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January 08, 2018, 09:01:59 AM
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It may sound strange, but I have found about this coin only yesterday. Fortunately, I have found an old wallet.dat backup from the times I used the full BTC client (no bitcoins there anymore). Importing worked and I've got some Clams, but the client cannot sync. First it became stuck on some old block (almost three years ago). I have downloaded the blockchain from cryptochainer.com, and now the client just writes 'out of sync' and does nothing (but it shows 19 active connections to the Clam network). Of course, stacking does not work.
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January 08, 2018, 05:41:28 PM
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It may sound strange, but I have found about this coin only yesterday. Fortunately, I have found an old wallet.dat backup from the times I used the full BTC client (no bitcoins there anymore). Importing worked and I've got some Clams, but the client cannot sync. First it became stuck on some old block (almost three years ago). I have downloaded the blockchain from cryptochainer.com, and now the client just writes 'out of sync' and does nothing (but it shows 19 active connections to the Clam network). Of course, stacking does not work.
I don't know what cryptochainer is but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191 there you got the bootstrap.

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January 08, 2018, 06:06:05 PM
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It may sound strange, but I have found about this coin only yesterday. Fortunately, I have found an old wallet.dat backup from the times I used the full BTC client (no bitcoins there anymore). Importing worked and I've got some Clams, but the client cannot sync. First it became stuck on some old block (almost three years ago). I have downloaded the blockchain from cryptochainer.com, and now the client just writes 'out of sync' and does nothing (but it shows 19 active connections to the Clam network). Of course, stacking does not work.
I don't know what cryptochainer is but https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191 there you got the bootstrap.

Thanks. I've downloaded the bootstrap file, but importing is incredibly slow. I hope it can be interrupted and then restarted for the position where it stopped, otherwise I would probably not be able to complete the process at all.
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January 08, 2018, 09:52:12 PM
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Does the client overwrite the decrypted keys (a) when the client "locks" after the specified period and (b) before the client exits?

Yes, looks like it does to me.

I recently found a bug in the unlocking code. If you ask it to unlock for too many seconds, it instantly relocks. I would suggest never using more than a 9 digit number of seconds to be on the same side.

As an example, try unlocking for 2^31 = 2147483648 seconds and it will instantly relock, but unlock for one less second than that and it works.

The same thing happens in Bitcoin Core, but only when you get up to around 2^63/1000 seconds, which is a much bigger number. I reported it here:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12100

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I have downloaded the blockchain from cryptochainer.com, and now the client just writes 'out of sync' and does nothing (but it shows 19 active connections to the Clam network). Of course, stacking does not work.

I've not heard of that site before. [Edit: I checked it out; couple of problems: 1) it's a zip archive of the CLAM client's data directory after syncing the blockchain; you have to trust the site not to have planted fake utxos in their db; you're better off downloading a bootstrap file and processing it yourself. 2) it only contains 1686 MB of block data whereas the CLAM blockchain currently has 2193 MB of data, so it's quite out of date. ]

I just updated my copy of the CLAM blockchain here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623147.msg9772191#msg9772191

The CLAM client gets stuck occasionally. If you stop and restart it when it gets stuck it should eventually sync.

Xploited is working on a new version of the CLAM client which should be a lot better at syncing, but it's not ready for release yet.

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January 08, 2018, 10:14:45 PM
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Thanks. I've downloaded the bootstrap file, but importing is incredibly slow. I hope it can be interrupted and then restarted for the position where it stopped, otherwise I would probably not be able to complete the process at all.

Try turning off your Internet connection while it's importing. Does it keep importing? If not, you're not using the bootstrap file. It shouldn't be that slow.

If you stop and restart the client it will continue where it left off.

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January 09, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
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Thanks. I've downloaded the bootstrap file, but importing is incredibly slow. I hope it can be interrupted and then restarted for the position where it stopped, otherwise I would probably not be able to complete the process at all.

Try turning off your Internet connection while it's importing. Does it keep importing? If not, you're not using the bootstrap file. It shouldn't be that slow.

If you stop and restart the client it will continue where it left off.

It says "Importing blocks..." and continues from where it stopped, but it is incredibly slow. Probably going to take several days at least. I'm running it in a virtual machine (as some other altcoins), but it is still too slow.

What is the expected probability/percentage of staking?
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January 09, 2018, 05:44:14 PM
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Thanks. I've downloaded the bootstrap file, but importing is incredibly slow. I hope it can be interrupted and then restarted for the position where it stopped, otherwise I would probably not be able to complete the process at all.

Try turning off your Internet connection while it's importing. Does it keep importing? If not, you're not using the bootstrap file. It shouldn't be that slow.

If you stop and restart the client it will continue where it left off.

It says "Importing blocks..." and continues from where it stopped, but it is incredibly slow. Probably going to take several days at least. I'm running it in a virtual machine (as some other altcoins), but it is still too slow.

What is the expected probability/percentage of staking?
Estimated return in clams (NO COMPOUNDING) :: ... 41.0331677% return/year ... 3.3725891% return/month ... 0.1124196% return/day ... 0.0046842% return/hour ... 0.0000781% return/minute ... 0.0000013% return/second

I know nothing about probabilities but I do know that with small amount of coins staking outside of just-dice or other pool might be a bit unconvenient/difficult.

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January 09, 2018, 06:49:18 PM
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Estimated return in clams (NO COMPOUNDING) :: ... 41.0331677% return/year ... 3.3725891% return/month ... 0.1124196% return/day ... 0.0046842% return/hour ... 0.0000781% return/minute ... 0.0000013% return/second

I know nothing about probabilities but I do know that with small amount of coins staking outside of just-dice or other pool might be a bit unconvenient/difficult.

41% is not bad. If there are staking pools for Clams, it probably makes sense to send my coins there. Which one would you recommend?
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January 09, 2018, 07:13:15 PM
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Estimated return in clams (NO COMPOUNDING) :: ... 41.0331677% return/year ... 3.3725891% return/month ... 0.1124196% return/day ... 0.0046842% return/hour ... 0.0000781% return/minute ... 0.0000013% return/second

I know nothing about probabilities but I do know that with small amount of coins staking outside of just-dice or other pool might be a bit unconvenient/difficult.

41% is not bad. If there are staking pools for Clams, it probably makes sense to send my coins there. Which one would you recommend?
Definetly just-dice.com , it's also gambling site so if you choose to leverage the investment youll feel the gambling profits aswell.

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What is the expected probability/percentage of staking?

Just-Dice.com is staking 1083323 CLAMs and staked 1236 times yesterday. That's one stake per day per 876 CLAMs, or 0.114% per day.

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Definetly just-dice.com , it's also gambling site so if you choose to leverage the investment youll feel the gambling profits aswell.

Thanks, I'll try it.
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What is the expected probability/percentage of staking?

Just-Dice.com is staking 1083323 CLAMs and staked 1236 times yesterday. That's one stake per day per 876 CLAMs, or 0.114% per day.

Thanks, I'll definitely give it a try.
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January 09, 2018, 10:53:50 PM
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I had trouble synchronizing, only getting a few or no active connections to the network.

Adding nodes manually through the console command addnode seems to have fixed this.

www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/nodes.php
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January 10, 2018, 02:35:38 AM
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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead
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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead
if u check github:"committed on 20 Jan 2017" :/
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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead

Yeah social networks arent that used.
>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead
if u check github:"committed on 20 Jan 2017" :/
@dooglus ? Info please
A new release is on testnet right now I think.

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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead

Yeah social networks arent that used.
>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.
Who is the dev? im checking twitter and its dead
if u check github:"committed on 20 Jan 2017" :/
@dooglus ? Info please
A new release is on testnet right now I think.
Who is working on it?

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January 10, 2018, 06:41:13 PM
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Estimated return in clams (NO COMPOUNDING) :: ... 41.0331677% return/year ... 3.3725891% return/month ... 0.1124196% return/day ... 0.0046842% return/hour ... 0.0000781% return/minute ... 0.0000013% return/second

I know nothing about probabilities but I do know that with small amount of coins staking outside of just-dice or other pool might be a bit unconvenient/difficult.

41% is not bad. If there are staking pools for Clams, it probably makes sense to send my coins there. Which one would you recommend?
Definetly just-dice.com , it's also gambling site so if you choose to leverage the investment youll feel the gambling profits aswell.

I second this. You dont necessarily have to gamble, it's possible yo just leave your coins there for staking. It gives extensive stats too, like you can know how much profit you got at the moment.

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January 10, 2018, 07:14:56 PM
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Estimated return in clams (NO COMPOUNDING) :: ... 41.0331677% return/year ... 3.3725891% return/month ... 0.1124196% return/day ... 0.0046842% return/hour ... 0.0000781% return/minute ... 0.0000013% return/second

I know nothing about probabilities but I do know that with small amount of coins staking outside of just-dice or other pool might be a bit unconvenient/difficult.

41% is not bad. If there are staking pools for Clams, it probably makes sense to send my coins there. Which one would you recommend?
Definetly just-dice.com , it's also gambling site so if you choose to leverage the investment youll feel the gambling profits aswell.

I second this. You dont necessarily have to gamble, it's possible yo just leave your coins there for staking. It gives extensive stats too, like you can know how much profit you got at the moment.

Registered, sent some Clams there (fortunately, complete sync is not required for sending) and invested them. Works flawlessly, profits already covered the transaction fee Grin
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