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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1148548 times)
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January 04, 2018, 03:14:31 PM
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Dooglus, thank You.
One more question, unlocking for staking is valid for some time or until wallet is closed?

I am considering to put 5 btc on staking (in Clam of course) for long time.
Safety is very important for me.

Am I safe if wallet.dat is stolen and encrypted (but unlocked for staking only).

I can't answer for sure but I'd say the decryption happens in memory only, not "on disk", so your wallet.dat file will still be encrypted.

But there are two other security concerns I can think of, which apply if the attacker has control over your computer (rather than something less sophisticated like stealing your wallet.dat via an accidental network share)

1. A key logger. This will give the attacker your password as you type it.

2. If the attacker can read arbitrary memory locations, they may be able to locate the decrypted private keys that are necessary to stake.

If you're going to invest 5 BTC it may be worth considering building a custom machine. Lock it down tight, and only allow outbound connects on the CLAM port. Disallow everything else.

Hi experts,

Hope someone can help clarify a few questions I have here:

1. What's a good reliable exchange to convert dogecoins to clams? I know shapeshift.io allows this conversion but reading the last 26 pages, there were a few concerns raised on shapeshift.io being "spotty", and transactions actually go via poloniex (? correct me if I'm wrong) which recently reduced trading capabilities on clams (margin trading I believe).  So this doesn't really illicit a lot of confidence.

2. Regarding the quote above, does it mean it's not advisable to simply keep the qt client open for staking on a normal PC?  How do the regular clam holders do it? I believe security is a concern for everyone so this should be important to address (thanks to the original poster of the question).

Thanks.

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Dooglus, thank You.
One more question, unlocking for staking is valid for some time or until wallet is closed?

I am considering to put 5 btc on staking (in Clam of course) for long time.
Safety is very important for me.

Am I safe if wallet.dat is stolen and encrypted (but unlocked for staking only).

I can't answer for sure but I'd say the decryption happens in memory only, not "on disk", so your wallet.dat file will still be encrypted.

But there are two other security concerns I can think of, which apply if the attacker has control over your computer (rather than something less sophisticated like stealing your wallet.dat via an accidental network share)

1. A key logger. This will give the attacker your password as you type it.

2. If the attacker can read arbitrary memory locations, they may be able to locate the decrypted private keys that are necessary to stake.

If you're going to invest 5 BTC it may be worth considering building a custom machine. Lock it down tight, and only allow outbound connects on the CLAM port. Disallow everything else.

Hi experts,

Hope someone can help clarify a few questions I have here:

1. What's a good reliable exchange to convert dogecoins to clams? I know shapeshift.io allows this conversion but reading the last 26 pages, there were a few concerns raised on shapeshift.io being "spotty", and transactions actually go via poloniex (? correct me if I'm wrong) which recently reduced trading capabilities on clams (margin trading I believe).  So this doesn't really illicit a lot of confidence.

2. Regarding the quote above, does it mean it's not advisable to simply keep the qt client open for staking on a normal PC?  How do the regular clam holders do it? I believe security is a concern for everyone so this should be important to address (thanks to the original poster of the question).

Thanks.

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January 04, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
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I used Bittrex recently, because Poloniex had problems with CLAMs. But you have to convert it first to/from Bitcoin.
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January 04, 2018, 08:36:32 PM
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there were a few concerns raised on shapeshift.io being "spotty", and transactions actually go via poloniex (? correct me if I'm wrong)

Shapeshift will send you coins from their own wallet, but use coins on Poloniex to mimic the trade as well.

Which is actually pretty good because Poloniex is a fucking shit show and paying the little extra to avoid them... maybe worth it if the transaction is large enough to not get pwned % wise by "miner fees" (which don't actually go to the miners in my experiences.)


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January 04, 2018, 10:54:03 PM
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I just have a feeling something really good is going to happen with Clam.  See you at $100 per clam!

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January 04, 2018, 11:38:43 PM
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I just have a feeling something really good is going to happen with Clam.  See you at $100 per clam!

I agree


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January 05, 2018, 01:47:24 AM
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@technerd
BLEUTRADE has CLAM/DOGE - DOGE/CLAM markets, take a look.

Thanks. Will have a look at Bleutrade.

I used Bittrex recently, because Poloniex had problems with CLAMs. But you have to convert it first to/from Bitcoin.

Thanks. My bittrex account was suddenly required to do enhanced verification, so I have not gotten to it yet. But will check it out once I have everything sorted out.


Shapeshift will send you coins from their own wallet, but use coins on Poloniex to mimic the trade as well.

Which is actually pretty good because Poloniex is a fucking shit show and paying the little extra to avoid them... maybe worth it if the transaction is large enough to not get pwned % wise by "miner fees" (which don't actually go to the miners in my experiences.)

Thanks. So if I understand correctly, shapeshift is fine, other than the higher extra fees?

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January 05, 2018, 02:09:28 AM
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Absolutely fine.  

Above average in fact.


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January 05, 2018, 02:34:37 AM
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Problem on Poloniex:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

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January 05, 2018, 03:19:39 AM
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Problem on Poloniex:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

Poloniex is absolutely fucking HORRIBLE.

I have CLAM deposits not showing up + they are requiring manual approval for my pending Bitcoins... It has been two business days for the Bitcoins.


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Devs, will you further distribute free CLAM for BTC holders? I have another block, that was a matter for initial distribution, but may be it will be another new stakes?
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Where can I find CLAMs roadmap, information about development plans or whitepaper? I couldn't find it on website.
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January 05, 2018, 11:13:06 AM
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Devs, will you further distribute free CLAM for BTC holders? I have another block, that was a matter for initial distribution, but may be it will be another new stakes?

Clam could go a long way more (like LTC), but I think more distribution and spreading Clams could be needed.

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January 05, 2018, 11:36:55 AM
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Devs, will you further distribute free CLAM for BTC holders? I have another block, that was a matter for initial distribution, but may be it will be another new stakes?

Clam could go a long way more (like LTC), but I think more distribution and spreading Clams could be needed.

As investor in $$$ I don't find it very good, free clams idea.

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January 05, 2018, 11:57:07 AM
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Absolutely fine.  

Above average in fact.

Thanks everyone for all the advise!

Done the exchange via Shapeshift. I can say it was a breeze!

I also checked BleuTrade, I really liked the interface.  But the response time was a bit slow from my location; perhaps I'm far away from their servers.

All the best to CLAMS!

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January 05, 2018, 12:49:34 PM
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Devs, will you further distribute free CLAM for BTC holders? I have another block, that was a matter for initial distribution, but may be it will be another new stakes?

Clam could go a long way more (like LTC), but I think more distribution and spreading Clams could be needed.

As investor in $$$ I don't find it very good, free clams idea.


You give someone a crumb and they want the whole cookie (and buy it).  Raises awareness.  There are some sitting on an extraordinary amount of clam.  Makes distribution/decentralization poor.

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January 05, 2018, 03:23:17 PM
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One more question, unlocking for staking is valid for some time or until wallet is closed?

I am considering to put 5 btc on staking (in Clam of course) for long time.
Safety is very important for me.

Am I safe if wallet.dat is stolen and encrypted (but unlocked for staking only).

If you use the RPC call to unlock it, you have to specify a number of seconds to leave it unlocked for.

I'm not familiar with how the GUI works. I never use it.

The wallet.dat file itself doesn't change when it is unlocked. The password is in RAM only. So if someone steals the file all they get is the encrypted version. But if they're smart they'll look in RAM and grab the password from there. "unlock for staking" still requires your private keys to be accessible to the client, and so they're also theoretically available to anyone with access to your system.

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January 05, 2018, 04:05:39 PM
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I made as you describe but when I insert in the console my BTC address private key it says that it's not a valid private key (error -5).
I write importprivkey <privatekey>

You know not to type the < and > characters, right?

I just tried generating a couple of BTC addresses and private keys using bitaddress.org and was able to import them using the 'importprivkey' RPC:

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$ clamd importprivkey Kzf95MZgZ2ZGU4FWni6BmUpAaicu1oJSqpedeyqG4FBSdVNYfCPw '' false
$ clamd importprivkey L5YCDqiPNvvmTxPvnr9jPcNXubLCSTuSdviXeyJiAM22L72xBFs1
$

The first one is quick since the 'false' means not to rescan the chain to find any transactions involving that key. The second one is slow, but is what you'll need to do to claim your CLAMs.

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January 05, 2018, 10:12:51 PM
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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.
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January 06, 2018, 12:43:25 AM
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>Poloniex message:

CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before enabling.

It seems to be a standard text message that they put up for any coin they're having trouble with.

They don't reply to developer attempts to help them so I don't know what's wrong.

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