rdnkjdi
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September 04, 2014, 03:31:57 PM |
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The long term fix is just tossing all the horribly dangerous C code that contains naked pointers and moving to something somewhat less terrible like C++.
Maybe the Cryptonote Foundation can hire Peter Todd or gmaxwell to port the entire thing over to an expanded Bitcoin codebase. Once the modularization is done, of course. That jl777 guy is supposed to be "just a simple c coder" ... maybe you could get him
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tifozi
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September 04, 2014, 03:33:13 PM Last edit: September 04, 2014, 03:53:05 PM by tifozi |
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Any idea why Bittrex wallet is disabled?
Just caught up in the XMR exploit cross fire I suppose. The bug existed in all CN coins, but was only exploited in XMR mainnet, over the course of last 4 days, no less. There was no reason for them to freeze BBR, but I guess they wanted to exercise caution based on partial information thrown around that "BBR also has the bug".
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sdersdf2
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September 04, 2014, 03:41:07 PM |
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Any insights from BBR dev on what might have happened with XMR and whether this is an issue for other cryptonote coins?
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whap
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September 04, 2014, 03:50:32 PM |
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Any insights from BBR dev on what might have happened with XMR and whether this is an issue for other cryptonote coins?
It's an issue for all CN coins. Problem fixed for XMR and BBR, don't know about the others.
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tljenson
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September 04, 2014, 04:49:19 PM |
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Good morning dear friends!
Just awakened by the call and findout news that Monero is under attack.
I'm started looking on it now, and, well, i have 2 news! Good one and bad one!
Bad news is that Boolbery also have this flaw. (Like every Cryptonote). Good news - that this attack need pretty long period of preparation, because to achive big amount of transactions per block attackers need to move median, it's a day or more. That means that even if i see that attack is starting i have enought time to update network with workaround rule, that won't let grow transactions count per block too much to fail. Exactly that's why we have alerts feature - in case of emergency i could update network pretty quickly!
Zoidberg
so this means BBR is safe as long as you see the attack preparation? do you think you can fix the flaw before an attack could be implemented? my understanding is this attack takes days and so it can be detected I have a feeling CZ will be able to fix the code so even with this attack, it just pushes the excess tx into the next block James DTS: before you start saying that my statement is disrespecting the XMR devs, plz dont. I just said what I thought CZ could do, nothing more nothing less. ok load off my mind.. i both love and hate waking up to big drama that bter hack took it out of me. at least this seems like a relatively minor issue for BBR. with monero in the shitter and BBR looking safe.. there could be massive influx of money flowing from xmr to BBR.. i dont see why. this could have hit BBR just as easily, so the fact it was XMR was just cuz XMR is a bigger target its in the common code, it is a shared problem If you look at the market price, you will see BBR suffered right along for this. both coins suffer short term from the fact there was this bug, but it is one less vulnerability also, this is more like the GLEFU in NXT, not really a money thing, annoying, a pain, but I dont think they even need to rollback so like the GLEFU in a few days it is as if it never happened James I agree with James, I'm tired of the negativity generated by this back and forth attack fest. Like many have said the XMR and BBR should be on the same side. As you said this could have happened to any CryptoNote currency. I've seen similar comments about how this might effect duckNote currency. I'd rather look at it in a positive light, what it means is now I can invest in XMR, because most likely it will be going for cheap the next few days. I prefer BBR think it's the better coin, but this is still very early in the game. In the end it makes all CryptoNote currencies better, it just unfortunate that XMR got hurt by this. You could say that XMR made the ultimate sacrifice to make CryptoNote live up to its promise of creating a way to exchange funds privately. I for one think we need to be there for the XMR crowd, and be offering support not attacks, because as James said this could have been us or any other CryptoNote based coin.
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sonoIO
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September 04, 2014, 05:55:51 PM |
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Zoidberg, is new fix needed for boolbd in mbk repo also, for GPU miner?
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jl777
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September 04, 2014, 06:31:22 PM |
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[ANN - cryptonote brothers]
I have reached out to key XMR peoples and offered a plan for unity and they are in agreement. This attack on XMR is an attack on all cryptonotes and we must unite. What is good for any cryptonote is good for BBR and what is good for BBR is good for all cryptonotes.
I am seeing that the core XMR people are not the source of the anti-BBR FUD and of course the other way around too. So, just like this attack is from anti-cryptonote faction, the constant FUD attacks are also from an anti-cryptonote faction. Now who has the most to gain from the failure of cryptonote? That is the prime suspect, but it doesnt matter who it is. this unknown enemy has made a big benefit to all of cryptonote and especially to the brothers BBR and XMR
Since BBR and XMR are mostly the same, for any BBR supporter to say negative of XMR is saying bad of BBR. So this person who is claiming to be BBR supporter is either ignorant (this is curable with some kind communications) or an enemy agent. This is not curable, but they can simply be shunned. Their power to disrupt is evaporated.
A new era of harmony between the brothers has arrived!
So, the simple rules are this: 1. When in your brother's house, if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything 2. When here in BBR thread, you can say anything, but let's try to be positive and supportive whenever possible 3. When in neutral place, just behave like you would like the other to behave
I think these are some common sense rules and I hope that BBR community can adopt this code for civil discourse.
The power of this simple thing is that anybody that is ignoring it, even after being reminded, is now exposed as enemy agent!
James
P.S. Soon after this new unity is more than just concept but reality, then I am having some big plans for making last week look like a small thing. First step though, we need to eliminate the FUD agents!
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georgehosterguy
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September 04, 2014, 06:35:57 PM Last edit: September 04, 2014, 06:49:19 PM by georgehosterguy |
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[ANN - cryptonote brothers]
I have reached out to key XMR peoples and offered a plan for unity and they are in agreement. This attack on XMR is an attack on all cryptonotes and we must unite. What is good for any cryptonote is good for BBR and what is good for BBR is good for all cryptonotes.
I am seeing that the core XMR people are not the source of the anti-BBR FUD and of course the other way around too. So, just like this attack is from anti-cryptonote faction, the constant FUD attacks are also from an anti-cryptonote faction. Now who has the most to gain from the failure of cryptonote? That is the prime suspect, but it doesnt matter who it is. this unknown enemy has made a big benefit to all of cryptonote and especially to the brothers BBR and XMR
Since BBR and XMR are mostly the same, for any BBR supporter to say negative of XMR is saying bad of BBR. So this person who is claiming to be BBR supporter is either ignorant (this is curable with some kind communications) or an enemy agent. This is not curable, but they can simply be shunned. Their power to disrupt is evaporated.
A new era of harmony between the brothers has arrived!
So, the simple rules are this: 1. When in your brother's house, if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything 2. When here in BBR thread, you can say anything, but let's try to be positive and supportive whenever possible 3. When in neutral place, just behave like you would like the other to behave
I think these are some common sense rules and I hope that BBR community can adopt this code for civil discourse.
The power of this simple thing is that anybody that is ignoring it, even after being reminded, is now exposed as enemy agent!
James
P.S. Soon after this new unity is more than just concept but reality, then I am having some big plans for making last week look like a small thing. First step though, we need to eliminate the FUD agents!
So let me get this straight. You've got the only legit competition to cryptonote (BTCD), you're building a supernet because XMR crowd "Hurt your feelings", you don't even know about the original BCN scam & why being part of the original developers would be a bad reflection & you are now the avowed peackeeper between the "cryptonote brothers" BBR & XMR? Dude. really ... You're the biggest patronization personality on the forums AFAICT. Zoidberg has earned respect from all camps and doesn't need your patronization. I think XMR devs are big boys as well.
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jl777
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September 04, 2014, 07:19:38 PM |
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[ANN - cryptonote brothers]
I have reached out to key XMR peoples and offered a plan for unity and they are in agreement. This attack on XMR is an attack on all cryptonotes and we must unite. What is good for any cryptonote is good for BBR and what is good for BBR is good for all cryptonotes.
I am seeing that the core XMR people are not the source of the anti-BBR FUD and of course the other way around too. So, just like this attack is from anti-cryptonote faction, the constant FUD attacks are also from an anti-cryptonote faction. Now who has the most to gain from the failure of cryptonote? That is the prime suspect, but it doesnt matter who it is. this unknown enemy has made a big benefit to all of cryptonote and especially to the brothers BBR and XMR
Since BBR and XMR are mostly the same, for any BBR supporter to say negative of XMR is saying bad of BBR. So this person who is claiming to be BBR supporter is either ignorant (this is curable with some kind communications) or an enemy agent. This is not curable, but they can simply be shunned. Their power to disrupt is evaporated.
A new era of harmony between the brothers has arrived!
So, the simple rules are this: 1. When in your brother's house, if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything 2. When here in BBR thread, you can say anything, but let's try to be positive and supportive whenever possible 3. When in neutral place, just behave like you would like the other to behave
I think these are some common sense rules and I hope that BBR community can adopt this code for civil discourse.
The power of this simple thing is that anybody that is ignoring it, even after being reminded, is now exposed as enemy agent!
James
P.S. Soon after this new unity is more than just concept but reality, then I am having some big plans for making last week look like a small thing. First step though, we need to eliminate the FUD agents!
So let me get this straight. You've got the only legit competition to cryptonote (BTCD), you're building a supernet because XMR crowd "Hurt your feelings", you don't even know about the original BCN scam & why being part of the original developers would be a bad reflection & you are now the avowed peackeeper between the "cryptonote brothers" BBR & XMR? Dude. really ... You're the biggest patronization personality on the forums AFAICT. Zoidberg has earned respect from all camps and doesn't need your patronization. I think XMR devs are big boys as well. If I am such competition why am I so happy I help BBR 10x in a week? Please understand crypto is in expansion phase, there are no competitions inside crypto, only fiat is the competition I jus know that UNITY is better than this name callings
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georgehosterguy
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September 04, 2014, 07:49:39 PM |
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If I am such competition why am I so happy I help BBR 10x in a week? Please understand crypto is in expansion phase, there are no competitions inside crypto, only fiat is the competition
I jus know that UNITY is better than this name callings Edit: I have nothing constructive or helpful to say in response.
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visual111
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September 04, 2014, 09:06:57 PM |
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If I am such competition why am I so happy I help BBR 10x in a week? Please understand crypto is in expansion phase, there are no competitions inside crypto, only fiat is the competition
I jus know that UNITY is better than this name callings Edit: I have nothing constructive or helpful to say in response. i wish more people would share this honesty! it is very irritating to sift through the flame war that is so rampant in some of these threads
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September 04, 2014, 10:06:10 PM |
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Good news!
We have new version v0.2.0.34(b4fe304), with some new features and fixes:
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Great work!
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matrix961
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September 04, 2014, 11:43:20 PM |
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Great job on making it through a rough day. I enjoyed seeing the devs from both communities working together. People from both communities trying to get the word out to exchanges etc was a big help. Everyone jumped on this issue very quickly and it makes me happy to hold my coins.
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September 05, 2014, 12:07:03 AM |
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bbr will cost @0.01 too?
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Glow Like Dat
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September 05, 2014, 12:12:42 AM Last edit: September 05, 2014, 02:11:29 AM by tuanvtau |
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please help me. apter update 2.0.37 wallet, i transfer money to poloniex or bittrex it until show Uncornfirm, why? i have send with payment id, money succes sent but till now it uncorfirm. thank for any one help https://www.dropbox.com/s/hz5sfauvf7ned3w/bbr.jpg?dl=0
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jd1959
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September 05, 2014, 02:42:36 AM |
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Together we survive One dies both DieJon
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dICO Disguised Instant Cash Out
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kingscrown
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September 05, 2014, 02:45:25 AM |
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we have |GPU mining pool now?
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jl777
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September 05, 2014, 02:57:21 AM |
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bbr will cost @0.01 too?
yes, just needs some bigger user base and XMR is going there too
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