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[dga]

This is bullshit.  Hardfork this and fix this before people start abandoning this coin.  I'm ready to dump all my coins and move on and I'm not alone.  A closed source miner kept private getting a majority of all the coins.  Come on.

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7320842#msg7320842

I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

Two thoughts:

(a)  I think we should be careful about letting one person's claims of mining wreak havoc with the coin.   I can tell you with great certainty that neither Christian or anyone else GPU-mined *all* the coins yesterday.  At 1.3mh, 100 instances on EC2 yielded about 1300 BBR yesterday while the diff was under 140.

The diff is too high now, but I had 100 instances running for about 24 hours.  It cost me about $750.  I sold 650 BBR at .002 to cover the cost and am sitting on the rest.  If you'd like to buy them, they're listed for .004...  

Code:

Sell	0.004	587.72112	2.35088448	2014-06-17 10:10:26	Cancel

I know from watching the diff very carefully that I'm not the only one who does this -- the diff and price are in lock-step too closely.  I realize it may not be popular to cloud mine, but I'm not going to be apologetic about not asking my family if they mind me putting a datacenter in the basement.

(b)  Christian has an offer open to release his miner if there's a stratum-compatible way for him to get ccminer working.

I'll contribute 100 BBR to the bounty for someone getting stratum working (pool + miner integrated).  I'm planning on working towards that, but I only have a certain amount of time I can spend on crypto each day, and I have some things I want to fix with simpleminer first.  If someone else jumps on it and gets stratum working first, that would be awesome -- I promise, you won't be stepping on my toes at all.  I'd much rather play with optimizing the miner than implementing json rpc.

The question seems to be if it's better to have GPU miner than a hardfork and the associated uncertainty (will someone make another GPU miner after the hardfork?  etc.)

[cbuchner1]

I think so far no-one has successfully hard-forked a cryptonote coin (the Mountcoin devs tried and that essentially burned the coin). Also I've developed GPU miners for coins that have originally been introduced as "CPU only", "GPU and ASIC resistant". So you might not want to try an arms race.

[shojayxt]

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

I am actually surprised that not more people have optimized the miner and created GPU versions. It's a basic algorithm, much easier than CryptoNite. It's not actually hard to port to GPU.

I'm willing to provide a GPU version in ccMiner if we can get some stratum support in the pools.

But still that will exclude all the AMD folks, as ccMiner is CUDA only. Then all the AMD fanboys will cry "foul play!"

It doesn't look like anybody is going to abandon this coin. The developer is very active,  kind people like dga are contributing to simpleminer and a GUI wallet is in the works. The price has tripled already and investors seem to like the coin.

Christian

I know, I like the coin too.  But hearing that a closed source miner is getting 5000 -7000 coins a day is a little unsettling when you might have coins on an exchange.  You never know when you might get dumped on.  Please don't take my concerns as an indictment against you.  I just think things are very lopsided right now with regards to mining this coin.

[Anotheranonlol]

There is no big buy wall support here..Price will down to 130K I think...

Are kidding me?

0.00160000   24201.54008983   38.72246414

How big do you want?  

That wall could be eaten any time. Yesterday 43 BTC buy wall at 0.002+ was destroyed in a single sale and i guess the dumper is probably Christian. His team is mining roughly 50% of newly minted BBR each day with his private GPU mining script. If he is happy to dump at 0.002, there is a chance he will continue to dump at 0.0016. He will keep doing so as long as he still make profit.

I strongly believe it was fake sell. There was a discussion about testing the buywall in Poloniex trollbox and a guy named "Monero" announced he will do it. Next minute it was sold. Then he anounced another dump and it happened, but it was panic sell by small traders. Same wall as before appeared there in few hours at much lower level. It is still there slowly going up. Selling coins worth of 42 BTC at price 0.00225 costs less than 0.1 BTC on Poloniex. It is not big price for such a game.

It seems this guy owns at least 42 BTC and approximately 20000 BBR (which is 5% of existing coins). It is a big player and question is what are his intentions. I hope it is not to destroy this coin - he would loose lots of money too. Maybe he is just trying to accumulate more at low price, and push price higher, but this strategy (simple big buy wall) is not so effective anymore. He should learn from guys who pumped VRC and Crypt, they know, how to do it.

BBR is really good coin. I am fan of Monero, but this is really improvement. With market cap at 600-800 BTC it is 1/10 of monero. Imagine, where it can go if treated well. It needs wise investors understanding its potential. Lets hope BBR will get it.

It wasn't a fake sell, was one of my sell orders. explanation is much simpler:
sold some of holdings to take profits, after reading posts of cbuchner.

[cbuchner1]

I know, I like the coin too.  But hearing that a closed source miner is getting 5000 -7000 coins a day is a little unsettling when you might have coins on an exchange.  You never know when you might get dumped on.

But here's the thing: most whales probably didn't mine the coins they own, they bought them when they were cheap. And when they decide to cash in, walls are going to fall.

Christian

[cbuchner1]

It wasn't a fake sell, was one of my sell orders. explanation is much simpler:
sold some of holdings to take profits, after reading posts of cbuchner.

by dumping into a 43 BTC buy wall you actually didn't move exchange rate much. kudos for finding the perfect moment to cash in.

[shojayxt]

I think so far no-one has successfully hard-forked a cryptonote coin (the Mountcoin devs tried and that essentially burned the coin). Also I've developed GPU miners for coins that have originally been introduced as "CPU only", "GPU and ASIC resistant". So you might not want to try an arms race.

You're right.  Someone will just find another way.  

I just needed to rant.

I guess I'll donate to the bounty.  Not much else I can do.  

Feel free to give me access to your miner.  I have an NVIDIA rig.  Ha ha

[cbuchner1]

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

by the way the quoted mining number was from earlier days when the difficulty was in the 60-80G range. I think it has tripled since.
A lot more actors are in the cloud mining game now it seems.

[shojayxt]

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

by the way the quoted mining number was from earlier days when the difficulty was in the 60-80G range. I think it has tripled since.
A lot more actors are in the cloud mining game now it seems.

I'm over it already.  Just donated 250 BBR to the bounty.

Keep up the good work you are doing. 

[mkasiak]

There is no big buy wall support here..Price will down to 130K I think...

Are kidding me?

0.00160000   24201.54008983   38.72246414

How big do you want?  

That wall could be eaten any time. Yesterday 43 BTC buy wall at 0.002+ was destroyed in a single sale and i guess the dumper is probably Christian. His team is mining roughly 50% of newly minted BBR each day with his private GPU mining script. If he is happy to dump at 0.002, there is a chance he will continue to dump at 0.0016. He will keep doing so as long as he still make profit.

I strongly believe it was fake sell. There was a discussion about testing the buywall in Poloniex trollbox and a guy named "Monero" announced he will do it. Next minute it was sold. Then he anounced another dump and it happened, but it was panic sell by small traders. Same wall as before appeared there in few hours at much lower level. It is still there slowly going up. Selling coins worth of 42 BTC at price 0.00225 costs less than 0.1 BTC on Poloniex. It is not big price for such a game.

It seems this guy owns at least 42 BTC and approximately 20000 BBR (which is 5% of existing coins). It is a big player and question is what are his intentions. I hope it is not to destroy this coin - he would loose lots of money too. Maybe he is just trying to accumulate more at low price, and push price higher, but this strategy (simple big buy wall) is not so effective anymore. He should learn from guys who pumped VRC and Crypt, they know, how to do it.

BBR is really good coin. I am fan of Monero, but this is really improvement. With market cap at 600-800 BTC it is 1/10 of monero. Imagine, where it can go if treated well. It needs wise investors understanding its potential. Lets hope BBR will get it.

It wasn't a fake sell, was one of my sell orders. explanation is much simpler:
sold some of holdings to take profits, after reading posts of cbuchner.

Sorry, but I do not believe you. So why are we seening more or less same wall again. And the same behaviour?  It is the same person with same money. I am patient. I know this coin will go high...

[uvt9]

I am actually surprised that not more people have optimized the miner and created GPU versions. It's a basic algorithm, much easier than CryptoNite. It's not actually hard to port to GPU.

I'm willing to provide a GPU version in ccMiner if we can get some stratum support in the pools.

But still that will exclude all the AMD folks, as ccMiner is CUDA only. Then all the AMD fanboys will cry "foul play!"

It doesn't look like anybody is going to abandon this coin. The developer is very active,  kind people like dga are contributing to simpleminer and a GUI wallet is in the works. The price has tripled already and investors seem to like the coin.

Your post make me worry even more  . If porting a GPU miner is not hard as you said, there is high chance that you're not the only one who have optimized miner for this coin. There are many skilled programmers in this board, you know.

[btc-mike]

New pool: http://bbr.mine-hard.com

I still recommend using Extreme Pool for now. They have enough hashrate to regularly find blocks. If we split the hashrate, neither pool finds blocks. I created my pool to be a backup.

My pool works and has found blocks on test net and main net. I cleared out all the shares and blocks so everyone would have equal chance.

[btc-mike]

Great news!

The Chinese famous platform btc38.com want to add Boolberry to their crypto-currency library. Which means BBR is more close to btc38 now.

Any suggestions for the chinese name of BBR?
For xmr, they called "门罗币".
Since bool in chinese means "布尔" and berry in chinese means "莓".

Is "布尔莓" ok for Boolberry or any other good suggestions like "数莓" etc.

Where did you get his info?

l have heard 布尔币 is used which roughly translates to "boolcoin."

Let me ask someone else.

@dr_chen

What do you think of 逻辑果 ?

Edit - this roughly translates to logic fruit, but i am told it sounds nicer with no bad luck associations.

[Anotheranonlol]

Great news!

The Chinese famous platform btc38.com want to add Boolberry to their crypto-currency library. Which means BBR is more close to btc38 now.

Any suggestions for the chinese name of BBR?
For xmr, they called "门罗币".
Since bool in chinese means "布尔" and berry in chinese means "莓".

Is "布尔莓" ok for Boolberry or any other good suggestions like "数莓" etc.

Where did you get his info?

l have heard 布尔币 is used which roughly translates to "boolcoin."

Let me ask someone else.

@dr_chen

What do you think of 逻辑果 ?

Edit - this roughly translates to logic fruit, but i am told it sounds nicer with no bad luck associations.

 I'd write 莓币

[btc-mike]

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

I am actually surprised that not more people have optimized the miner and created GPU versions. It's a basic algorithm, much easier than CryptoNite. It's not actually hard to port to GPU.

I'm willing to provide a GPU version in ccMiner if we can get some stratum support in the pools.

But still that will exclude all the AMD folks, as ccMiner is CUDA only. Then all the AMD fanboys will cry "foul play!"

It doesn't look like anybody is going to abandon this coin. The developer is very active,  kind people like dga are contributing to simpleminer and a GUI wallet is in the works. The price has tripled already and investors seem to like the coin.

Christian

Would you be releasing that as open-source?

I see that you will - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7321076#msg7321076

[btc-mike]

I have created a new bounty thread for stratum pool / miner and added 100 BBR from my personal funds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657484.0

[SpeedDemon13]

This is bullshit.  Hardfork this and fix this before people start abandoning this coin.  I'm ready to dump all my coins and move on and I'm not alone.  A closed source miner kept private getting a majority of all the coins.  Come on.

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7320842#msg7320842

I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

smug sob, dev please fork, your coin is too good to be destroyed by one greed idiot.

Hope that's not true about someone having a gpu miner and keeping it to themselves because of greed. That would defeat the ideals of decentralization in the crypto world.

[mkasiak]

This is bullshit.  Hardfork this and fix this before people start abandoning this coin.  I'm ready to dump all my coins and move on and I'm not alone.  A closed source miner kept private getting a majority of all the coins.  Come on.

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7320842#msg7320842

I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

smug sob, dev please fork, your coin is too good to be destroyed by one greed idiot.

Hope that's not true about someone having a gpu miner and keeping it to themselves because of greed. That would defeat the ideals of decentralization in the crypto world.

If I understand it well, GPU miner is not so much more profitable than CPU mining. Maybe 2-3 times. It is nice for its creator, but not so destructive for the coin.

[superresistant]

This is bullshit.  Hardfork this and fix this before people start abandoning this coin.  I'm ready to dump all my coins and move on and I'm not alone.  A closed source miner kept private getting a majority of all the coins.  Come on.

we're mining 5000-7000 coins a day

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg7320842#msg7320842
I have nothing bad to say about the dev of the miner because I would probably do the same.   But I wouldn't be surprised if people called for changes either.

Having cheap or free electricity is way more profitable than this GPU mining.