[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[darlidada]

XMR topic on cryptsy : https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/4000277700

Thanks to the person who just made this topic on the cryptsy adding webpage. I tried to but I dont know why the format of my thread was terrible so I ended up editing/deleting it.

[Keyboard-Mash]

Yay! cryptsy thread!

[huhliki.k]

Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!

[monero]

We created two addresses for donations. Donations are not project-specific (we may create some project-specific addresses later) and are meant to help in development and raising awareness. The addresses also are on the OP.

Donations for general development:
- XMR (Monero) :

Code:

46BeWrHpwXmHDpDEUmZBWZfoQpdc6HaERCNmx1pEYL2rAcuwufPN9rXHHtyUA4QVy66qeFQkn6sfK8aHYjA3jk3o1Bv16em

viewkey e422831985c9205238ef84daf6805526c14d96fd7b059fe68c7ab98e495e5703
- BTC (Bitcoin) :

Code:

1FhnVJi2V1k4MqXm2nHoEbY5LV7FPai7bb

updated by David Latapie

[fluffypony]

I think it's best to just tell people it's a form of money. If you try to get into all the nitty gritty details you'll lose their interest. If a talking head gets on TV and talks about Bitcoin to people in a retirement home the last thing they want to do is get into technical details and the potential for future uses. Just tell people it's money and they'll be satisfied and not that far from being wrong.

Anyway the whole reason the word money even came up was in my criticism of the new logo. I don't know, I just don't like the orange and black color, and it doesn't have that hip feel. Darkcoin's newest logo is actually one of the few logos in all of cryptocurrency that I really like and feel that it competes with the best corporate logos. It's sharp, simple, recognizable, unique... all of the attributes you want in a logo. This one is flat, circular, mismatching colors, boring, forgettable. Just my opinion! Not to hurt anyone's feelings who worked hard on it.

We've got someone working on sound-bite sized snippets to explain the facets and features of Monero, we'll probably find that cash-money-currency comes out a lot in those, so I don't fundamentally disagree with you:) It's more in terms of the logo not looking like an ancient Greek drachma than anything else. In other words: it shouldn't conjure up images of money from the logo, that's been done and basically every single altcoin logo I see nowadays has been "made" with this: http://graphicriver.net/item/coin-generator/2532303

I think time will tell how the logo goes. We had some really amazing submissions on our 99designs contest, and we settled on the one that was recommended to us by the experts. If anything gets redesigned or heavily tweaked it will be in the years to come; for the moment we're happy with our decision and we want to move on and focus on the real challenges (of which the logo wasn't one;))

[David Latapie]

I agree with people who dislike the new logo.

"I don't love it, but I think it will grow on me." Phil Knight, Nike CEO upong discovering the Swoosh logo that was just created, 1971

[dreamspark]

I agree with people who dislike the new logo.

"I don't love it, but I think it will grow on me." Phil Knight, Nike CEO upong discovering the Swoosh logo that was just created, 1971

I like the logo personally, its something that can be tweaked and changed if really necessary. For now there are lots of other important things to do for the coin.

[David Latapie]

I said this before in this thread and some people said they didn't want it on Mintpal. I didn't know that someone had tried to ask them. That is a shame that they are not interested. Have you actually recieved a reply from them or did they just not respond?

I sent them support request for voting and got no replies, I then asked on IRC and also talked to both the Mintpal people on IRC via PM and every time they just were not interested at all.

I asked every 3 days for a while to see if they change their minds whilst Monero market was growing but they don't care.

So yeah I got replies.

Not interested for now.

I said this before in this thread and some people said they didn't want it on Mintpal. I didn't know that someone had tried to ask them. That is a shame that they are not interested. Have you actually recieved a reply from them or did they just not respond?

Hello,

Thanks for your suggestion, however as MRO is not based off bitcoin we cannot currently add it. We will be looking at it again a few months down the line.

Regards,
Jay
​MintPal

That was received May 18

Same story here. I contacted Mintpal before we go to Poloniex. I suspect they pasted my answer when replying to Keyboard (or the other way around, when replying to me). . Then I contacted them again during our blitz introduction on Poloniex, at the top the game. Similar answer.

So I'd appreciate if people finally got it: We DID contacted Mintpal. Several times. Several of us. And we got explicit (and negative) answers.

I trust you to reply accordingly to the next newcomer who will ask the "M question" :-)

[feeleep]

Just opened new pool (0% fee)

https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/
Primary Node: xmr.coinmine.pl:5555

feeleep

[aminorex]

it requires a vastly different RPC API. It more than likely requires a major change to the underlying database design, since payments are made to a single address with a different payment ID per-user. Watching for deposits is also challenging: the get_payments RPC API call needs to be polled for every payment ID instead of just hammering 'listreceivedbyaddress <min_confs> false' as one would for a Bitcoin-forked cryptocurrency.

It would be possible to provide a 99% compatible rpc interface however, making it relatively simpler to integrate with btc environments.

[emontmon]

Im going to be straight up. That logo is absurd.

Great software, great devs. Cant fault that. Marketing is below standard. That logo needs to go. I would like to know what respectable, profit driven pr/marketing firm would endorse such a thing. That is the furtherest image from professional and trustworthy. Truly, I have seen scamcoins produce better. Great marketing comes with a price tag and doesn't come from a basement. Start a donation thread for marketing campaign/development and award the contract to a first class business- That is something I would support.

There seems to be this ridiculous notion in crypto that marketing is the last step or it is of no importance until the "code" is perfect.

You may have the best product in crypto but without marketing, nobody cares. There is a small percentage that have identified the potential but not nearly enough to sustain emission growth. Until your product is portrayed in its proper light people cannot relate.

Investors indirectly secure your blockchain. Without us there is no miner incentive.

There is a bright future for the coin if it can secure market share as the dominant "anon' coin. Take your time and someone will fork cryptonote to make the hottest coin of 2014 (prob some X11 derivative. When X11 is old, they will just hard fork it). Without a doubt some noob is already working on this.

I have no problem with forks. Thats the nature of open source. If your not doing it well, somebody will come along and do it better.

I was in mexico last year, and I saw dollar being marketed every where. I saw this in canada too. The dollar is markted everywhere. you are right, a currency to be dominant needs to be markted first. the country that backs it is of little to no significance.

[David Latapie]

Just opened new pool (0% fee)

https://www2.coinmine.pl/mro/
Primary Node: mro.coinmine.pl:5555

feeleep

Could you change the URL to:
https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/
xmr.coinmine.pl:5555

Also, can you tell us in which country your pool is located?

[huobi.com]

Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!

high volume

[uvt9]

Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!

high volume

current volume is not high as first week.

[feeleep]

Just opened new pool (0% fee)

https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/
Primary Node: xmr.coinmine.pl:5555

feeleep

Could you change the URL to:
https://www2.coinmine.pl/xmr/
xmr.coinmine.pl:5555

Also, can you tell us in which country your pool is located?

updated

pool server is located in Germany

[dreamspark]

Such a coin as Monero exchange must add without a vote!

high volume

current volume is not high as first week.

Yup nobody selling anymore, wonder why Polo isn't the greatest exchange which doesn't help although it has improved in the last couple of days.

[fluffypony]

it requires a vastly different RPC API. It more than likely requires a major change to the underlying database design, since payments are made to a single address with a different payment ID per-user. Watching for deposits is also challenging: the get_payments RPC API call needs to be polled for every payment ID instead of just hammering 'listreceivedbyaddress <min_confs> false' as one would for a Bitcoin-forked cryptocurrency.

It would be possible to provide a 99% compatible rpc interface however, making it relatively simpler to integrate with btc environments.

We are playing with a wrapper - but I don't think the RPC is the only bugbear here. A lot of the issue seems to stem from rigid design decisions - assuming that every user gets a unique deposit address (where Monero uses the same address but a different payment ID), assuming the unique deposit address will be generated by the daemon (so no infrastructure for creating random IDs and checking for collisions in a scalable fashion), assuming the address will always be X bytes/chars long, and so on. The amount of fundamental, underlying work required for an exchange that isn't well architected would be nightmarish.

[Spekulatius]

Because I'd like to give some input into this particular project to make it better. To fork everytime you get upset about some trifle is not the way to go. Im voicing my concerns even of it means to critique. If I have come across a bit harsh, I'd like to apologize because it was not my intent to hurt but to remind everybody what chance we have to turn this project into something unique and powerful. Not the rebuild a rehash of overcome systems.

Ok, point taken. Regarding the ISO 4217 compliance, if you don't do it, others will force it anyway. BTC goes as XBT in the codes used by Bloomberg and Xe, two of the largest finance/currency sites because the X prefix is used for all supranational currencies and commodities. This is also why Ripple is XRP, Counterparty is XCP, and Primecoin is XPM. Part of the reason it makes sense for Monero is to legitimize it further because an anonymous coin is naturally prone to being associated with the black market.

ISO 4217 was definitely not deviced with crypto currencies in mind. In only 3 letters with 1 already reserved (X), there is simply not enough name space to represent all relevant crypto currencies in a recognizable way. Furthermore submitting to those established standards means to submit to the establishment.

Your logo choice exemplifies this course of action further. It is arguably plain and doesnt have any special features that express anything Monero stands for (whatever that is). Id like to understand your reasoning behind your choice. If you indeed payed a professional company to design it for you, they will have certainly asked what you would like to express with it and what your vision is for this project. From what they delivered, I can only tell that you try to fit in with the established norms and customs. If you hope to fleece regulators and the scrutiny of law makers with this approach, I can assure you that you will only get so far before they uncover the anonymous and "potentially dangerous" nature of this technology. You can cloak this project as plainly as you like, you wont hide from their scrutiny for long. When it comes to open arguments among SEC, FinTrac, Monero community & Co. your cover will be blown and you have to come up with some good arguments to justify the degree of privacy Monero dares to provide. Rather then trying to doge the magic bullet, I would advise you to openly tackle the debate with arguments of rights to privacy, abuse of administrative power and civil liberties. Maybe not today but in the foreseeable future you have to step up to the challenge.

[rpietila]

ANN: I have bought into MRO (yes, daring to use that acronym) and rank perhaps between 10-30 largest owners. Reason is that I see it as the #2 coin with most potential second only to Bitcoin. It is my first and only alt investment.

Here is a thread with mostly very good general discussion on altcoins.

I am very interested in getting to know the community, so feel free to PM or otherwise contact me

[David Latapie]

updated

pool server is located in Germany

Done