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May 12, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
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The CIA should not be treated as the 'enemy' for you guys: they are a neutral party. You can speculate all you like, but at the end of the day someone wants to pay our lead developer some cash in exchange for an education in the protocol: that can only be a good thing in the short term. In the long term, if the CIA "were" an enemy, they could find this all out anyway.

I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but... this is the CIA we are talking about.

We are talking about the people that have done everything from setup secret brothels to study what happens when they slip people LSD 40 years ago, to helping run secret prisons and torture facilities, run guns, introduced crack into inner cities... and regularly murder people with remote controlled planes.

The CIA is, in my estimation, the enemy of all civilized human beings.
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May 12, 2011, 09:37:37 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but... this is the CIA we are talking about.

We are talking about the people that have done everything from setup secret brothels to study what happens when they slip people LSD 40 years ago, to helping run secret prisons and torture facilities, run guns, introduced crack into inner cities... and regularly murder people with remote controlled planes.

The CIA is, in my estimation, the enemy of all civilized human beings.

They're just protecting American profits, and their own. It's self-defense, really. But, uh, I digress.

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May 12, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but... this is the CIA we are talking about.

We are talking about the people that have done everything from setup secret brothels to study what happens when they slip people LSD 40 years ago, to helping run secret prisons and torture facilities, run guns, introduced crack into inner cities... and regularly murder people with remote controlled planes.

The CIA is, in my estimation, the enemy of all civilized human beings.

They're just protecting American profits, and their own. It's self-defense, really. But, uh, I digress.

Lol, a psycho breaks into his neighbors house, kills the children, rapes the wife, steals the stuff. It's ok though, he's just protecting his interests. "What's yours is mine fella." They are a terrorist organization, they are not the only apparatus of state terror out there, but that is what they are. Do you feel the need to make excuses for the KGB/FSB too? What about Saddam Husseins Mukhabarat, or the SS or non-state players like Al Qaeda?

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May 12, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but... this is the CIA we are talking about.

We are talking about the people that have done everything from setup secret brothels to study what happens when they slip people LSD 40 years ago, to helping run secret prisons and torture facilities, run guns, introduced crack into inner cities... and regularly murder people with remote controlled planes.

The CIA is, in my estimation, the enemy of all civilized human beings.

They're just protecting American profits, and their own. It's self-defense, really. But, uh, I digress.

Lol, a psycho breaks into his neighbors house, kills the children, rapes the wife, steals the stuff. It's ok though, he's just protecting his interests. "What's yours is mine fella."

You pretty much just summed up the nature of government across all of human history.  This problem isn't limited to the US government, they just happen to have bigger guns and more resources for bullets.

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May 12, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
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I don't entirely disagree with your sentiment but... this is the CIA we are talking about.

We are talking about the people that have done everything from setup secret brothels to study what happens when they slip people LSD 40 years ago, to helping run secret prisons and torture facilities, run guns, introduced crack into inner cities... and regularly murder people with remote controlled planes.

The CIA is, in my estimation, the enemy of all civilized human beings.

They're just protecting American profits, and their own. It's self-defense, really. But, uh, I digress.

Lol, a psycho breaks into his neighbors house, kills the children, rapes the wife, steals the stuff. It's ok though, he's just protecting his interests. "What's yours is mine fella."

You pretty much just summed up the nature of government across all of human history.  This problem isn't limited to the US government, they just happen to have bigger guns and more resources for bullets.

Yeah I know you believe that, and I think I've made my position quite clear. Wink

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May 15, 2011, 09:08:15 PM
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I heard the CIA introduced introduced the concept of 20% time. Bitcoin was the result.

Still, seems too perfect for one person to have created..
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May 16, 2011, 12:50:14 AM
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I heard the CIA introduced introduced the concept of 20% time. Bitcoin was the result.

Still, seems too perfect for one person to have created..


Too perfect for one person to have created? umm…  I think there's a major flaw in that theory.

I think it's too perfect to have been created by a committee of paranoid bureaucrats.

Why would the CIA checkmate themselves after wikileaks?  Their idea of innovation is to call their buddies at visa, paypal and federal reserve member banks.

That said, I'm certain they will find a way to use this to their advantage like everybody else here.

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May 16, 2011, 01:35:54 AM
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Too perfect to have been created by humans?

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May 16, 2011, 01:44:46 AM
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Satoshi is a space alien.

I knew it.  :-)


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May 16, 2011, 04:15:14 AM
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Too perfect to have been created by humans?

planet x    Smiley
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May 21, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
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In my personal experience government is full of sociopaths and everything Paul Babiak says in this interview is true: http://aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org/radio/?p=30.
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May 21, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
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Satoshi is a space alien.

I knew it.  :-)


from places far-far-away from here.
probably thats why Saturn was so noisy last days - ppl revoting against their puppeteers on Earth

In my personal experience government is full of sociopaths and everything Paul Babiak says in this interview is true: http://aftermath-surviving-psychopathy.org/radio/?p=30.
how can you do things that they do[while forced to do. and have to obey orders] on everydays basis,without become paranoid schizophrenic sociopaths ? its called "professional psychological transformation"   and usual for [almost]any kind of human activity.
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May 21, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
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The CIA isn't contacting Gavin to have him sell the idea to them or tell them why it's good. They're not going to want him to explain how Bitcoin works because they will already know all of this. They're meeting with him to get an insider perspective of the community, the dynamics and mindset of the community, how Bitcoin became popular, and what Gavin thinks the future of Bitcoins will be. It's nothing more than a trend investigation because that's their job. They're simply gathering intel and what they will do with that intel not even the CIA knows.

All these paranoid rantings aren't going to help him or scare the CIA away. No, they're not going to attack Bitcoin, Gavin or have all of you arrested. Gavin should be prepared to answer questions about the community, why and how Bitcoins became popular because that's what they're going to want to know.
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May 21, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
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The CIA isn't contacting Gavin to have him sell the idea to them or tell them why it's good. They're not going to want him to explain how Bitcoin works because they will already know all of this. They're meeting with him to get an insider perspective of the community, the dynamics and mindset of the community, how Bitcoin became popular, and what Gavin thinks the future of Bitcoins will be. It's nothing more than a trend investigation because that's their job. They're simply gathering intel and what they will do with that intel not even the CIA knows.

All these paranoid rantings aren't going to help him or scare the CIA away. No, they're not going to attack Bitcoin, Gavin or have all of you arrested. Gavin should be prepared to answer questions about the community, why and how Bitcoins became popular because that's what they're going to want to know.
or just to replace him from their super-agent with plastic surgery, which is quite common practice both for them and their colleagues from UK, France, Russia, Israel, China and Japan at least.
probably skip part about impanted skullbomb, frigging lasers in eye and fighting on lightsablers in capitol/pentagon/NYSE as well as rest sci-fi part of story.
/kidding. probably. or just starting it.
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May 21, 2011, 09:10:32 PM
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I think they found Bin Laden's wallet.dat and want to "discuss" this with Gavin Wink

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May 21, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
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I think they found Bin Laden's wallet.dat and want to "discuss" this with Gavin Wink
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May 21, 2011, 11:30:03 PM
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Speak truth to power, unknown friend. Well done.
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May 22, 2011, 12:06:23 AM
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and finally what happen with that invitation of the CIA for the Mr.  Galvin? :O

I think they found Bin Laden's wallet.dat and want to "discuss" this with Gavin Wink
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May 22, 2011, 12:39:20 AM
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and finally what happen with that invitation of the CIA for the Mr.  Galvin? :O

I think they found Bin Laden's wallet.dat and want to "discuss" this with Gavin Wink
LOL

xDDDDDD, Acid humor :p

But this is old public news:


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May 22, 2011, 03:24:48 AM
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and finally what happen with that invitation of the CIA for the Mr.  Galvin? :O

I think they found Bin Laden's wallet.dat and want to "discuss" this with Gavin Wink
LOL

xDDDDDD, Acid humor :p

But this is old public news:

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