[ANN][MIN] Minerals - POS | Developing own anon solution |

[Amph]

I remember when drk was only on C-CEX ..

lol really, i thought it went straight to mintpal

[ASICrefugee]

Top 3 on the voting list at Polo:

SUM2 SummerCoinV2 361  
DUCK DuckNote          356  
BURN BurnerCoin       218

If we can't beat these shitcoins I will give up Crypto  

[uray]

can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon

[Edraket31]

Top 3 on the voting list at Polo:

SUM2 SummerCoinV2 361  
DUCK DuckNote          356  
BURN BurnerCoin       218

If we can't beat these shitcoins I will give up Crypto  

Dont look at that voting.....
MIN will be choosen without voting.
Exchanges do not want to miss that volume

[liominer]

I remember when drk was only on C-CEX ..

Shhhhh dont tell

yeah then dark implemented anon features and the price went past 400,000 satoshi.

And........ so MIN implemented e-sports bit system and price went ........ satoshi XD

[hero18688]

Minerals is the first altcoin for ordinary miners not the big farmers.I have good faith in it.

[tylerderden]

Let's watch what we are doing now guys.......

From Poloniex:

Announcements


Anyone paying people to vote for coins on Poloniex risks having the coin removed from the voting list. Play fair.

Posted by OldManKidd at 2014-06-21 13:27:55


That is a direct copy and paste from the Poloniex announcement box!

I am happy to donate to a voting fund for MP, but for Poloniex I would not want to do anything against their rules.
The underlying theme of this coin has been all about fairness. Paying for votes on Poloniex would be against that ethos.

We need to show that we are above all the pettiness and politics.

YEAH play fair and pay us like everyone else, fuckin dirtbags

[chinchs]

Dev, don't know how hard could be, but, can we add another features like anon? I know is not top priority, but it would be nice to implement good things from other coins. Just a tought.

[Franky2010]

DEV please put a bounty for each vote on Mintpal
3 MIN EACH VOTE
This way increases the number of the votes
WE NEED 15000 VOTES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

EXAMPLE HOW IT WORKS :
every person who votes post the vote no and the address , after each vote
my vote no 935
my address ME5qCWf9jAoWfCxXHAauPA3zY7aRYXn6qd

The dev must pay each 3 or 4 hours to every person who votes, like this we can obtain the necessary votes untill next Monday, after 2 weeks  ,when it will be added a new coin.

https://www.mintpal.com/voting#MIN

Agree, this is way, how fast get to top on the list...3-5 MIN seems to be good motivation for voting...close to 6-10K satoshi, ORB has 1, XSI 5, SC had 15 coins for vote...

[bestcoinever]

Top 3 on the voting list at Polo:

SUM2 SummerCoinV2 361  
DUCK DuckNote          356  
BURN BurnerCoin       218

If we can't beat these shitcoins I will give up Crypto  

Dont look at that voting.....
MIN will be choosen without voting.
Exchanges do not want to miss that volume

+1

[nick777]

DEV please put a bounty for each vote on Mintpal
3 MIN EACH VOTE
This way increases the number of the votes
WE NEED 15000 VOTES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

EXAMPLE HOW IT WORKS :
every person who votes post the vote no and the address , after each vote
my vote no 935
my address xxx

The dev must pay each 3 or 4 hours to every person who votes, like this we can obtain the necessary votes untill next Monday, after 2 weeks  ,when it will be added a new coin.

https://www.mintpal.com/voting#MIN

Good idea... but dont do it... it will be seen as a giveaway... that could get the dev banned... and the thread locked... we dont want that right?

Only if it is done on site. If it is done off-site then it can be done.

look here
Earn 7 FREE HYPER every Hour of Every Day!! Help HYPER get on MintPal http://coinzen.org/index.php/topic,913.0.html
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.0

[jc12345]

can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon

It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here:

I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency:

1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond.  Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/

2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised.

3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW.

Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent.

I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches.

[coincrow]

I want to know what you guys think of the top priority that I should now choose for the Minerals development so I've updated voting for this thread.

If I missed something just let me know, I'll add more options to voting

I would suggest you recognize the current trend "ANON". Once we add anon, other features easily follow due to market value & confidence. I'm surprised to see lot of people voted for betting feature. Only ANON can bring rapid value to MIN. Whales are watching and they love ANON If you are going to implement any other feature than ANON then you will turn this coin into Silk Coin #2 (with so many features, but no market)

[liominer]

I personally don't think mintpal is a problem.

Last coin landed where dumped badly.
Coin should land there after e-sports bit system is ready, then whe will not dumped maybe.

We have a strong comunity and i think we all had a good gaing on MIN, some like 500% from mining and more.
Also we have a really strong and active comunity, so when MIN will be ready we can just pay for some vote on mintpal, 0.01 btc for MIN holder and will be done easy.

[pkpk]

One day mining MIN on http://multipool.minerals.pro. Accepted 120 coins. So it should be? Why so few?

[jc12345]

I want to know what you guys think of the top priority that I should now choose for the Minerals development so I've updated voting for this thread.

If I missed something just let me know, I'll add more options to voting

I would suggest you recognize the current trend "ANON". Once we add anon, other features easily follow due to market value & confidence. I'm surprised to see lot of people voted for betting feature. Only ANON can bring rapid value to MIN. Whales are watching and they love ANON

Lets look at it a bit differently. It seems that the main goal according the pole is the e-betting. However, there would be a dependency on eg. anon features, since the people using the e-betting would prefer to do it anonymously. Therefore the top priority should be recognised, but built on the foundation of anon. With anon foundation, any features built onto it will be much better received and used. That is the nature of the Interwebz.

[lefichop]

I want to know what you guys think of the top priority that I should now choose for the Minerals development so I've updated voting for this thread.

If I missed something just let me know, I'll add more options to voting

I would suggest you recognize the current trend "ANON". Once we add anon, other features easily follow due to market value & confidence. I'm surprised to see lot of people voted for betting feature. Only ANON can bring rapid value to MIN. Whales are watching and they love ANON

Lets look at it a bit differently. It seems that the main goal according the pole is the e-betting. However, there would be a dependency on eg. anon features, since the people using the e-betting would prefer to do it anonymously. Therefore the top priority should be recognised, but built on the foundation of anon. With anon foundation, any features built onto will be much better received and used. That is the nature of the Interwebz.

+1

[uray]

can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon

It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here:

I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency:

1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond.  Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/

2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised.

3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW.

Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent.

I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches.

but we can still analyze the history from blockchain isn't from the first block until now ?

[jc12345]

can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon

It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here:

I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency:

1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond.  Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/

2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised.

3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW.

Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent.

I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches.

but we can still analyze the history from blockchain isn't from the first block until now ?

Many people do not know how to do the analysis, It must be there in easy to use format for all to see, so that a n00b to make informed decisions if they want to participate in a launch and if the dev was telling the truth about a pre-mine. It could also be that by the time someone does the effort to analyse the block chain, the pre-mine is already dumped and the dev gone.

However it could be possible to draw up a rich list at a point in time eg. block 20090 in the case of MIN, but the coins would then still have been all in the pool's address or in C-CEX address, with many coins potentially still in the pools. It could therefore very well be impossible to determine an exact distribution number after POW ended.

[kanggong]

can we analyze how coin is distributed by looking at how much are most wealthies wallet address, and how it is distributed among wallet
anyone done that? it would help to confirm that this is indeed better in distributon

It is possible to create a rich list. You have to note however that it is too late now to draw any conclusions from a rich list regarding fairness of distribution for MIN. Many people have already bought tons of MIN on C-CEX and therefore the current rich list could have resulted from normal trade on an exchange. This makes me think however of general block explorer controls that I have been thinking about but not yet posted. I could have posted it anywhere as it is coin neutral but I post it here since my reply to your post triggered the thoughts again so I just post it here:

I suggest the following procedures regarding wallet balances before, during and after any coin launch. This will ensure the basic principles of accountability and transparency:

1. When a new coin launches, a rich list must be drawn up before launch using the blockchain at that point. The dev can submit the block chain to a trusted 3rd party who can run the script and publish the block explorer and rich list before the launch. This will indicate if there was any pre-mine by a dev. The addresses that exist just before launch will be the dev's pre-mine addresses. No coin may therefore be launched without a working block explorer and rich list. If this can be made compulsory for all coin launches, then we will know all pre-mines in advance and we can monitor the pre-mine address movement during the launch, POW and beyond.  Here is an example of what must be created as a pre-requisite of all coin launches before the launch http://explorer.payprocoin.com/

2. When the coin hits the first exchange, the pre-mine addresses in point 1 can be monitored by the community and any large movement in it can be immediately picked up by a warning built into the pre-mine script and the community can be warned of imminent pre-mine dump. Dev's are accountable to the community on all pre-mine activity and have to explain any such movements to the community. This is a basic principle of public accountability. A bad dev might try to cipher the pre-mine to other addresses but those movements can immediately be picked up and the dev must explain the movements. It would also help is exchange addresses are made public so that large movements from pre-mine addresses to the exchange address can be picked up by the block explorer monitoring script and red flags raised.

3. Immediately after POW ends, the rich list will indicate how fair distribution was, although this might be tainted if there is an exchange listing before end of POW. This can be countered if there can be an agreement that no coin gets listed before POW ends unless it is a coin with indefinite POW.

Coin dev's that are open an honest will subscribe to these basic rules. An honest dev has nothing to hide. Coin devs that do not want to follow these points are probably scams and should be avoided as the only reason they would not agree to this is if they want to hide something or have ill intent.

I think the above procedures will limit the number of scam coin launches.

thanks for saying that.
I will continue to pay close attention to, may try to buy.