Hueristic
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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September 23, 2014, 08:59:44 PM |
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MEW - Monero Economy Workgroup communication
This has been a busy day. The taskforce of crypto_zoidberg, AnonyMint, jl777 and some Monero developers and MEW members has diligently worked on the code and is implementing fixes to possible exploits that might give the attacker the upper hand. The code is evaluated so that we can say with certainty that no coinkiller exploit can be used against us, and this makes me thankful for the original coders of CryptoNote. It is too often forgotten that without this unique technology there would be no Monero that has taken the torch, determined to carry it beyond the current limits of cryptoworld.
I must point out the irony in this post. The first 3 people you mention that helped you with the code are all supporters/developers of BBR. Who's carrying the torch here exactly? BBR obviously! Here let me fix it for you: The BBR-Is-The-Best taskforce of crypto_zoidberg, AnonyMint, jl777, with expert community management guidance of windjc, plus nobody of any particular talent or value from XMR (well that's obvious since there isn't anybody)....
Okay now we have all of you guys in there, and worded just the way you like! Have a great day sir. ROTFLMFAO!
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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nsimmons
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September 23, 2014, 09:00:19 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero?
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sibcurrency
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September 23, 2014, 09:02:29 PM |
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Where is attack? What's going on?
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[XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthSend, World's first anonymous SMS
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Bobsurplus
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Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
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September 23, 2014, 09:03:13 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? You got it... Now anyone at work right now missing all this wont even be able to move his coins to the exchange when he gets home to sell them, all because the CBOM decided to close down the exchanges. XMR is a massive #FAIL
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puck2
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September 23, 2014, 09:04:59 PM |
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...all because the CBOM decided to close down the exchanges.
XMR is a massive #FAIL
...um, your metaphors are mixed here...
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owlcatz
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September 23, 2014, 09:06:38 PM |
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What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
From : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg8945242#msg8945242Quote from: TheKoziTwo on Today at 04:20:58 PM Seems BCX decided he needs an additional 4 hours at least, he has extended his deadline (or maybe he is just bad at math, don't know which): Quote from: BitcoinEXpress on Today at 04:07:50 PM Hey retard, I said start in 72 hours, which is still ~5 hours away. ~BCX~
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smfuser
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September 23, 2014, 09:06:57 PM |
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What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794079.msg8944565#msg8944565Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.
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Anon136
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Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
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September 23, 2014, 09:08:41 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't.
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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5w00p
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September 23, 2014, 09:09:11 PM |
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Come join my workers and mine on small pool:
xmr.cryptograben.com
And enjoy his awesome cheat-proof algorithm (afaik)! Because Sept 25 is in the FUTURE Pool is live
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Hueristic
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Activity: 4718
Merit: 7958
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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September 23, 2014, 09:11:40 PM |
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BOOM???
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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Anon136
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September 23, 2014, 09:14:55 PM |
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What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794079.msg8944565#msg8944565Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.  of course he has. because there never was a vulnerability. i bet he will just keep pushing it back indefinitely. always this fatal exploit will be right around the corner.
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Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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5w00p
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September 23, 2014, 09:16:32 PM |
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What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794079.msg8944565#msg8944565Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.  of course he has. because there never was a vulnerability. i bet he will just keep pushing it back indefinitely. always this fatal exploit will be right around the corner. Reminds me of the "threat of terrorism" and the threat alert level [maybe bcx is gov't figure]  Never reaches "Safe" 
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nsimmons
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September 23, 2014, 09:19:03 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. Try to formulate your thoughts before you type. This illiterate gibberish doesn't even make any sense. What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours. It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization?
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luigi1111
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September 23, 2014, 09:20:41 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. Try to formulate your thoughts before you type. This illiterate gibberish doesn't even make any sense. What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours. It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization? Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known.
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Bobsurplus
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Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
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September 23, 2014, 09:21:36 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. Try to formulate your thoughts before you type. This illiterate gibberish doesn't even make any sense. What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours. It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization? It sure is! And it's a scam too! You lost out bigtime on this one I assume.. Shoulda listened to me and not written me off yesterday when I said this kind of shit would happen.
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nsimmons
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September 23, 2014, 09:25:45 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. Try to formulate your thoughts before you type. This illiterate gibberish doesn't even make any sense. What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours. It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization? Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known. Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat.
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aerbax
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September 23, 2014, 09:32:23 PM |
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I wouldn't say this was an arbitrary "edict from on high".
The Monero core team suggested to the various exchanges that they shutdown deposits and withdrawals for a period of time. The exchanges weren't forced to do this.
I'm sure that if the exchanges had not done this, the trolls would spin that in a negative light, too. something..something...greedy...doesn't care about security...
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varun555
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September 23, 2014, 09:32:40 PM |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. Try to formulate your thoughts before you type. This illiterate gibberish doesn't even make any sense. What don't I get? The core group asked exchanges to shut down deposits. I sent my coins before fluffypony's announcement. Mintpal did it without notice now my coins are in limbo for 24hours. It looks pretty clear that a few people denied me access to my money. Is this not centralization? Exchanges are indeed centralization. This is well-known. Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat. Well if the devs don't inform the exchanges, then who else? The devs do not own the exchanges. They simply inform them. If you think that the action of your exchange is arbitrary, then the onus is on the exchange and not the devs!
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Hilux74
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Merit: 1000
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September 23, 2014, 09:32:43 PM |
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So you shoudn't be storing your XMR on an exchange if you don't want someone else to have control. Pretty easy solution to your proclaimed centralization problem. lol
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smooth
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September 23, 2014, 09:32:47 PM |
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Well see, I understand if an exchange shuts down, for maintenance, attack, whatever. Or if there is a crisis on the network and coins are going missing. But what I am pissed off at, as should everyone else should be, is that a edict from on high has arbitrarily shut things down due to a threat.
No edict, just our recommendation. The centralized exchange used its centralized authority to decide to follow our recommendation.
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