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July 06, 2012, 02:09:05 AM
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There are a few solutions to this.

... including mine that no one seems likely to consider even though it is directly based on the design of Bitcoin.
It is the simplest, most directly related to the issue, is an extremely long term solution, however, will require a hard fork

All the other solutions are IMO a hack to get around having to hard fork.
So far they all seem to be either very short term (pointless) or moving transaction processing onto the miner's computer (a hack) by either putting it directly into the miner or running a pool interface that has this code in a separate program 'next' to the miner.

There's a few threads on the subject with different ideas.

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Once a transaction has 6 confirmations, it is extremely unlikely that an attacker without at least 50% of the network's computation power would be able to reverse it.
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July 06, 2012, 02:30:54 AM
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I'd like to discuss this, but in a different thread.  I also disagree with anything requiring a hard fork at this point.  Moving work generation to the client seems like a logical step and I don't see it as a hack at all.

I would also propose a bulk getwork and submitwork protocol.  But either way, lets discuss in a different thread.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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July 06, 2012, 10:52:42 AM
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I've just released cgminer 2.5.0 which has full minirig and substantially updated single support.

Alas, it's not like I actually own a minirig, but some generous donating and temporary remote access allowed me to work on the code for it. Note that this was a laptop connected to 2 minirigs, each with 17 devices in it. The silicon quality apparently varies from device to device which is why they're 2 speeds in this example. Note that this machine was generating 50Ghash, with an efficiency over 9000  Wink and the CPU usage was recording 1%.



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July 06, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
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I've just released cgminer 2.5.0 which has full minirig and substantially updated single support.

Con, thanks for all of your hard work.
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July 06, 2012, 02:09:21 PM
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BFL doesn't answer on my e-mails, so I write here. Maybe they answer me.
BFL, you are shipping May orders now, but I still don't receive even a tracking number for my 4/18 order. I e-mailed you about this issue at 07/01 but you don't answer me.
Since 09/21/2011 I've sent to you over $20,000 and received only a one Single which waited for 209 days and now you ignore me again. Can I expect a tiny attention on your part for this money?
BFL, why do you divide your customers in whites and blacks?
Whites receive their orders in time and niggers will receives their orders when whites return trade-in singles. Am I right?

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July 06, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...

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July 06, 2012, 02:26:20 PM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...
+1, that was childish and lame.

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July 06, 2012, 02:35:47 PM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...
+1, that was childish and lame.
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July 06, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...
+1, that was childish and lame.

Although leofar has a valid point but it will be skipped as he is using improper words. I would really like to understand why BFL doesn't follow the order numbers and why they ship equipments to the well know users before the less know users... Do they think they will do a better advertisement to them?

BFL,
just ship my unit and i will tell just good things about your support and product. Smiley Even i am willing to tell everyone you were calling me every day about my product... Especially after delivery to make sure it works as it was designed by BFL engineers. So, when can I get my SC miniRig?

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July 06, 2012, 05:22:31 PM
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There is no way to change the firmware on the singles without a windows machine? Who the hell runs windows these days?
My mining farm of 8 computers uses a free version of windows.  That's right there is a free version of windows but it's not for the average user as it's command line only with very little GUI.  However you can install MSI After Burner and few other GUI software.

It's called Windows 20008 Hyper-v core.
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July 06, 2012, 05:28:49 PM
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It's called Windows 20008 Hyper-v core.
Does that mean nmcbit is nearly 18000 years into the future?  Must be tough to find a block there...  or really easy...
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July 06, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
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It's called Windows 20008 Hyper-v core.
Does that mean nmcbit is nearly 18000 years into the future?  Must be tough to find a block there...  or really easy...

It was obviously a type...

But anyways now I"m intrigued! You can install the ATI drivers in Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008? And run CGMiner and mine with no problems?

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July 06, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...
+1, that was childish and lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llCULY1tVhs
Guys, just reread "The Adventures of Tom Sawyers" by Mark Twain. You found this word a lot of times. I don't understand why you so afraid of this word. Please, remember that it is an  international forum and USA just a small part of the Earth Globe and intra USA phobias doesn't intresting to all other countries. FYI, for a example, in Russia nigger is a absolutely neutral word but black man sounds offensive. Anyway, I love you everyone.
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July 06, 2012, 06:15:20 PM
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@leofar,

I am not afraid of the word - just see no need to use in your message unless your only intention was "shock and awe".

Yes, I am aware the word was used more openly in the past.  This doesn't make it correct to do so now...

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July 06, 2012, 07:42:57 PM
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It was obviously a type...
I know that it was a typo, and I assume he does as well.  We have interacted before, and my comment was meant as a joke.  I forgot to use emoticons, or got distracted by not having the ones I wanted available (a shrug for that post, a facepalm for this one).  Wink

EDIT: To not lengthen the thread, in case you re-read this (crazyates), the reason I trimmed my quote of your post is because I have no response regarding video card drivers on Hyper-V (hopefully davincij will).
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July 06, 2012, 08:03:12 PM
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It was obviously a type...
I know that it was a typo, and I assume he does as well.  We have interacted before, and my comment was meant as a joke.  I forgot to use emoticons, or got distracted by not having the ones I wanted available (a shrug for that post, a facepalm for this one).  Wink

Ah ok! Still my questions stands: how difficult is it to set up EasyMiner and mine with Singles on Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008?

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July 07, 2012, 01:47:38 AM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...

I'm pretty white and I've still not received my order either.

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July 07, 2012, 02:24:10 AM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...

I'm pretty white and I've still not received my order either.
How does one tell race by email?
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July 07, 2012, 04:05:39 AM
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@leofar,

The N word - really?

I understand your frustration but no need for that...

I'm pretty white and I've still not received my order either.
How does one tell race by email?

well, in the signature space of my emails is a picture of my big, black ass. Maybe he sends his the same way.  Tongue

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July 07, 2012, 06:04:26 AM
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I received 3 more singles today. BF must have the worst quality control team in the world.  None of the screws were tightened. One had a bad fan on the bottom that was making a very loud noise. They also didn't put in the bottom rubber pieces for them to sit on. I spent about a hour taking them apart and putting them back together properly. I've never spent this kind of money and gotten such poor customer service and quality control. Hopefully they learn how to tighten screws before the SC Singles come out.
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