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[cAPSLOCK]

I personally like Rune better than boolberry.  Sounds strong and secretive.  But people will complain no matter what you do.

[smooth]

I'm not really a "member of the community" although I've mined some and I hold a little, but I agree with the sentiment that a sincere community vote should include the option to retain the name. Otherwise you are making use of the "whoever controls the vote controls the results" principle and the vote is a sham.

I think couple of monero shills have expressed this deep desire to keep the name Boolberry and their posts are not being deleted if they are sincere on the voting thread. Only darlidada/nekamoto sockpuppets are being deleted for being consistently repugnant. I am guessing this is why there is no poll option on the thread.

For the record, I full expected you to come here and show the support to keep the name BBR. Just very predictable mate.

Eh, I don't really support it. I've suggested in the past that it be changed. I just think if there is a vote "no change" should be an option. That's all. I'm not even sure there should be a vote (maybe just a poll), but if there is a vote, don't do a sham vote with one obvious option conspicuously missing.

[pt7]

Even though I sort of liked the Boolberry name, I agree that it should not be a voting option at least for the following reason:

[cAPSLOCK]

Even though I sort of liked the Boolberry name, I agree that it should not be a voting option at least for the following reason:

That ghost looks stoned as hell.  Makes sense actually.

Also, I want a "boo hooter"

[HinnomTX]

BBR devs seem to have no problem disrespecting the BBR community by not even having an option to keep the name Boolberry.

+1
Silent partner here, sitting on a considerable stash of BBR. The unilateral decision making here is appalling. CZ, listen to your community and set up a real vote, please!

Ponder this for a sec: Boolberry works well because it googles perfectly. Page after page of references to the coin, and nothing else. It doesn't even get autocorrected to Boo Berry. When newbies hear about 'Vortex' it's gonna be no fun finding that needle in the haystack of information on vortices.

[smooth]

Boolberry works well because it googles perfectly.

Yup. Free SEO is worth a lot. Anyone proposing to change to a word that doesn't have that should be putting forward an estimate of the necessary costs and time necessary to effectively SEO another name.

[pt7]

BBR devs seem to have no problem disrespecting the BBR community by not even having an option to keep the name Boolberry.

+1
Silent partner here, sitting on a considerable stash of BBR. The unilateral decision making here is appalling. CZ, listen to your community and set up a real vote, please!

Ponder this for a sec: Boolberry works well because it googles perfectly. Page after page of references to the coin, and nothing else. It doesn't even get autocorrected to Boo Berry. When newbies hear about 'Vortex' it's gonna be no fun finding that needle in the haystack of information on vortices.

How about Ripple, Stellar, or Quark?  The do not google well but are in top 20.
BTW: You do not seem to be a silent partner for DRK.   

[smooth]

BBR devs seem to have no problem disrespecting the BBR community by not even having an option to keep the name Boolberry.

+1
Silent partner here, sitting on a considerable stash of BBR. The unilateral decision making here is appalling. CZ, listen to your community and set up a real vote, please!

Ponder this for a sec: Boolberry works well because it googles perfectly. Page after page of references to the coin, and nothing else. It doesn't even get autocorrected to Boo Berry. When newbies hear about 'Vortex' it's gonna be no fun finding that needle in the haystack of information on vortices.

How about Ripple, Stellar, or Quark?  The do not google well but are in top 20.

Ripple and Stellar are VC- or corporate-funded startups with large budgets for marketing and PR. Quark is a shitcoin that happened to get pumped once and hasn't quite finished its slow decline to zero yet (but almost there relatively speaking), so who cares about it?

[HinnomTX]

BBR devs seem to have no problem disrespecting the BBR community by not even having an option to keep the name Boolberry.

+1
Silent partner here, sitting on a considerable stash of BBR. The unilateral decision making here is appalling. CZ, listen to your community and set up a real vote, please!

Ponder this for a sec: Boolberry works well because it googles perfectly. Page after page of references to the coin, and nothing else. It doesn't even get autocorrected to Boo Berry. When newbies hear about 'Vortex' it's gonna be no fun finding that needle in the haystack of information on vortices.

How about Ripple, Stellar, or Quark?  The do not google well but are in top 20.
BTW: You do not seem to be a silent partner for DRK.   

Yes, I'm a silent partner for many cryptos, and cannot follow them everyday. I dedicate some time to DRK's testnet because DRK is serious coin. I invest in competent developers, not the brand. Honeypenny and Boolbery have never been strong names, but I know innovation when I see it.

I will continue to support BBR regardless of the name, but I have to break silence when I see the community being coerced unfairly into new branding. I had to point out the search engine angle. Choose a bad name and it will be another uphill battle to get the recognition deserved here.

[Anotheranonlol]

Agree fully with comments by HinnomTX and smooth.

Personally originally I had hated boolberry for it's silly and playful connotations. Marginally better than honeypenny but seemingly not chosen by a native speaker, my choice was keccash (mispronounced) as a replacement- 2 syllables, reflects cash properties, reference to underlying pow algo etc, unique, domains available etc, it's not amazing either really

however in the meantime BBR name has grown on me lot more than expected, think few others had said the same- There are thousands of Xcoins and Ycoins but only one boolberry.  

As mentioned by others there have been in the past things perceived as 'childish' name for non-childish projects such as yahoo or google. Of course, to 'google' something is now a commonly accepted verb

Boolberry can be referred to easily by the short ticker BBR - it's not a mouthful-  the fact it's a unique term not previously associated with any project, with boolberry.com, boolberry.org domains available as mentioned is not insignificant. It will be a battle to associate a vague term with this project exclusively, we do not have the same level of resources and fat wallets to throw at marketing as ripple labs.

I don't think it's important to spend too much energy on the name at this point, it would of been best before the coin launched as finding consensus now will be tricky. But do think a rebrand might be interesting- even if only to put the moaning about the kiddy name which has been heard on a number of occasions to rest finally. RUNE in letters at the top of a wallet certainly feels a lot more cypherpunk than BoolBerry

Maybe community will naturally adopt the term they like most and run with it. regardless of what official name is - whether that is BBR, XRN, XRU etc

[devphp]

+1 for keeping it Boolberry.

[damashup]

My advice to CZ (for what it's worth), is to go with YOUR instinct on the name.

Everyone will have an opinion on why the name should be kept or changed or why X name will attract more/ less investors.

Truth is it's all academic.

It's disruptive technology. Call it want you want, provided the technology stands up, the name will be synonymous with the disruption it causes.

[Hotmetal]

+1 For keeping the name. Focus effort on new features instead.. BBR's (or BB's for short - pronouced Bee-Bee-s), is a great way to talk about the coin.

[Hotmetal]

My advice to CZ (for what it's worth), is to go with YOUR instinct on the name.

Everyone will have an opinion on why the name should be kept or changed or why X name will attract more/ less investors.

Truth is it's all academic.

It's disruptive technology. Call it want you want, provided the technology stands up, the name will be synonymous with the disruption it causes.

Brand changing is known to kill.

[smooth]

My advice to CZ (for what it's worth), is to go with YOUR instinct on the name.

Everyone will have an opinion on why the name should be kept or changed or why X name will attract more/ less investors.

Truth is it's all academic.

It's disruptive technology. Call it want you want, provided the technology stands up, the name will be synonymous with the disruption it causes.

Brand changing is known to kill.

Let's not go overboard here. I don't think any of the proposed name changes are going to kill anything. I do think that a "vote" that prevents a fairly widely-held point of view from even being expressed at all will put some people off, even more so than the dev team just deciding on their own to change the name. It seems manipulative and phony.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hong+kong+election

[damashup]

My advice to CZ (for what it's worth), is to go with YOUR instinct on the name.

Everyone will have an opinion on why the name should be kept or changed or why X name will attract more/ less investors.

Truth is it's all academic.

It's disruptive technology. Call it want you want, provided the technology stands up, the name will be synonymous with the disruption it causes.

Brand changing is known to kill.

Let's not go overboard here. I don't think any of the proposed name changes are going to kill anything. I do think that a "vote" that prevents a fairly widely-held point of view from even being expressed at all will put some people off, even more so than the dev team just deciding on their own to change the name. It seems manipulative and phony.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hong+kong+election

This view is equally OTT.

Dev team is entitled to change the name. It seems to me this 'vote' is more of a consultation exercise on a choice of 3 new names that they're mulling over.

Anyone 'put off' because BBR is off the table, would be as shortsighted as those that 'couldn't bring themselves to invest in a coin called Boolberry.'

'Manipulative' and 'phony' are strong words and out of context with what is happening here..

[smooth]

This view is equally OTT.

Dev team is entitled to change the name. It seems to me this 'vote' is more of a consultation exercise on a choice of 3 new names that they're mulling over.

I don't agree. As I said, they could run a poll, or a consultive exercise, or just pick a new name on their own, but they're not doing any of that. They're describing it as a vote, and I think in one place it was said that the result of the vote would definitely be used. If you're going to decide by vote then make it a real vote where people who want to express their opinion can actually do so.

Sorry, but a fake vote where your only choices are approved by those with the real power is exactly what is happening in Hong Kong.

[S3MKi]

+1 for keeping it Boolberry.

[OrientA]

+1 for keeping it Boolberry.

Boolberry is a good name to keep the coin low profile.

[damashup]

This view is equally OTT.

Dev team is entitled to change the name. It seems to me this 'vote' is more of a consultation exercise on a choice of 3 new names that they're mulling over.

I don't agree. As I said, they could run a poll, or a consultive exercise, or just pick a new name on their own, but they're not doing any of that. They're describing it as a vote, and I think in one place it was said that the result of the vote would definitely be used. If you're going to decide by vote then make it a real vote where people who want to express their opinion can actually do so.

Sorry, but a fake vote where your only choices are approved by those with the real power is exactly what is happening in Hong Kong.

To me it seems like they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.

• (1) Keep the name - people have complained it's too childish to invest in (be interested to see how many of these start investing/ supporting after name change, or whether it was a convenient excuse).
• (2) Pick new name themselves - people would complain about not being consulted.
• (3) Vote (from shortlist) - people complaining about lack of choice.
• (4) Vote (no shortlist) - people would complain about lack of direction and leadership.

I think its transparent from the Voting thread, that the re-naming is part of a bigger re-branding exercise. These are the names that the dev teams feel they can most readily market and promote. They're giving the community a say on the three.

Analogues with national elections are way off the mark.

I don't see the big deal in the renaming nor in the process.