Bitcoin Forum
November 18, 2024, 03:03:53 PM *
News: Check out the artwork 1Dq created to commemorate this forum's 15th anniversary
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 ... 2127 »
  Print  
Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670999 times)
monero (OP)
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 54
Merit: 257


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:38:50 AM
Last edit: January 04, 2017, 04:51:23 PM by monero
Merited by notbatman (50), BlackHatCoiner (50), ABCbits (48), LoyceV (42), Patel (11), NeuroticFish (10), phishead (10), suchmoon (7), rifiuti (6), Lutpin (5), dragonvslinux (4), actmyname (3), EFS (2), OgNasty (1), DireWolfM14 (1), klintay (1), Eddyc (1), hybridsole (1), paid2 (1), Financisto (1), thenextking (1), safexscam (1)
 #1

››› Windows 64-bitOS XLinuxFreeBSD •  Source code ‹‹‹

We are moving away from Bitcointalk. For latest information, check out News, announcements and editorials on the official forum


Website: getmonero.org
Official Forum: forum.getmonero.org

Monero Economy  •  Monero Support* •  Monero Mining  •  Monero Speculation*  •  Monero Dev*  •  Monero large OTC
* self-moderated

#monero  •  #monero-dev  •  #monero-otc  •  #monero-markets  •  #monero-pools  •  QQ Group: 272729907
(Freenode)



Monero (XMR) is a privacy-focused cryptocurrency that is not based on Bitcoin's code.

Monero aims to be a fungible and untraceable digital medium of exchange. It intrinsically has a higher degree of privacy than Bitcoin or any of its various forks. It was launched on April 18, 2014 (preannounced and no premine/ICO/etc.).

The official core team members are (in no particular order) - Riccardo "fluffypony" Spagni, luigi1111, NoodleDoodle, smooth, tacotime, Franciso "ArticMine" Cabañas, othe

Announcements
Please visit News, announcements and editorials on the Monero Forum for the latest news.
Visit our StackExchange site, where you can ask, answer, and view technical questions!

Features

  • Untraceable payments
  • Unlinkable transactions
  • Blockchain analysis resistance
  • Adaptive parameters

Academic and Theory

Monero's functionality is backed up by academic research and cryptographically proven schemes. Much of this research is done by the Monero Research Lab. Since Monero was initially based on the CryptoNote protocol, the CryptoNote whitepaper is also an invaluable reference for validating Monero's unlinkability and untraceability claims.


Specifications

  • PoW algorithm: CryptoNight [1]
  • Max supply: Infinite (see note below) [2]
  • Block reward: Smoothly varying [3]
  • Block time: 120 seconds
  • Difficulty: Retargets at every block

[1] CPU + GPU mining (about 1:1 performance for now). Memory-bound by design using AES encryption and several SHA-3 candidates.
[2] Initial number of atomic units is M = 264 - 1. However, once the block reward reaches 0.3 XMR per minute (sometime in 2022) that is treated as the minimum subsidy, which means that Monero's total emission will forever increase by ~157680 XMR annually.
[3] Uses a recurrence relation. Block reward = (M - A) * 2-20 * 10-12, where A = current circulation. Roughly 86% mined in 4 years (see graph).


Official downloads and links

Getting Started - Follow the guide to set up the software and start mining.

Official forum

Source and binaries
Also see below for optional GUI.

Latest release: 0.10.1.0 Wolfram Warptangent


Donations for general development

XMR:
Code:
address (OpenAlias) donate.getmonero.org
address (full) 44AFFq5kSiGBoZ4NMDwYtN18obc8AemS33DBLWs3H7otXft3XjrpDtQGv7SqSsaBYBb98uNbr2VBBEt7f2wfn3RVGQBEP3A
viewkey: f359631075708155cc3d92a32b75a7d02a5dcf27756707b47a2b31b21c389501

BTC:
Code:
1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H

Monero Community Hall of Fame

Alternative Clients

Please visit: How to choose a Monero client

Miners

Blockchain explorer


Exchanges, Services, and Related Projects

Please visit Merchants and services directory

Pools

For an up-to-date list of pools, go to http://moneropools.com

FAQ
For a longer FAQ, check Community FAQ

What is CryptoNote?
CryptoNote is the technology that allows creation of privacy-centric cryptocurrencies. You can visit their website here. The level of anonymity provided by CryptoNote isn't possible with Bitcoin code base by design. Bytecoin (BCN) was the CryptoNote reference implementation, and XMR is based on BCN's code.

Two of the main features of CryptoNote are ring signatures that mask sender identities by mixing and one-time keys that make transactions unlinkable. Their combined effect gives a high degree of anonymity without any extra effort on the part of the user.

Unlike Bitcoin, your funds are not held in the address you give out to others. Instead, every time you receive a payment it goes to an unlinkable address generated with random numbers. When you decide to spend the funds in that one-time address, the amount will be broken down and the components will be indistinguishable from identical outputs in the blockchain.

For example if 556.44 XMR are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04 and a ring signature will be performed with other 500's, 50's, 6's, 0.4's, and 0.04's in the blockchain. Unlike the "CoinJoin" mixing method, CryptoNote mixes outputs not transactions. This means no other senders need to be participating with you at the same time or with the same amounts. Any arbitrary amount sent at any time can always be rendered fundamentally indistinguishable (a mathematical proof is given in the white paper).

The degree of anonymity is also a choice rather than decided by the protocol: do you want to be hidden as one among five or one among fifty? The size of the signature grows linearly as O(n+1) with the ambiguity so greater anonymity is paid for with higher fees to miners.

Ring signatures are explained below. Reproduced from CryptoNote:

A normal signature looks like this. There's only one participant, which allows one-to-one mapping.



A ring signature obscures identities because it only proves that a signer belongs to a group.



This allows a high level of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions. You can think of it as decentralized and trustless mixing.



How does this compare to other anonymous solutions?
Ring signatures originate from the work of Rivest et al. in 2001 and the implementation in CryptoNote relies in particular on Fujisaki and Suzuki's work on traceable ring signatures. There are two other anonymity implementations currently available or in development. One is ZeroCoin/ZeroCash's use of zero-knowledge proofs. The others are based on gmaxwell's CoinJoin idea (such as mixing services for Bitcoin or the altcoin Darkcoin).

1. Comparison with ZeroCoin and ZKP-based approaches:
You can read about ZeroCoin and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKP) here. The ZK environment allows an anonymity set that includes everyone in the network because the validity of an output can be proven without knowing the corresponding public key until it is spent. The largest risk is that this is recent research-level cryptography that hasn't been subjected to years of cryptanalysis, so exploits may emerge down the road. Ring signatures are much simpler and more mature, with many peer-reviewed papers published over more than a decade.

Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. It also obscures the entire economy, not just sender/receiver identities. If the ZK system is compromised, then an attacker can continuously spend coins that don't exist using false proofs. This damage is hidden from everybody due to total blinding and consequently at any given time it's not possible to know if the network has already been compromised. There is a tradeoff between these inherent risks and the maximal anonymity set provided by ZKP. CryptoNote aims for a different balance through the dual layers of privacy provided by one-time keys and ring signatures.

2. Comparison with CoinJoin-based approaches:
XMR is more qualitatively similar to mixing implementations like CoinJoin. The differences arise in the departure from the Bitcoin protocol, which allows XMR to use new cryptography to provide decentralized and trustless mixing of superior quality. The critical problem with mixing services is the need to trust the operators. As an example, blockchain.info's mixer gives the following disclaimer: "However if the server was compromised or under subpoena it could be force to keep logs. If this were to happen although you haven't gained any privacy you haven't lost any either."

The CoinJoin-inspired Darkcoin performs mixing with selected "masternodes" since it still uses ordinary signatures that can be mapped one-to-one. The motivation is that a randomly selected node is less likely than a single service to exhibit bad faith (such as keeping logs) . In practice, a few VPS companies host the vast majority of nodes and this approach relies on the integrity and good behavior of these nodes. XMR's more fundamental cryptographic approach doesn't have these vulnerabilities and the quality of anonymity is much higher.

XMR's ring signatures are also far more secure and convenient than CoinJoin because they mix outputs not transactions. This means a transaction doesn't involve waiting around for other senders to mix with. Nor is a user restricted to mixing only if others are sending the same amount. Arbitrary amounts can be sent at any time without anyone else's participation. This feature makes a timing analysis of the blockchain useless.

Overview of a transaction
Bob decides to spend an output, which was sent to the one-time public key. He needs Extra (1), TxOutNumber (2), and his Account private key (3) to recover his one-time private key (4).

When sending a transaction to Carol, Bob generates its Extra value by random (5). He uses Extra (6), TxOutNumber (7) and Carol's Account public key (8) to get her Output public key (9).

In the input Bob hides the link to his output among the foreign keys (10). To prevent double-spending he also packs the Key image, derived from his One-time private key (11).

Finally, Bob signs the transaction, using his One-time private key (12), all the public keys (13) and Key Image (14). He appends the resulting Ring Signature to the end of the transaction (15).



Translations

  中文  (QQ Group: 272729907)

  Pyccкий

  Português

  Français

  Español
MadCow
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 655
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:47:49 AM
 #2

Can you run Monero miner through TOR? If yes, what change would need to made to the bat file on the opening page? I'm using Windows.
thanks
sussex
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 658
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:50:32 AM
 #3

How many threads does this coin need?  Huh
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
 #4

How many threads does this coin need?  Huh

One in the right place, apparently  Grin

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
jdun
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:54:18 AM
 #5

I've never done CPU mining. Is it better to mine with the wallet, or to mine with a program like minerd?

YinCoin YangCoin ☯☯First Ever POS/POW Alternator! Multipool! ☯ ☯ http://yinyangpool.com/ Free Distribution! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:55:43 AM
 #6

I've never done CPU mining. Is it better to mine with the wallet, or to mine with a program like minerd?

Use wallet and Linux build instructions above

Additionally, this is a pain in the ass to install on anything but Ubuntu 13.10, so please install that particular distro.

With a Core i7 quad you will get 2-3 blocks per day right now.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:57:25 AM
 #7

Can you run Monero miner through TOR? If yes, what change would need to made to the bat file on the opening page? I'm using Windows.
thanks

See help for the daemon for info about port forwarding:
Code:
./bitmonerod --help
2014-Apr-24 20:54:57.041785 Starting...
bitmonero v0.8.5.294(0.1-g0fd82c9)

Allowed options:

Command line options:
  --help                                Produce help message
  --version                             Output version information
  --os-version
  --data-dir arg (=/home/mydesktop/.bitmonero)
                                        Specify data directory
  --config-file arg (=bitmonero.conf)   Specify configuration file

Command line options and settings options:
  --log-file arg
  --log-level arg (=0)
  --no-console                   Disable daemon console commands
  --rpc-bind-ip arg (=127.0.0.1)
  --rpc-bind-port arg (=18081)
  --p2p-bind-ip arg (=0.0.0.0)   Interface for p2p network protocol
  --p2p-bind-port arg (=18080)   Port for p2p network protocol
  --p2p-external-port arg (=0)   External port for p2p network protocol (if
                                 port forwarding used with NAT)
  --allow-local-ip               Allow local ip add to peer list, mostly in
                                 debug purposes
  --add-peer arg                 Manually add peer to local peerlist
  --add-priority-node arg        Specify list of peers to connect to and
                                 attempt to keep the connection open
  --seed-node arg                Connect to a node to retrieve peer addresses,
                                 and disconnect
  --hide-my-port                 Do not announce yourself as peerlist candidate
  --extra-messages-file arg      Specify file for extra messages to include
                                 into coinbase transactions
  --start-mining arg             Specify wallet address to mining for
  --mining-threads arg           Specify mining threads count

So you can bind the daemon and the RPC to other IPs/ports with the above command line arguments (p2p-bind and rpc-bind respectively)

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
surfer43
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 560
Merit: 250


"Trading Platform of The Future!"


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
 #8

Nice. Bytecoin is extremely confusing. https://bytecoin.org/ and http://bytecoin.biz/  Huh Huh
surfer43
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 560
Merit: 250


"Trading Platform of The Future!"


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:01:36 AM
 #9

Code:
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:78 (message):
  Boost version 1.54 is unsupported, more details are available here
  http://goo.gl/RrCFmA


-- Found Git: /usr/bin/git
-- Could NOT find Threads (missing:  Threads_FOUND)
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!

Ubuntu 14.04
grebec92
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 294
Merit: 250


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:03:23 AM
 #10

Cant sync
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:03:57 AM
 #11

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:78 (message):
  Boost version 1.54 is unsupported, more details are available here
  http://goo.gl/RrCFmA


-- Found Git: /usr/bin/git
-- Could NOT find Threads (missing:  Threads_FOUND)
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!

boost 1.54 isn't supported because it has a bug in it that breaks cryptonote coins.  you need to install 1.53 or 1.55.  ubuntu 13.10 has 1.53 as the default library, hence why it is recommended.

i highly suggest you just install ubuntu 13.10 alongside whatever your linux os is and mine with that, and if you want to use the wallet just run a vm.  it took me about 2 hours to get it up and running on 14.4.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:05:14 AM
 #12

Cant sync

in daemon type "set_log 1", you should see blocks downloading.  else type "exit" and restart the daemon.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
x0rcist
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:10:08 AM
 #13

Can you run Monero miner through TOR? If yes, what change would need to made to the bat file on the opening page? I'm using Windows.
thanks

As far as i know there is no proxy support? Can someone advice on this.
x0rcist
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 238
Merit: 100



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:12:41 AM
 #14

Nice. Bytecoin is extremely confusing. https://bytecoin.org/ and http://bytecoin.biz/  Huh Huh

This coin is based on Bytecoin.org, its not a BTC Clone. It was confusing for me also in the beginning Wink
Try to read up on the Bytecoin thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747
surfer43
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 560
Merit: 250


"Trading Platform of The Future!"


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:14:11 AM
 #15

Nice. Bytecoin is extremely confusing. https://bytecoin.org/ and http://bytecoin.biz/  Huh Huh

This coin is based on Bytecoin.org, its not a BTC Clone. It was confusing for me also in the beginning Wink
Try to read up on the Bytecoin thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747
I know, I was saying it is confusing to have two coins named the same thing.
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:15:37 AM
 #16

Can you run Monero miner through TOR? If yes, what change would need to made to the bat file on the opening page? I'm using Windows.
thanks

As far as i know there is no proxy support? Can someone advice on this.

you can bind other ips/ports as given above.  however, you should not use tor for mining as the latency is very high and you run the risk of your blocks being orphaned.  use a vpn/vps instead.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
Coodex
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 13
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:16:45 AM
 #17

Wallet:
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0

bitmonerod:

set_log 1 active and it downloading blocks, how long do I have to wait to refresh and/or start mining?
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:19:14 AM
 #18

Wallet:
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0

bitmonerod:

set_log 1 active and it downloading blocks, how long do I have to wait to refresh and/or start mining?

We are on block 10,000+, so give it a little while.

If you are on linux, you can use this blockchain.dat (put it in $HOME/.bitmonero)

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
Coodex
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 13
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:23:56 AM
 #19

Wallet:
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0

bitmonerod:

set_log 1 active and it downloading blocks, how long do I have to wait to refresh and/or start mining?

We are on block 10,000+, so give it a little while.

If you are on linux, you can use this blockchain.dat (put it in $HOME/.bitmonero)

HEIGHT = block number?
tacotime
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005



View Profile
April 25, 2014, 01:25:24 AM
 #20

Wallet:
Error: refresh failed: daemon is busy. Please try later. Blocks received: 0

bitmonerod:

set_log 1 active and it downloading blocks, how long do I have to wait to refresh and/or start mining?

We are on block 10,000+, so give it a little while.

If you are on linux, you can use this blockchain.dat (put it in $HOME/.bitmonero)

HEIGHT = block number?

correct

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 ... 2127 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!