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Author Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos  (Read 1484216 times)
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June 11, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
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Anyone love the new option on Mintpal?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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June 11, 2014, 08:31:10 PM
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Anyone love the new option on Mintpal?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Which one is that?
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June 11, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
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Anyone love the new option on Mintpal?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Nice topic change.  Cheesy
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June 11, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
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Please excuse my ignorance here............

So the batch file that runs the Xnode "run-xc-xnode-mainnet.bat" runs this command line "x11coin-qt.exe -xmixer -listen -server".  Isn't "-xmixer -listen -server" already being set via the config file?  Can it stop Xnode from working if being told these commands twice?
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June 11, 2014, 08:37:57 PM
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So when you send from original address A to the receiving address D , it goes to the mixer B, the mixer makes a new address C to send the amount to the receiver D? And Chaeplin doesn't get only A?

And chaeplin is adding that the mixer only uses one address for you, so once you know A, you can trace it. Which is what I said before. You have to assume A is known.

I see, thanks. So there is no direct link but if you are forced to show your address then they can prove that you made a specific transaction.

There are two conversations going on here at once. I want to deal with this side issue.
You have to assume the user's address is known.
Why? Bitcoin can change your address right now and use the same wallet...so some people think it's anonymous. It's not because you can tie all the transactions one person does back to an address. Once the address is known, you know all the transactions...bitcoin has always had that level of anonymity. This already exists in every implementation of every crypto-coin.

That means nothing to this conversation.



ATCSecure, I would appreciate if you could confirm this fact...since so many people jumping into this conversation - mistakenly do not understand this fact and its clouding the discussion which could be constructive.

This is the fundamental principle on which your solution is built. The problem it is trying to solve, correct? Anonymizing a transaction even if the sender or receiver is known.


Yes the REV1 release hides sender even if you know the receiver's address

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June 11, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
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in other news, can anyone point me to the latest wallet?

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June 11, 2014, 08:39:04 PM
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I think I need a whitepaper to really understand how this works Smiley

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June 11, 2014, 08:39:48 PM
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in other news, can anyone point me to the latest wallet?


http://xc-official.com/release/wallets/
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June 11, 2014, 08:41:46 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all in bold font.

Did Chaeplin find the original sender address in the challenge? Yes or no?
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June 11, 2014, 08:42:04 PM
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http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...







lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards

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June 11, 2014, 08:42:16 PM
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Thank you!
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June 11, 2014, 08:43:25 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all in bold font.

Did Chaeplin find the original sender address in the challenge? Yes or no?


NO
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June 11, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
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http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...







lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards


I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0


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June 11, 2014, 08:44:40 PM
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http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...







lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards


I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0




and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment


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June 11, 2014, 08:46:44 PM
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http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...







lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards


I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0




and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment




Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV  SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


now - can that be tied back to the original transaction?Huh



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June 11, 2014, 08:48:34 PM
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http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


There is the wallet that received a mix transaction...







lets start with this wallet that received a payment from the mixer
and we can walk through it backwards


I'll make it easy

this is the received mix transaction


http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/9bc580ea9b7ec69d53dbc28e9cc42f1ea810925137d6cc8c1011e904f7c18bac#o0




and you have address XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV - which made the payment




Okay so we know 2 things, XZvkTGD9hMiRuMByqCkHgRTNAu5J5fWnJV  SENT a payment to XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ


now - can that be tied back to the original transaction?Huh




hmm..

anything here?

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/7e6c9025fb8d0040a19c8dfcd046ca5202703a4d125b61d70ad2c3f278b4c204


or this

http://cryptexplorer.com/block/a74c8d32fc952dc8c277e46342cf34592dfe65ab9a79c2e6226f7864b14b83fb


Huh



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June 11, 2014, 08:50:14 PM
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ATC what's the timeline for REV 2 roughly? I think about 2 weeks ago you said it would be 3 to 4 weeks? Does that mean you are expecting to release REV 2 in 1 - 2 weeks from now?

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June 11, 2014, 08:50:57 PM
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Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction


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June 11, 2014, 08:51:42 PM
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Hmm. I don't see any link back to the original transaction




maybe this will help


original transaction --->>>> which was sent TO this address "XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G"


http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XYyMMG1VQHyRhAQWGdRQ9AEfdwSuG7w18G


so now I've revealed the transaction ^^^^^ with this data you should be able to find the original senders wallet ^^^^^^ then take that original senders wallet and search XVrqrpe2ZDmykAnjcAHN6McbuDEjBZSvRZ for the link






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June 11, 2014, 08:52:12 PM
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Here's a non-technical version of how the mixer works

https://i.imgur.com/AAu0Ew9.jpg


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