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Author Topic: [ANN][XC] >> Mandatory Update to new Wallet - The first POS X11 anonymous wallet  (Read 268369 times)
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May 27, 2014, 05:48:44 AM
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I've been watching this coin with interest and I have to say, I don't understand the great rush with things. Why the need to transition to POS right away? If the coin isn't well distributed there's a risk of a 51% attack by a big holder having coins on minting. Is there even a distribution list/chart for the POW coins?

Because there are FPGA's accounting for about 60-70% of the net hash.  That is why.

FPGA x11 code: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

Okay but isn't that jumping from one security problem to another? Isn't anyone concerned about uneven distribution of staking wallets, considering a large number of coins will be bound up on exchanges?

Exchange wallets do not stake.  They disable stake.  This can be confirmed by bittrex-richie (bittrex) and tf2honeybadger (poloniex).  

That's what I mean. Coins on exchanges won't be staking thereby reducing the number of coins you would need to have 51% of minting coins. Am I wrong?


You think there is a bagholder so big that they own 51% of XC now...?

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May 27, 2014, 05:51:45 AM
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some one is preparing the multipool, which will push us upwards right after pow.

of course i think dev knows exactly what this coin nee and where it will be.



xnodes mean you don't really NEED multipool, but I guess it will still be good to have one

Why? Because xnodes create buy support?
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May 27, 2014, 05:52:19 AM
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I've been watching this coin with interest and I have to say, I don't understand the great rush with things. Why the need to transition to POS right away? If the coin isn't well distributed there's a risk of a 51% attack by a big holder having coins on minting. Is there even a distribution list/chart for the POW coins?

Because there are FPGA's accounting for about 60-70% of the net hash.  That is why.

FPGA x11 code: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

Okay but isn't that jumping from one security problem to another? Isn't anyone concerned about uneven distribution of staking wallets, considering a large number of coins will be bound up on exchanges?

Exchange wallets do not stake.  They disable stake.  This can be confirmed by bittrex-richie (bittrex) and tf2honeybadger (poloniex).  

That's what I mean. Coins on exchanges won't be staking thereby reducing the number of coins you would need to have 51% of minting coins. Am I wrong?


You think there is a bagholder so big that they own 51% of XC now...?

My goal is to own 51% and protect the price.

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May 27, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
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I've been watching this coin with interest and I have to say, I don't understand the great rush with things. Why the need to transition to POS right away? If the coin isn't well distributed there's a risk of a 51% attack by a big holder having coins on minting. Is there even a distribution list/chart for the POW coins?

Because there are FPGA's accounting for about 60-70% of the net hash.  That is why.

FPGA x11 code: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

Okay but isn't that jumping from one security problem to another? Isn't anyone concerned about uneven distribution of staking wallets, considering a large number of coins will be bound up on exchanges?

Exchange wallets do not stake.  They disable stake.  This can be confirmed by bittrex-richie (bittrex) and tf2honeybadger (poloniex).  

That's what I mean. Coins on exchanges won't be staking thereby reducing the number of coins you would need to have 51% of minting coins. Am I wrong?


You think there is a bagholder so big that they own 51% of XC now...?

My goal is to own 51% and protect the price.

Me too. 

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May 27, 2014, 05:56:32 AM
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I've been watching this coin with interest and I have to say, I don't understand the great rush with things. Why the need to transition to POS right away? If the coin isn't well distributed there's a risk of a 51% attack by a big holder having coins on minting. Is there even a distribution list/chart for the POW coins?

Because there are FPGA's accounting for about 60-70% of the net hash.  That is why.

FPGA x11 code: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

Okay but isn't that jumping from one security problem to another? Isn't anyone concerned about uneven distribution of staking wallets, considering a large number of coins will be bound up on exchanges?

Exchange wallets do not stake.  They disable stake.  This can be confirmed by bittrex-richie (bittrex) and tf2honeybadger (poloniex).  

That's what I mean. Coins on exchanges won't be staking thereby reducing the number of coins you would need to have 51% of minting coins. Am I wrong?

atcsecure would have to answer that one -- I'm not quite sure how it all works to be honest.

I do not want to answer for the dev but here is my take on it.

Let's say we end up at 5.6 million coins at the end of POW. (Using a low number as this is worse case scenario.) If 1/2 of the coins are on the exchanges that leaves 2.8 million in wallets for staking. If only 1/2 of the people keep there wallets unlocked and staking then that leaves 1.4 million coins staking. So a successful 51% would require 700,000 XC, about $500,000 US at current prices, which could happen but even if someone has that many I believe they would need to have knowledge and bad intentions to do damage. I doubt 1/2 of the coins will be on exchanges and I think as long as the coin is doing well it is likely more than 1/2 of them that are in wallets will be staking. Therefore not sure if it is something to be to concerned about at this time.

Please correct me if I am misunderstanding or have misrepresented anything.
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May 27, 2014, 05:57:37 AM
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I've been watching this coin with interest and I have to say, I don't understand the great rush with things. Why the need to transition to POS right away? If the coin isn't well distributed there's a risk of a 51% attack by a big holder having coins on minting. Is there even a distribution list/chart for the POW coins?

Because there are FPGA's accounting for about 60-70% of the net hash.  That is why.

FPGA x11 code: http://cryptography.gmu.edu/athena/index.php?id=source_codes

Okay but isn't that jumping from one security problem to another? Isn't anyone concerned about uneven distribution of staking wallets, considering a large number of coins will be bound up on exchanges?

Exchange wallets do not stake.  They disable stake.  This can be confirmed by bittrex-richie (bittrex) and tf2honeybadger (poloniex).  

That's what I mean. Coins on exchanges won't be staking thereby reducing the number of coins you would need to have 51% of minting coins. Am I wrong?


You think there is a bagholder so big that they own 51% of XC now...?

I'm saying they wouldn't need all 51% of coins, just 51% of the ones currently staking, if I figure it correctly. There could be a big holder who could do that. There's reports of lots of centralised hash and the coin hasn't been on POW or distributing on exchanges very long to even it out. There's a question around it, is what I'm saying.
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May 27, 2014, 05:58:07 AM
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Did POW just end at block 20001 or is it ending at 21000? Both were said, I confused.
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May 27, 2014, 06:00:51 AM
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Did POW just end at block 20001 or is it ending at 21000? Both were said, I confused.

PoW is going until 21K. The dev made an error in announcing that it would end at 20K.
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May 27, 2014, 06:02:59 AM
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Updated to v0.9.1.4x11-coin-1.0


Sorry about the confusion - here is the correct wallet

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZcN3xJBa!AusfqUpr6keImDaMKkOXnO165ZmEWl1WNfpuVX8EFkE

I am extremely stressed out right now. Where is the update for the macwallet??!?!?!

Same here, is there a updated MacWallet? If not, how does that affect the minting in my wallet?  I have 6000XC in my (mac)wallet and it is minting (bottom right symbol says " Minting, your weight is 7536, Networkweight is 52145. Expected time to earn rewards: 10 minutes"). But I see nothing else happening. Hope some1 can explain.

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May 27, 2014, 06:06:58 AM
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Updated to v0.9.1.4x11-coin-1.0


Sorry about the confusion - here is the correct wallet

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZcN3xJBa!AusfqUpr6keImDaMKkOXnO165ZmEWl1WNfpuVX8EFkE

I am extremely stressed out right now. Where is the update for the macwallet??!?!?!

Same here, is there a updated MacWallet? If not, how does that affect the minting in my wallet?  I have 6000XC in my (mac)wallet and it is minting (bottom right symbol says " Minting, your weight is 7536, Networkweight is 52145. Expected time to earn rewards: 10 minutes"). But I see nothing else happening. Hope some1 can explain.

Lucky. My MacWallet says my coins aren't minting.
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May 27, 2014, 06:09:06 AM
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anyone else stuck on block 20001?
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May 27, 2014, 06:11:43 AM
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Can anyone help me answer this question:

My wallet says my coins aren't minting because they aren't mature. What does this mean and how can I solve this problem?

I bought all my coins, so does this mean I am not eligible to POS? 
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May 27, 2014, 06:12:03 AM
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join : https://www.minep.it/pool/xc

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May 27, 2014, 06:12:30 AM
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xc 620043.26 MH/s  Shocked Shocked
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May 27, 2014, 06:12:58 AM
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May 27, 2014, 06:13:09 AM
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Updated to v0.9.1.4x11-coin-1.0


Sorry about the confusion - here is the correct wallet

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZcN3xJBa!AusfqUpr6keImDaMKkOXnO165ZmEWl1WNfpuVX8EFkE

I am extremely stressed out right now. Where is the update for the macwallet??!?!?!

Same here, is there a updated MacWallet? If not, how does that affect the minting in my wallet?  I have 6000XC in my (mac)wallet and it is minting (bottom right symbol says " Minting, your weight is 7536, Networkweight is 52145. Expected time to earn rewards: 10 minutes"). But I see nothing else happening. Hope some1 can explain.

Lucky. My MacWallet says my coins aren't minting.
It's nice it is minting, it's been doing so for the last few days. But I don't understand what happens now. Can some1 explain this newbie?

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May 27, 2014, 06:13:57 AM
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Can anyone help me answer this question:

My wallet says my coins aren't minting because they aren't mature. What does this mean and how can I solve this problem?

8 hours must elapse after depositing to your wallet before you can stake.
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May 27, 2014, 06:15:10 AM
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What does mean "Total # of Coins reduced to about 6~7.5Million with POW" Huh

I remember the ann "Total of coins 33m" yesterday!

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May 27, 2014, 06:15:20 AM
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Updated to v0.9.1.4x11-coin-1.0


Sorry about the confusion - here is the correct wallet

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZcN3xJBa!AusfqUpr6keImDaMKkOXnO165ZmEWl1WNfpuVX8EFkE

I am extremely stressed out right now. Where is the update for the macwallet??!?!?!

Same here, is there a updated MacWallet? If not, how does that affect the minting in my wallet?  I have 6000XC in my (mac)wallet and it is minting (bottom right symbol says " Minting, your weight is 7536, Networkweight is 52145. Expected time to earn rewards: 10 minutes"). But I see nothing else happening. Hope some1 can explain.

What does the weight mean? Your weight is 7536, is it so high?

If I open two different computers to mint, will the mint efficient be double?
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May 27, 2014, 06:16:13 AM
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should have ended at 20k, damn ....

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