Eastwind
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October 30, 2014, 11:32:22 AM |
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When I send out coin, there are dusts sometimes. How are they determined, where do they go?
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tifozi
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October 30, 2014, 05:10:31 PM |
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Wow, thanks damashup, is this something you developed? I see that this goes back a few months too. Good tool to research (if you have time) some of the background "marketing" behind a lot of coins including XMR, BBR, XDN etc
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shojayxt
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October 30, 2014, 05:12:08 PM |
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Wow, thanks damashup, is this something you developed? I see that this goes back a few months too. Good tool to research (if you have time) some of the background "marketing" behind a lot of coins including XMR, BBR, XDN etc Watch what you say on that polo troll box
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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October 30, 2014, 05:22:28 PM |
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When I send out coin, there are dusts sometimes. How are they determined, where do they go?
Dust outs attached to fee. Finally this all fees joined together and transfered to miner in coinbase (this made to remove dust from uto), but this is soft ruke, default behaviour in wallet. Zoiderg
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damashup
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October 30, 2014, 06:15:03 PM Last edit: October 30, 2014, 06:25:15 PM by damashup |
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Wow, thanks damashup, is this something you developed? I see that this goes back a few months too. Good tool to research (if you have time) some of the background "marketing" behind a lot of coins including XMR, BBR, XDN etc You're welcome. I didn't develop it no. Stumbled across it today and remembered your comment. Thought it might help shed some light on my comments of a few weeks ago.
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Oscilson
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October 30, 2014, 09:03:48 PM |
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When I send out coin, there are dusts sometimes. How are they determined, where do they go?
Dust outs attached to fee. Finally this all fees joined together and transfered to miner in coinbase (this made to remove dust from uto), but this is soft ruke, default behaviour in wallet. Zoiderg Is the policy of dust same for XMR and BBR? What is the actual rule?
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October 30, 2014, 09:57:20 PM |
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When I send out coin, there are dusts sometimes. How are they determined, where do they go?
Dust outs attached to fee. Finally this all fees joined together and transfered to miner in coinbase (this made to remove dust from uto), but this is soft ruke, default behaviour in wallet. Zoiderg Is the policy of dust same for XMR and BBR? What is the actual rule? Monero does the same with dust that Zoidberg described. I don't know the exact rule but you can certainly find it in the wallet code in github.
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crypto_zoidberg (OP)
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October 30, 2014, 10:28:02 PM |
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When I send out coin, there are dusts sometimes. How are they determined, where do they go?
Dust outs attached to fee. Finally this all fees joined together and transfered to miner in coinbase (this made to remove dust from uto), but this is soft ruke, default behaviour in wallet. Zoiderg Is the policy of dust same for XMR and BBR? What is the actual rule? The actual rule is that when constructing outputs the amounts smaller than fee is supposed as dust. Also originally was more complicated algo for collecting outputs for new transaction, "select_transfers", that was also manualy included some dust outs into tx, but soon after release i changed this to better and simplier algo. You better to take a look into tx_dust_policy and digit_split_strategy in sources. But may be i got you wront, can you clarify your situation with more details ? (may into pm, or here - up to you) Zoidberg
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November 01, 2014, 07:56:21 AM |
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LOL
Seems due to the recent fall in price, the difficulty is very low and coin is very profitable to mine again.
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adaseb
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November 01, 2014, 08:01:33 AM |
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I think this coin might be forked. Why is it that all the hashrate is at cncoin farm???
I tried looking for another pool but can't find any. Seems like they have like 110% of the hashrate right now.
SOmething isn't right here.
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November 01, 2014, 08:16:48 AM |
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I think this coin might be forked. Why is it that all the hashrate is at cncoin farm???
I tried looking for another pool but can't find any. Seems like they have like 110% of the hashrate right now.
SOmething isn't right here.
http://bbr.geilidao.com//http://cncoin.farm/ top one is .7 Gh, bottom one is 1.46Gh Other pools are ~.01 Gh and below. Net hash from the top two pools combined = 2.16 Gh, yet net reported by both is 1.57 Gh So either the reporting mechanism for the pools is off, or someones got a hell of a duplicate share bug and it's skewing the hashrate of one of the pools. Prob just a bad net hash calculator. Minergate/chainradar also say 1.46 Gh Maybe ask the pool ops?
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November 01, 2014, 08:37:33 AM |
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I think this coin might be forked. Why is it that all the hashrate is at cncoin farm???
I tried looking for another pool but can't find any. Seems like they have like 110% of the hashrate right now.
SOmething isn't right here.
http://bbr.geilidao.com//http://cncoin.farm/ top one is .7 Gh, bottom one is 1.46Gh Other pools are ~.01 Gh and below. Net hash from the top two pools combined = 2.16 Gh, yet net reported by both is 1.57 Gh So either the reporting mechanism for the pools is off, or someones got a hell of a duplicate share bug and it's skewing the hashrate of one of the pools. Prob just a bad net hash calculator. Minergate/chainradar also say 1.46 Gh Maybe ask the pool ops? It's probably just variance as the nethash calculations are just based on the timing between blocks and are just an estimate.
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November 01, 2014, 08:43:18 AM |
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It's probably just variance as the nethash calculations are just based on the timing between blocks and are just an estimate.
Hadn't considered that. Doesn't it take like 24 hours or so for the net hash/difficulty to catch up w/ the actual hash rate? Is all this hash rate new? Edit: I love the charts on the website. Seems like the good doctor has picked up the interest of a large friend, looking at the chart, you're correct, we're dealing with both variance and a surge in hashrate within the last day: http://boolberry.com/state.htmlHope they're looking to hold!
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And it's only at the end of fall, that we discover it was naught but the wind that knew when one particular leaf was to fall from one particular tree, only to land in one distinct spot .. to be left for an eternity, and waste its time in a wait sublime. C0A2A1C4
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November 01, 2014, 10:02:44 AM |
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It's probably just variance as the nethash calculations are just based on the timing between blocks and are just an estimate.
Hadn't considered that. Doesn't it take like 24 hours or so for the net hash/difficulty to catch up w/ the actual hash rate? Is all this hash rate new? Edit: I love the charts on the website. Seems like the good doctor has picked up the interest of a large friend, looking at the chart, you're correct, we're dealing with both variance and a surge in hashrate within the last day: http://boolberry.com/state.htmlHope they're looking to hold! I'm not so sure it's just variance. I wrote a script for monero that xnbya runs with some modifications here ( http://minexmr.com/pools.html ), and in my experience it's not sometimes, it is all the time that the sum of the known pools hashrates adds up to be 20-33% larger than the hashrate calculated from the diff. I think the diff is based on last 24 hours, and the pools base their hashrate on the diff of blocks over the last 10 or 30 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but if it was just variance in the hashrate, then at some point the calculated network hashrate would be higher than the sum of the pools (since this isn't even including unknown/private pools and solo miners), but in my experience this is never true - the sum of the known pools is always greater than the calculated network hashrate. I don't know why this would be, just an observation from monero that also seems to hold true for boolberry and bytecoin.
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November 01, 2014, 03:26:19 PM |
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I'm not so sure it's just variance. I wrote a script for monero that xnbya runs with some modifications here ( http://minexmr.com/pools.html ), and in my experience it's not sometimes, it is all the time that the sum of the known pools hashrates adds up to be 20-33% larger than the hashrate calculated from the diff. I think the diff is based on last 24 hours, and the pools base their hashrate on the diff of blocks over the last 10 or 30 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but if it was just variance in the hashrate, then at some point the calculated network hashrate would be higher than the sum of the pools (since this isn't even including unknown/private pools and solo miners), but in my experience this is never true - the sum of the known pools is always greater than the calculated network hashrate. I don't know why this would be, just an observation from monero that also seems to hold true for boolberry and bytecoin. If it is consistently true and doesn't swing the other direction as well, then the pools are overstating their hash rate. Simple as that.
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November 01, 2014, 03:36:07 PM |
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I'm not so sure it's just variance. I wrote a script for monero that xnbya runs with some modifications here ( http://minexmr.com/pools.html ), and in my experience it's not sometimes, it is all the time that the sum of the known pools hashrates adds up to be 20-33% larger than the hashrate calculated from the diff. I think the diff is based on last 24 hours, and the pools base their hashrate on the diff of blocks over the last 10 or 30 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but if it was just variance in the hashrate, then at some point the calculated network hashrate would be higher than the sum of the pools (since this isn't even including unknown/private pools and solo miners), but in my experience this is never true - the sum of the known pools is always greater than the calculated network hashrate. I don't know why this would be, just an observation from monero that also seems to hold true for boolberry and bytecoin. If it is consistently true and doesn't swing the other direction as well, then the pools are overstating their hash rate. Simple as that. That seems reasonable. Maybe not anything malicious, but just a bug in the node pool software perhaps?
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November 01, 2014, 03:46:38 PM |
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I'm not so sure it's just variance. I wrote a script for monero that xnbya runs with some modifications here ( http://minexmr.com/pools.html ), and in my experience it's not sometimes, it is all the time that the sum of the known pools hashrates adds up to be 20-33% larger than the hashrate calculated from the diff. I think the diff is based on last 24 hours, and the pools base their hashrate on the diff of blocks over the last 10 or 30 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but if it was just variance in the hashrate, then at some point the calculated network hashrate would be higher than the sum of the pools (since this isn't even including unknown/private pools and solo miners), but in my experience this is never true - the sum of the known pools is always greater than the calculated network hashrate. I don't know why this would be, just an observation from monero that also seems to hold true for boolberry and bytecoin. If it is consistently true and doesn't swing the other direction as well, then the pools are overstating their hash rate. Simple as that. That seems reasonable. Maybe not anything malicious, but just a bug in the node pool software perhaps? Could this be the problem reported by monero.crypto-pool.fr where malicious miners are sending in some real shares followed by many fake shares all at once?
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November 01, 2014, 05:20:09 PM |
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Yes i made a mistake. But I am surprised that everybody is on that one pool.
I keep getting disconnects from that pool and would switch but no other decent pool out there.
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November 01, 2014, 09:20:57 PM |
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Yes i made a mistake. But I am surprised that everybody is on that one pool.
I keep getting disconnects from that pool and would switch but no other decent pool out there.
Not really true. I have have using bbr.poolto.be the past week with good results, in doing my small part to divert some hashes from cncoin.
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