, so those results will be delayed once again.


And I've now got another “mirror” machine on Myriad-Qubit(MYR) Qubit.


Hope this information is useful.

[Beave162]

Really is by far the best profitability site out there. The volume filter is yet another great option (although it doesn't really benefit YAC at the moment ;P).

Any chance you could add CACHeCoin? It is currently at NFactor 13.

Block explorer: http://www.coincrawler.de/cach/

bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389.0

Thanks so much fredeq.

[HR]

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card.

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.

24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .

Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl 48 hour results

671 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 10 MH/s (adjusted, real, groestl hashrate)

383 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 17.5 MH/s (over reported hashrate)

It's not quite a 2x hashrate over reporting. I calculate that it is closer to 1.75, which is to say, there is a 75% over reporting of the equivalent groestl hashrate. Another way of looking at it is with a scrypt equivalent hashrate, which would be ~1,100 kH/s, or a ~3,300 kH/s X11 equivalent, or a ~500 kH/s scrypt-n giving you a .00229 BTC daily yield. The comparison coins I've mined with same machines/clones with exact same configurations are: GroestCoin, DiamondCoin, DarkCoin, VertCoin, ExeCoin, and DOGE (although DOGE is archive data since I haven't mined it for some time now).


The P2P pool took 36 hours to fully ramp up, so those results will be delayed once again.


And I've now got another “mirror” machine on Myriad-Qubit(MYR) Qubit.


Hope this information is useful.

The Myriadcoin Qubit total 24 hour gross payout before 1% pool fee was 680 coins at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent (in this case, the Qubit hashrate was about 55% of the groestl 'benchmark'). The block find percentage over this time frame was 101.85%

On the side by side mirror machine for Myriad-Groestl over the same time period the gross payout was 670 at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent. The block find percentage over this time frame was 114.64%

Why would anyone mine Qubit? The energy consumption is only about 7% more than Groestl, but does that justify just a few more coins? The machine is worked quite a bit harder than what you would expect from only a 7% increase in power use however. Many people have commented that with Groestl you can play a game while mining, and my testing shows that's not possible with Qubit. So with a lot lighter load on the machine, and lower energy costs as well, Groestl looks to be the clear winner, yet again.

P2P pool mining is by far and away the big winner here. THIS IS THE FIRST P2P POOL I HAVE LIKED!!! 24 hour payouts are now averaging 890 coins (at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent).

So the no-brainer here is to set everything on the Myriad-Groestl P2P using the traditional pool as a failover. I'm going to keep things evenly divided for another few days testing before going all in though.


(I'm not even going to bother testing Skein as I've read that same machine, same config results yield little over half what Groestl produces, and my math based on simple division of theoretical coins paid out daily by the network hashrate bears that out - not worth the time.)


BTW, anyone notice that DGB is still averaging less than 200 blocks a day. In fact, less than 100 blocks in the last 24 hours. They're beginning to recognize the issue, but they're still trying to convince us that it's due to multipool attacks.

[fredeq]

Good to know that numbers are fine and Myriad block find percentage is ok too. Will look at cache later.

[fredeq]

Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5

[corsaro]

Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5

kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.

[fredeq]

Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5

kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.

Thank you for reporting.

Rabbit explorer is stuck on block from 3am. Not sure whats wrong with USDE, but you are right - its not updating. Taking both coins off the list. Will resolve later when I have more time.

Edit: Fixed USDE. Not sure anyone will ever fix rabbitcoin explorer. If you would like to calculate rewards for it, please navigate to single page and input correct difficulty.

[corsaro]

Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5

kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.

Thank you for reporting.

Rabbit explorer is stuck on block from 3am. Not sure whats wrong with USDE, but you are right - its not updating. Taking both coins off the list. Will resolve later when I have more time.

Edit: Fixed USDE. Not sure anyone will ever fix rabbitcoin explorer. If you would like to calculate rewards for it, please navigate to single page and input correct difficulty.

thanks

[ivanlabrie]

Hey fredeq, you should consider adding cryptonote coins...whatmine sucks brah.

[bitcoincal]

Nice website

[fredeq]

@ivanlabrie Seems doable as they are on supported exchanges. Will look into it, attending a wedding this weekend though. Maybe I should switch X13 form to cryptonight... tired of those 7days PoW coins.

@bitcoincal Thanks

[mrcashking]

Hi, I would like to request WKC WankCoin to be added. It's sha-256,  WankCoin is a gold mine. It's a coin that already has a use.  And Is being used for ecommerce right now.  They even have a commercial on youtube. Currently only a month old. and already being used for e-commerce can't really say that about many other coins that are offered. It will take off once a big exchange picks it up. Currently only on allcoin.com


http://www.WankCoin.com
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625934.0

[fredeq]

@mrcashking I need it to be on at least one supported exchange. Bittrex should be the easiest.

Added Razorcoin(RZR) Scrypt, Cachecoin(CACH) Chacha13:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/96-rzr-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/97-cach-chacha-nf13