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June 12, 2014, 01:15:41 PM |
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something wrong with XC?
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sukottosan_d
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June 12, 2014, 01:17:45 PM |
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Here, I am done - I think this makes sense.
Read this while reviewing the flow chaeplin posted:
The transactions sent from the mixer (C) to the end address is of a set size (his example was 10). This is D.
He can then search the blockchain for possible candidates (value 10) via a script. Which gets us to block 28531 - this matches the 10.00 XC value. This can be linked at blocked 28533 with the mixer C - we already know C (output 9.99999).
This allows him to trace back to 28531 in the blockchain - to find the values that == 10.00 and match to a specific address - in this case: XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa which is B.
You can then take all the transactions for this address B - review them and find two matching amounts that == 10 which belong to one single address. This address is A. Since this address B has never been used before this transaction - this is easy to do - and - even if it had multiple transactions - they would not all related back to one single point with one single value (10).
Just for the record, - I think this is right.
Again - I'm participating to participate - nothing else.
If my logic is flawed, let me know please, this is vexing me - because this looks right and all I get is nothing constructive back.
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dadon
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June 12, 2014, 01:19:25 PM |
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something wrong with XC?
no nothing wrong, possibly something wrong with your eyes though cause you can't seam to read, answering questions for your self is so much rewarding then asking others to do the work for you, not trying to be mean but you only have to read the last 2 pages to see what's going on. |
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June 12, 2014, 01:21:50 PM |
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Hey guys, Fear here. Also Closetmonster for miscers. If you remember me, my friends and I started the big pump for XC. We didnt expect huge fud to drop the price but it had to be done. That being said, insider info. we love this coin.  Cheers you people are still messing around with chaeplin and leave fearcoka's comment like this? you people are not die hard XCers... ty fearcoka for ur reply, I am inclined to stock up, NOW. |
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June 12, 2014, 01:28:18 PM |
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Here, I am done - I think this makes sense.
Read this while reviewing the flow chaeplin posted:
The transactions sent from the mixer (C) to the end address is of a set size (his example was 10). This is D.
He can then search the blockchain for possible candidates (value 10) via a script. Which gets us to block 28531 - this matches the 10.00 XC value. This can be linked at blocked 28533 with the mixer C - we already know C (output 9.99999).
This allows him to trace back to 28531 in the blockchain - to find the values that == 10.00 and match to a specific address - in this case: XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa which is B.
You can then take all the transactions for this address B - review them and find two matching amounts that == 10 which belong to one single address. This address is A. Since this address B has never been used before this transaction - this is easy to do - and - even if it had multiple transactions - they would not all related back to one single point with one single value (10).
Thanks, this seems a clear explanation. To prevent this kind of tracking, the solution could be multiple node used for one transaction. Is this the multipath revision announced by the dev? What is DRK solution to prevent this kind of analysis? |
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June 12, 2014, 01:29:05 PM |
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Here, I am done - I think this makes sense.
Read this while reviewing the flow chaeplin posted:
The transactions sent from the mixer (C) to the end address is of a set size (his example was 10). This is D.
He can then search the blockchain for possible candidates (value 10) via a script. Which gets us to block 28531 - this matches the 10.00 XC value. This can be linked at blocked 28533 with the mixer C - we already know C (output 9.99999).
This allows him to trace back to 28531 in the blockchain - to find the values that == 10.00 and match to a specific address - in this case: XQdBjeQtH1JGrkd2MWcXbtsRVeKHWZbnqa which is B.
You can then take all the transactions for this address B - review them and find two matching amounts that == 10 which belong to one single address. This address is A. Since this address B has never been used before this transaction - this is easy to do - and - even if it had multiple transactions - they would not all related back to one single point with one single value (10).
Just for the record, - I think this is right.
Again - I'm participating to participate - nothing else.
If my logic is flawed, let me know please, this is vexing me - because this looks right and all I get is nothing constructive back.
Thank you . |
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June 12, 2014, 01:29:40 PM |
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B and C can be used to single input.
Do you mean B and C can be used connected to single input. ? If you mean this then HOW can they be ? multiple input to a single transaction. Mixer use your wallet. Check my post. It's all about that. |
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 01:29:56 PM |
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I completely agree with you. Chaeplin has demonstrated a logical flow of the transaction and this needs to be addressed. Simply saying FUD is no counter argument. Either agree that the current system is flawed and will be fixed or prove that chaeplin is wrong.
chaeplin is the only one providing quality QA for this coin. You need these people to find the problems so they can be fixed.
Great work !!!!!!!!!! My MasterNode on testnet is behaving well and giving me payouts so all looking good for the fork. Oooh... ANOTHER DRK troll caring about XC. How nice of you... How's that Masternode working out for you? FoldingTime is right, like it or not. What is trolling is unsubstantiated accusations. So, out of curiosity, the 60 masternodes split 150 DRK/ block? And you need 1000 DRK to run a masternode? (~15BTC) http://23.23.186.131:1234/block/000000015add6d1884ccef07093783ebd4cc196ed4b15353a215512fcf36aa2d |
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 01:32:55 PM |
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Hey guys, Fear here. Also Closetmonster for miscers. If you remember me, my friends and I started the big pump for XC. We didnt expect huge fud to drop the price but it had to be done. That being said, insider info. we love this coin. Cheers you people are still messing around with chaeplin and leave fearcoka's comment like this? you people are not die hard XCers... ty fearcoka for ur reply, I am inclined to stock up, NOW. I have been filling.... filling..... thanks for the push below .0012 while I was dreaming.... |
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June 12, 2014, 01:33:11 PM |
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I completely agree with you. Chaeplin has demonstrated a logical flow of the transaction and this needs to be addressed. Simply saying FUD is no counter argument. Either agree that the current system is flawed and will be fixed or prove that chaeplin is wrong.
chaeplin is the only one providing quality QA for this coin. You need these people to find the problems so they can be fixed.
Great work !!!!!!!!!! My MasterNode on testnet is behaving well and giving me payouts so all looking good for the fork. Oooh... ANOTHER DRK troll caring about XC. How nice of you... How's that Masternode working out for you? FoldingTime is right, like it or not. What is trolling is unsubstantiated accusations. So, out of curiosity, the 60 masternodes split 150 DRK/ block? And you need 1000 DRK to run a masternode? (~15BTC) http://23.23.186.131:1234/block/000000015add6d1884ccef07093783ebd4cc196ed4b15353a215512fcf36aa2dOn mainnet there are hundreds. |
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 01:35:19 PM |
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I completely agree with you. Chaeplin has demonstrated a logical flow of the transaction and this needs to be addressed. Simply saying FUD is no counter argument. Either agree that the current system is flawed and will be fixed or prove that chaeplin is wrong.
chaeplin is the only one providing quality QA for this coin. You need these people to find the problems so they can be fixed.
Great work !!!!!!!!!! My MasterNode on testnet is behaving well and giving me payouts so all looking good for the fork. Oooh... ANOTHER DRK troll caring about XC. How nice of you... How's that Masternode working out for you? FoldingTime is right, like it or not. What is trolling is unsubstantiated accusations. So, out of curiosity, the 60 masternodes split 150 DRK/ block? And you need 1000 DRK to run a masternode? (~15BTC) http://23.23.186.131:1234/block/000000015add6d1884ccef07093783ebd4cc196ed4b15353a215512fcf36aa2dOn mainnet there are hundreds. t y |
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 01:39:25 PM |
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 01:42:27 PM |
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June 12, 2014, 01:43:46 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2014, 01:55:55 PM by silverkinguk |
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Hey a lot of things happening in the background with this coin,dumpers will feel really silly later.
I'm part of the XC Foundation and have been featured on the World Crypto Network on youtube.
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June 12, 2014, 01:47:33 PM |
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I am happy to own 1150 of these babies (up from 465) , they are all I could afford with my small amount of BTC, but I know the potential of XC and thats why I will be holding this coin for a long time to come.
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June 12, 2014, 02:04:59 PM |
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Seems like indeed there is a blockchain connection. At least in this state. Yes REV2 or the next patch will fix this but the dev made a test because he was sure there is no link. I think he should swallow his ego, pay the bounty and fix the problem. I'm not sure how will he fix this before REV2 without locking the XNODE coins. An address can be deleted from the wallet but it will still be used as a reference for the next transaction.
Thanks to chaeplin and the rest for the work and expertise. He helped this coin more than the defensive speculators in this thread using "arguments" like "but DRK is not anon either..." or "this is only REV1".
@short term speculators in this thread: don't worry, this bug won't affect the price as the whales control the market. It will only make this coin stronger.
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 02:30:26 PM |
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the hourly says "GO"
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evtrmm
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June 12, 2014, 02:37:44 PM |
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Hey a lot of things happening in the background with this coin,dumpers will feel really silly later.
I'm part of the XC Foundation and have been featured on the World Crypto Network on youtube.
Glad to have you. so what is going on with the Foundation? |
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June 12, 2014, 02:44:10 PM |
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The Foundation's main goals are to bring XC into the mainstream. XC is still in it's early days of development but we plan to in time follow through with the objectives set in the mission statement.For now enjoy the cheap XC values. I myself with a business partner will be helping with the ATM/POS adoption of XC as we have experience with bringing UK first two way Bitcoin ATM in London: http://www.coindesk.com/robocoin-machine-heats-competition-londons-bitcoin-atms/ |
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dadon
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June 12, 2014, 02:45:49 PM |
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Seems like indeed there is a blockchain connection. At least in this state. Yes REV2 or the next patch will fix this but the dev made a test because he was sure there is no link. I think he should swallow his ego, pay the bounty and fix the problem. I'm not sure how will he fix this before REV2 without locking the XNODE coins. An address can be deleted from the wallet but it will still be used as a reference for the next transaction.
Thanks to chaeplin and the rest for the work and expertise. He helped this coin more than the defensive speculators in this thread using "arguments" like "but DRK is not anon either..." or "this is only REV1".
@short term speculators in this thread: don't worry, this bug won't affect the price as the whales control the market. It will only make this coin stronger.
there may be a problem, and it's small, but you must be delusional if you think cheplin is trying to help us, he is doing his best to find flaws in XC not so we can improve it, but to hurt it, because he is invested in DRK, he may of identified important flaws, even though this is rev 1 and the Dev said from the get go rev 1 would not be 100% anon, but this is not because he has a kind heart and wants to help us, the suggestion of this makes me roll my eyes....rev 2 it will be fixed, and all the drk boys will have to actually work harder on there product more instead of slapping it together calling them selves king,and slandering any competition that comes along, i'm not concerned still only a month old and we are neck to neck with drk that is 6 months old, so cheplin and all your sad little friends, best think of a better attack plan, concentrate on improving your own product because frankly it's a piece of shit that doesn't work, and Evan just used to get rich off, and soon after rev 2 and you can't trace the transactions anymore, you will have nothing but slanderous tweets to save your sorry excuse for cryto innovation, i would just dump and buy XC because seriously nothing can save DRK. |
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