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April 26, 2016, 01:16:46 PM
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There are many ways one could implement messaging, but I don't favor storing p2p messages on the blockchain itself.
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I haven't really looked into it, but I was under the impression that the messaging feature of duckdarkdigitalnote just used the mempool for transmitting the message, and then after a few days it fell out due to not enough fee or something (I thought you didn't have to pay a fee to message), kind of like bitmessage or something.

Nevermind, I just opened the wallet and you definitely have to pay a fee to send a message, so I guess it is stored in the blockchain.
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April 26, 2016, 02:56:54 PM
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There are many ways one could implement messaging, but I don't favor storing p2p messages on the blockchain itself.
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I haven't really looked into it, but I was under the impression that the messaging feature of duckdarkdigitalnote just used the mempool for transmitting the message, and then after a few days it fell out due to not enough fee or something (I thought you didn't have to pay a fee to message), kind of like bitmessage or something.

Nevermind, I just opened the wallet and you definitely have to pay a fee to send a message, so I guess it is stored in the blockchain.

Yeah it goes in the tx_extra field like the payment ID.
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April 26, 2016, 04:38:48 PM
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I cant wait to join you guys once monero hits 35 cents!
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April 26, 2016, 10:25:55 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4gkxox/mycelium_new_wallet_announcement/

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April 26, 2016, 11:43:15 PM
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There are many ways one could implement messaging, but I don't favor storing p2p messages on the blockchain itself.
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I haven't really looked into it, but I was under the impression that the messaging feature of duckdarkdigitalnote just used the mempool for transmitting the message, and then after a few days it fell out due to not enough fee or something (I thought you didn't have to pay a fee to message), kind of like bitmessage or something.

Nevermind, I just opened the wallet and you definitely have to pay a fee to send a message, so I guess it is stored in the blockchain.

Yeah it goes in the tx_extra field like the payment ID.


Do clients at the moment relay txs with no or too low fee, and miners just won't include them in a block? I'm guessing no, but just curious if it would be possible to communicate via mempool without including things in blocks.
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April 27, 2016, 12:25:02 AM
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There are many ways one could implement messaging, but I don't favor storing p2p messages on the blockchain itself.
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I haven't really looked into it, but I was under the impression that the messaging feature of duckdarkdigitalnote just used the mempool for transmitting the message, and then after a few days it fell out due to not enough fee or something (I thought you didn't have to pay a fee to message), kind of like bitmessage or something.

Nevermind, I just opened the wallet and you definitely have to pay a fee to send a message, so I guess it is stored in the blockchain.

Yeah it goes in the tx_extra field like the payment ID.


Do clients at the moment relay txs with no or too low fee, and miners just won't include them in a block? I'm guessing no, but just curious if it would be possible to communicate via mempool without including things in blocks.

No, in fact if one node sends such a transaction it will be disconnected and eventually banned.
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April 27, 2016, 11:54:09 AM
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I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ? Tongue
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April 27, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
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I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ? Tongue

Speculators be speculating! Plenty is going on, but I don't recall seeing the exchange rate caring much for activity.

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April 27, 2016, 01:48:26 PM
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I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ? Tongue

Probably because Dash got added to Btc-e and pornero not

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April 27, 2016, 02:14:43 PM
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Probably because Dash got added to Btc-e and pornero not
You here?  Shocked
Consider opening cryptonote pools?
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April 27, 2016, 02:16:12 PM
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Probably because Dash got added to Btc-e and pornero not
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No, I just couldn't resist Posting when I saw Dash on Btc-e after all that trolling Smiley

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April 27, 2016, 04:37:24 PM
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Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?
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April 27, 2016, 04:52:03 PM
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I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ? Tongue
not only monero other coins are going down too. it might be because of bitcoin price rise?
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April 27, 2016, 04:57:51 PM
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Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity. Smiley

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

All users have their own viewkey.
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April 27, 2016, 06:27:50 PM
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Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity. Smiley

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

All users have their own viewkey.

So the fund sender can uncover and identify the IP of the receiver by ViewKey?
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April 27, 2016, 07:48:58 PM
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AAAAA I see..Well I am a newbie so I was afraid Tongue .Well then I should not care too much since I just learnt about "pump and dump" thing.So now we have a big(not huge tho) dump.Well I will wait for price to go up Smiley ,so that I can sell my 160 moneros Smiley
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April 27, 2016, 09:46:22 PM
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Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity. Smiley

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

All users have their own viewkey.

So the fund sender can uncover and identify the IP of the receiver by ViewKey?

The viewkey is completely unrelated to any IP address identification.

If you are asking about the sender uncovering the receiver's address, then he already has it (he needs it to send funds in the first place). The receiver, on the other hand, cannot tell the sender's address, only that he received money from somewhere.
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April 27, 2016, 09:53:47 PM
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Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity. Smiley

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

All users have their own viewkey.

So the fund sender can uncover and identify the IP of the receiver by ViewKey?

The viewkey is completely unrelated to any IP address identification.

If you are asking about the sender uncovering the receiver's address, then he already has it (he needs it to send funds in the first place). The receiver, on the other hand, cannot tell the sender's address, only that he received money from somewhere.

But with the ViewKey, can the receiver uncover the sender`s xmr address?
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April 27, 2016, 10:08:37 PM
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Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity. Smiley

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

All users have their own viewkey.

So the fund sender can uncover and identify the IP of the receiver by ViewKey?

The viewkey is completely unrelated to any IP address identification.

If you are asking about the sender uncovering the receiver's address, then he already has it (he needs it to send funds in the first place). The receiver, on the other hand, cannot tell the sender's address, only that he received money from somewhere.

But with the ViewKey, can the receiver uncover the sender`s xmr address?

If you have the sender's view key, then you already have their address. If you are asking if having your view key lets you uncover the sender's address, then no.


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April 28, 2016, 01:04:54 AM
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I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ? Tongue

Probably because Dash got added to Btc-e and pornero not

What a shock!  I had no idea people still use BTC-E.   Shocked

Best trade I've ever made was selling my XPM on BTC-E and using the funds to buy XMR on Kozi's exchange (then later Polo), back when the two coins were at parity.

I advised BTC-E to list XMR, long before Polo blew up thanks to the XMR-ETH wombo combo.  They didn't listen, so Polo ate their lunch.   Tongue


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