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September 05, 2014, 03:26:04 AM |
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we have |GPU mining pool now?
Been able to mine at pool a long time now. Check the getting started pages on the pools listed on the first page.
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pinky
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September 05, 2014, 06:49:04 AM |
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To short BBR, you need to find someone who will loan it to you. The interest rate will probably be exhorbitant. When I shorted I did fairly well but paid out a large chunk as interest. My short performance was degrading rapidly at the end, which means I was taking increasing risk, so I lost interest. Also I think I was making volatility worse, rather than better, at the end, which is bad for BBR, so I knew it was time to stop. Good mean-reversion strategy performance should result in lower volatility in the underlying. If it is doing the opposite, you're doing it wrong - or you're trading momentum. I may do again, but not until I have more clarity on the fundamental and technical situation in BBR - which may never happen since it is just not very interesting to me. I want to buy future reserve currency, stack it high, and hold it long. Anything else is just a distraction.
I bet he was not the only one. Nothing wrong with shorting, but understand they were trying to kill BBR. They were willing to take loses with BBR, because they gain with huge position (+50k) in XMR. As he put it, only XMR, the rest are only distraction.
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windjc
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September 05, 2014, 07:43:55 AM |
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bbr will cost @0.01 too?
yes, just needs some bigger user base and XMR is going there too BBR is so primed for an increase in price its not funny. There is literally no supply of the coin and right now its market cap should be AT LEAST as high as XMR. Its still 1/10 or less of that.
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windjc
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September 05, 2014, 07:44:49 AM |
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To short BBR, you need to find someone who will loan it to you. The interest rate will probably be exhorbitant. When I shorted I did fairly well but paid out a large chunk as interest. My short performance was degrading rapidly at the end, which means I was taking increasing risk, so I lost interest. Also I think I was making volatility worse, rather than better, at the end, which is bad for BBR, so I knew it was time to stop. Good mean-reversion strategy performance should result in lower volatility in the underlying. If it is doing the opposite, you're doing it wrong - or you're trading momentum. I may do again, but not until I have more clarity on the fundamental and technical situation in BBR - which may never happen since it is just not very interesting to me. I want to buy future reserve currency, stack it high, and hold it long. Anything else is just a distraction.
I bet he was not the only one. Nothing wrong with shorting, but understand they were trying to kill BBR. They were willing to take loses with BBR, because they gain with huge position (+50k) in XMR. As he put it, only XMR, the rest are only distraction. Absolutely they were. Arrogance. BBR, which I wish it would be renamed, should have the same market cap as XMR.
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pinky
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September 05, 2014, 08:02:23 AM |
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To short BBR, you need to find someone who will loan it to you. The interest rate will probably be exhorbitant. When I shorted I did fairly well but paid out a large chunk as interest. My short performance was degrading rapidly at the end, which means I was taking increasing risk, so I lost interest. Also I think I was making volatility worse, rather than better, at the end, which is bad for BBR, so I knew it was time to stop. Good mean-reversion strategy performance should result in lower volatility in the underlying. If it is doing the opposite, you're doing it wrong - or you're trading momentum. I may do again, but not until I have more clarity on the fundamental and technical situation in BBR - which may never happen since it is just not very interesting to me. I want to buy future reserve currency, stack it high, and hold it long. Anything else is just a distraction.
I bet he was not the only one. Nothing wrong with shorting, but understand they were trying to kill BBR. They were willing to take loses with BBR, because they gain with huge position (+50k) in XMR. As he put it, only XMR, the rest are only distraction. Absolutely they were. Arrogance. BBR, which I wish it would be renamed, should have the same market cap as XMR. I agree, but same market cap would mean price of BBR > XMR due to smaller daily emmision. Not gonna happen, as soon BBR will get close to the price of XMR they will start shorting like crazy.
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September 05, 2014, 09:13:32 AM |
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... as soon BBR will get close to the price of XMR they will start shorting like crazy.
Then followed by the short squeeze.
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windjc
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September 05, 2014, 09:23:43 AM |
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To short BBR, you need to find someone who will loan it to you. The interest rate will probably be exhorbitant. When I shorted I did fairly well but paid out a large chunk as interest. My short performance was degrading rapidly at the end, which means I was taking increasing risk, so I lost interest. Also I think I was making volatility worse, rather than better, at the end, which is bad for BBR, so I knew it was time to stop. Good mean-reversion strategy performance should result in lower volatility in the underlying. If it is doing the opposite, you're doing it wrong - or you're trading momentum. I may do again, but not until I have more clarity on the fundamental and technical situation in BBR - which may never happen since it is just not very interesting to me. I want to buy future reserve currency, stack it high, and hold it long. Anything else is just a distraction.
I bet he was not the only one. Nothing wrong with shorting, but understand they were trying to kill BBR. They were willing to take loses with BBR, because they gain with huge position (+50k) in XMR. As he put it, only XMR, the rest are only distraction. Absolutely they were. Arrogance. BBR, which I wish it would be renamed, should have the same market cap as XMR. I agree, but same market cap would mean price of BBR > XMR due to smaller daily emmision. Not gonna happen, as soon BBR will get close to the price of XMR they will start shorting like crazy. Shorting?? Ha. Once SuperNet is up and running, the "btc whales" over at XMR will not have a fraction of the buying or "selling/shorting" power that SuperNet has. Which means they could short and ShortNet could buy up all their shorts and force them to squeeze. LOL. XMR doesn't know what's coming.
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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September 05, 2014, 09:30:49 AM |
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Zoidberg, is new fix needed for boolbd in mbk repo also, for GPU miner?
Yes, of course. Mbk said that he gonna make new release on this weekend.
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sonoIO
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September 05, 2014, 10:02:42 AM |
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Zoidberg, is new fix needed for boolbd in mbk repo also, for GPU miner?
Yes, of course. Mbk said that he gonna make new release on this weekend. Tnx, i'll update my solo GPU miner as soon as mbk puts fix in his repo.
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September 05, 2014, 10:31:22 AM |
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Someone is trying to manipulate the price - maybe I should put an 100btc wall at 0.0008
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klee
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September 05, 2014, 10:56:24 AM |
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Someone is trying to manipulate the price - maybe I should put an 100btc wall at 0.0008 +1 It is not needed though, if someone shorts he will get burned at 0.0008 nevertheless...
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September 05, 2014, 10:57:06 AM Last edit: September 05, 2014, 11:37:48 AM by Nazdorovje |
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Hmm First it was XMR. Seems it not looks good for BBR.. The next in line to be hack Except not spotted. And this particular fork has succeeded. Now we need a hard fork ?
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S3MKi
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September 05, 2014, 11:23:03 AM |
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Someone is trying to manipulate the price - maybe I should put an 100btc wall at 0.0008 at 0.01 please klee
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drawingthemoon
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September 05, 2014, 11:28:52 AM |
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To short BBR, you need to find someone who will loan it to you. The interest rate will probably be exhorbitant. When I shorted I did fairly well but paid out a large chunk as interest. My short performance was degrading rapidly at the end, which means I was taking increasing risk, so I lost interest. Also I think I was making volatility worse, rather than better, at the end, which is bad for BBR, so I knew it was time to stop. Good mean-reversion strategy performance should result in lower volatility in the underlying. If it is doing the opposite, you're doing it wrong - or you're trading momentum. I may do again, but not until I have more clarity on the fundamental and technical situation in BBR - which may never happen since it is just not very interesting to me. I want to buy future reserve currency, stack it high, and hold it long. Anything else is just a distraction.
I bet he was not the only one. Nothing wrong with shorting, but understand they were trying to kill BBR. They were willing to take loses with BBR, because they gain with huge position (+50k) in XMR. As he put it, only XMR, the rest are only distraction. Absolutely they were. Arrogance. BBR, which I wish it would be renamed, should have the same market cap as XMR. At least finally people are getting it. There is BIG money involved with BTC whales in Monero and they don't understand, speak or want to engage in a language that jl777 et al want to speak. They normally have given backhanded speeches about BBR but in reality want to see BBR gone and gone asap. They do have some portion of their money allocated to financially hurt BBR which is why I think communities will come and rally around BBR. Aminorex in collusion with smooth (who is just a smooth talker imo) are now resorting to just malign zoidberg personally since other attacks against BBR are not working out. jl777 has got it all wrong with this brother/brother mantra. They are not interested in it. The ones who might be interested are suppressing their enthusiasm due to maybe having to go with the more powerful and or having much stronger position in XMR. Watch out for their snake oil language like "oh now I am so disappointed in you zoidberg", "BBR is just a pnd for me" etc etc ....
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darlidada
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September 05, 2014, 11:45:26 AM |
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Hmm First it was XMR. Seems it not looks good for BBR.. The next in line to be hack Except not spotted. And this particular fork has succeeded. Now we need a hard fork ? is it true or is it fud? there was 40K bbr dumped on polo then a lot of talk about bbr being attacked on the trollbox. it would be nice to see someone refute all of this instead of talking about xmr.
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drawingthemoon
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September 05, 2014, 11:48:15 AM |
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I agree, but same market cap would mean price of BBR > XMR due to smaller daily emmision. Not gonna happen, as soon BBR will get close to the price of XMR they will start shorting like crazy.
Remember though, a lot of the them had indicated that they would exit CryptoNote altogether if BBR were to ever overtake XMR in terms of marketcap (since they considered BBR a "clone launched later"), so the path may be easier as the MCap goes higher (if they were being serious with the threats ) For me it is quite important that the heaviest volume move to a new or different exchange. Poloniex interface is great but it just has other factors going against BBR being traded there in XMR territory.
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nrg_wolf
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September 05, 2014, 11:55:02 AM |
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whats up with http://cncoin.farm/...... miners cant connect and cant access it
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September 05, 2014, 12:00:22 PM |
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Yes its not working, Miner is also not mining so its not just the webpage.
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drawingthemoon
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September 05, 2014, 12:11:29 PM |
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is it true or is it fud? there was 40K bbr dumped on polo then a lot of talk about bbr being attacked on the trollbox. it would be nice to see someone refute all of this instead of talking about xmr.
Another example of a snake oil salesman, he goes by " suchtroll" on Poloniex. These teams are 24x7 engaged in mudslinging, name calling and spreading general hysterical FUD around BBR. They spend hours sucking up to the wealthy and elite who hold XMR and pump the coin non stop in Polo trollbox. suchtroll: thats the problem with the bbr community, too much people are dishonest, dev is shady, we cant trust anyonemonero: suchtroll, dev got sued by microsoft for coding botnet, what can you expect suchtroll: monero, lol would love to read that story joseph-54f8: Some great folks get sued by Microsoft monero: suchtroll, http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2012/01/23/microsoft-names-new-defendant-in-kelihos-case/joseph-54f8: But botnets are theft of services GeezUp: LordzS, you have a link suchtroll: monero, i read a bit about sirius but i didnt find anything worth to share suchtroll: monero, thx monero: registered more than 3,700 cz.cc subdomains from Mr. Piatti and dotFREE Group SRO, and misused those subdomains to operate and control the Kelihos botnet. monero: CZ.. subtle. suchtroll: monero, lol cz.cc = CZ suchtroll: monero, that is worth reading!! joseph-54f8: I thought he claimed to not be Andrey N. Sabelnikov weedzo: that guy is the BBR dev? monero: joseph-54f8, evidence suggests otherwise. joseph-54f8: Crypto-zoidberg suchtroll: he must be botnet mining xmr and bbr lol monero: As far as I know, he's never explicitly denied it anyway. maqa71: jl777 nailed him in ann but he didnt want to confirm lol joseph-54f8: He did claim to not be Andrey N. Sabelnikov, but you are saying that he is lieing about that? monero: joseph-54f8, I never saw him claim he wasn't. if he did, yes monero: joseph-54f8, Just saw him sideskirt the topic saying he has reasons to remain anon. suchtroll: joseph-54f8, it seems he did lie... look at the CZ thing. seems too much of a coincidence now greenmon: Why do you think that cz's real name is Andry N. Sabelnikov? suchtroll: joseph-54f8, he has his reasons anyway; i wonder tho if he's botnet mining his own coin greenmon: Andrey monero: greenmon, I know that it is already, but wouldn't post it here. monero: rethink-your-strategy already posted about the bender comments in eepee library used in bytecoin and bbr. monero: which was written by sabelnikov suchtroll: The Kelihos botnet, also known as Hlux, is a botnet mainly involved in the theft of bitcoins and spamming.1 suchtroll: lol suchtroll: i hope you guys check the bbr software before using it monero: for sure there are botnets on XMR, no doubt. At least 3 proven. maqa71: aminoguy praising him lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg8674853#msg8674853monero: I'm not sure about BBR. Have noticed more AWS than anything else. suchtroll: monero, yeah but what about bbr? how do we know? suchtroll: monero, would be strange of him to work for free on a coin without knowing if it has a future, doesnt compute with what he did in his life previously. suchtroll: monero, or he changed
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September 05, 2014, 12:25:27 PM |
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Yes its not working, Miner is also not mining so its not just the webpage. is it possible to setup a failover pool with the BBR miner?
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