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I said this before in this thread and some people said they didn't want it on Mintpal. I didn't know that someone had tried to ask them. That is a shame that they are not interested. Have you actually recieved a reply from them or did they just not respond? I sent them support request for voting and got no replies, I then asked on IRC and also talked to both the Mintpal people on IRC via PM and every time they just were not interested at all. I asked every 3 days for a while to see if they change their minds whilst Monero market was growing but they don't care. So yeah I got replies. Not interested for now.
I said this before in this thread and some people said they didn't want it on Mintpal. I didn't know that someone had tried to ask them. That is a shame that they are not interested. Have you actually recieved a reply from them or did they just not respond?
Hello,
Thanks for your suggestion, however as MRO is not based off bitcoin we cannot currently add it. We will be looking at it again a few months down the line.
Regards,
Jay
MintPal
That was received May 18 Same story here. I contacted Mintpal before we go to Poloniex. I suspect they pasted my answer when replying to Keyboard (or the other way around, when replying to me). . Then I contacted them again during our blitz introduction on Poloniex, at the top the game. Similar answer. So I'd appreciate if people finally got it: We DID contacted Mintpal. Several times. Several of us. And we got explicit (and negative) answers. I trust you to reply accordingly to the next newcomer who will ask the "M question" :-) |
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feeleep
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June 03, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
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aminorex
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it requires a vastly different RPC API. It more than likely requires a major change to the underlying database design, since payments are made to a single address with a different payment ID per-user. Watching for deposits is also challenging: the get_payments RPC API call needs to be polled for every payment ID instead of just hammering 'listreceivedbyaddress <min_confs> false' as one would for a Bitcoin-forked cryptocurrency.
It would be possible to provide a 99% compatible rpc interface however, making it relatively simpler to integrate with btc environments. |
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emontmon
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June 03, 2014, 01:15:35 PM |
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Im going to be straight up. That logo is absurd.
Great software, great devs. Cant fault that. Marketing is below standard. That logo needs to go. I would like to know what respectable, profit driven pr/marketing firm would endorse such a thing. That is the furtherest image from professional and trustworthy. Truly, I have seen scamcoins produce better. Great marketing comes with a price tag and doesn't come from a basement. Start a donation thread for marketing campaign/development and award the contract to a first class business- That is something I would support.
There seems to be this ridiculous notion in crypto that marketing is the last step or it is of no importance until the "code" is perfect.
You may have the best product in crypto but without marketing, nobody cares. There is a small percentage that have identified the potential but not nearly enough to sustain emission growth. Until your product is portrayed in its proper light people cannot relate.
Investors indirectly secure your blockchain. Without us there is no miner incentive.
There is a bright future for the coin if it can secure market share as the dominant "anon' coin. Take your time and someone will fork cryptonote to make the hottest coin of 2014 (prob some X11 derivative. When X11 is old, they will just hard fork it). Without a doubt some noob is already working on this.
I have no problem with forks. Thats the nature of open source. If your not doing it well, somebody will come along and do it better.
I was in mexico last year, and I saw dollar being marketed every where. I saw this in canada too. The dollar is markted everywhere. you are right, a currency to be dominant needs to be markted first. the country that backs it is of little to no significance. |
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June 03, 2014, 01:30:54 PM |
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Just opened new pool (0% fee) feeleep Could you change the URL to: https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/xmr.coinmine.pl:5555 Also, can you tell us in which country your pool is located? |
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huobi.com
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June 03, 2014, 01:35:11 PM |
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Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!
high volume |
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June 03, 2014, 01:45:40 PM |
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Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!
high volume current volume is not high as first week. |
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feeleep
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June 03, 2014, 01:51:39 PM |
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Just opened new pool (0% fee) feeleep Could you change the URL to: https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/xmr.coinmine.pl:5555 Also, can you tell us in which country your pool is located? updated  pool server is located in Germany |
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dreamspark
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June 03, 2014, 01:57:47 PM |
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Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!
high volume current volume is not high as first week. Yup nobody selling anymore, wonder why  Polo isn't the greatest exchange which doesn't help although it has improved in the last couple of days. |
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fluffypony
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June 03, 2014, 02:05:48 PM |
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it requires a vastly different RPC API. It more than likely requires a major change to the underlying database design, since payments are made to a single address with a different payment ID per-user. Watching for deposits is also challenging: the get_payments RPC API call needs to be polled for every payment ID instead of just hammering 'listreceivedbyaddress <min_confs> false' as one would for a Bitcoin-forked cryptocurrency.
It would be possible to provide a 99% compatible rpc interface however, making it relatively simpler to integrate with btc environments. We are playing with a wrapper - but I don't think the RPC is the only bugbear here. A lot of the issue seems to stem from rigid design decisions - assuming that every user gets a unique deposit address (where Monero uses the same address but a different payment ID), assuming the unique deposit address will be generated by the daemon (so no infrastructure for creating random IDs and checking for collisions in a scalable fashion), assuming the address will always be X bytes/chars long, and so on. The amount of fundamental, underlying work required for an exchange that isn't well architected would be nightmarish. |
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Spekulatius
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June 03, 2014, 02:29:57 PM |
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Because I'd like to give some input into this particular project to make it better. To fork everytime you get upset about some trifle is not the way to go. Im voicing my concerns even of it means to critique. If I have come across a bit harsh, I'd like to apologize because it was not my intent to hurt but to remind everybody what chance we have to turn this project into something unique and powerful. Not the rebuild a rehash of overcome systems.
Ok, point taken. Regarding the ISO 4217 compliance, if you don't do it, others will force it anyway. BTC goes as XBT in the codes used by Bloomberg and Xe, two of the largest finance/currency sites because the X prefix is used for all supranational currencies and commodities. This is also why Ripple is XRP, Counterparty is XCP, and Primecoin is XPM. Part of the reason it makes sense for Monero is to legitimize it further because an anonymous coin is naturally prone to being associated with the black market. ISO 4217 was definitely not deviced with crypto currencies in mind. In only 3 letters with 1 already reserved (X), there is simply not enough name space to represent all relevant crypto currencies in a recognizable way. Furthermore submitting to those established standards means to submit to the establishment. Your logo choice exemplifies this course of action further. It is arguably plain and doesnt have any special features that express anything Monero stands for (whatever that is). Id like to understand your reasoning behind your choice. If you indeed payed a professional company to design it for you, they will have certainly asked what you would like to express with it and what your vision is for this project. From what they delivered, I can only tell that you try to fit in with the established norms and customs. If you hope to fleece regulators and the scrutiny of law makers with this approach, I can assure you that you will only get so far before they uncover the anonymous and "potentially dangerous" nature of this technology. You can cloak this project as plainly as you like, you wont hide from their scrutiny for long. When it comes to open arguments among SEC, FinTrac, Monero community & Co. your cover will be blown and you have to come up with some good arguments to justify the degree of privacy Monero dares to provide. Rather then trying to doge the magic bullet, I would advise you to openly tackle the debate with arguments of rights to privacy, abuse of administrative power and civil liberties. Maybe not today but in the foreseeable future you have to step up to the challenge. |
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rpietila
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June 03, 2014, 02:45:10 PM |
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ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment. Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins. I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me |
HIM TVA Dragon, AOK-GM, Emperor of the Earth, Creator of the World, King of Crypto Kingdom, Lord of Malla, AOD-GEN, SA-GEN5, Ministry of Plenty (Join NOW!), Professor of Economics and Theology, Ph.D, AM, Chairman, Treasurer, Founder, CEO, 3*MG-2, 82*OHK, NKP, WTF, FFF, etc(x3)
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David Latapie
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June 03, 2014, 03:07:05 PM |
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updated pool server is located in Germany Done |
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David Latapie
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June 03, 2014, 03:08:27 PM |
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I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me Welcome Risto! This is a privilege to have you here. I wish you pleasant stay. |
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damiano
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June 03, 2014, 03:30:07 PM |
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ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment. Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins. I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me You don't know me, but I have followed you from the wall street observer thread and your own in (speculation forum). I do enjoy reading your posts and they are well thought out. + you have an awsome castle Becareful in these alt's section. 90% of these are pump and dumps and once people know or realise who you are they might try to get your attention into a coin. You have enough btc to make the big whales on the exchanges look like small fish I am actually a bit excited that your involved in Monero take care |
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Zer0Sum
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June 03, 2014, 03:31:36 PM |
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ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment. Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins. I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me Are you related to Amphibian... the FantomCoin Dev? |
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Zer0Sum
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June 03, 2014, 04:05:05 PM |
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Because I'd like to give some input into this particular project to make it better. To fork everytime you get upset about some trifle is not the way to go. Im voicing my concerns even of it means to critique. If I have come across a bit harsh, I'd like to apologize because it was not my intent to hurt but to remind everybody what chance we have to turn this project into something unique and powerful. Not the rebuild a rehash of overcome systems.
Ok, point taken. Regarding the ISO 4217 compliance, if you don't do it, others will force it anyway. BTC goes as XBT in the codes used by Bloomberg and Xe, two of the largest finance/currency sites because the X prefix is used for all supranational currencies and commodities. This is also why Ripple is XRP, Counterparty is XCP, and Primecoin is XPM. Part of the reason it makes sense for Monero is to legitimize it further because an anonymous coin is naturally prone to being associated with the black market. ISO 4217 was definitely not deviced with crypto currencies in mind. In only 3 letters with 1 already reserved (X), there is simply not enough name space to represent all relevant crypto currencies in a recognizable way. Furthermore submitting to those established standards means to submit to the establishment. Your logo choice exemplifies this course of action further. It is arguably plain and doesnt have any special features that express anything Monero stands for (whatever that is). Id like to understand your reasoning behind your choice. If you indeed payed a professional company to design it for you, they will have certainly asked what you would like to express with it and what your vision is for this project. From what they delivered, I can only tell that you try to fit in with the established norms and customs. If you hope to fleece regulators and the scrutiny of law makers with this approach, I can assure you that you will only get so far before they uncover the anonymous and "potentially dangerous" nature of this technology. You can cloak this project as plainly as you like, you wont hide from their scrutiny for long. When it comes to open arguments among SEC, FinTrac, Monero community & Co. your cover will be blown and you have to come up with some good arguments to justify the degree of privacy Monero dares to provide. Rather then trying to doge the magic bullet, I would advise you to openly tackle the debate with arguments of rights to privacy, abuse of administrative power and civil liberties. Maybe not today but in the foreseeable future you have to step up to the challenge. Keep making your points, man. It's troubling to see out-of-control HUBRIS... From unpaid Devs that hijacked a coin, have no wallet and only 250 reddits... Are now talking Bloomberg terminals... and Bitcoin is already in the rear-view mirror. Even the Big Swinging Dicks are here!!! "Your logo choice exemplifies this course of action further. It is arguably plain and doesnt have any special features that express anything Monero stands for (whatever that is)." Industrial orange is a much hated color, VERY hard on the eyes... The plain Bitcoin logo is brilliant and stylish in comparison (a clever play on $ and gold). |
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pandacoin
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June 03, 2014, 05:08:57 PM |
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ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment. Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins. I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me Are you related to Amphibian... the FantomCoin Dev? What kind of question is this? He is rpietila, one of the kings of Bitcoin world. I'm glad you are here Risto. I'm following you and I bought a lot of MRO, too. |
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blaaaaacksuit
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June 03, 2014, 05:17:55 PM |
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ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment. Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins. I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me Welcome Cthulhu of Bitcoin, it's great to see you have an interest in Monero! |
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fluffypony
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June 03, 2014, 05:42:25 PM |
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I was in mexico last year, and I saw dollar being marketed every where. I saw this in canada too. The dollar is markted everywhere. you are right, a currency to be dominant needs to be markted first. the country that backs it is of little to no significance.
I lol'd, but it took me a few minutes to realise it was sarcastic;) |
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