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September 22, 2014, 06:13:44 PM |
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I'm sorry to interrupt the current discussion but I have a technical question regarding Boolberry/Rune or whatever it's going to be called.
Is there a method for changing wallet passwords? Or do I need to create a new wallet and transfer the coins? If I have an alias attached to the wallet I want to change the password on is there a way to transfer that to the new wallet if that is what I need to do to change the password?
Thanks
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clintar
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September 22, 2014, 06:44:21 PM |
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I agree it seems one sided, and slapper is way too abrasive. I don't want to speak for zoidberg, but it may be because you two have been way overboard for a while, though, that he feels he should step in. We get it already. You don't like the name or dungeons and dragons. It's just gone to the point where it's past discussion and only constant complaints. At this point, the wheels are in motion. It 's probably better to see what transpires with the name.
You don't get it already. I like D&D and get along splendidly with all manner of sci-fi neckbeards, ghey cosplay/furry freaks, pagans, Wiccans, etc. I often go to Burning Man and have a great time with all manner of people sporting rune tattoos/scars/body paint. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Aw, what a waste. I made sure to shave my neck this morning so that I would feel right when posting in here. Really, that was just a little fun poking. I wasn't serious about the d&d bit. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) However, those associations in the form of "Rune" offer no comparative advantage to our status quo Boolberry brand, and the rebrand has demonstrably fractured the community. How much social capital and goodwill are you willing to sacrifice to get your way? 2/3 of it? All of it? Good luck with that.
As for sussex and I posting too much, sorry but that's how a discussion works. We're exploring a topic and developing/responding to arguments, not just posting the same thing repetitively.
Well, it does come off that way at least to me when viewing the page. Sorry, I shouldn't have poked my head in probably. On topic, I also like the original name, but see why the need to change. I'm excited to see what branding comes from it. If it's professional, any association with the underworld/neckbeardverse will be overlooked I'd hope. Have we had confirmation that Rune is the name from cz? Maybe he'll pull a switcharoo on everyone name it something completely different and piss everyone off, heh. (Hint: cezium)
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September 22, 2014, 07:04:11 PM |
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I like how zoidberg reprimands sussex but doesn't even mention slapper. Such moderation! Much civilized discussion.
Yes that is total bullshit. sussex has contributed thoughtful and well written content to the discussion. slapper is instigating flame wars by raging and cussing people out. Why does CZ want to run off sussex, while giving slapper free reign? Not cool, CZ. Please change the OP to say 'Rune' instead of Boolberry so we can be done with it. Let it go please. I have offered my apologies and would really really hate to see sussex or anyone else for that matter leave due to a possible misunderstanding. I don't know why you guys are rooting for CZ to whip me around too, it's tough enough with the boss at home. Good things are coming to this coin. Let's go BBR.
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September 22, 2014, 07:05:51 PM |
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I like how zoidberg reprimands sussex but doesn't even mention slapper. Such moderation! Much civilized discussion.
Yes that is total bullshit. sussex has contributed thoughtful and well written content to the discussion. slapper is instigating flame wars by raging and cussing people out. Why does CZ want to run off sussex, while giving slapper free reign? Not cool, CZ. Please change the OP to say 'Rune' instead of Boolberry so we can be done with it. I agree it seems one sided, and slapper is way too abrasive. I don't want to speak for zoidberg, but it may be because you two have been way overboard for a while, though, that he feels he should step in. We get it already. You don't like the name or dungeons and dragons. It's just gone to the point where it's past discussion and only constant complaints. At this point, the wheels are in motion. It 's probably better to see what transpires with the name. But really, nobody liked cezium? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I liked Cezium, and didn't care for the poll, just because all the names sucked in my opinion, and I choose Boolberry for lack of choice.
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September 22, 2014, 08:29:43 PM |
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I think it is clear that we do need to achieve community consensus on this issue.
Clearly "Boolberry" has a lot more support than all the detractors from the name have claimed. The prospect of losing this name has brought out a lot of emotion.
Rune is avoiding the problems of the Boolberry name
I like the Ciphers as a way to avoid the silliness attacks against the Boolberry name, but I want to keep BBR, so my suggestion is "BBR Ciphers" where the BBR is just BBR and this allows continued usage of BBR so there wont be any big changes from the trading side. Also, people can still think of it as Boolberry Ciphers.
I suggest we hold a vote, but agree to abide by CZ's decision. It is his coin and I think ultimately he can call it whatever he wants to, but having an indication of what the community wants is important.
In the past where important things are being voted on, the sockpuppet issue arises. There are all these polls, but how can anybody really believe them?
So, my solution is voting by post. Somebody will need to tally all the posts and make a summary list (handle + name) and this allows CZ (and everybody) to give proper weight to the votes cast.
We need a volunteer to keep track of the votes. My vote is for "BBR ciphers"
James
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September 22, 2014, 08:37:34 PM |
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I think it is clear that we do need to achieve community consensus on this issue.
Clearly "Boolberry" has a lot more support than all the detractors from the name have claimed.
I suggest we hold a vote
We need a volunteer to keep track of the votes. My vote is for "BBR ciphers"
We already had a vote. BBR beat Rune 2:1. The excuse for ignoring that vote is that sockpuppets voted. Should we only allow Senior+ members to vote? I think an auction to to raise dev funds would most clearly establish who has renaming rights. Money talks; biggest BBR benefactor wins and we have to listen.
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September 22, 2014, 08:44:08 PM |
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I think it is clear that we do need to achieve community consensus on this issue.
Clearly "Boolberry" has a lot more support than all the detractors from the name have claimed. The prospect of losing this name has brought out a lot of emotion.
Rune is avoiding the problems of the Boolberry name
I like the Ciphers as a way to avoid the silliness attacks against the Boolberry name, but I want to keep BBR, so my suggestion is "BBR Ciphers" where the BBR is just BBR and this allows continued usage of BBR so there wont be any big changes from the trading side. Also, people can still think of it as Boolberry Ciphers.
I suggest we hold a vote, but agree to abide by CZ's decision. It is his coin and I think ultimately he can call it whatever he wants to, but having an indication of what the community wants is important.
In the past where important things are being voted on, the sockpuppet issue arises. There are all these polls, but how can anybody really believe them?
So, my solution is voting by post. Somebody will need to tally all the posts and make a summary list (handle + name) and this allows CZ (and everybody) to give proper weight to the votes cast.
We need a volunteer to keep track of the votes. My vote is for "BBR ciphers"
James
The first sane thing I've heard during this whole name debacle. I to like the name BBR ciphers. It doesn't sound stupid, it has the sound of legitimacy to it.
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September 22, 2014, 08:45:52 PM |
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I think it is clear that we do need to achieve community consensus on this issue.
Clearly "Boolberry" has a lot more support than all the detractors from the name have claimed.
I suggest we hold a vote
We need a volunteer to keep track of the votes. My vote is for "BBR ciphers"
We already had a vote. BBR beat Rune 2:1. The excuse for ignoring that vote is that sockpuppets voted. Should we only allow Senior+ members to vote? I think an auction to to raise dev funds would most clearly establish who has renaming rights. Money talks; biggest BBR benefactor wins and we have to listen. As I am sure many others would feel, that poll was rigged. I didn't like any of the names, and the choices weren't voted on, they were stuck in their with the expectations that Boolberry and Rune where the only real choices.
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September 22, 2014, 08:57:10 PM Last edit: September 22, 2014, 09:12:43 PM by darlidada |
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Flooz> Boolberry > Ciphers > >>>>>>>>>>> Rune Can't understand how CZ like Rune. It's like the total opposite of the boolberry name. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Even from a SEO perspective its terrible : there already are runescape, runecoins and other rune gay metal stuff that i wish i had never heard about. Please explain rationale for choosing runes when most dont like it and when this already exists : https://www.google.fr/#q=runecoinsThe only way I can make sense out of it is if you are either stupid or you want to kill all CZ efforts. Also, read this: "Personally love boolberry. I dont think the name reflects what the coin does, but that's why I love it. It is almost like a cover for what it is. Can you imagine law enforcement having to hold press conferences about fighting the outbreak of boolberry use?" Doesnt that put a smile on your face? Can't believe i was figting CZ for rebranding and now I've to do the reverse because you guys have no taste at all. I'm sure you think darkcoin is the best name. Woow so DARK such STEALTH mega CLOAK many SHADOW hmmm ANON.
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September 22, 2014, 09:11:47 PM |
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CZ can you stop this spamming about the name and decide?
We are losing time and dividing community - after one week we got nowhere: 66% wants BBR, 33% wants RUNE. BBR is great name, everyone was opposed at first, but after a few weeks you get to like it. windy (the marketing guy) just came on board recently and hasn't got through incubation period yet, in a few weeks he will get infected and then he will regret name change.
We can have honest vote or you CZ act as benevolent dictator and cut the Gordian knot - both is perfectly fine as it is you who dedicated a lot of time and energy. Just decide alredy.
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September 22, 2014, 09:13:55 PM |
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CZ can you stop this spamming about the name and decide?
We are losing time and dividing community - after one week we got nowhere: 66% wants BBR, 33% wants RUNE. BBR is great name, everyone was opposed at first, but after a few weeks you get to like it. windy (the marketing guy) just came on board recently and hasn't got through incubation period yet, in a few weeks he will get infected and then he will regret name change.
We can have honest vote or you CZ act as benevolent dictator and cut the Gordian knot - both is perfectly fine as it is you who dedicated a lot of time and energy. Just decide alredy.
+9999999999999 very good point about the incubation period.
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September 22, 2014, 09:17:43 PM Last edit: September 22, 2014, 09:45:50 PM by sonoIO |
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Boolberry > BBR Cipher(s) > BazaarNote > Bazaarune > Rune EDIT1: Not exactly my preferred order but i'm just hoping we converge soon. EDIT2: Fck, me like Konko! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This will never end ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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September 22, 2014, 09:26:05 PM |
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I suggest we hold a vote, but agree to abide by CZ's decision. It is his coin and I think ultimately he can call it whatever he wants to, but having an indication of what the community wants is important.
+1 to this. I vote Boolberry. But will back whatever CZ decides.
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September 22, 2014, 09:39:04 PM |
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If you guys want a name with a deep meaning, you may be interested in names deriving from "shells" because according to Nick Szabo Origin of money paper, it is shells that were used as money at the beginning. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F83192094d3a605362341e576394455c5.png&t=665&c=P2OXvpMMy5k6Bg) source: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/shell.htmlIn esperanto, "Konko" means shells.
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September 22, 2014, 09:45:14 PM |
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Flooz> Boolberry > Ciphers > >>>>>>>>>>> Rune
Can't understand how CZ like Rune. It's like the total opposite of the boolberry name. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Even from a SEO perspective its terrible : there already are runescape, runecoins and other rune gay metal stuff that i wish i had never heard about.
Also, read this:
"Personally love boolberry. I dont think the name reflects what the coin does, but that's why I love it. It is almost like a cover for what it is. Can you imagine law enforcement having to hold press conferences about fighting the outbreak of boolberry use?"
The part in red is very true. But Flooz is the name of a notorious fake internet money startup from the dotcom bubble. Let's not go there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flooz.com
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September 22, 2014, 09:51:33 PM |
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I think it is clear that we do need to achieve community consensus on this issue.
Clearly "Boolberry" has a lot more support than all the detractors from the name have claimed.
I suggest we hold a vote
We need a volunteer to keep track of the votes. My vote is for "BBR ciphers"
We already had a vote. BBR beat Rune 2:1. The excuse for ignoring that vote is that sockpuppets voted. Should we only allow Senior+ members to vote? I think an auction to to raise dev funds would most clearly establish who has renaming rights. Money talks; biggest BBR benefactor wins and we have to listen. I am working on fund raising, but I need a community consensus on the name first anybody can vote it is just an open vote you have a problem with this?
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September 22, 2014, 09:53:02 PM |
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I think Boolberry is a terrible name. People here already are not the right people to judge whether Boolberry is a marketable name or not, because it's easy to get used to anything, but for new people it'll take a lot to overcome the initial aversion to using such a cartoonish name for their money. Probably Boolberry would be much higher on marketcap now with a better name. I imagine most people came to here in spite of the name rather than because of it and then maybe came of like it. But making people think twice/three/ a dozen times before even considering the coin because of the name will be a rock around its neck for a long time holding it back unless it is changed now.
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September 22, 2014, 09:57:23 PM |
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I am working on fund raising, but I need a community consensus on the name first anybody can vote it is just an open vote you have a problem with this?
I'd prefer to exclude new accounts/sockpuppets from voting, or charge 1 BBR per vote. But an open vote is fine too, as long as we are allowed to choose BBR. Thanks for taking care of it! The sooner we get back on track the better. Big day tomorrow! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 22, 2014, 10:04:53 PM |
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I think Boolberry is a terrible name. People here already are not the right people to judge whether Boolberry is a marketable name or not, because it's easy to get used to anything, but for new people it'll take a lot to overcome the initial aversion to using such a cartoonish name for their money. Probably Boolberry would be much higher on marketcap now with a better name. I imagine most people came to here in spite of the name rather than because of it and then maybe came of like it. But making people think twice/three/ a dozen times before even considering the coin because of the name will be a rock around its neck for a long time holding it back unless it is changed now.
I think it is quite the opposite, it may put down some ppl in the start but it is not a problem for the long time holding. Some do need incubation period with it, and that fact was used as a FUD against it, that is true
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September 22, 2014, 10:09:43 PM |
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I think Boolberry is a terrible name. People here already are not the right people to judge whether Boolberry is a marketable name or not, because it's easy to get used to anything, but for new people it'll take a lot to overcome the initial aversion to using such a cartoonish name for their money. Probably Boolberry would be much higher on marketcap now with a better name. I imagine most people came to here in spite of the name rather than because of it and then maybe came of like it. But making people think twice/three/ a dozen times before even considering the coin because of the name will be a rock around its neck for a long time holding it back unless it is changed now.
I think it is quite the opposite, it may put down some ppl in the start but it is not a problem for the long time holding. Some do need incubation period with it, and that fact was used as a FUD against it, that is true How is that the opposite. I'm saying that it turns off new users, but it doesn't matter once you are already a holder, which you seem to agree with. Makes it terrible for marketing to new users.
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