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October 30, 2014, 08:02:40 PM |
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- Specifically, XC's funding comes from Dan's corporation, which has pioneered IP over RF in marine environments.
If you want to bring up Dan's corporation in an official statement and mention that it funds XC development then there should not be a problem naming that corporation, right? If XC is official as the name suggests and everything is legit then transparency shouldn't be an issue. Clear information helps investors make sound decisions. It's ATC Corp. Was it incorporated in MA.? Yes it was I've discovered an ATC Corp. and ATC Corporation in MA, both dissolved in the 80s. I can provide those links to show I am not fudding if needed. Any further search suggestions? Seeing how I was in high school then, those are not relevant entities
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October 30, 2014, 08:03:53 PM |
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- Specifically, XC's funding comes from Dan's corporation, which has pioneered IP over RF in marine environments.
If you want to bring up Dan's corporation in an official statement and mention that it funds XC development then there should not be a problem naming that corporation, right? If XC is official as the name suggests and everything is legit then transparency shouldn't be an issue. Clear information helps investors make sound decisions. It's ATC Corp. Was it incorporated in MA.? Yes it was I've discovered an ATC Corp. and ATC Corporation in MA, both dissolved in the 80s. I can provide those links to show I am not fudding if needed. Any further search suggestions? Seeing how I was in high school then, those are not relevant entities So maybe we don't have the name right? [EDIT] I've found what I was looking for. I'm not trying to work against you here Dan. I just needed some personal verification after the pre-mine issue came up and seemed somewhat brushed off.
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October 30, 2014, 08:06:40 PM |
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You can delete my posts all you want but being that the guy in charge here is the same guy who just proved he cant be trusted, it is relevant to this coin or token or whatever it is.
' Trusted? Really - I used it to run this project - the proof is in the puddy and I did nothing wrong or un-ethical with the premine. So stop spreading FUD If the premine was in fact used to pay for PR, community managers and other things used to develop XC then I don`t see why the huge hurricane of shit. Yes things could have been a little more laid out in the open, but all that has happened here is the people looking to FUD found a foot hold on something that shook investor confidence and rode it into the ground. There needs to be a more professional way to handle this thread. Since XC plans to incorporate itself in the near future into a full fledge business. We need to start handling this thread and the FUD in a more zero tolerance manner. Fuck all the cries about censorship and yaddy yaddy yadda. We need this to be a place of business for investors and new investors. If we plan to incorporate soon as a business, then we need to handle our investor relations (ie this thread) like a business. This is not how to run a successful business. All things aside.. thanks for the cheap coins @ 44 and 48. I like getting cheap XC, just not this way.
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October 30, 2014, 08:10:08 PM |
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I think it would help calm the waters if we could have a statement of how Dan's development time will be affected by his second project - the Blocknet.
Up until now it seems like Dan has been putting 100% of his working week into XC.
How is that now going to change. 50% of his time into XC, 50% into Blocknet? 20% XC, 80% Blocknet.?
In the Blocknet topic, Blocknet is described as being backed by Dan.
^ Could someone on the XC team please answer this. It's clear the Blocknet is taking up time from both Synechist and Dan and I believe this is one reason why XC has tanked badly. And to the people FUD-ing non-stop, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Unicornfarts and wooder being two obvious ones. I've honestly NEVER seen any crypto hit with so much FUD.
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October 30, 2014, 08:10:39 PM |
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Like I said earlier. Another day of whiney cry babies. Some people can't handle crypto.
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October 30, 2014, 08:11:08 PM |
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You can delete my posts all you want but being that the guy in charge here is the same guy who just proved he cant be trusted, it is relevant to this coin or token or whatever it is.
' Trusted? Really - I used it to run this project - the proof is in the puddy and I did nothing wrong or un-ethical with the premine. So stop spreading FUD its not FUD, fud is bullshit and most likely manipulation to gain something. when you tell people you will be transparent about the premine and then spend it. all of it. and not tell your community you lose the right to call yourself transparent. That's not FUD, those are facts. There's a big difference. You can't cover up every fact that has occured by calling it fud. that isn't ethical, honest or even something that people do unless their goal is to mislead. It has been stated numerous times in the thread that the premine was being used to fund this project, and the address containing the premine was public. And it was also stated that I was funding core development out of my own pocket. There is nothing to cover up, your twisting the situation to suit your own view point and creating FUD
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October 30, 2014, 08:15:49 PM |
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I think it would help calm the waters if we could have a statement of how Dan's development time will be affected by his second project - the Blocknet.
Up until now it seems like Dan has been putting 100% of his working week into XC.
How is that now going to change. 50% of his time into XC, 50% into Blocknet? 20% XC, 80% Blocknet.?
In the Blocknet topic, Blocknet is described as being backed by Dan.
^ Could someone on the XC team please answer this. It's clear the Blocknet is taking up time from both Synechist and Dan and I believe this is one reason why XC has tanked badly. And to the people FUD-ing non-stop, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Unicornfarts and wooder being two obvious ones. I've honestly NEVER seen any crypto hit with so much FUD. I'm just sleeping less, so the amount of time really isn't going to change as I have brought on additional resources specifically for blocknet
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October 30, 2014, 08:17:06 PM |
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Dan - are you and the team considering attending any upcoming cryptocurrency conferences? I'm sure promoting XC and Blocknet is a priority for 2015. I know you guys attended one awhile back. Just wondering if that will be happening again. Keep up the solid work. Thanks.
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October 30, 2014, 08:18:14 PM |
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Dan - are you and the team considering attending any upcoming cryptocurrency conferences? I'm sure promoting XC and Blocknet is a priority for 2015. I know you guys attended one awhile back. Just wondering if that will be happening again. Keep up the solid work. Thanks.
Nothing tentatively scheduled yet but yes it is a good possibility
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October 30, 2014, 08:29:34 PM |
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You can delete my posts all you want but being that the guy in charge here is the same guy who just proved he cant be trusted, it is relevant to this coin or token or whatever it is.
' Trusted? Really - I used it to run this project - the proof is in the puddy and I did nothing wrong or un-ethical with the premine. So stop spreading FUD its not FUD, fud is bullshit and most likely manipulation to gain something. when you tell people you will be transparent about the premine and then spend it. all of it. and not tell your community you lose the right to call yourself transparent. That's not FUD, those are facts. There's a big difference. You can't cover up every fact that has occured by calling it fud. that isn't ethical, honest or even something that people do unless their goal is to mislead. It has been stated numerous times in the thread that the premine was being used to fund this project, and the address containing the premine was public. And it was also stated that I was funding core development out of my own pocket. There is nothing to cover up, your twisting the situation to suit your own view point and creating FUD again that makes no sense. You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this. I hope you guys do stick with it and keep going for everyones sake, if nothing else there not being a premine means there is no more risk of dumping it. Im not really concerned as i dont hold any XC, but i am concerned about how this reflects on blocknet and the coins affiliated with it. Which is my point here. You guys have a chance to fix this on blocknet before it goes any furthur. You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid? This double standard will strangle both coins if you let it. Do what you say you are going to do and make sure you are upfront about it and you can avoid all of the angry investors in the future and the price that goes down along with it.
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October 30, 2014, 08:29:46 PM |
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Just wanted to provide an update on the torsticks, the usb image has been finalized and they will ship as soon as soon as I receive them. The updated USB ISO will be posted tomorrow for those want to download it.
Dan
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October 30, 2014, 08:29:56 PM |
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Well the price went down but I'm still excited about Rev 3. How are we planning on funding the code-breaker bounty? I mean, I never expected a huge sum to come exclusively from the premine, but that isn't even an option now. So what kind of target are we hoping to achieve, and when do we need it by? How much you kicking in Dan? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 30, 2014, 08:33:07 PM |
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed.
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October 30, 2014, 08:34:41 PM |
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You can delete my posts all you want but being that the guy in charge here is the same guy who just proved he cant be trusted, it is relevant to this coin or token or whatever it is.
' Trusted? Really - I used it to run this project - the proof is in the puddy and I did nothing wrong or un-ethical with the premine. So stop spreading FUD its not FUD, fud is bullshit and most likely manipulation to gain something. when you tell people you will be transparent about the premine and then spend it. all of it. and not tell your community you lose the right to call yourself transparent. That's not FUD, those are facts. There's a big difference. You can't cover up every fact that has occured by calling it fud. that isn't ethical, honest or even something that people do unless their goal is to mislead. It has been stated numerous times in the thread that the premine was being used to fund this project, and the address containing the premine was public. And it was also stated that I was funding core development out of my own pocket. There is nothing to cover up, your twisting the situation to suit your own view point and creating FUD again that makes no sense. You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this. I hope you guys do stick with it and keep going for everyones sake, if nothing else there not being a premine means there is no more risk of dumping it. Im not really concerned as i dont hold any XC, but i am concerned about how this reflects on blocknet and the coins affiliated with it. Which is my point here. You guys have a chance to fix this on blocknet before it goes any furthur. You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid? This double standard will strangle both coins if you let it. Do what you say you are going to do and make sure you are upfront about it and you can avoid all of the angry investors in the future and the price that goes down along with it. Have you even been following this project and how much has been developed by Dan? - Decentralised trustless mixing - Xchat - Group Xchat - XC app in development and shown for testing Constant updates being pushed weekly. Whilst Synechist has done an outstanding job as a PR man, anyone who has been following this topic will recognise his dedication. You make it sound like the premine is gone and nothing has been accomplished. And as Synechist has said, Dan has continued working on this project after the pre-mine has gone and he had funded parts of the project himself: hardly the actions of someone who has done something wrong.
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October 30, 2014, 08:35:48 PM |
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed. why ? Everyone knows what a PR guy should be paid (industry standard), so unless your embarrassed by the amount in some way, just state it.
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October 30, 2014, 08:35:52 PM |
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You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this. No such claim was made. We claimed to have part-funded the project with the premine. Read the statement earlier. What you attribute to wordplay on our part is, in fact, lack of comprehension on your part. (Do you understand why 95% of your posts get deleted? You pay scant attention to the facts of a matter.)
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October 30, 2014, 08:37:47 PM |
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed. why ? Everyone knows what a PR guy should be paid (industry standard), so unless your embarrassed by the amount in some way, just state it. I don't agree with asking Arlyn how much he makes.
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October 30, 2014, 08:37:58 PM |
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed. why ? Everyone knows what a PR guy should be paid (industry standard), so unless your embarrassed by the amount in some way, just state it. It is an industry standard rate, but out of pure personal preference (personality type, whatever...) I prefer to keep my salary a personal matter. Privacy is important to all of us. Here more than anywhere.
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October 30, 2014, 08:39:05 PM |
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Just wanted to provide an update on the torsticks, the usb image has been finalized and they will ship as soon as soon as I receive them. The updated USB ISO will be posted tomorrow for those want to download it.
Dan
Nice, as soon as the iso is online I will test it. Thanks.
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October 30, 2014, 08:39:27 PM |
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I know this has been discussed already, but I wish XC came along when i was a more experienced investor. I got caught bagholding and I am at a loss but Ive been lucky to get in on some good pumps and make up for the loss. I still have high hopes for XC and plan to hold onto it now. I was stupid and put 90% of my investment into XC and have lost more than 60% ATM, but my 10% that I have placed into day trading has almost made up for my loss here.
I have accepted the fact that XC is a long term investment, the price now does not reflect its true value and will not for several months it seems. Considering REV 3 will be our biggest milestone yet, I am excited to see the outcome. I think people that are buying XC now are smart because they know they will be able to make some good profit during the REV 3 release.
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