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April 07, 2012, 11:53:14 AM
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Has ANYONE in the UK received their unit ?

Anybody in the EU ?

What are the costs of import.

BFL, any news on that plan of yours to avoid duty for EU customers ?

Thank you !
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April 07, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
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I actually find these 4 points a bit questionable:

(the 2nd top one the most ...)

They cutting there a little out with the file (or saw)......and? Its an prototype!
And we can not see, the pin touch the cooler.
Need only 0.2mm space! That will do for prototype!
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April 07, 2012, 11:57:09 AM
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Has ANYONE in the UK received their unit ?

Anybody in the EU ?

What are the costs of import.

BFL, any news on that plan of yours to avoid duty for EU customers ?

Thank you !


We have some plans regarding that. Will apply it to the first shipment to EU.



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April 07, 2012, 11:59:30 AM
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Has ANYONE in the UK received their unit ?

Anybody in the EU ?

What are the costs of import.

BFL, any news on that plan of yours to avoid duty for EU customers ?

Thank you !


We have some plans regarding that. Will apply it to the first shipment to EU.



Good Luck,

So nobody in the EU has ordered anything yet from you ?

Or are you doing a sort of group EU buy / export without taxes ?

Thanks !
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April 07, 2012, 12:08:56 PM
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I have ordered. But thanks god we're not in the EU. Grin

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April 07, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
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I have ordered. But thanks god we're not in the EU. Grin

And we also have lower import-tax!! Amen Grin
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April 07, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
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So nobody in the EU has ordered anything yet from you ?

Or are you doing a sort of group EU buy / export without taxes ?

Thanks !

I've ordered some back in January. I was told they should be shipped (to Germany) at the end of march. As of today there is no update :/
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April 07, 2012, 12:52:50 PM
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Has ANYONE in the UK received their unit ?

Anybody in the EU ?

What are the costs of import.

BFL, any news on that plan of yours to avoid duty for EU customers ?

Thank you !


We have some plans regarding that. Will apply it to the first shipment to EU.



Good Luck,

So nobody in the EU has ordered anything yet from you ?

Or are you doing a sort of group EU buy / export without taxes ?

Thanks !


Sorry for the confusion. What I meant was the first shipment from the Rev 3.


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April 07, 2012, 05:18:48 PM
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We have some plans regarding that. Will apply it to the first shipment to EU.



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BFL-Engineer,

are you saying that you found a way to avoid import taxes or that after your first shipment you'll be able to confirm that your 'method' works?

Thanks.

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April 15, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
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Hi guys!

Just finished reading all the threads regarding BFL's single and Rig. I am totally new here, would like to invest in Mini rig or Rig box, but 15 weeks wait time is a little bit scary.

Hopefully at some point BFL will have more reasonable shipping times, or some competitor will come up with a better production and logistic organization.

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April 15, 2012, 09:52:03 PM
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I wish they start answering emails at least :/ Even tiny autoresponder would be better then current silence in response
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April 16, 2012, 12:52:16 AM
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Is it just me or is this "prototype" photoshopped?

Prototype water block for singles / Mini Rig




Hopefully that becomes a reality. I'd love for a factory waterblock option. Even better would be a factory waterblock option that sandwiched the waterblock with a pair of BFL Singles in a similar manner to the NVIDIA 9800 GX2 and first revision GTX 295. You could achieve some scary computing densities if they were to consider such an option.

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April 16, 2012, 01:43:30 AM
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Is it just me or is this "prototype" photoshopped?

Prototype water block for singles / Mini Rig




Hopefully that becomes a reality. I'd love for a factory waterblock option. Even better would be a factory waterblock option that sandwiched the waterblock with a pair of BFL Singles in a similar manner to the NVIDIA 9800 GX2 and first revision GTX 295. You could achieve some scary computing densities if they were to consider such an option.

sounds like fubar to me. No matter how cool you are able to keep it, it will never go faster than the bitstream thats loaded on it
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April 16, 2012, 01:46:20 AM
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sounds like fubar to me. No matter how cool you are able to keep it, it will never go faster than the bitstream thats loaded on it
You can "overclock" an FPGA by adding voltage, same as a GPU. The difference is that it is rarely adjustable without replacing resistors and stuff on the board. You could then program the firmware to go faster.

Keeping stuff cool isn't always about speed though. It dramatically helps the reliability and expected lifespan of most any part.

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April 16, 2012, 01:58:14 AM
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sounds like fubar to me. No matter how cool you are able to keep it, it will never go faster than the bitstream thats loaded on it
You can "overclock" an FPGA by adding voltage, same as a GPU. The difference is that it is rarely adjustable without replacing resistors and stuff on the board. You could then program the firmware to go faster.

Keeping stuff cool isn't always about speed though. It dramatically helps the reliability and expected lifespan of most any part.
With the current ztex bitstream you set the clock speed as part of the USB mining I/O interface.
(it's actually part of the interface so you can reduce it when it returns errors - i.e. it's getting too hot)
Thus I guess in that case you could put it up higher if the chips were cooled better.

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April 16, 2012, 02:03:42 AM
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to clarify this argument I guess I would have to see some definition on what exactly this means:

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April 16, 2012, 02:06:51 AM
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to clarify this argument I guess I would have to see some definition on what exactly this means:

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You could achieve some scary computing densities
Lots of hash in a small box.

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April 16, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
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to clarify this argument I guess I would have to see some definition on what exactly this means:

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You could achieve some scary computing densities

as rjk said, computing density is the amount of instructions processed in an amount of space.  a high computing density is powerful computing power in a small space.  water cooling allows you to almost disregard airflow, so you can put chips/boards closer together, squeezing more in a smaller space.  additionally water cooling hardware generally takes up less space in the box than air cooling hardware.
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April 16, 2012, 03:00:34 AM
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to clarify this argument I guess I would have to see some definition on what exactly this means:

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You could achieve some scary computing densities
Lots of hash in a small box.

Exactly. From the looks of things you could put 2 BFL Single sandwiches in a normal BFL chassis. So, 3328 MH/s, 320w all running at 40-50 Celsius in a compact package. I'd pay a price premium for such a "mini mini rig".

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April 16, 2012, 05:28:41 AM
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Exactly. From the looks of things you could put 2 BFL Single sandwiches in a normal BFL chassis. So, 3328 MH/s, 320w all running at 40-50 Celsius in a compact package. I'd pay a price premium for such a "mini mini rig".

I would say Nano Rig ©, then.  Roll Eyes
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