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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1105397 times)
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July 13, 2017, 01:07:08 AM
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Is it ok that a proof of stake coin is distributing so much of it's coins? Can anyone elaborate as to why this is?

That's the way all coins used to do it. BTC, LTC, and DOGE distribute all their coins to miners, and CLAM distributes all theirs to BTC, LTC, and DOGE holders.

The ideas of staging a massive ICO or having a huge premine to make the developers rich are more recent innovations.

Do you think ICO's are the future and mining & staking are 'past it'? Should we start investing in ICO's rather than staking or mining?
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July 13, 2017, 07:46:11 AM
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Do you think ICO's are the future and mining & staking are 'past it'? Should we start investing in ICO's rather than staking or mining?

I don't know what you should be investing in. I think CLAMs distribution was a good attempt at a fair distribution but unfairly rewarded those who spread their coins out over the most addresses which is pretty arbitrary.

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July 13, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
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I don't know what you should be investing in. I think CLAMs distribution was a good attempt at a fair distribution but unfairly rewarded those who spread their coins out over the most addresses which is pretty arbitrary.

Having coins spread out over the most addresses is (apart from the CLAM distribution) finanically de-incentivized since you pay for each of those inputs when you try to spend something in the way of more-inputs->larger-transaction->larger-fees.  I also realize that you could have lots of inputs at the same "address" but having a value spread across many addresses means you're definitely going to have separate inputs for each when/if you try to spend them.
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July 14, 2017, 05:25:29 PM
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Fortunejack does not accept CLAMs anymore.

Directbet.eu finished its activities.

 

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July 16, 2017, 01:32:36 AM
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I don't know what you should be investing in. I think CLAMs distribution was a good attempt at a fair distribution but unfairly rewarded those who spread their coins out over the most addresses which is pretty arbitrary.

Having coins spread out over the most addresses is (apart from the CLAM distribution) finanically de-incentivized since you pay for each of those inputs when you try to spend something in the way of more-inputs->larger-transaction->larger-fees.  I also realize that you could have lots of inputs at the same "address" but having a value spread across many addresses means you're definitely going to have separate inputs for each when/if you try to spend them.

That's exactly my point. The CLAM distribution rewards the people who didn't respond to the incentives inherent in Bitcoin. At the time of the snapshot I had tens of thousands of addresses but all but 27 of them were empty since I kept the funds consolidated into a few unspent outputs.

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July 16, 2017, 04:14:35 AM
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Why clam is so cheap?
Melon prot is much more expencive than clams, but melon have more coins than clams.
Why that so?

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July 17, 2017, 08:35:48 AM
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How can I run the Clam-qt Clam Wallet Client on a Raspberry Pi 3?
Thanks


I am currently running headless clamd on Raspberry Pi 3 Model B.
The compilation was a bit challenge - mostly the Berkeley part - because the most valuable advices are written on the end of the manual :-). Don't try to install it on your own (like me), just blindly follow the instruction. And also there is missing one "make" command in the instruction. (There is one "make install", without previous "make")

Just I am not sure with the "qt" part.


Thanks for the reply regarding staking clams on rpi. That was going to be my next question staking with a headless setup.
Do you have any docs which would help me do this.
Thx

Hi, I followed the documentation in the Clam git:
https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/blob/master/doc/build-unix.md

I suggest you to start with the "Berkeley DB" part. (There is an missing line, you need to "make" before "make install").
Note: The building of all code takes a lot of time. You can speed up it with using more cores by "make -j4", but it increases CPU temperature a lot. (I forgot to order cooler when I ordered my raspberry so I had to run only on one core to prevent overheating :-D)
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July 17, 2017, 09:23:01 PM
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Note: The building of all code takes a lot of time. You can speed up it with using more cores by "make -j4", but it increases CPU temperature a lot. (I forgot to order cooler when I ordered my raspberry so I had to run only on one core to prevent overheating :-D)

If you setup the cross-compile build options in configure (or autogen) then you should be able to cross-compile for an arm9 using a beefier desktop that runs faster and won't overheat.  Raspberri pis are neat little low-power computers which are very useful and fun for many tasks, but I wouldn't set one up as my build rig.
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July 19, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
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Is it too late to claim som CLAMcoins ? I had BTC in the specific snapshot.

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July 19, 2017, 06:52:24 PM
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Is it too late to claim som CLAMcoins ? I had BTC in the specific snapshot.

Not too late.

I actually just turned up an old BTC wallet yesterday.  I dug them on just-dice.com.  But you can also just import your old btc addresses into the clam wallet.  Cheers!
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July 20, 2017, 07:49:54 AM
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https://twitter.com/CryptoBetting/status/887472875933810688




That was yesterday...






https://twitter.com/CryptoBetting/status/887901208035246081




this was today.




also, https://luckygames.io/?ref=1545125 uses  clam


and peerbet.com uses clam

please update services list

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July 20, 2017, 02:13:58 PM
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wow Gru will wake up and find his 32,000 clam went up $16,000 overnight from price change


32,000 clam x $4.25 = $136,000 in 2 days


congrats bro


so he should get around 50 clam a day stake from clam wallet


50*30 1500 clam a month x $4.25 = $6,375 a month from staking



can live nice and not have to work at all just from selling staked clam.


and in the end still have 32,000 clam

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July 21, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
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Why clam is so cheap?
Melon prot is much more expencive than clams, but melon have more coins than clams.
Why that so?

Because it does not offer anything new?
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July 22, 2017, 11:00:07 PM
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wow Gru will wake up and find his 32,000 clam went up $16,000 overnight from price change


32,000 clam x $4.25 = $136,000 in 2 days


congrats bro


so he should get around 50 clam a day stake from clam wallet


50*30 1500 clam a month x $4.25 = $6,375 a month from staking



can live nice and not have to work at all just from selling staked clam.


and in the end still have 32,000 clam

#HookersAndBlow

http://i.imgur.com/OcYGWUN.png





That was short lived, balance now 0.
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July 25, 2017, 12:53:00 AM
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Easy come, easy go.

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July 25, 2017, 07:00:13 AM
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I am quite new to the cryptocurrency world and have adopted CLAM as my favorite. So far I have staked 36 clam and can expect a reward in about 19 days. That is: If I have set up everything correctly. So far nothing happened and it would be so nice if 1 clam arrived in my client just to prove that everything works as intended.  Grin. Since I'm only 14 days in the/this loop I should be (a lot) more patient though.

So far thanks for all the tips and explanations I found in this thread.

Can anyone tell me if CLAM is actually accepted as a payment currency in any shop or site other than gambling?

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July 25, 2017, 10:06:54 PM
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So far I have staked 36 clam and can expect a reward in about 19 days

Note that every 16 seconds your wallet tries to stake, and has a random chance of being successful. You could manage to stake a block immediately, or it could take months. On average with 36 CLAMs staking you will stake a block about every 20 days I guess, but it's random. You could go 2 months without staking at all, then stake twice in one day.

Just don't be surprised if the reward doesn't come "in about 19 days". It could be much longer or much shorter than that.

Can anyone tell me if CLAM is actually accepted as a payment currency in any shop or site other than gambling?

I'm not sure. There were a couple of people accepting CLAMs.

I remember this one: https://cryptomercado.com/ -- he seems to still be accepting CLAMs for coffee and stuff.

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July 26, 2017, 12:05:37 AM
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Need some help... Google failed me (or perhaps I failed Google)...

I don't have any old wallet.dat files any longer. But I do have several clam-worthy Bitcoin addresses as well as their private keys. Is there a way for me to recreate the wallet.dat files in order to import them into Clam-Qt so that I can claim my allocated clams? Any advice/guidance/clues would be appreciated.

[Later append... I think I'm on the right track... Will post this in case it ever helps someone else:] So I downloaded a pre-HD version of "Multibit Classic"; then exported its private key to a "multibit.key" file; then text-edited that file with my actual clam-filled private key. I found this instruction on the clamclient.com site: "Place the '.key' file in the same folder as clam-qt.exe. Go to 'console' in clam-qt, type 'importwalletdump yourfilename.key'." (We'll see if this works for me. First, I'm waiting for the Clam-Qt client to finish importing the bootstrap.dat file, which could take awhile.)
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Need some help... Google failed me (or perhaps I failed Google)...

I don't have any old wallet.dat files any longer. But I do have several clam-worthy Bitcoin addresses as well as their private keys. Is there a way for me to recreate the wallet.dat files in order to import them into Clam-Qt so that I can claim my allocated clams? Any advice/guidance/clues would be appreciated.

[Later append... I think I'm on the right track... Will post this in case it ever helps someone else:] So I downloaded a pre-HD version of "Multibit Classic"; then exported its private key to a "multibit.key" file; then text-edited that file with my actual clam-filled private key. I found this instruction on the clamclient.com site: "Place the '.key' file in the same folder as clam-qt.exe. Go to 'console' in clam-qt, type 'importwalletdump yourfilename.key'." (We'll see if this works for me. First, I'm waiting for the Clam-Qt client to finish importing the bootstrap.dat file, which could take awhile.)

@Randzzz:
I hope this works for you, but in case it doesn't: I entered my private key at freebitcoins.com (after I emptied that wallet) and got bitcoins in return for about the same value in a different wallet. Later I used those bitcoin to buy 5.5 CLAM  Grin when the exchange rates were more profitable.

@dooglus: I understand that my stake is relatively small and the possibility exists I never get a stake reward. That's why I need to be very patient. It's just that one stake would prove that my setup is correct and the system works. That's all. I'll just wait very (im)patiently.

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July 26, 2017, 08:35:14 AM
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Hi, i just import a btc wallet, to have some free clam

In receive, i have a list of importwallet, but still no clam.

Wallet is fully sync.

Need something more?

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