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Author Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014  (Read 1194096 times)
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July 11, 2014, 06:32:23 AM
Last edit: July 11, 2014, 07:34:11 AM by bigj
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WTF... Network hashrate 3.28 GH/s, i found only two pools, one with around 5.45 MH/s the second with around 2.25 MH/s... someone is solo mining really hard or there is other bigger pools?

It's a mix of a few big solo miners and some private pools.  I still solo mine at home on 5 machines, for example - I get a block every other day or so.  You don't have to be huge to solo BBR still.

Not sure if it's still happening, but for a while, some of the big EC2 miners would run their own pool inside EC2 to keep the bandwidth charges down and latency low.

If you've got more than about 1-2MH/s, I'd solo, but that's just me.

I'm kind of new to the BBR business, but I get suspicious when I see this tremendously skewed distribution of mining power.

Given that cpuminer comes (roughly) with the same hash power as the XMR miner (in the 100-600 kilohash range on standard quad-cores), a total network power of 3.71 GH/s seems really odd to me. How is that even possible without gpu miners? Ok, it's probably not possible without them.. so we have some gpu barons out there. That's fine, the coin evolves. But even then, a network power in the gigahash(!) range is hardly explained by cpu+gpu miners. So, I suspect either (big!) botnets or fpgas in the game. From the technical point of view, the latter would be great for BBR. From a practical point of view, both alternatives are bad, as it means that very few miners are actually generating most of the coins -- and thus, are in almost perfectly control of distribution and price.

Am I mistaken here, or do we have a seruious problem with BBR and the miners here?




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July 11, 2014, 08:11:38 AM
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Is extremepool broken?

Just pulled cpuminer-multi, added the -k and all my linux miner spam alot of mining stuff (good) interuppted (bad) by
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[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-login, disconnecting...
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-connec... and relogin...


and the pool is rejecting all shares.

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-o stratum+tcp://boolberry.extremepool.org:7777 -k http://www.extremepool.org/download/scratchpad.bin


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July 11, 2014, 08:54:22 AM
 #2243

Is extremepool broken?

Just pulled cpuminer-multi, added the -k and all my linux miner spam alot of mining stuff (good) interuppted (bad) by
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[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-login, disconnecting...
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-connec... and relogin...


and the pool is rejecting all shares.

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-o stratum+tcp://boolberry.extremepool.org:7777 -k http://www.extremepool.org/download/scratchpad.bin

Had same issue with Windows 7 x64.   However, it appears to work ok with the bbr.farm pool.   Not sure if it one of the command line parameters or something that needs to be adjusted on the pool side.
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July 11, 2014, 09:17:30 AM
 #2244

Is extremepool broken?

Just pulled cpuminer-multi, added the -k and all my linux miner spam alot of mining stuff (good) interuppted (bad) by
Quote
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-login, disconnecting...
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-connec... and relogin...


and the pool is rejecting all shares.

Quote
-o stratum+tcp://boolberry.extremepool.org:7777 -k http://www.extremepool.org/download/scratchpad.bin

Had same issue with Windows 7 x64.   However, it appears to work ok with the bbr.farm pool.   Not sure if it one of the command line parameters or something that needs to be adjusted on the pool side.

Cheers, bbr.farm is working Cheesy


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July 11, 2014, 09:35:01 AM
 #2245

try to use the new GUI wallet
could not sync the blockchain.

any idea?

Code:
2014-Jul-11 11:27:45.699839 Boolberry v0.2.0.25(aa8d502)

2014-Jul-11 11:30:24.560281 [P2P5]Connecting to 107.170.228.11:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.762579 [P2P5][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.771579 [P2P5][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.228.11:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.780580 [P2P5]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
2014-Jul-11 11:30:31.789695 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.97.197:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.936989 [P2P9][107.170.97.197:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.947990 [P2P9][107.170.97.197:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.97.197:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.956990 [P2P9]Connecting to 188.226.215.102:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:38.092055 [P2P9]Connect failed to 188.226.215.102:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:38.101056 [P2P9]Connecting to 128.199.196.65:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:43.112342 [P2P9]Connect failed to 128.199.196.65:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:43.122343 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.228.11:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.336641 [P2P9][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.345642 [P2P9][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.228.11:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.354642 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.97.197:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:53.364929 [P2P9]Connect failed to 107.170.97.197:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:53.373929 [P2P9]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
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July 11, 2014, 11:16:42 AM
 #2246

try to use the new GUI wallet
could not sync the blockchain.

any idea?

Code:
2014-Jul-11 11:27:45.699839 Boolberry v0.2.0.25(aa8d502)

2014-Jul-11 11:30:24.560281 [P2P5]Connecting to 107.170.228.11:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.762579 [P2P5][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.771579 [P2P5][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.228.11:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:29.780580 [P2P5]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds
2014-Jul-11 11:30:31.789695 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.97.197:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.936989 [P2P9][107.170.97.197:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.947990 [P2P9][107.170.97.197:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.97.197:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:36.956990 [P2P9]Connecting to 188.226.215.102:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:38.092055 [P2P9]Connect failed to 188.226.215.102:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:38.101056 [P2P9]Connecting to 128.199.196.65:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:43.112342 [P2P9]Connect failed to 128.199.196.65:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:43.122343 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.228.11:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.336641 [P2P9][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]COMMAND_HANDSHAKE Failed
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.345642 [P2P9][107.170.228.11:10101 OUT]Failed to HANDSHAKE with peer 107.170.228.11:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:48.354642 [P2P9]Connecting to 107.170.97.197:10101(white=1, last_seen: never)...
2014-Jul-11 11:30:53.364929 [P2P9]Connect failed to 107.170.97.197:10101
2014-Jul-11 11:30:53.373929 [P2P9]Failed to connect to any of seed peers, continuing without seeds


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July 11, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
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Fixed

thanks - works!
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July 11, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
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Wow, a lot of great dev work going on with boolberry! I need to upgrade my wallet, but it doesn't look as easy as a simple file replace this time. The version I downloaded from http://boolberry.com/downloads.html has a lot more files than the original boolberry I downloaded 4 weeks agao or so.

Are there any upgrade tutorials? The original version didn't have all thoe dll files, what do they do?

I have coins in my old wallet, and coins I want to get off of poloniex.
thanks

Just replace dlls and exe files from new archive.
And please keep your wallets away from binaries, next version will fix this issue and will offer to save/open wallets in a user home folder by default.


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July 11, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
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WTF... Network hashrate 3.28 GH/s, i found only two pools, one with around 5.45 MH/s the second with around 2.25 MH/s... someone is solo mining really hard or there is other bigger pools?

It's a mix of a few big solo miners and some private pools.  I still solo mine at home on 5 machines, for example - I get a block every other day or so.  You don't have to be huge to solo BBR still.

Not sure if it's still happening, but for a while, some of the big EC2 miners would run their own pool inside EC2 to keep the bandwidth charges down and latency low.

If you've got more than about 1-2MH/s, I'd solo, but that's just me.

I'm kind of new to the BBR business, but I get suspicious when I see this tremendously skewed distribution of mining power.

Given that cpuminer comes (roughly) with the same hash power as the XMR miner (in the 100-600 kilohash range on standard quad-cores), a total network power of 3.71 GH/s seems really odd to me. How is that even possible without gpu miners? Ok, it's probably not possible without them.. so we have some gpu barons out there. That's fine, the coin evolves. But even then, a network power in the gigahash(!) range is hardly explained by cpu+gpu miners. So, I suspect either (big!) botnets or fpgas in the game. From the technical point of view, the latter would be great for BBR. From a practical point of view, both alternatives are bad, as it means that very few miners are actually generating most of the coins -- and thus, are in almost perfectly control of distribution and price.

Am I mistaken here, or do we have a seruious problem with BBR and the miners here?

Me and also David (dga) already commented such questions here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7479014#msg7479014, please review this post.




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July 11, 2014, 11:54:58 AM
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Is extremepool broken?

Just pulled cpuminer-multi, added the -k and all my linux miner spam alot of mining stuff (good) interuppted (bad) by
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[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-login, disconnecting...
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-connec... and relogin...


and the pool is rejecting all shares.

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-o stratum+tcp://boolberry.extremepool.org:7777 -k http://www.extremepool.org/download/scratchpad.bin

Yesterday i've pushed major update for pool, probably boolberry.extremepool.org was not updated yet when you had tryed.

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July 11, 2014, 03:53:05 PM
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Is extremepool broken?

Just pulled cpuminer-multi, added the -k and all my linux miner spam alot of mining stuff (good) interuppted (bad) by
Quote
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-login, disconnecting...
[2014-07-11 14:10:58] Re-connec... and relogin...


and the pool is rejecting all shares.

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-o stratum+tcp://boolberry.extremepool.org:7777 -k http://www.extremepool.org/download/scratchpad.bin

Yesterday i've pushed major update for pool, probably boolberry.extremepool.org was not updated yet when you had tryed.
sorry I was away for a little while.
http://boolberry.extremepool.org has been updated to the latest code.

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July 11, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
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.......
sorry I was away for a little while.
http://boolberry.extremepool.org has been updated to the latest code.

Great! Thank you!

PS: Yet another update is coming soon Smiley

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July 11, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
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.......
sorry I was away for a little while.
http://boolberry.extremepool.org has been updated to the latest code.

Great! Thank you!

PS: Yet another update is coming soon Smiley

Can't wait Smiley
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July 11, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
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What is happening with the bbr.farm pool?
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July 11, 2014, 06:01:06 PM
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What is happening with the bbr.farm pool?

Not sure. I notified pool operator.

Extremepool.org is operating normally.
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July 11, 2014, 08:31:05 PM
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bbr.farm: is updated to the latest code,
we also upgraded our server to welcome more miners.

Please use stratum, and happy mining
Code:
./minerd -a wildkeccak -o stratum+tcp://bbr.farm:7777 -u YOUR_WALLET_ADDRESS -p X -P -D -t NUMBER_OF_THREADS -k http://bbr.farm/download/scratchpad.bin

You can find me on #boolberry channel on FreeNode
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July 11, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
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Dear friends ( especially pool operators )!

Last commit enabled automatic scratchfile updating from boolbd daemon.
Now you just have to configure your pool with target folder/scratchpad.bin file and time interval for saving scratchpad, and pool via daemon rpc will be regularly update shared scratchpad file.

!!!!! This update will work only with last version of daemon!!!!!!

Instructions:
1. Pull daemon sources and rebuild it.
2. Pull pool seurces.
3. Update your config.json with following lines:

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        "clusterForks": "auto",
        "poolAddress": "1L1ZPC9XodC6g5BX8j8m3vcdkXPiZrVF7RcERWE879coQDWiztUbkkVZ86o43P27Udb3qxL4B41gbaG pvj3nS7DgFZauAZE",
        "scratchpadFilePath": "/usr/share/nginx/html/scratchpad.bin",
        "scratchpadFileUpdateInterval": 14400000,

        "blockRefreshInterval": 1000,
scratchpadFileUpdateInterval - interval for scratchpad updating(milliseconds), 14400000 by default (4 hours).

4. Turn your http server to share this file and update mining instructions to make command line point to this file via URL.




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July 12, 2014, 12:05:17 AM
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WTF... Network hashrate 3.28 GH/s, i found only two pools, one with around 5.45 MH/s the second with around 2.25 MH/s... someone is solo mining really hard or there is other bigger pools?

It's a mix of a few big solo miners and some private pools.  I still solo mine at home on 5 machines, for example - I get a block every other day or so.  You don't have to be huge to solo BBR still.

Not sure if it's still happening, but for a while, some of the big EC2 miners would run their own pool inside EC2 to keep the bandwidth charges down and latency low.

If you've got more than about 1-2MH/s, I'd solo, but that's just me.

I'm kind of new to the BBR business, but I get suspicious when I see this tremendously skewed distribution of mining power.

Given that cpuminer comes (roughly) with the same hash power as the XMR miner (in the 100-600 kilohash range on standard quad-cores), a total network power of 3.71 GH/s seems really odd to me. How is that even possible without gpu miners? Ok, it's probably not possible without them.. so we have some gpu barons out there. That's fine, the coin evolves. But even then, a network power in the gigahash(!) range is hardly explained by cpu+gpu miners. So, I suspect either (big!) botnets or fpgas in the game. From the technical point of view, the latter would be great for BBR. From a practical point of view, both alternatives are bad, as it means that very few miners are actually generating most of the coins -- and thus, are in almost perfectly control of distribution and price.

Am I mistaken here, or do we have a seruious problem with BBR and the miners here?

Me and also David (dga) already commented such questions here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7479014#msg7479014, please review this post.




There is clearly someone that keeps selling large amounts of BBR daily, thus clearing the buy side of the orderbooks. Price does not seem to matter much, indicating his cost basis is significantly below current prices. So, either one of the original miners or some GPU enhanced mining. The amount of sales are around 10,000 per day, which is pretty close to the new BBR created...

So, is there a plan to make BBR mining much more difficult for GPU? It seems pretty evident that the cost of CPU mining is nowhere near as good as this mythical GPU guy. I just dont see people selling CPU mined coins below cost.
If there is a way to make the scratchpad 1 gig? That would sure put a dent into any GPU efforts. We can then see if the daily 10000 sales stops.

Is anybody against this?

James

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July 12, 2014, 12:18:04 AM
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WTF... Network hashrate 3.28 GH/s, i found only two pools, one with around 5.45 MH/s the second with around 2.25 MH/s... someone is solo mining really hard or there is other bigger pools?

It's a mix of a few big solo miners and some private pools.  I still solo mine at home on 5 machines, for example - I get a block every other day or so.  You don't have to be huge to solo BBR still.

Not sure if it's still happening, but for a while, some of the big EC2 miners would run their own pool inside EC2 to keep the bandwidth charges down and latency low.

If you've got more than about 1-2MH/s, I'd solo, but that's just me.

I'm kind of new to the BBR business, but I get suspicious when I see this tremendously skewed distribution of mining power.

Given that cpuminer comes (roughly) with the same hash power as the XMR miner (in the 100-600 kilohash range on standard quad-cores), a total network power of 3.71 GH/s seems really odd to me. How is that even possible without gpu miners? Ok, it's probably not possible without them.. so we have some gpu barons out there. That's fine, the coin evolves. But even then, a network power in the gigahash(!) range is hardly explained by cpu+gpu miners. So, I suspect either (big!) botnets or fpgas in the game. From the technical point of view, the latter would be great for BBR. From a practical point of view, both alternatives are bad, as it means that very few miners are actually generating most of the coins -- and thus, are in almost perfectly control of distribution and price.

Am I mistaken here, or do we have a seruious problem with BBR and the miners here?

Me and also David (dga) already commented such questions here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg7479014#msg7479014, please review this post.




There is clearly someone that keeps selling large amounts of BBR daily, thus clearing the buy side of the orderbooks. Price does not seem to matter much, indicating his cost basis is significantly below current prices. So, either one of the original miners or some GPU enhanced mining. The amount of sales are around 10,000 per day, which is pretty close to the new BBR created...

So, is there a plan to make BBR mining much more difficult for GPU? It seems pretty evident that the cost of CPU mining is nowhere near as good as this mythical GPU guy. I just dont see people selling CPU mined coins below cost.
If there is a way to make the scratchpad 1 gig? That would sure put a dent into any GPU efforts. We can then see if the daily 10000 sales stops.

Is anybody against this?

James
I am, against, because:
1. 1GB of scratchpad gonna kill possibility of SPV client.
2. GPU miner will help coin to withstand botnets.
3. "mythical GPU guy" is cbuchner1&Co, according to his posts he is going to release his GPU miner for BBR.





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July 12, 2014, 12:23:08 AM
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can you gfive step by step to run cpuminer for windows? im gettign some scratchpad error.

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