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March 08, 2012, 05:14:06 PM
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I received an email that I can expect to receive my singles around the end of March.  Based on this prediction it looks as if production is closer to 6 weeks than 4 right now.

Heavyb, when did you place that order? My understanding is that people who have orders back in December still haven't received them.

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March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
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Since we've had so many questions about Order dates and Ship dates I've created a thread for just that information.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67887

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March 08, 2012, 09:50:24 PM
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Since we've had so many questions about Order dates and Ship dates I've created a thread for just that information.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67887

Thanks.

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March 09, 2012, 12:31:00 AM
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For those of you whom don't feel like waiting for the BitForce Single, I'm giving one away for half a bitcoin.

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March 09, 2012, 12:52:15 AM
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For those of you whom don't feel like waiting for the BitForce Single, I'm giving one away for half a bitcoin.

Raffles are for people who are bad at math.

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March 09, 2012, 12:52:41 AM
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For those of you whom don't feel like waiting for the BitForce Single, I'm giving one away for half a bitcoin.

Raffles are for people who are bad at math.

Usually they're for fun, but in this particular circumstance it's a way to get a BitForce Single with a guaranteed delivery time.

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March 09, 2012, 01:48:44 AM
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For those of you whom don't feel like waiting for the BitForce Single, I'm giving one away for half a bitcoin.

Raffles are for people who are bad at math.

Usually they're for fun, but in this particular circumstance it's a way to get a BitForce Single with a guaranteed delivery time.
Like he said, acquiring a BFL Single this way nearly mathematically guarantees a delivery time of "never."
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March 09, 2012, 02:01:25 AM
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For those of you whom don't feel like waiting for the BitForce Single, I'm giving one away for half a bitcoin.

Raffles are for people who are bad at math.

Usually they're for fun, but in this particular circumstance it's a way to get a BitForce Single with a guaranteed delivery time.
Like he said, acquiring a BFL Single this way nearly mathematically guarantees a delivery time of "never."
It's not like winning the Powerball! The only people entering the raffle are the people on bitcointalk.  Seriously, are there MILLIONS of people participating in the forum now?

No. 176 Guests, 167 Users (19 Hidden).  Even if everyone buys a raffle, the odds are better than winning a lottery.
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March 09, 2012, 03:49:05 AM
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Since we've had so many questions about Order dates and Ship dates I've created a thread for just that information.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67887

By that information, most people who have received product, could have purchased a 5970 ($450?) with that money and paid half of it off with average electricity prices.  Three month delivery time with money paid up front really hurts the payback. 

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March 09, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
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Ok folks, I have some good news with regards to the power requirements for the RigBox.  According to "People Familiar with the Matter" (TM) - the RigBox will use dual 1500w PSUs, meaning they will be 120v/220v switchable units... also meaning you can plug, (presumably) each PSU into a separate circuit to prevent overloading one circuit with impossible current draw.

This also means, I presume, that each PSU will be field replaceable by the end user without too much hassle and downtime.

This pleases me a great deal.

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March 09, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
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This pleases me a great deal.

+1

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March 09, 2012, 09:20:59 PM
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The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.
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March 09, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
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Ok folks, I have some good news with regards to the power requirements for the RigBox.  According to "People Familiar with the Matter" (TM) - the RigBox will use dual 1500w PSUs, meaning they will be 120v/220v switchable units... also meaning you can plug, (presumably) each PSU into a separate circuit to prevent overloading one circuit with impossible current draw.

This also means, I presume, that each PSU will be field replaceable by the end user without too much hassle and downtime.

This pleases me a great deal.


I'm glad they did this. Saves me a couple grand.
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March 09, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
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The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.

No, not necessarily - the extra 500 W could simply be headroom.
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The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.

No, not necessarily - the extra 500 W could simply be headroom.

Yeah. I know how PSU works ( if you have 1200 W PSU it does not pull all the 1200 but only how much you need ) but the sign that a bigger PSU is needed means that the power consumption was AGAIN underestimated and will probably end up being close to 3000 W.
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The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.

No, not necessarily - the extra 500 W could simply be headroom.

Yeah. I know how PSU works ( if you have 1200 W PSU it does not pull all the 1200 but only how much you need ) but the sign that a bigger PSU is needed means that the power consumption was AGAIN underestimated and will probably end up being close to 3000 W.
No, it's because there aren't any 2500 watt PSUs at a reasonable price, and it is cheaper to gang together 2 1500 watt units. Sheesh.

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March 09, 2012, 09:45:10 PM
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Umm.. yeah.  Stop trying to look for faults where none exist.  Two 1500w PSUs are the only option for powering 2500w.  You wouldn't want to run two 1400w units (or 1300w) because they'd be at or near 100% capacity 24/7.  You want your PSU's to run at 60 - 80% capacity.  If you knew anything about PSU's, you'd already know this.

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Well ... actually ... the original faulty estimate was 20W per 1GH/s
That, as everyone knows, blew up to 80W for 832Mh/s (if you ignore Inaba's results except the very best one he got)

The web site now says 50.4GH/s @ 2,500w

Doing a simple 50.4/0.832 x 80W gives 4846W so we are talking almost a halving of the power requirements ... and an 18% reduction in price.
That's gonna be interesting.

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The good news : it can work in the US.

The bad news : it is now 3000 W or needs that big a PSU for stable operation Shocked & still no concrete details about dates or chips etc.

No, not necessarily - the extra 500 W could simply be headroom.

Yeah. I know how PSU works ( if you have 1200 W PSU it does not pull all the 1200 but only how much you need ) but the sign that a bigger PSU is needed means that the power consumption was AGAIN underestimated and will probably end up being close to 3000 W.

balanula, i try to be nice to people on the forums as it is how i want to be treated, but you posts push the limits of my patients. Why are you always trying to find fault and start controversy? Are you unhappy that you didn't buy a single sooner?
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Well ... actually ... the original faulty estimate was 20W per 1GH/s
That, as everyone knows, blew up to 80W for 832Mh/s (if you ignore Inaba's results except the very best one he got)

The web site now says 50.4GH/s @ 2,500w

Doing a simple 50.4/0.832 x 80W gives 4846W so we are talking almost a halving of the power requirements ... and an 18% reduction in price.
That's gonna be interesting.

Unless you bought them at 25k/ea.
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